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@jakayboy
@jakayboy 2 ай бұрын
Now clip the snare and kick. And automate this whole sidechain process.
@888anonyme888
@888anonyme888 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this man this is sick
@kd2mill
@kd2mill 4 ай бұрын
Hey, fella. This has nothing to do with your videos. I just checked out your video with Volumeshaper and you have a beard in that one. Honestly, if you had a British accent, you'd at least pass for George Harrison's brother. I could barely keep up with your tips for looking at your features. I haven't looked over your videos, but is there a similar method to shaping vocals with Volumeshaper?
@RobRuffMusic
@RobRuffMusic 4 ай бұрын
Holy smokes that sounds waaaaaaaay better than FL's studio native transient shaper. My vocal mix was sounding a tid bit dull for my liking... But if I changed the vocal compression, it made the vocal harsh. So This shall solve my problem and is what led me here... Thanks for doing the video.
@sduarte46
@sduarte46 4 ай бұрын
why cant i never get this to work like im doing literally everything step by step and it doesn't work
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 4 ай бұрын
if you're using the latest version of volumeshaper, this video is outdated. - make sure your trigger midi tracks are turned on and delete all instruments/effects on the track
@MrMuga15
@MrMuga15 4 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, I appreciate a lot this tuts. I'm finally understanding my own routing decisions and overall for sidechain. Huge thanks and respect. Keep up
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 4 ай бұрын
glad to hear that! Just dropped 2 new ones. Will probably do another soon. Cheers
@playboyfan001
@playboyfan001 5 ай бұрын
Yeah that mutliband selecta is delicious
@hollowxo6897
@hollowxo6897 6 ай бұрын
the best
@screamartsdnb
@screamartsdnb 9 ай бұрын
Actually you could get clicking by adding attack if I'm not wrong because that might leave a bit of room for a transient to come through I think. But that's maybe not the case with volume shaper
@jamesluttinger1224
@jamesluttinger1224 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a tutorial on how to do this and properly route to a pre master?
@bastion_music
@bastion_music Жыл бұрын
not sure i understand your question sorry - could you explain in more detail what you are trying to do?
@modernmabuse
@modernmabuse Жыл бұрын
I can't get the beginning of the yellow line up and the end down. I want the volume to be lowered slowly but the curve at the end doesn't go down
@djaspor702
@djaspor702 Жыл бұрын
Truly a great tutorial. Thank you!!!!
@MikeDeanOfficials
@MikeDeanOfficials Жыл бұрын
Great video, one of the best 👍
@DiGiTz_music
@DiGiTz_music Жыл бұрын
Hey, little late to the party, but still a wonderful tutorial, which helped me a lot! If you're still planning on doing some further tutorial stuff, I'd love a video on how to put different tracks of an Ableton project into a group. I'm struggling an awful lot figuring out, which instruments I would conveniently put into e.g. a Sidechain Bus, since it's just something that I haven't made any experience with. Thanks for your work anyways, appreciate the efforts :)
@summajae
@summajae Жыл бұрын
This is 100% the best Shaperbox tutorial for midi sidechaining I've seen! Mate, thank you!
@stillgotyourmom
@stillgotyourmom Жыл бұрын
Did you try it on vocals?
@elektronikon1862
@elektronikon1862 Жыл бұрын
Hello Bastion, can u explain the routing for sidechain, its a little bit confused.
@bastion_music
@bastion_music Жыл бұрын
if you're confused, try watching the video again. I explained it as clearly as I could!
@MONSTIC
@MONSTIC 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! How do I make the sidechain apply when exporting the stems? Because when I do it it doesn't export me with the effect
@bastion_music
@bastion_music Жыл бұрын
hmm good question... don't have an answer off the top but you can google how to export stems with (midi) effects and should find out pretty quick
@LucaYourself
@LucaYourself 2 жыл бұрын
thanks! could i just slap the sidechain in the track which I want to change or why should i route it through that sends and groups?
@bastion_music
@bastion_music Жыл бұрын
Groups make it very fast & easy to sidechain multiple tracks in the same way at the same time. You'll probably want to do this in most songs. But in some cases, you may only want to sidechain one track to another track, and yes, then you just put Volumeshaper on the track you want to be affected. But, more often than not, I'll end up wanting to chain more than one track, which calls for a group.
@trexion3443
@trexion3443 2 жыл бұрын
11:58 the way that you drink out of the mug never stops cracking me up lol
@ryanmartinez2876
@ryanmartinez2876 2 жыл бұрын
This video kicks ass. 2nd time watching it and I can recognize the time & energy that went into creating it. Big ups!
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
thank you my guy! glad it's proven helpful for so many people
@TeleporterM11
@TeleporterM11 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you choose the midi trigger approach. It’s sounds no better than the default.
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
for the reasons I explain in this tutorial :) Ableton has prob made compressor sound better, but I still prefer VS for the frequency bands.
@TeleporterM11
@TeleporterM11 2 жыл бұрын
Is this version 6 you’re demoing.
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
I believe so yeah
@lenoxartcollective9922
@lenoxartcollective9922 2 жыл бұрын
which track are you putting volume shaper on it is not clear through the video
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
yes it is lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2mnhY2vq52cjsU
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
it's on the Sidechain group / bus
@lenoxartcollective9922
@lenoxartcollective9922 2 жыл бұрын
@@bastion_music you referenced some other tutorial
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
@@lenoxartcollective9922 yeah my ableton template tutorial. But I make it clear in this one too
@ryanmartinez2876
@ryanmartinez2876 2 жыл бұрын
I love the gun shot FX on your videos. I am an immediate subscriber. Big ups Bastion Music.
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
thanks man i think i got that from Dom mazzetti lolol
@alexrimeisis1298
@alexrimeisis1298 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of moving the MIDI trigger back you can use Abletons track delay feature (Top bar, view, track delay) which lets you adjust by ms.
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
i'm actually not sure that would work - the issue is that Idk at what point in the signal flow ableton actually nudges the track. Meaning, all the effects could be applied (including volumeshaper ducking) before the track is nudged, which doesn't help. The only way to know for sure is to test it with an external bounce. Which I've been too lazy to do. But all you reply guys keep suggesting it so I feel like I have to try it to settle it once and for all lol
@buggzywestside
@buggzywestside 2 жыл бұрын
nice explanation thank you!!
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
you are welcome ser
@buggzywestside
@buggzywestside 2 жыл бұрын
@@bastion_music At 4:36 on the dropdown I get "SideChain L" twice??. Does it matter which one I choose?.
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
@@buggzywestside yes. the first one sends to the first instance in the chain, the second sends to the second.
@theyoungsapien
@theyoungsapien 2 жыл бұрын
I almosted used the name Bastion as my stage name!!
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
haha unfortunately im not the only one. but at least no one else sounds like me
@jcapo1803
@jcapo1803 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, super informative :):)
@martin-raison-music-composer
@martin-raison-music-composer 2 жыл бұрын
4:35 Thanks for the tut' but my instance of shaperbox is grey so I can't click on it... Any help? :/
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
hmm I reckon it's an issue with ableton / how your tracks are routed, rather than a shaperbox issue. too hard for me to diagnose without trooubleshooting, sorry
@martin-raison-music-composer
@martin-raison-music-composer 2 жыл бұрын
@@bastion_music Thanks for your answer, I appreciate it :) Have a good one
@khz5324
@khz5324 2 жыл бұрын
damn. how are you gotta sh*t on the other tutorials? LOL. that's cold. but thanks for the video!
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
XD no prob! glad it was helpful
@AuroraBPolaris
@AuroraBPolaris 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to make a video highlighting the absolute gem that is multiband sidechaining and adding a ms offset to make it snap harder...well i guess there is no need now! Bravo!
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!!
@bd9738
@bd9738 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this- veryy helpful
@bridgetdonovan375
@bridgetdonovan375 2 жыл бұрын
very cool!
@polardose9374
@polardose9374 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of moving the midi so the side chain starts when the snare hits, you can make the midi track hit 10ms before and then make the side chain dip at 10ms in volume shaper
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
that's essentially what I'm doing. if you mean using the "delay" feature on the track instead of moving the clip, I'm actually not sure that works due to the timing of when that delay is applied - the signal may pass through group processing before delay is applied, for example. Would require testing with an offline bounce I just haven't gotten around to it cuz this way works & is easy to test in the session
@Re_ii
@Re_ii 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you very much for your work!
@timekeepercollective2791
@timekeepercollective2791 2 жыл бұрын
how the fuck are you not bigger on youtube?!!!! subscribed, thank u bro
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
perhaps cuz I've only made 3 vids? haha much love yo, I appreciate the encouragement
@centroidarchive7296
@centroidarchive7296 2 жыл бұрын
genius * thank you for making this, so helpful
@jarkkojs
@jarkkojs 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that VolumeShaper lacks is velocity sensitivity for the side-chain. I've worked around this by having different notes to trigger side-chain curves of different amplitudes. A simple example where this matters would be a kick fill.
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
solid workaround... I usually just don't bother sidechaining fills, or perhaps manually cut out or lower gain on conflicting bass on those transients
@jarkkojs
@jarkkojs 2 жыл бұрын
@@bastion_music Yeah or you can just automate and bounce the fills. I just wonder why any of these shaper plugins (e.g. also LFO Tool) do not give this as an option.
@prebz2275
@prebz2275 2 жыл бұрын
If you keep making videos like this you will blow up! The last video with sidechain was very good also✅
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
too kind mr berg! thanks for your support
@ToxiKraft
@ToxiKraft 2 жыл бұрын
What if you just create automations with a volume and EQ? It can be a little time consuming but it works and it's free lol
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
nah. unnecessarily time consuming, way more room for human error, and stock EQ won't be as clean. well worth the $30 for this or chain shaper M4L. trust
@colinrogers1385
@colinrogers1385 2 жыл бұрын
dope! definitely considering this now!
@twitcheyspleen
@twitcheyspleen 2 жыл бұрын
great stuff. Thank you - I love Shaperbox
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah it’s been a game changer. New vid on waves smack attack soon
@marcusagain
@marcusagain 2 жыл бұрын
Can shaper box take from audio ? Like on abletons gate effect theres an option to "Take input audio from..." Im really trying to figure out how to do that in FL studio
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
no, shaperbox only receives midi
@antidegenerates7449
@antidegenerates7449 2 жыл бұрын
Bad lightning? For VST tutorial? Are you mad or something?
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
twas a joke
@poeticgeenetikstv4672
@poeticgeenetikstv4672 2 жыл бұрын
how can I route retrigger into my MPC 2.10 software?
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
No idea sorry man GL!
@umanoid1523
@umanoid1523 2 жыл бұрын
Great. Ive seen people use volume shaper to duck out volume for kicks but never was clear how that worked. I do a lot of dub, bass heavy tracks and always struggle with the low end. I usually use Izotope plugins to sidechain the bass with the kick using an eq and a compressor.This seems like its a cleaner way of doing the same thing. I already have sub mix groups on my busses so i’m going to have to look at the routing to make this work since i don’t think you can route midi to a bus.
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
glad you found this helpful - You may just have to use groups instead of busses since they are basically the same thing
@samwhite9516
@samwhite9516 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this man. Very helpful
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
np! Thanks for commenting
@omarcoming183
@omarcoming183 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do more videos on shaperbox? It’s dope but idk how to use it
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
only use it for sidechain tbh sorry
@omarcoming183
@omarcoming183 3 жыл бұрын
Please do the reference track tutorial. I’ve been looking for a good vid on reference track and I appreciate the way you explain things. Subbed
@bastion_music
@bastion_music 2 жыл бұрын
thanks! and sorry i just saw this - ok will do
@bastion_music
@bastion_music Жыл бұрын
hey i made this btw