Washy, irritating cymbals? Try This!
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@InkyXI
@InkyXI 23 минут бұрын
I love a good squash! :) You're ace. In case you didn't already know.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 15 минут бұрын
Thank you very much! You are awesome too! ☺️
@davidcummins3005
@davidcummins3005 12 сағат бұрын
Nice to see you back
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 10 сағат бұрын
Thank you very much!! It’s really nice to be back!
@Tung68karaoke
@Tung68karaoke Күн бұрын
Hello, can you tell me if there is a way to enlarge Meloline? It has an error and cannot be enlarged to make it easier to work with.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer Күн бұрын
Hey! Normally, Melodyne’s window size is changed by dragging the bottom right corner of the window. What happens if you try that?
@pipelineaudio
@pipelineaudio 4 күн бұрын
Oh no, no cymbals! That's where you really hear the 1176 stuff to me
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 3 күн бұрын
You mean you hear the effect mostly on the cymbals?
@pipelineaudio
@pipelineaudio 3 күн бұрын
@ I’m mean when we are showing the. NUke options it’s super obvious on cymbals. Usually have a midi loop of the led zeppelin thing and let the students play with the buttons
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 3 күн бұрын
I understand what you mean now! Indeed, cymbals definitely come forward when smashing with the 1176 on overheads or the drum bus.
@pipelineaudio
@pipelineaudio 3 күн бұрын
@ I love that you actually do the a b comparison. Usually people just make claims and you don’t really get to see what’s going on.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 3 күн бұрын
@@pipelineaudio Thank you ever so much for saying that! One of the things I really want to do here is show all the working and the comparisons, so there’s as much honesty and transparency about my workflow and tips as possible! I never want to mislead anyone!
@imremozsik1012
@imremozsik1012 6 күн бұрын
Man, I just love how you make a whole new world out of delicate, intricate parts of a mix. Super deep and helpfull. Thank you and keep it up, please!
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 6 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!! I really appreciate you watching!!
@JETFORCEJUN0
@JETFORCEJUN0 6 күн бұрын
Great deep dive Alex thank you.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 6 күн бұрын
Thank you!!
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 9 күн бұрын
So you're putting a Noise Gate on the Overhead Mic Cymbals to make decay and cut off the cymbal wash and make a tighter cymbal mix between each cymbal strike hit?
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 9 күн бұрын
That’s absolutely it! I don’t think it’s something you’ll use every mix, but it’s great when you need it.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 9 күн бұрын
@@AlexWhiteComposer ok thanks
@Erix77
@Erix77 9 күн бұрын
Nevermind the cymbals. Damn, every man alive must envy your hair🤩 anyway, great vid👍🏻
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 9 күн бұрын
Haha! This has made my day!! Thank you ever so much for watching!!
@berseoldrik6683
@berseoldrik6683 10 күн бұрын
I'm having a hard time trying to discern how this works with a video uploaded in mono.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 10 күн бұрын
I actually do a lot of my work in mono, and this is just the kind of thing that’s perfect to adjust in mono when mixing. What is it that mono is causing you trouble with here? If you let me know what you’re struggling with perhaps I can address it in any future videos where I’m using mono?
@berseoldrik6683
@berseoldrik6683 10 күн бұрын
Just because the center of the stereo field is crowded when a mix is collapsed to mono. Transients from the shells are shadowing those in the cymbals,and, IMHO ,that defeats the whole didactic purpouse of the video. Anyway it's a gpod idea to implement this technique with splashy cymbals. I often reach for a transient designer,hardware when tracking or software when mixing to achieve the same.goals. Cheers!!!
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 10 күн бұрын
Thank you ever so much for your input! I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment and I’ll take your feedback on board for future videos! Thank you again and have a wonderful day!
@nickdenardo6479
@nickdenardo6479 4 күн бұрын
i also use a transient designer to accentuate the hits and take the wash out .... maybe I'll have a go at this technique next time.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, lovely stuff with the transient designer! I do love those too! I think this way is a bit of a different thing maybe to use in conjunction with transient designers if necessary. I don’t think it’s solving quite the same issue as a transient designer would (although there is plenty of cross over). Thank you ever so much for watching and commenting!
@rockboy360
@rockboy360 11 күн бұрын
That was unthinkable! Amazing trick man, thank you so much!
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 11 күн бұрын
So happy you liked it!! Many thanks for watching!!
@RainbowRadioLab
@RainbowRadioLab 11 күн бұрын
Nice job using just the basic channel strip! Thanks! 👍🏼
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 11 күн бұрын
Thank you!! Yeah, I do love a channel strip! What about it you? Do you like channel strips for mixing?
@RainbowRadioLab
@RainbowRadioLab 11 күн бұрын
@AlexWhiteComposer I hated them until I learned to use a Neve EQ. Then I knew what I was trying to do with the SSL. Once I got past that, it didn't take long to appreciate the stuff you can do with the SSL gate and figure out how to get saturation. Like most things it's a learning curve.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 11 күн бұрын
@ oh I can completely relate to this kind of thing! So many times I’ve caught myself totally discounting processors only to fall in love with them a year later! I find it amazing how much subtlety there is in learning these audio tools!
@TheMajikelOne
@TheMajikelOne 11 күн бұрын
I feel like the best song in the world for me can be spoiled by a harsh cymbal sound. Having methods to tame it without losing it in the mix is awesome. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 11 күн бұрын
Thank you!!!
@twitcheyspleen
@twitcheyspleen 11 күн бұрын
Appreciate your video. gentle suggestion to de-ess your voice.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching and for your suggestion! I will do on future videos!
@mrsir2007
@mrsir2007 12 күн бұрын
I read the thumbnail as "Soften Gymbals with this" and was so confused lmaooo
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 12 күн бұрын
Haha! 😅
@joshwest8882
@joshwest8882 9 күн бұрын
What are gymbals
@mrsir2007
@mrsir2007 9 күн бұрын
@@joshwest8882 no idea lmaooo but that's what it looked like. And I was wondering the same thing
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 9 күн бұрын
Well, I definitely don’t know what a Gymbal is! 🤣 But for amusement I checked the dictionary and there is a Gimbal! Is it the font that makes it look like a G, or the colour on the background?
@Borisroom
@Borisroom 12 күн бұрын
Very insightful! got a new subscriber here.👌
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 12 күн бұрын
Thank you ever so much! I’m really happy you liked it! And so appreciate your sub!!
@TJBEATSAMV
@TJBEATSAMV 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the vid !!
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!! My pleasure!
@shermanburks3661
@shermanburks3661 15 күн бұрын
Welcome back, glad to hear from you again, another useful approach as usual.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 15 күн бұрын
Thank you ever so much! Wonderful to be back! Really appreciate you watching. Hope you’re having a good day!
@TheMajikelOne
@TheMajikelOne 20 күн бұрын
You made that sound so much better to my ears! Lots of details too, really informative, thanks!!
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 20 күн бұрын
Thanks mate! I really appreciate that!!
@JETFORCEJUN0
@JETFORCEJUN0 20 күн бұрын
He's back! Thanks for the vid Alex.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 20 күн бұрын
Hey dude! Thank you for giving it a watch!
@MFWhite
@MFWhite 21 күн бұрын
Great to see you back Alex nice tip
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 20 күн бұрын
Thank you!! It’s great to be back!
@alunorb4771
@alunorb4771 Ай бұрын
I use Vidplay with Luna too. Love both. Though my use cases are different, your advice on how to solve the tempo change issue is super useful. Much gratitude.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 22 күн бұрын
Thank you ever so much! I’m glad it helped you a little! ☺️
@wyshwood
@wyshwood Ай бұрын
LOVE this technique. Very useful. Thanks.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 22 күн бұрын
Thank you! I’m so glad you found it helpful!
@MegaBernds
@MegaBernds 2 ай бұрын
thank you sooooooooo much for this
@thegroove2000
@thegroove2000 3 ай бұрын
And harmonic saturation.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 3 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! Love a bit of that too!
@jazzzfer
@jazzzfer 5 ай бұрын
You are AWESOME!
@fonduehead
@fonduehead 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Alex, best explaining Melodyne ever
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video!
@joshuaudofia1903
@joshuaudofia1903 8 ай бұрын
I have to come back and look for you just to say thank you. This is very intelligent and helpful, this idea costs a million dollars, thank you so much for sharing. Tried it last night on a song I’m working on and boom, everything sounds so sweet and incredible. Thank you so much, I’m going straight to your channel to check out your other videos, thank you
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 7 ай бұрын
Hey man, this is so wonderful to hear!! I am so happy you have found it helpful! Let me know how the mix progresses!
@JETFORCEJUN0
@JETFORCEJUN0 Жыл бұрын
Really insightful, and great score. Nice work Alex.
@StevePhillips-f1e
@StevePhillips-f1e Жыл бұрын
Another great video packed with useful information, one of the best KZbin music studio teachers !!
@Dmyra
@Dmyra Жыл бұрын
great vid! what did they do back in the day to achieve this effect i wonder?
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios Жыл бұрын
Oh Yeah... Would you be so kind as to do a video in which you "break down" the mechanics of what is happening in "76" style compressors, when the "all in"/"Nuke" functionality is activated? I'd be curious as to whether it it is merely super compressed, OR if all of those ratios are applying mildly different timings/sync, etc... or anything more than merely a "high ratio".
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer 9 күн бұрын
Hey, I know it’s a bit late, but I’m going to make this video on the 1176! Hope you are doing well!!
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios Жыл бұрын
What is that noise at @10:38... do you have a mixing console or something?
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios Жыл бұрын
SUUUUUPerrrrr USEFUL video, Brother! I'd LOVE to see a video covering usage of LA3A vs LA2A. (Sidenote: Did you use a compressor for your fade-in/out for this video? I ask because the way that it came in and out... the timing was really weird in that your voice and the example audio were out of time when they came in and out many times. It gave me a weird (almost motion sickness) type of "out of sync" feeling. But, i'm just one guy. Hopefully no one else was impacted.
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios Жыл бұрын
How did you place drums upon the Grid?
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios Жыл бұрын
You continue to SLAY with your tutorials, Brother! Could we please get a tutorial on how to use compressors based in the Gates Sta-Level? And as a follow on to busses would be AMAZING to see a series or long form video on building mixbusses, in which you use different songs to show us umyour assembly of multiple mix buses (at least 3, preferably different genres) so that you can explain what you are adding, what that choice is treating within your mix, and why you feel that it was tge right choice verses some similar tools which you could list and share what the consequences may have been with those tools versus the one you decided upon. I specify all of these details as a reminder to us all that choices will be "use case" dependent, and so that we can learn some of the analytical processes which we should likely consider when weighing choices. :-) Oh yeah, and PLEASE a 3rd request: On Mac, how would we use the MIDI Studio settings? Apple is painfully negligent on a tutorifor it, amd it seems that it could likely be VERY useful.
@joshrainbow-IceTenor
@joshrainbow-IceTenor Жыл бұрын
Hi Alexander, amazing video and awesome you are working in Luna and have a sphere mic. I need some help. Yesterday I recorded with my DLX sphere a vocalist. I wanted to use melodyne to tune the vocals which it does, however, I notice the Sphere plug in, the microphone I chose, doesn't work anymore. When I want to change the mic or even want to change the settings in the plug in nothing responds, it is like melodyne took over. When I put the melodyne above the plug in I get an alert that the mic isn't calibrated. So, isn't this possible? UAD said it does work perfectly when place the melodyne in the first slot and the sphere plug in after, but it doesn't with me....I see you bounced the track with the chosen mic, however, here is another question, you can see in the original that the stereo of the original has one signal from the front of the mic and the bottom one the back which I guess gives it a nice quality - when you bounce the track and bring it back in the stereo volume is equal. Doesn't that change the character compared to the original? When the original comes into my vocal bus it does enter the track equally. Another thought is that melodyne grabs the track mono, doesn't that change the character of the original recorded stereo track? I think I hear a difference, however, the mind can play tricks on your ears 🙂- I presume you, like me, tried many ways to tune vocals using the sphere mic, so I love to hear your mind about how you do it in this video is the only way to do it, or that it is possible to put melodyne on the same original vocal track and make it work...Thanks in advance
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer Жыл бұрын
Hey there! Well firstly, thank you for watching the video! It’s great to have you here! So, I can definitely shed some light on what’s going on for you with Melodyne. Basically, the plugin “takes over” anything before it. So in LUNA right now, if you have any plugin before Melodyne, then use Melodyne’s Capture to import audio into it for tuning, the only thing you’ll ever hear play back is Melodyne’s audio from the plugin onwards - so you’re quite right in that anything you change in the plugin chain before Melodyne will indeed do absolutely nothing! This also causes issues with moving or editing your regions on the timeline. If you’ve imported it into the Melodyne plugin and tuned something, then move a region, you’ll notice that the audio will still play back in its original position. The most natural workflow is to decide on a mic setting before tuning, as then you’ll never have Melodyne interacting or interfering with Sphere. Once you’ve done your tuning, export and then reimport the now committed Melodyne tuning and you won’t have Melodyne messing around with this “taking over” stuff it does. Also, to explain about the stereo file and the two sides of the audio. When you capture audio with Sphere raw, you’ll absolutely see the top part larger (front of the mic) and the bottom part smaller (rear) assuming the sound source is in front of the mic. You then use Sphere, but if you then export audio afterwards, you’ll notice the two sides of the stereo file look the same. That is because the Sphere plugin is dual mono. So although the front and back stereo signal goes into the mic, what comes out is actually a mono signal - or as we’ll call it, dual mono.
@TheMajikelOne
@TheMajikelOne Жыл бұрын
Another great video Alex, it's cool seeing options like this for small studios and lo-fi low budget options!
@danielmooney899
@danielmooney899 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this 💯
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!! Thank you!
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios Жыл бұрын
3 Questions: 1)Are there tools which your recommend for checking "Phase Coherence" between mic positions (live during mic check, instead of tracking and then having to resolve after recognizing poor phase alignment, after the fact? Unrelated 2)Do you own the UAD "Complete" Bundle? 3)Do you feel that the Complete Bundle is worth the upgrade in comparison to the "Ultimate" Bundle?
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer Жыл бұрын
Hey! So, with the phase whilst tracking, I don’t have any special workflow other than recording and then double checking. Zooming right in on the wave forms to check is something I do a little bit of, but mostly just deciding on a master microphone and then making sure everything is aligned to that is a good start. Of course, that doesn’t mean everything will be in phase because you can get things that are 90° out of phase. There are certainly plugins that will help fix phase between mics for you, too. Which can help! With UAD, you might have noticed I’m a big, big fan of their stuff. However, I don’t own any of their bundles, I just buy what I need as it comes up. I have a fairly decent selection of their stuff, and I do think they are worth the money, but only if you definitely have a use case for everything.
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios Жыл бұрын
Back to listen on headphones
@KarenBasset
@KarenBasset Жыл бұрын
Why is your camera randomly moving? Love your videos. The camera thing is distracting though.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer Жыл бұрын
Oh I know, it’s so annoying! It was an attempt to have the camera auto track me between the mix position and the drums and it absolutely has not worked! 😂 I won’t be trying this on any future videos for sure!
@justfontaineband
@justfontaineband Жыл бұрын
Really interesting video and technique, Alexander. Looking forward to seeing the follow up and hoping you may even release the raw drum samples you recorded (I’d love to use them in a song 😊).
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer Жыл бұрын
Thank you ever so much! You know, I hadn’t thought about releasing the samples but I totally will do now that you’ve mentioned it! Thank you for suggesting it!!
@justfontaineband
@justfontaineband Жыл бұрын
@@AlexWhiteComposer that would be amazing. There are so few natural/raw kit samples to be found. Thanks again
@louiearthurs7203
@louiearthurs7203 Жыл бұрын
never thought of this before nice one alex!
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer Жыл бұрын
Thank you dude!! ☺️
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios Жыл бұрын
Interesting Topic. Great content (as per usual), Brother. I would LOVE to hear more about strategies for setting vocals & instruments apart through use of hardware & software distortion & saturation tools.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer Жыл бұрын
I will have a think about this and see what I can come up with! Thank you for the suggestion!
@obelusyt
@obelusyt Жыл бұрын
great explanation! it would be nice to see examples of how to get creative with those phase pitfalls
@yaoguangtang1759
@yaoguangtang1759 Жыл бұрын
So important! Thank you for your sharing.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!! 😊😊
@zarlok5294
@zarlok5294 Жыл бұрын
Why does the 1176 impact the LA 2 A when it’s second in the chain?
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer Жыл бұрын
Hey there! I think maybe I confused you by earlier in the video when I’m demo’ing the LA-2A, I begin with it first in the chain, but then later when I’m demo’ing the impact the 1176 has, it’s the 1176 that’s first in the chain. Sorry for any confusion! I’ll be careful to let watchers know when I swap plugin order during the videos in the future!
@davidwitte6466
@davidwitte6466 Жыл бұрын
At 7:20, you said you were speeding up attack and release times on 1176, but moved the knobs to the right, which I believe would increase these times. Did you mean to say you were slowing these times? Just want to make sure I understand correctly. Thanks for the video.
@AlexWhiteComposer
@AlexWhiteComposer Жыл бұрын
Hey! Awesome question! On the 1176, the fastest attack and release times are when the controls are turned clockwise, or to the right. The slowest attack and release are to the left. The numbering is from 1 to 7, which means absolutely nothing! It’s just arbitrary! So the 1176 is different from the vast majority of compressors, where the faster times are indeed to the right! Thank you ever so much for watching!
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios Жыл бұрын
I'll have to come back to watch with headphones.
@TheMajikelOne
@TheMajikelOne Жыл бұрын
This is great, I often feel the high end of cymbals can stick out and feel offensive to me. I'm hopeful techniques like this can tame what I'm hearing. Love the highlights on the cursor to show what you are doing on the DAW helps focus on where to look.