Congratulations, very intersting design! I have three questions: 1. With the new impedance matching output, what is the power amplifier bandwidth? 2. What was the reason to route back (on the PCB) the output of the 600W power amplifier, to just about 1 cm (0.4 inch) away from the input? 3. Is the long (90 deg. bent) RF output trace 50 ohms impedance? I don't know what PCB substrate you are using and if use ground underneath, but if is about the standard FR4, thickness 1.5 mm (59 mil), with ground, the 50 ohms microstrip trace should be about 2.7mm wide. Compared to the size of the MRF300 package, this microstrip line is much wider. tnx
@TelstarElectronics3 күн бұрын
The output section is much higher Q than the usual wideband transformer... so the bandwidth is much narrower. In this case, the 3dB output bandwidth is about 5MHz. The tuned circuit output has several advantages (if wideband operation is not needed)... such as very high efficiency. There is only about 5W being dissipated on the entire output section. The other advantage is that the tuned circuit acts like a built-in low pass filter... aiding in reducing harmonics... although this board also has an additional pi output filter too. The input and output connection proximity is a result of being close to the transmit/receive relay... to keep any stray reactance to a minimum. The 1.6mm board uses 1oz double sided copper... with a big bottom ground plane (~90% of surface). Impedance matching at lower frequencies is not critical... since the trace length is just a small fraction of a wavelength.
@k8byp5 күн бұрын
BAD PWB design/ layout. Insufficient copper around hot components/ crowded too closely.
@TelstarElectronics4 күн бұрын
Huh? There are only really three higher-power resistors on the PCB, and they all have a design margin of 100% (doubled required wattage). In addition, they are not in physical contact with board itself. I can tell by your comment you haven't laid out many/any boards...
@freddyb20987 күн бұрын
The Professor is Back !! Missed You ! Looking forward to future video's and electronic offerings.
@TelstarElectronics4 күн бұрын
Good to hear from you. Yep, the ol' Professor is always striving for cost-effective, reliable, and high-performance amplifiers with a great feature list...
@jasonfrye64737 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing this updated version, excellent point about the loss via output transformer. I would've thought LDMOS was gonna take over the RF amplifier world when i first seen the capabilities years ago but so far just a slow progress, maybe the higher voltage is the reason? Anyway nice 👍 glad to see people with knowledge still experimenting
@TelstarElectronics7 күн бұрын
Yes, Mosfets require higher voltage... and are not very useful for mobile operation. But for home use, they certainly make more sense than bipolar devices...
@buckaroobonsi5557 күн бұрын
Glad to see your back! I hope this finds you well and in good spirits!
@TelstarElectronics4 күн бұрын
Good to hear from you. Now that I'm retired, I have more time to spend on these projects...
@nandrews84127 күн бұрын
Good to see you, been a minute.
@TelstarElectronics7 күн бұрын
Thanks. Was very busy moving and then retiring. But now I have time again to design some stuff...
@user-vi6lw8dx5f2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing to hear someone putting low pass filtering on amplifiers. Is the filtering on both input and output? Thank you
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
Harmonic filtering on the input? Completely unnecessary since the radio driving has virtually no harmonic content.
@TelstarElectronics3 күн бұрын
Pi filter on output...
@user-vi6lw8dx5f2 жыл бұрын
Hello, What type of material was used for the L-Matching Network? That is an amazing setup, it would be great for my HOA. Thank you
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
It's just an L-match... using #12 solid copper wire and a mica capacitor.
@TelstarElectronics3 күн бұрын
Magnet wire air coil & ceramic capacitor used for L-match...
@derekbarr85672 жыл бұрын
Nice Video Brian. Looks Great and sounds great!!
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
I'm shipping the first proto unit today to a guy in PA... about 100 miles south of you. We'll see how he likes it.
@KARNAK472 жыл бұрын
Very nice worth trying ,all that wind in the truck yep.thanks
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this mic was designed primarily for the mobile environment... but certainly can be useful anywhere.
@maxwelljaxson47852 жыл бұрын
Looks good
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
This works very good... one of my better ideas lately... LOL
@smedleypdolittle2 жыл бұрын
Cool! Glad to see it’s a success! Neil H.
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
It's a very unique experience. Power mic audio gain up close, with virtually no background noise coming through.
@buckaroobonsi5552 жыл бұрын
Hey it's your favorite customer! Is this up on your site for sale yet? I did not see it on site? Yes it is "Two way radio and that is what it is all about"!! I have asked about electronic switching in the past and people always poo-poo'ed it! I looked on ebay as well! Can't wait to try one!
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
This is still a prototype... but the interest in this seems pretty high. Not sure how it will be offered yet.
@unclequack54452 жыл бұрын
Sir where did you get that slab of heat sink? I like it.
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
heatsinkusa.com/
@unclequack54452 жыл бұрын
Ive heard these are not true RF devices but more suited for power supplies and are being used for RF applications anyway.
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct... these are FETs characterized at 1MHz. They have virtually no gain at 27MHz.
@unclequack54452 жыл бұрын
@@TelstarElectronics Are these the same mosfets used in Rocket amps?
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
Yes...
@unclequack54452 жыл бұрын
@@TelstarElectronics Yes are they any good? for the device only costing 5$ they sure are expensive amps.
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for. Good RF devices that work at 27MHz and run on 12V cost about $50 each... so you can figure how those 1MHz $5 devices work.
@unclequack54452 жыл бұрын
1:1 ratio is NO gain has to be over driven just to work.
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
LOL... it's not quite that bad... but the gain at 27MHz is very low alright.
@577buttfan2 жыл бұрын
Could you put a kit together for me?
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
I don't sell much of anything anymore. People are not willing to pay for quality equipment. So, I only make good stuff for my own use.
@577buttfan2 жыл бұрын
@@TelstarElectronics I hear that.Thanks anyway professor.
@vlsidesigning-veriloghdltu59542 жыл бұрын
Looks good. whats the input power require for 650 watt and secondly the tuned ckt. module - is it broadband or meant for any particular band
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
www.telstar-electronics.com/SkyWave%20DX600T.htm
@577buttfan2 жыл бұрын
The 4 watt 29 was driving it good.Pegging that 500 in the corner.Pretty badass little amp!!The 29 might be doing 5 rms.
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
This is the best amp I've ever designed. I use one every day talking skip on channel-28. Everybody knows the ol' professor...
@577buttfan2 жыл бұрын
@@TelstarElectronics Good job!!!
@prabirdebnath51972 жыл бұрын
What's the Voltage requirement
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
48V
@Ducklafied3 жыл бұрын
Now you need to make a 4 transistor version to about 1200w to compete with the bigger ones with the single 400 dollar chips in them.
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
Compete? With those meatball designs out there made in a garage? Those are nothing but poorly built prototypes...
@nandrews84123 жыл бұрын
Saying a long loud "AUDIO" is a much better indication of real world talking power. Some of my elmers would really give me a lecture about whistling to check audio and power. Beautyful build BTW.!
@TelstarElectronics3 жыл бұрын
Since you're looking for a peak... actually, the whistle is likely better. It's a much purer frequency that doesn't vary in amplitude much.
@taft24223 жыл бұрын
Dude we need to ask you this man but our group is walking a fine line. TAFT doesn't bash shops or builders because we are shops and we have to deal with the builders. It's business. These Palomar transistors seem like crap to some of us and a godsend to others. Shops make a nice profit from maxmods and ERF2030+ Mark Sherman of Fine Scam CB swears that these transistors are the best ever including the max mod. Because they supposedly "fix" the radios flaws. Two other guys did videos going back 2-3 years that said these transistors and the max mod were a scam. They got attacked by Mark Sherman and other shops relentlessly. Both of those guys took their videos down (and we have copies still) and the rumor is that Palomar threatened to sue both of them because they did tests like you did and the transistors didn't exactly live up to the claims. Palomar ever try to sue you? Looks like you independently verified what they said several years ago so now I really do believe these other guys that said these transistors were just relabeled junk.
@TelstarElectronics3 жыл бұрын
Well, I don't have to deal with "shops" or "builders"... so I just tell the truth. Palomar sue me... LOL! For what?...telling the truth? Oh, and you're right... the MaxMod is also a scam.
@taft24223 жыл бұрын
@@TelstarElectronics I thought maxmod was the real thing until I saw a gentleman present and go over the math equations that disprove the maxmod. Then he tested it and the results matched the equations. I thought those videos got Palomar upset because he took down most of the videos without explanation. That's why there were rumors that this guy got threatened. If not by Palomar then it was trolls for CB shops like Mark Sherman. In fact, Mark Sherman still attacks these people relentlessly because they proved his beloved maxmod and ERF2030+ were BS and I am sure it threatened his scam CB shop business in the Winnebago. After all he gets around $400 to install the maxmod and the ERF2030+ into a stryker 955 because otherwise, according to Mark Sherman, the radios will "explode" or "catch fire" If you didn't get threats like they did then I bet Mark Sherman's losers and trolls are the reason.
@TelstarElectronics3 жыл бұрын
Yes, radio related scams make the scammers a lot of money. They get very upset when you expose them. I don't have a thing to do with them, so I don't care if they like what I say or not...
@ctscantechnologist3 жыл бұрын
Do these amplifiers work on other bands like 20, 40, and 80 meter bands?
@TelstarElectronics3 жыл бұрын
The DX250 and DX300 will not work on those those bands because they have a tuned output.
@ctscantechnologist3 жыл бұрын
I still have your DX150 KIT...
@ctscantechnologist3 жыл бұрын
Your amplifiers have clean output - practically free of harmonics... I wish I knew where to buy the metal chassis.
@TelstarElectronics3 жыл бұрын
Metal and plastic chassis are available from numerous places. I prefer the plastic... much easier to machine.
@TheGmr1403 жыл бұрын
nice antenna. cb skip = fun
@TelstarElectronics3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this home-made unit works great... makes no modifications to my house, and is very portable. The resonant match realized with the matching network inside the box gets this aerial to 1.1:1. It may not look like much, but the skip performance is awesome.
@krazzykiller13 жыл бұрын
what is the best fet to use in a 10 meters amplifier?
@TelstarElectronics3 жыл бұрын
I sure like the MRF300... a great bang for the buck!
@ShawnPeerson3 жыл бұрын
New to the base station stuff only used plug and play mobile equipment. Love your video and your build is absolutely beautiful!!! Can you explain the matching network part and maybe a build spec? I'd love to try and build something similar. Last question - if the antenna were mounted up higher wouldn't you be better off? Thanks; Shawn Seattle WA
@TelstarElectronics3 жыл бұрын
I use the antenna mostly for skip... so antenna height is not important. As for the matching network... a simple L-match.
@grumpyken91512 жыл бұрын
@@TelstarElectronics what kind of impedance were you getting before the match, with the radials laid out flat like that? the 3'x3' aluminum bit- was that based on a calculation/some part of a wavelength? thanks- very interesting build
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
The impedance without the matching network was about 1.6:1. The 3'x3' aluminum plate was not based on any calculation... but more on mechanical and wind stability. I can tell you that it has survived a storm with 100mph gusts! Since it's only about 1/4" off the ground, the wind is not able to get under the aluminum plate enough to be an issue. I've been using this antenna for many months now... and it's surpassed my expectations for performance.
@Amerikanin2numarali_ustasi3 жыл бұрын
how is swr?
@TelstarElectronics3 жыл бұрын
There's a matching network inside the box. The match is 1.1:1
@GuillermoLopez-kw4hc3 жыл бұрын
Any one know if this lil ' issue still exists on this transistor I'm gone upgrade my Radio with 5 of this ( probably they update them) Question to a professional person... Thanks and advance... 73s
@TelstarElectronics3 жыл бұрын
Of course it still exists... this is a 1MHz transistor. Anyone who thinks it will work well above 5MHz, doesn't have a clue.
@GuillermoLopez-kw4hc3 жыл бұрын
@@TelstarElectronics thx for Reply thx for the info 👍🏼
@williammoss13104 жыл бұрын
"The CB crowd" Hey....I represent that remark 😂
@TelstarElectronics4 жыл бұрын
I can tell from your response that you're not part of "the CB crowd" I was referring to... :)
@ronedwards82394 жыл бұрын
More snake oil, isn’t this just another rebranded device? But what about the shop that puts them in every radio and claims he’s the only one in the world that knows how to tune a radio. I saw it on the internet so it must be true....
@TelstarElectronics4 жыл бұрын
Yes, these are nothing more than general purpose 1MHz MOSFETs... that have like 3dB gain at 27MHZ. Rocket Box and Palomar amps use them. They work like crap.
@scotthansen4294 жыл бұрын
Nice. I need something like that so I don't have a big intrusive tower in my neighborhood. Someday I'd like to set up a base at my house
@TelstarElectronics4 жыл бұрын
Exactly right... I wanted a semi-portable antenna with some good gain... that I didn't have to mount on the house.
@TelstarElectronics2 жыл бұрын
Nah... the Zepp is too big! I don't have anything to string up a 1/2 wavelength vertical. My 1/4 wave ground plane is all self-contained and needs only a surface to set it on.
@goobermintheretik14544 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an Engineer's perspective. Was looking for a 7530 replacement. Apparently Palomar and their 9530s are consistent with today's business model: lie, cheat and steal until caught bare butt naked; then sic your army of thieving lawyers onto the opposition and wear 'em down in court. Cant even get a King/McD burger with real beef anymore. Its either meme or pink slime filled.
@TelstarElectronics4 жыл бұрын
There are some very clever "scammers" out there in the world...
@nandrews84124 жыл бұрын
Would like to see you work with the newer Sic Fets and GaN Fets. 👍 I heard they love volts as well.
@TelstarElectronics4 жыл бұрын
My major focus is the low-voltage mobile environment... so I'm really not into FETs as a rule.
@krazzykiller13 жыл бұрын
@@TelstarElectronics what would be a good drop in replacement for these? since they are probably a Chinese communist brand that costs maybe 20 cents each before rebranding. since you are an engineer and you have one in hand or you did a year ago. no doubt you could match it up on mouser.com prety easy. they are restricting the supply to drive the price even higher now. lits like 13 dollars a fet now. be nice if someone could bust that up a little.
@TelstarElectronics3 жыл бұрын
There shouldn't be a drop-in replacement even considered... since these transistors are not meant to be used for 27MHz operation!
@buckaroobonsi5554 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you back on youtube uploading. I hope your move went well and you are getting settled in!