Hi Shannan, I just wanted to say how grateful I am for your videos. I recently went through an autism evaluation (ADOS + IQ test), and I had previously been tested for ADHD. It has been a terrible experience, and being exhausted and highly stressed didn't help at all. Anyway, I have to wait another month for my results, but your videos are incredibly helpful for me. They give me courage (and make me doubt myself a little less) while I wait for my diagnostic report. I’ve also had bad experiences in therapy (and during the evaluation) where I couldn’t respond in the moment (or automatically reacted by just saying something random and incorrect) due to delayed processing (and exhaustion), while trying to unmask at the same time. So much of what you share resonates with me. Except for the independent part...maybe :) at 40, living back with my parents (both in full denial about autism) and not able to manage both work and life simultaneously. Yeah, very 'curious' about my support levels. Greetings from Europe
@shannantreasure3 ай бұрын
Hang in there. I've moved in with my parents or with friend(s) at least once per decade of adulthood, including in my 40s. Sometimes we just need help. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I rely heavily on my community and they rely on me. We take turns leaning. Good luck with the assessment.
@channel0name03 ай бұрын
@@shannantreasure Thank you so much, that's very reassuring.
@strictnonconformist73695 ай бұрын
I'm AuDHD, and I was first assessed (unknowingly at the time, I wasn't seeking that, but answers that were directly because of it) in 2002, and last year, because I made a mistake of not ensuring I got a copy of records, I needed it on my records for employment records last year. There's more than one way his apparently unprofessional discussion could be taken: it could literally be as you thought it was, or... the assessment process he used deliberately included observing your behavior to all he said and did in all aspects. Since assessment at this time seems mostly about close observation of behavior, and the questionnaires can be absurd and ambiguous, the questionnaires themselves are a... suggested pattern of interviewing someone to understand their nature via observing their behavior. For example: last year in the couple sessions where I was assessed, she asked me to come over and look at something on her computer about ChatGPT. That was a logical thing to ask me, a tech worker involved with using AI, but the reason to ask me to look at that had nothing to do with the topic matter on the screen, it was a matter of me being the topic matter being evaluated in regards to how I communicated, verbally and non-verbally. In this context, I'm fairly convinced I was being evaluated for "joint attention" for which... I didn't do it in the non-autistic way, and that was elicited from me in a (for me) fairly normal sort of encounter. He was putting you into a scenario with social aspects and I expect he was fully evaluating you as you processed it and making notes, mental and/or otherwise, to understand how you work. I'd guess that he made up that tale for the sake of the evaluation. How much was for evaluating whether you were autistic versus a differential diagnosis of other things, well, you'd have to ask him. This is the way of many psychological types of studies: participants are asked to answer questions, but it's not the answers to the questions that were the intended result, it was the process of how they were answered and processed that they wanted to understand.
@katycheckley9 ай бұрын
I would have taken his inappropriate like ..everything....as a threat. I feel like he was trying to tell you he is battling his inappropriate feelings towards you.
@DrSbaitsojr Жыл бұрын
walmart sells yellow peppers like this in a jar and they taste great. i was wanting to grow them but i didn't know what kind they were, the ingredients just says chili peppers.
@shannantreasure Жыл бұрын
You can order the seeds from Baker Creek Rare Seeds.
@DrSbaitsojr Жыл бұрын
@@shannantreasure thank you. i will be growing these very soon.
@peacefulpossum2438 Жыл бұрын
“Used to working with children who cat call him out” breaks my heart.
@peacefulpossum2438 Жыл бұрын
“Slow to process” I totally get that. I can write complex essays and fictional narratives, but grasping people’s behavior in real time often escapes me. I retrospect, I go, Oh! They meant xyz. So frustrating. That psychologist needs therapy … and a new career. But he is right about you writing a book.
@abrahamkendal38392 жыл бұрын
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@shawnaford55402 жыл бұрын
Gaslighting?
@shannantreasure2 жыл бұрын
It's a term for when people try to make you think you're crazy/making things up because it's better for them if you believe that. It's from a movie with Ingrid Bergman called Gaslight. Her husband plots to make her think she's crazy so he can have her committed and steal all her money. He makes it so the gaslights (old-fashioned indoor lighting) flicker and then has everyone around her tell her they can't see it so she'll think she's losing her mind. it describes a frequent form of abusive behavior often aimed at women.
@greeninnovations342 жыл бұрын
I think he was testing your ability to empathize by crying to see if you show emotions to him.
@shannantreasure2 жыл бұрын
I wondered that, too. Especially given all his talk of baiting and manipulation. If he was doing it on purpose as a test, he behaved dangerously and irresponsibly / unethically. However, he claims he was engaged in transference and having a genuine emotional reaction.
@greeninnovations342 жыл бұрын
@@shannantreasure I'm sure it's hard to go through such a manipulative testing, but if he is specialized in testing adults with ASD, he must be seeing cases like you daily, and has mostly built manipulative techniques to make sure his testing is accurate specially that the DSM is open for anyone to read and know the criteria, but unethical, misogynistic, women hater? Maybe but it will decrease your trustability to say that because listeners will think you are irrational attacker- even if you are not. Generally, focus on the symptoms that create disorder in your life. Define, and understand them carefully, and get help with them, but also try other psychologists, and dont get stuck with one experience, and allow it to affect your life. Eventually, thank you for your helpful video :) .
@shannantreasure2 жыл бұрын
@@greeninnovations34 Thank you for sharing your perspective. Actually, I said the THINGS HE DID were misogynist. I didn't say he was. I don't know what's in his heart/mind. I cited the source of my analysis (Dr. Kate Manne's work). I have published peer-reviewed research on misogyny and I have a PhD in gender studies. I am an award-winning, credentialed expert in naming these systemic socio-cultural dynamics when they occur. The usefulness of manipulation checks are debated in psychological research, but I did not sign up to be in a research study. Even if I had, the psychologist would be ethically-bound to take care not to harm me. He did not take that care. I do think he used forensic psychology techniques, AND I think his use of such without my informed consent was a breach of professional ethics. Continued use of these tactics has likely or will cause material harm to other autistic people as it did to me. That's more important to me than whether anyone thinks I'm rational or not. Good luck with your own journey.
@shannantreasure2 жыл бұрын
@Green Innovations In case you're interested, here's a study explaining why manipulation checks are really problematic even in research studies. They introduce too many new variables and damage the integrity of an experiement. www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.00998/full
@shannantreasure2 жыл бұрын
@Green Innovations - Quick update because we had the feedback session today and I asked him directly about this. He said he hadn't been baiting me on purpose in the way I thought. He'd already been engaged in transference (conflating me with his relative) and had been trying to raise an alarm/warn me there is evil in the world to keep me safe. It was really poorly done and reflected a lot of bias, poor judgment, and internalized misogyny/benevolent sexism on his part, but it was not strategic in the specific way I was concerned it was. Very weird and inappropriate, but not an intentional ethical violation, so ... I'm still thinking about how I feel about it. Thought you might be interested.
@pollywog73182 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, consider writing a book....
@shannantreasure2 жыл бұрын
Hi, are you repeating from the video or making a suggestion? I can't tell.
@Xarin842 жыл бұрын
That guy is really, really weird. And inappropriate. And unprofessional. It sounds like he made it all about him, and was more eager to be right (the yes! gesture) than to actually help you out. You're right about "Am I even here?" ....It sounded like he treated you as though you weren't even there.
@shannantreasure2 жыл бұрын
"Eager to be right" is a good point. I hadn't thought about that, but you're right.
@jonathandill35572 жыл бұрын
Could you please share the title of the novel about the woman with Asperger's? I question if that psychologist has healthy boundaries. Definitely sounds like he was projecting his personal situation onto you and thinking about himself and his own agenda. Maybe narcissistic traits? I'd be worried that he would start expecting stuff from me without communicating that to me, but that may just be my own trauma.
@shannantreasure2 жыл бұрын
Sure. It's a trilogy featuring autistic lead characters written by an Autistic woman with an Asperger's diagnosis: The Kiss Quotient, The Bride Test, and The Heart Principle by Helen Hoang.
@jonathandill35572 жыл бұрын
@@shannantreasure Thanks. I added my reaction to what you described about the psychologist.