I feel like this is true of Pluto in my first house. Just finished reading Steve Judd's book on Pluto and I can see how the power of Pluto's self-empowerment in my first house has gotten me through life. I have no 8th house planets. My husband has a Moon in Aquarius in the 8th house. The Aquarius energy keeps his emotions superficial, and him out of touch with them. But his emotions are deep, just hidden.

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So interesting hearing the myth of Sedna. I saw an interview with Snow Raven on Just Tap. Her people are from the Russisn Tundra. She wanted to play the drums but she had yo have permission through a Sharman ceremony to play them . Her drums were made if reindeer skin femine energy. There are lot of songs. Ravens connect different worlds, dimensions. In the story Melanie read She said parents. What was her mother doing? Although it seems that Although mothers have had arranged marriages they eill still sacrifice their daughters in the same way. Just some more thoughts to add. Love the interview ❤

Excellent topic and discussion, thank you both, I would have listened to an even deeper dive into this for hours. One thing that stands out from this myth for me is that Orestes is torn not only between mother and father but also the Divine Masculine and Feminine archetypes - if he favors his mother/Feminine he is denied and punished by Apollo (Leo/5th House, self-identity, play, creativity, children) and if he favors his father/Masculine he is tormented by the Furies/Feminine (unconscious, Plutonic, 8th House, shared resources, intimacy, destiny, rebirth...), showing both the individual and collective consequences of false values and "laws" being modelled and proliferated through descendant generations. The Christian approximation "...For I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquities of the fathers on the sons to the third and fourth generation...(Exodus 20:5)" seems to have been equally misunderstood and misapplied; you'd think that after so long, there should have been the realization that it isn't a commandment to be followed, wouldn't you? Yet here we are, the "nut" still doesn't fall far from the family tree and we still largely fail to question our misspent labors, preferring to blame the fruit itself for poor outcomes ( "the kids (politicians, corporations, etc.) these days..."). I say YES!, blame the mistakes of the parents, and the cultural narratives and false values, and everything else that contributes to the intergenerational decline of the planet and the human condition, so the dysfunctionality can finally be called out and corrected instead of repeated. I've seen too much - it stops with me, I will NOT visit the iniquities of my fathers and mothers on another generation, if it means being the last in line, Apollo and the Furies and all other jealous gods be damned.

Yeah Jane Austen - she knew a thing or two! Thoroughly enjoyed this and guess what book I will be buying very soon! Thank you both for this.

Thank you so much! So interesting indeed. I did research family dynamics (7 generations) both on birth and (in case passed over) death charts amazing results. As far as I have been able to look into it, it seems to be the person with Yod(s) in their chart combined with their lifestory that has a potential to break through. It would be so interesting to do more research though. Many thanks and blessings from the Netherlands

Love the numerology/astrology overlap. SO important.

Nice interview. I have found that unless the planets/transits are taking place in angular houses, (or strongly affecting them) they aren’t as noticeable. You have to really think about it to see it.

Always nice to have Anthony Louis on, he's a legend, love his books! 😎❤

That’s an amazing bookcase

Saturn tr my 12th house for two years now, one to go. Lost my long term spouse. Hard stuff, unbearable grief. Saturn has been conj. Mars all year, too.

Dear Ana, thank you for sharing videos on such a wide variety of topics to ponder during 2024. Wishing you all the best for the coming year. Much thanks, from Anita

It's always inspiring to hear from Richard! Thanks to both of you

Thank you for this ! As a bond fan looks a fun read. nany blessings .....🍸🇬🇧🎄☃️

This was so interesting and really brilliant.

@ 40:00 precisely...we live in mystery⚡️

Such a darling lady (both of you) I am really really appriciating your presentations Ana Isobel (very healing for me right now!) Thankyou Thankyou❤

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Brilliant, thankyou so much to you and Richard. This discussion is timely for me, with finding myself in a situation that has been ongoing for 6mnths, and with realising how unwell it is making me (in body and mind) because i havnt kept sturdy boundaries and have felt as though i cannot say no to these people😬. Its amazing how it has effected my thoughts and feelings, i cant wait to *escape* this situation finally (6th and 12th house placements natally with the moon conjunct aries asc and pluto conjunct desc😅) Thankyou both for mentioning the various books, i need to read these and i hope Richard comes back for further discussions with you on this topic🙌💕

Around 36:50 - now it makes sense to me. I have been 'hermitting' since 2019 and, this year, I felt ready to 'come outside' again although, not yet fully.

A wonderfully intelligent and insightful discussion between you both! I knew Richard only slightly by email before now; it's really good to hear him properly here.

I have been studying astrology for years and must say that I feel like I am appreciating the work of Steven Forrest more and more. Lots of light gping off. Thank you both.

If they want to raise there game to the healing level then tell them to become pure, without purity they will never be able to reach beyond ordinary, and that is why majority of people practicing spiritual life do not elevate.

This is absolutely stunning. Thank you for going so deeply into the areas that take so much courage to explore 🙏

Thankyou

Extraordinary discussion. Thank you Ana for bringing such wonderfully trained and inspired teachers to your programme.....

Wow, one of the happiest people ive seen, such a lovely guest, thankyou for this information❤

Thank you!

Was yearning for this talk and here it is. This is 12/9/2024 and Neptune has just stationed Direct, Pluto is in Aquarius opposite Mars, Venus conjunct Pluto etc etc. This talk is perfect at this moment! XO

Wow! What an amazing discussion. So important about our creativity being stunted/stolen. And one wonders why there's a mental health crisis for all ages. A big thankbyou, both of you🎉 xxx

Great deep conversation Melanie and Anne Isabel, wonderful how you both inspire the conversation , Gratitude for your wisdom and seaeching Anneke Wittermans

@34:50 i think of the book 'The Metamorphosis of Plants' by Goethe.

BLM is conjunction my asc in Gemini. I was abused by satanic cult 3 yrs old. Married a famous person who turned out to pedophile our son. Family society judicial systems in England and Australia refused to protect my son aged in 3. I was labelled mentally ill. No justice yet I’m now 64. Moon in Scorpio 6 house

What a wonderful man!

How wonderful, thankyou both!!❤❤

Greetings 🙏🏼

I could not offer only a "👍" on this one Ana, I would be consumed with self-loathing if I did not properly express my gratitude for the sensitivity and equanimity with which you and Lianne approached the ongoing 2500+ year life-and-death struggle for balance between Masculine and Feminine that the Lilith archetype (whose name has been and often continues to be maligned and spoken in vain) is tortured and torn between. Conversations like this add richness and an opportunity to explore greater depths of Her meaning beyond the all-too-popular appearances in the arsenal of (all too un-Feminine) "gender politics" operatives - after all, what is so "nature"al, "nurture"ing, or "liberating", about four generations and counting of motherless children? It's about damn time She was finally given a fair and balanced hearing and reasonable advocates not intent on revenge, maintaining the status-quo, or turning the tables. A bit of a "unique" perspective: As a Schizoid man, with a very Feminine and very wet natal chart ( Lilith/Chiron/Saturn conjunct in Pisces 2nd house trine with Neptune in Scorpio and Jupiter/Juno in Cancer, opposing Mercury/Sun/Uranus/Pluto/Venus/Vesta in Virgo 8th/7th - kite pattern) I find many of the Lilith descriptions to be too adversarial or alienating to relate with. My own interest in the archetype centers on Her as an Anima figure recently emerging as what I interpret as a "part" in a spontaneously unfolding internal narrative. She first "appeared" when She stepped out from the shadow of a dragonfly on a windowpane (psychopomp archetype; Hermes) cast from the light of a sickle moon, wearing nothing but her symbols of power and a sharp-toothed smile : "You know me. You have always known me, though you have forgotten. I come to you neither naked nor ashamed, but as I was created, as were you." She has a thirst for Life and definitely likes being "on top", but She also leaves gifts - new "rosaries", rose-colored "love bites", and long-stemmed roses complete with thorns to prick fingers and draw forth a few precious drops of Life to fall on a cold alabaster tomb : "Why do you tease me with mere drops of yourself darling, when I have waited here so long? Come to me, give yourself to me, and you shall have all that I am - there's room inside for two." Later, following Her "resurrection" and dressed in a hooded "gown" fashioned from her burial shroud, a few of Her choice words from an air-clearing exchange concerning Her "vampiric" nature : "...Who drove the stake through YOUR heart? What evil were YOU accused of...that would cause you to hate me so much that you would drive the stake with your own hand? 'Fall on my own sword'...'Honor'...you dishonor yourself for the satisfaction of those who are dishonorable and dishonor Life itself!...Life or Death, Ronin, me AND you, or me OR you? CHOOSE!" Her language has an archaic quality, but it is crystal clear that She feels She was mortally wounded, savagely wronged, and demands justice and respect; and seeks understanding...and reconciliation. Maybe, with conversations like this one, it won't take another 2,500 years.

Lillith 00:55 Leo in the 10th opposite Pluto Thank you for your wisdom Ana & Lianne

What a fantastic sharing! Heartfelt thank you Melanie and Ana Isabel. I really enjoyed the profound and rich and nuanced levels that the exploration of Sedna and her myth took you both on. While I have Known Melanie for many years. I'm new to Ana Isabel but after this I have subscribed and look forward to other episodes. Gratitude and bright blessings

What a pleasure to See you both❤

wonderful discussion and fodder for my art. Please tell me the book name etc that was mentioned that is now back in print thank you

Thank you for this beautiful deep conversation. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

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Dear Ana, it is always a pleasure to listen to your deep conversations, and this session with Melanie Reinhart, who is a joy to listen to, has touched me in a very special and powerful way, I am moved and enormously grateful. Thank you so much for sharing your brilliant minds and hearts.

Robert E Grant in a conversation with Emilio Ortiz I watched two days ago, said the following that gave me an insight into the importance of myth to our collective psyche and potential for healing:- “We have to realise that in a matrix of mind all the mythology is true and what we are living is not what we are living. The mythology that we’ve basically heard about is what we are doing we’re literally living this stuff over and over again and that creates an echo through this Möbius strip of time. So you hear about a story that’s a myth it’s actually a story about you being told through thousands of years of time over campfires and everything else because what we consider to be our distant past is also our distant future” I wrote this in my journal because I understood why myth is so vital and the more I listen to fabulous astrologers like Melanie Reinhardt, Pam Gregory and Heather Ensworth the more I sense a timeless connection to the Cosmos and how our individual lives are integrated into all that is. Thank you both so much for sharing your profound insights. In gratitude 🙏💚

That was wide-ranging and informative, thank you Ana and Melanie. The disturbing incident in the myth of Sedna about the ‘severance of hands’ by her own father, could well be a sign of the times with Uranus soon joining Sedna in Gemini. Gemini is about communication, and the ‘severance of hands’ is symbolic of women being unable to communicate their situations due to being deliberately silenced, cut off or killed. Sedna was literally frozen out by patriarchy. Even pre-arranged marriages are symbolic of women traditionally having no say in the matter. However, signs of the ‘divine masculine’ are encouraging as we are already seeing positive changes in sexual and gender politics. Astrologically, Sedna is about transcendence and rising above a situation. So, hopefully we can rise above the frostbites of patriarchy that have subjugated us for so long. X

Thank you for this wonderfully deep and mythic conversation 🙏🏼 I listened twice as there was so much to take on board. I love the idea of the 12 holy nights and will be doing it for the first time this year! ✨🤩

Thank you so much for this. ❤

Good morning there... Lovely to see you both.. 😇🥰Never support any weapons of destruction, ever...

This was wonderful - thank you both!