Subscribed😊👍it's interesting to see how you are customising everything I've got one question, why are you building your switchboard out of conductive metal and then isolating everything. Surely in a Saltwater environment a non conductive, non corrosive, composite switchboard would be better? Less chance of shorts and alot easier to build. Keep up the good work I can't wait to see the test data
@modularhippo5 сағат бұрын
Thank you for subscribing and taking time to comment😊. A composite material would definitely have been better. Designing the boards in CAD and laser cut was a quick way to get the project up and running. Before the final assembly, I will paint the boards in a none conductive paint (maybe even a thin layer of epoxy) in the hope to make it a bit safer. Your point is valid and will give it some extra thought when I come to finalise:) Thanks again for the feedback and for taking an interest :).
@CncObsession22 сағат бұрын
Looks like a fun build. Tip in case you didnt know, just print your CAD file. You can verify sizing and placement without cutting anything but paper.
@modularhippo13 сағат бұрын
That is a really good idea , thank you. Did not know that was possible, so I will explore that next time:) Big thank you for the great idea and for giving feedback:)
@evboatconversion.electricboat2 күн бұрын
You might want to relocate or cover the batteries for safety.
@modularhippo2 күн бұрын
Hi - Thank you for your comment, which also led me to your interesting project. You got a new subscriber:) At the moment they are single batteries and not in contact with each other. I am all for safety so if you feel that they are a fire hazard in their current state then please expand on where the risk is and I will find a solution:) Thank You👍🏻
@evboatconversion.electricboat2 күн бұрын
@modularhippo My thinking is that a stray wrench might get dropped there. Even if they are not connected, probably not a good idea.
@modularhippo2 күн бұрын
@evboatconversion.electricboat You got a good point, thank you for pointing it out. I Will sort some form of a cover and maybe also make sure that there is some form of extra none cotivctive material between the stacked layers just in case:) Thanks again👍🏻
@danbellows95293 күн бұрын
Love the shirt. 😅
@modularhippo3 күн бұрын
Ha Ha - Great shirt, generates allot of smiles😄
@bigpistol210 күн бұрын
Are you using pure lithium 18650s instead of LifePO4 in a wet environment?
@modularhippo10 күн бұрын
Sorry, I responded from my personal account. I will definitely check out Big Clive. Thank you for pointing me in that direction👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@mathewpelletier534814 күн бұрын
Nice dual motor design! much needed for the diy teams! Question; what keeps the main shaft, that is coupled directly to the propeller shaft, from shifting fore and aft? You didn't use a thrust bearing, are you relying on the locking collars on the flange pillow-block bearings? Also wondering if propeller shaft itself needs something to keep it from sliding out... so some type of thrust bearing if your main drive shaft is direct coupled to propeller shaft could provide both functions... as cutlass bearing doesn't provide any thrust resistance, it was previously provided by the diesel motor's transmission, which has been removed so will need to be replaced... as prop is converter torque to thrust; gtiven equal and opposite reactions suggest a sizable thrust force is going to be applied to the shaft...
@TheSoilandGreen23 күн бұрын
Good stuff thanks for the brain food.
@modularhippo22 күн бұрын
Your welcome, thanks for watching:)👍🏻
@TheSoilandGreen23 күн бұрын
Google translate can help you with names
@modularhippo22 күн бұрын
@TheSoilandGreen Hi - as English is not my first language (I am Swedish), that is a good idea. Finding the time is more the issue thease days:) Hopefully most of it will make sense:)👍🏻
@TheSoilandGreen23 күн бұрын
Without spacers and thread locktite
@modularhippo22 күн бұрын
Thank you, Locktite seems to be the way forward:) Thank you for taking time to give feedback:)
@ericdelevinquiere990229 күн бұрын
Just wondering why coupling 2 motors? Also these motors will not freewheel ( definitely a drag on performance) so it would be nice to see a shaft disconnect of some sorts maybe for each motor so you could work or replace on the way. And another thought, most of these motors have peak efficiency at higher speeds so running them slow may get you in very inefficient territory. Better run a lesser power one at optimal speed with the ratios worked out and decoupled from the bigger one and use the later when you need it (kind of like what Tesla does). This could also improve your regen ability which really sucks at low speed.
@Lagittaja29 күн бұрын
The lower pulley is a double groove, motors single groove with their own tensioners so easy enough to work on either one. As far as RPM's and ratios goes, to me it looks like he has plenty of room to play with pulley ratios. Then there's also the propeller to play with. Plenty of opportunities to tune the system.
@modularhippo29 күн бұрын
All great points! Disconnecting one motor during sail may well be the way forward from a regen perspective. There are so many parts in play, and each have their own limitations and optimisations, so unless tested in real application, it is hard to know where to start. I have a feeling that there will be a lot of tweaks down the line:) Cost is also a factor. I could get a propeller for 4K that would fix a lot of regen questions, but as my budget is 1/6 of that, I will have to settle for something basic and work around it. The motors have an optimised area where I get the best output against the least amount of power, and that is my starting point. As soon as all hooked up, we can get some real life figures to play with:) - Like the idea of some form of quick disconnect as could come well in handy. Thanks.
@SV_SheDevil29 күн бұрын
It does look amazing and I am happy to see your progress. Have you given any thought to a thrust bearing plate on the drive shaft? Also I believe the antivibration mounts will be ok for a time. However the torque from them will eventually tear them up.
@modularhippo29 күн бұрын
Hi - The boat I am building have a thrust bearing plate as part of it's design and makes prefect sense to transfer the energy to that plate instead of the motor via shaft. The recommended part for my boat is Aquadrive CV Joint CV05 part# 607001 Thrust Bearing B10 part# 6110210 (but may substitute them for other brands if I find something equally as good but for less $). I agree, I will definitely keep an eye on the rubber parts of the mounds over time. :)
@MonstroLab29 күн бұрын
i don't know why Aqua/python Drives are so expensive when they are basically CV joints like from old Porsche/VW...maybe they are higher tolerance? also i would think they wouldn't be necessary on electric motors (lighter than diesel ICE) especially with precision fabricated steel mounts like in this video.
@SV_SheDevil29 күн бұрын
@MonstroLab cv joint is a cv joint if it can tolerate the torque and is the correct size I would use it especially if the cost is substantially lower.
@MonstroLab29 күн бұрын
@@SV_SheDevil i think read somewhere online where a guy used CV joints from old VW bug...im going to google these key words try find it
@modularhippo29 күн бұрын
@MonstroLab - Not a bad idea! Anything with the word 'sailboat' seems to magically tripple in price these days, so we'll worth checking alternatives:)
@Lagittaja29 күн бұрын
The reason internal combustion engines for example in cars are mounted with compliant mounts is due to relatively large masses moving in a reciprocating motion or rotational motion. The biggest contribution are the pistons going up and down. But there's many things moving inside an internal combustion engine so if you want to learn more about it, look up the Wikipedia article titled "Engine balance". So if you hard mount an internal combustion engine, all those vibrations get transmitted through the thing it's mounted to. Things are going to break. Does the engine mind? I don't know, probably not good for it but it's probably not going to break anytime soon. Where as an electric engine just rotates. Though that doesn't mean it won't have any vibrations. Grab an electric drill and turn it on. You'll feel it has some vibrations. Sure the rotor is balanced (hopefully) but it's not a gyroscope going to space so it isn't perfect. The bearings aren't perfect either. But the vibrations will be higher frequency. But will the mounts be effective in reducing that higher frequency vibration? I don't know. Usually boat engine mounts assume you're slapping something more akin to a 500 kilo anchor on them that has secondary imbalances which the mounts need to resist. If the mounts were too soft, the engine would bang against the hard stops of the mount so they're made stiffer to ensure that doesn't happen. So perhaps it is overkill to have vibration dampeners with an electric motor. But then again, there's a shock load that happens when you put the transmission in to gear. With cars you have a clutch which you can feather to reduce the shock and you also have rubber tires that eat some of that shock. With a boat you just slam it into gear and the propeller bites into the water. Do you need vibration damping mounts for that? I don't know. Probably not.
@modularhippo29 күн бұрын
Thank you for the in-depth response on this subject, it all makes sense. To dampen the shock load from torque (start) alone, I feel it must be worth having them. I rather this energy partially being absorbed by the rubber mounds, then being a direct load on motor and motor-housing. I have a feeling that it would work fine without and would be interesting to compare outcome from both scenarios. Maybe even higher frequency vibrations would cause some form of unwanted noise/vibration? I hope you did not mind thanking you in video, in hindsight I realised that maybe I should have asked you first:) Hope OK?
@Lagittaja29 күн бұрын
@@modularhippo Sure, the possible higher frequency vibrations could be annoying. Spin a drill and hold the drill's housing against a table. But those noises might be drowned out by the motor noises. Depends on the motor controller what it makes the motor sound like. But since you mentioned in an another comment that you will be using an Aquadrive CV then yeah the engine should be isolated as well. If you hard mount either one, eventually something will get misaligned and bearings will take a beating. Either hard mount everything and deal with the vibrations and having to perfectly align the engine to the prop shaft. Or soft mount everything. It's okay, this is a public platform after all and I made my comments on a public comments section.
@modularhippo29 күн бұрын
@Lagittaja - Nice one. Although more exspenses upfront, I feel soft mount is the way to go. Perfect allignmemt work in tight space when 6'3 is not a winner:)
@jimmylionstar416329 күн бұрын
Looks Amazing👍😉
@modularhippo29 күн бұрын
Thank You Mr Lionstar!! Currently in Scotland so will give you a call when back home next week. Hope all good your side:)😊
@patric001eede4Ай бұрын
Instead of the washers you could use some Loctite Threadlocker Red on the bolts that should be "permanent". To unfasten you will need a blowtorch and get it up to around 200-250C.
@modularhippo29 күн бұрын
Hi Patric - Thank you for comment. It points towards good old Locktite Threadlocker as makes perfect sense:)
@patric001eede429 күн бұрын
@@modularhippo No, thank you! You are actually building something i'm planning to build when it's time to replace the old diesel. So big thanks for all the ideas!! :)
@modularhippo29 күн бұрын
@patric001eede4 - No problem at all. If you can use any of the parts I have then let me know and I will send you any drawings I have. If you post on youtube then let me know as interesting to follow:)👍🏻
@armandbarbe1812Ай бұрын
Why does it look audiophile?
@modularhippoАй бұрын
Thank you for comment, not sure I follow when you say Audiophile:) Please expand:)
@modularhippoАй бұрын
Hi Jens, agree that combustion enginees rarely produce the HP they are rated to but instead far less. Tell me more about your setup as I am intrigued:) You got some interesting videos so you got yourself a new subscriber:)👍🏻
@JensOverbyАй бұрын
2 x 10kW, that will make you a speedboat wouldn't it?
@modularhippoАй бұрын
Hi Jens - I wish:) I believe 1 Kwh is equivalent to around 1.34 horsepower so are looking at around 26-27 Horsepower. Hopefully enough torque to propel me forward 3.5-5 knots in bad weather, happy with that:)
@JensOverbyАй бұрын
@@modularhippo My hypothesis is that sailboats with diesel engines are always overpowered, because the noise, vibrations and smoke at its maximum would make you think the engine is about to melt. I hope you can do with less - 10 kW 🙂 In the end YOU will have a good and responsive setup. Mine will not be as responsive, but should be able to cruise at 5 knots, and maybe 4 in bad weather. I would always use sails in bad weather though.
@jpl9148Ай бұрын
The link for the motors doesn't work. In anyone of the videos.
@modularhippoАй бұрын
Good Catch!! For some reason the URL's had been cut when copied and pasted the text. Now updated on all the related videos:) Address below if you want to check them out:) Thanks again!! www.goldenmotor.com/frame-bldcmotor.htm
@jpl9148Ай бұрын
@@modularhippo thanks
@Simonthewhite1Ай бұрын
Hi there from Australia, there's a guy here in West Australia that makes a 10kw marine drive, he's using 30mm wide toothed timing belts. They have less drag and are more efficient than vee belts. Here's a link to one of his videos kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2PNhKWFht2SiqMsi=4x-Oq6JRKQXBxiaQ I love your Vee configuration, I'm planning a 40kw V4 Great videos 👍👍
@TheOfficialReapsZАй бұрын
I have no clue but isn’t those belts way to small for the that motor torque/power?
@modularhippoАй бұрын
Hey - It has been pointed out and I may have underestimated the load on them. Luckily the plan is to replace them with a single, wider times belt (toothed) so when I come to pick that one I will make sure it can handle the load. Big Thank you for the feedback as the project depends on it (I am not an trained engineer as you might be able to tell):)
@kevinkurka8020Ай бұрын
@@modularhippo check out drive belts for motorcycles they would handle the torque
@modularhippoАй бұрын
@@kevinkurka8020 That Kevin is a brilliant idea. I will definitely check that out as make perfect sense:) Big thank you for pointing me in that direction. Enjoy your weekend!!
@ksochackiАй бұрын
11:35 That's not positive. That's negative that you need to connect to the controller, the other one (blue marked B-) is the one you need to connect to the main negative of the battery.
@modularhippoАй бұрын
Hi - Big thank you for feedback - Looking at the Daly diagram, it looks like Negative 'B' connects to Negative on battery, and Negative 'P' connects to Positive on Battery. Not had a chance to look at this properly and really happy you pointed it out as I now doubt myself and will do some bed time reading:) - To be continued:)
@ksochackiАй бұрын
@@modularhippo it says P- on the cable, meaning Power-. The idea of the bms is to disconnect the battery from the load. The only way it can do it is by disconnecting the B- (battery -) from the P - (Power -) which is the negative that goes to your controller, charger etc. Happy to help
@modularhippoАй бұрын
If you do not mind I would love drop you a message and sanity check any of the electrical BMS related stuff with you before adding load? Sounds like you know what you are talking about and can safely say at this point I do not:)
@ksochackiАй бұрын
@@modularhippo Sure, go ahead. One more thing that is quite important, once you start connecting balancing wires, make sure you unplug the other end from the Bms first. Solder/connect all wires and then before connecting it to the Bms, check that the order is right, so you have 0V, 3.6V, 7.2V, 10.8V and so on, connecting it in the wrong order can easily break the Bms.
@modularhippoАй бұрын
@@ksochacki Thanks - I have seen a couple of videos where people have connected the wrong balancing wire so have made a mental note of that one:) - Awesome, I will give you a shout before connecting any loads for a sanity check. Most appreciated!!
@RobertHamm-u7cАй бұрын
Just remove 3mm from your upper tensioner bolt brackets. That’ll get the tension bolts back in alignment. While you’re at it, add a couple of lockdown nuts to the tensioner bolts. Use thread locker to all of your mounting hardware to prevent everything from vibrating loose, and causing you more headaches.
@modularhippoАй бұрын
All really good feedback, thank you. I did get the 3 mm spacer brackets but still have a bit of miss alignment that I need to sort. Realised that the miss-alignment is not down to difference in width of the components but instead the upper bolt holes not being perfectly straight. Removing, instead of adding material is a very good point though so will definitely use that angle when looking at it again. This will require some more thought so this week I have instead focused on the anti-vibration feet & creating isolation bridge points for the 14S battery cells. Getting there slowly:) - Thanks for taking the time to feedback as appreciated!!
@ghoststevens5878Ай бұрын
you can do the same for cooling your batteries, they should be in a metal enclosure
@modularhippoАй бұрын
Will definetly need some form of cooling. Due to how they look I might put it in a metal framed glass box (perhaps with some neon lighting in it):) worh mentioning is that this is the secondary battery I am building more for fun. The actual primary batteries will be Li-Ion Phosphate:)
@BobbyHatton-j5fАй бұрын
Curious if you could mount a 12kw (power) and 10kw (regen) and create an all day runner with the addition of maybe 5kw of solar ?
@modularhippoАй бұрын
That is a very cool idea, would love to hook both up together and add an external power supply to see how much additional power you would need excatly to run it all at all.:)
@ghoststevens5878Ай бұрын
on the housing think about safety first, getting cooling air in and hot air out of the boat and they sell fire extinguishers that will blow at a set temp
@modularhippoАй бұрын
@ghoststevens5878 Not a bad idea. The motors and controllers are water cooled, but guess external air-conditioning is also needed, or you would just be pushing hot air around. Never thought of automated fire extinguisher, food for thought. Thank You:)
@ghoststevens5878Ай бұрын
for greasing the zerks go to your hardware store and get a compression fitting that fits in the hole and get some 1/8 inch waterline from a fridge for ice maker and then a compression fitting for the zerk and mount it any where you want. The KISS system
@modularhippoАй бұрын
@ghoststevens5878 Great idea and know exactly what you mean. Googled a similar solution not to long ago and there are ready made flexible extentions that can be bought of the shelf. As you say, a DIY version should work as well (and is probably also more affordable).
@ghoststevens5878Ай бұрын
I have failed a lot more than succeeded in the things I have designed, I use the KISS system as much as possible. If you want to bounce a idea off someone, I'll lend you a ear
@modularhippoАй бұрын
@ghoststevens5878 I would say that it is the absolute best way to learn:) - Nice one, will take you up on that as many decisions left to make before becoming something useful:) Done some progress on the battery pack so next episode is more focused on that. Hope to find some time for the housing soon.
@LordlindefАй бұрын
Whats the price pr el engine ?? And kW?
@modularhippoАй бұрын
Hi:) - The motors are 10Kwh each. Believe I paid around $600 per motor (and then the government will take a bit of import tax on top of that, how much is dependant of where you live). If you want exact figures then feel free to contact the Golden Motor sales contact (Hunter) I dealt with (great guy). You will find his details in the description. Any questions let me know:)
@ghoststevens5878Ай бұрын
you did a good job of that but it is way over complicated, your tension bolts are backwards. sorry that is not going to work, I would take the tensioners of and find three cogged pulleys in the size you need and look at the differant length cam belts for a car engine and have a welder weld the slots so the motors don"t move and then put a tensioner in between the motors pushing down on the belt. google 2 electric motors in a boat and you should be able to find pics of what I am talking about. good luck
@modularhippoАй бұрын
Big thank you for taking time to provide constructive feedback. Everything I design tend to be a bit overengineered and due to this some of the parts may need re-designing. I am so far down this design that I will need to see it to proof of concept. If I fail I will definitely try the more standard approach of using fixed motors and a belt tensioner instead. I have seen other designs similar to mine that seems to work fine so hopefully there is more than one way to crack an egg:) If not there is always plan 'B'. :)
@ghoststevens5878Ай бұрын
ribbed belts are just a little step up from a v belt
@ghoststevens5878Ай бұрын
use a cogged belt like on a super charged dragster,or the cam shaft belts on most cars. electric motors make a lot of torque like now
@modularhippoАй бұрын
Thank you for feedback. I have come to the conclusion that it is the way to go. I will most likely also go away from 2 belts and instead just use one belt. The V-belts and pulleys are not wasted though as will work well as 'backup' parts in case ever needed:)
@johanohrstedt93042 ай бұрын
Max power for a standard alternator v-belt is about 1,2 kW. With your motors you will have 8x the power to transfer. For high power applications there are better suited multi groove belts, 6-10 grooves depending on the power transfer needed.
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hi Johan, Happy Friday! Thank you for the feedback as must admit that I did not even think about that limitation. I have had allot of feedback around this part of the setup and one is to swap the dual pulley system for a single toothed (grooved) timing belt. Your feedback has hammered down my decision to do so even more and for which I am grateful. As I in a single configuration will have more space on the shafts it also allow me to work with a 'wider' belt that should take more load. I will definitely look at load strength now when advised of this before getting the new pulleys and belt. When you say 6-10 groves do you then refer to the minimum amount of groves (teeth) that you need as contact surface on pulley to ensure sufficient load distribution? Thanks again for help!
@BigT-dp5qd2 ай бұрын
So it doesn't come out faster than that?? I thought mine was broken but I guess not.
@henrikloman2 ай бұрын
Hey BigT-dp5qd - Mine was broken for years and the pump installed is third party so could potentially work a bit better with OEM parts:) Saying that, works OK from a usability point of view so guess all good:)
@SV_SheDevil2 ай бұрын
Love that somebody beat me to my design, been trying to get my boat to this point but have had a lot of issues with other parts of my life. Any chance you could send me the files for this part of the build and specs on your boat and electric motors? Also do you have a patreon account. So happy to finally found a great motor setup for dual motors. I am going use it a bit differently, though. I will only use one at a time as I will keep the other in standby. This way I will never be without a working motor. Thank you, for the video and I look forward to seeing the build to it's completion and testing.❤
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hi SC_Autumn - Thank you for the comment and happy to hear that you like the design. It is still in design mode so still a way to go before a proven concept but getting there:) The boat I am building the motor setup for is a 36', aluminium 8000 Kg displacement multi-chine (hull). If you email me on [email protected] I can send you what I got so far. I do not have a Patreon account but very kind of you to ask. Dual motors (one as a backup) sounds like a good plan. Hopefully as the motors are brush-less they should be pretty robust. I will keep an eye on my inbox. Thanks:)
@shaner.52 ай бұрын
LOCK-TIGHT!
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hi Shaner - Such an obvious and correct solution:) Need to stop overthinking some of the areas:) Thanks:)
@christopherbowersdresser41882 ай бұрын
really nice build man, keep up the great work! quick google search says each motor has 13.41 hp. do they combine to make 26.82 hp or is there a variance? now that im thinking about it, youve put a lot of time and money into building a 27hp powerplant. it is awesome, and the future of propulsion...but imo at this time illogical because of cost. i still love it. but a brand new mercury 30 hp motor with warranty is only about $3k. i assume you have more than 3k into your setup by the time you factor all of the parts and pieces to make it a complete system. i know eventually the solar charging will pay itself off, but roughly how long will that be? if i had to guess, several years. i wish the cost of the components would come down so this technology could be more widely implemented.
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Thanks Christopher for taking an interest and the kind comment - It is starting to take shape and will hopefully become something useful down the line:) I have had allot of feedback on improvements so will be some tweaks here and there as we go along (the power of crowd-sourcing):)
@antonygilbert96952 ай бұрын
There's a download link on your page, is this for the needed info to cut parts ourselves with instructions ? I'm all good paying for that precious info...
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hi Anthony - I am more than happy for you to use the plans for personal use, but would not feel comfortable if they are intended to be used for commercial use. If for personal use then you are more than welcome to have the CNC files for free. If commercial interest then please let's discuss further. Feel free to provide your contact details and I will email you.
@antonygilbert96952 ай бұрын
@@modularhippo Wow, I'm just a simple guy building his Catamaran for retirement :). I'm in Quebec, in Canada, wrote you on your website, I left you my email if you want to continue there ?? I am so excited, you work SO WELL !!! I will share you some pictures of my boat ! You will see very fast it's not commercial HAHAHAHA !
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
@@antonygilbert9695 Ha Ha - Sounds good, let me find the address and I will drop you an email:)
@antonygilbert96952 ай бұрын
Hello !!! I'm loking for the same type of setup... Would you be open to sell those ?
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hi Anthony - Thank you for showing an interest and for your comment. The setup is not really 'proven' as of yet as allot of the ideas are being amended and improved as we go along. There is also the water-cooling left to tackle. as well as other bits so let's see how it all comes out in the end:) The short answer is, not much of a product at this stage, but if it comes out well then happy to guide you on the process and share plans etc. Let's stay in contact:)
@antonygilbert96952 ай бұрын
@@modularhippo I'm building from scratch a Catamaran to live aboard, I'm pretty close to the point of buying an d installing motors, maybe I could help and share ideas too :) !!! I also have manny questions about how you're going to manage to run and control 2 motors on same shaft,,, One thing is sure, I'm going that direction too...
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
@@antonygilbert9695 That is amazing, a big project!!:) If a Catamaran I assume you want a motor and drive in each hull. by having different rotations on propellers each side you cancel out any prop walk and can also use the individual motors to also steer the boat. Please expand more on reason for using one prop shaft on Catamaran as not the norm?:)
@antonygilbert96952 ай бұрын
@@modularhippo I am anti diesel, can't repair them anyway... As it's for retirement, I want to be able to be safe and be able to fix everything. it's a 38feet Cat that will weight about 18000lbs, I have talked to Dave Parker here on youtube, thenn by email, he has a 44 feet 100% electric Cat, he's my inspiration... I will have 23 solar panels (8 already installed) and maybe a small generator for bad situations... As most people living on their bot are an anchor most of the time, I will be using all that power for a very confortable living... Also building my own dessalinator from plans people shared onn Facebook.. That may interest you too ???
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
@@antonygilbert9695 Sounds like you have an amazing project on the go there (very similar to mine). Are you sharing your project on KZbin, if so feel free to share link as would love to follow it:) I am planning to build a dessalinator so that is very much of interest. There is some good channels out there that show the main components needed and looks like a doable project. Will locate your email and drop you a line:)
@kenniesdead2 ай бұрын
I don’t know how accessible the grease nipples would be when everything’s assembled, but it might be beneficial to run extensions that bring them up/out. High up so they won’t be buried in the “engine” bay
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hey @keeniesdead - Thank you for feedback and a great idea. Great minds think alike:) - The cut out you can see in the front and rear plate just in line with the nipple was added there just in case I would need to extend it. As it stands the 45 degree nipple looks accessible BUT that can change drastically when the motor is actually in place in the engine bay as you indicate. That plus my bad back equals potential problems:) Maybe something like this (or even longer) to make it easy [locknlube.com/products/grease-fitting-relocation-kit]? - Definitely room for improvement. Big thank you for pointing it out as may have to give that one some more thought:)
@keyem45042 ай бұрын
Why don't you cut threads into the blocks for tightening the belts. So you could just use the screws to move the motors instead of this ball solution that honestly looks a little sketchy to me.
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hey Keyem4504 - Thank you for feedback. My first idea was to thread the lower blocks and to leave the upper block none-threaded. This would have pulled the motor up and kept the tension bolt static leading to the pulley eventually hitting the bolt. I guess what you are saying is to thread both upper and lower blocks so that bolt rises with the tension. I might just have to go that way (Thank You). I will most likely drop the ball idea as overkill and a potential failure point and try the same but instead with two lock-nuts at the bottom. If that is not sufficient I will try your idea (as will mean cutting two new lover blocks as the hole is now to big to cater for threads for the bolt size in place):) - Big thanks you for taking time to provide a better solution:)
@ovalwingnut2 ай бұрын
1st time viewer. I like your channel from the get go No Hype. Just good content with high production value :) Very COoL [and] sub-worthy I might add... And may I say I haven't seen that many "cells" since I was in a El Salvador prison This looks like a GR8T project so I'll pipe down and pay attention. Cheers from So.Ca.USA 3rd House On the Left (pls call before stopping by)
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hey Oval-Winfnut, ha ha, what a great message (thank you). Hope your time in El'Salvdor prison was not too tough:) Will stick to production format and will hopefully mout it all on a boat one day:) Tha ks for taking time to comment👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@ovalwingnut2 ай бұрын
@@modularhippo You R a gentleman and a scholar. And your "bike" is fine
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
@@ovalwingnut Ha Ha - Thank You!
@dougjones30572 ай бұрын
love the shirt! this project is awesome!!! when this thing hits the water don't forget to give us all the data, Speed, battery draw, rpm, propeller specs, battery voltage, system voltage, wire size, battery draw at 80% throttle and anything else you can think of (That's our crack). Ps you know how you always overthink everything? That is what might be going on with the little ball in the belt tensioner, I have an 81 Corvette that has some belts on it and there is no ball at the end of the tensioner bolts. food for thought, PLEASE keep us posted.
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hey Doug - Thank you for comment and for taking an interest in the project!! Ahhh, that t-shirt is magic, get so many comments and smiles from people when they see it:) - Sure, will make sure it is all shared as my best chance to get some great ideas and feedback from people like yourself (nothing beats crowd-sourcing):) - In relation to the ball solution, yep definitely an over-tinker idea. @carlbeaver7112 - mentioned to just use two jam nuts instead to achieve the same outcome so will give that a go:) To be continued:) Thanks again!
@carlbeaver71122 ай бұрын
Loctite 271 instead of lock washers. Also, Nyloc nuts are a one time (maybe twice, if you're lucky) use fastener. They are great for what they do but each time they are loosed/tightened they give up a lot of their abilities. Sort of surprised you didn't use a single belt with a spring-loaded tensioner, would have been simpler and probably cheaper and no re-tensioning required. If you're sticking with the v-belt setup take a motor with you when you have you machinist gouge the keyway. If you don't and there ends up being an aberration it's on you instead of him. Thread the adjustment blocks and use a jam nut on the screws to set them. You're making things difficult with the balls. Again, a spring tensioner/single belt would have been so much easier.
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hi Carl - Thank you for reminding me of the good old Loctite 271, so much better than the initial lock washer idea:) - Using one single belt is a brilliant idea and will also solve my initial issue where I could not find a timed (tooted) double grooved pulley that was small enough to align two belts. With one belt I should be able to use times (tooted) pulleys instead which will reduce need for manual tension significantly. With that setup, and regular maintenance checks (which I would do anyways) I think I would be good even without a spring loaded tensioner (saying that, will still give that some though as if easy to incorporate to the existing design then worth doing). In relation to the adjustment blocks. The upper blocks are threaded and instead of the balls at end of bolts (as you say) I could just put two jam nuts at the bottom. Tightened they should stay in place. Not sure about threading the bottom blocks as when I tension the bolts the motor shaft moves vertically upwards as the bolt is fixed and eventually the bolt hits the pulley. But simply using two jam nuts is not a bad idea at all (Thank You). The machinist is a friend of mine so in this scenario any aberrations would have to be owned by me, saying that, taking the motor with me for peace of mind is not a bad idea anyways. Big thank you for great feedback and ideas:)
@zv30002 ай бұрын
IF you have not done so already , can i suggest Get ride of the double grove pulley on the output shaft get rid of the two separate belts replace both with a single belt and single groove pulley for the out put shaft and then in the space more or less where the belts cross eachother just below the inner set of bolts holding the motors to the main face plate add an idler pulley . TOGETHER with your belt tension system you have ALREADY designed , This would be a much easier way to do things and get the same result if you have a concern about belt slipping use a toothed belt . Lesss parts and i feel like it would be a lot easier on maintenance to have one belt to change rather than the two because you could run into the issue as the belts stretch as they wear in they could end up contacting each other making them wear faster and failing . As it is you might have one motor to get back home but i'm not sure how much a single motor is going to propel your 36 foot sailing boat . If you have a situation where you get stuck with only one motor and one is not enough to get you home you might as well not have either , If you know what i mean ? This is only my thoughts . Apart from that i just randomly found your channel and i am not HOOKED !
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hi ZV3000 - Thank you for allot really great ideas and food for thought. Feel silly for admitting it but a sing a single grove pulley on prop shaft did not even cross my mind. Maybe because I was influenced by some of the professional solutions I have seen on the market tend to us two separate pulley belts when using two motors. The irony is that I did not go for timed (tooted) belts as I could not find a configuration where a double grove pulley would fit and align with the single pulleys (did not have enough space on shafts). With one belt that issue has resolved itself. I believe that in the right conditions I can power the boat on one motor but nothing stops me from carrying a smaller belt for emergency so in case one motor fails I can still fit the shorter belt against one motor anyways. I am not familiar with idler pulleys so will read up on that in conjunction with the ideas you have. Big thank you for taking an interest and more so for taking the time to share the improvements😊
@arnel95642 ай бұрын
next video please....
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hey Arnel - Thank you for comment:) In relation to the battery packs, what I am working on next is some of the cabling and isolator points. Allot of the parts are easiest done with 3D printer so need to get one ASAP so that I can start printing:) Hopefully not to long before next episode:) Thanks:)
@ovalwingnut2 ай бұрын
"The difficult we do right away. The impossible takes a bit longer". No pressure... You RoCk Arnel
@arnel95642 ай бұрын
@modularhippo please go on. I am pretty excited about your project.
@arnel95642 ай бұрын
@ovalwingnut oh yeah, I am so excited.
@Shmade03042 ай бұрын
Ya love to see people still using li ion batteries still keep building …looking great 🔋🔋🙌🏾
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Something magic about the little 18650s and with then still used in abundance it is hard to keep my hands of them😂 Li-Ion does not have the best reputation or track record but makes it more of a challange:) Part of what I am doing is for my own development (learning my doing) so thought a good staring point:)👍🏻
@WingingItBoatingonaBudget2 ай бұрын
Loving the content and how it’s coming together. Would some thread lock on those bolts save the need of using the spring washers?
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
@WingingItBoatingonaBudget Not a bad idea at all:) Thank you very much as will give me the 10mm grip I need and making sure they do not loosen during vibrations. How is the pai ting coming along?:)
@WingingItBoatingonaBudget2 ай бұрын
@@modularhippo the painting is ‘on hold’ at the moment. Last couple of weeks we’ve been heading to our home mooring, so will continue with the painting and ‘other’ jobs once we are there. Looking forward to next instalment of your project. 👍
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
@@WingingItBoatingonaBudget Guess a bit weather dependant as well:) With boating being a never ending maintenance game I am sure you find things to maintain/improve inside when the weather turns bad:)
@PeterKzSwe2 ай бұрын
Nice concept! How important will it be to align the rpm of the motors?
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hi Peter - Thank you for your question and glad you like it. Personally I would like to avoid energy waste/loss which could occur if one motor have to slightly drag the other. I do not think small discrepancies would harm the components but could potentially effect life expectancy unevenly. The motors/motor controllers comes with an app that shows the RPM and also allow me to adjust it. I also plan to add an external RMP counter (magnet based) on each shaft and use the feedback from the two to make sure that they have the same output. The motor controllers are controlled by the same potentiometer so if the power is distributed evenly and the RPM match after tweak then I think we are good:)
@givetanks2 ай бұрын
you should power coat the whole thing and add another layer of protection
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Hey - Thank you for the feedback:) I have played with the idea as it would not only add extra protection but would also aesthetically look better in my eyes (some prefer the raw clean metallic look). The reason I have not yet committed to it is that the 8 x sliding bolts that goes through the rare plate and holds the sliding motor rings are designed for exactly 10mm thick plate they go in to. If adding layers of paint they will be to tight and no longer work for sliding the rings. I guess I could tape (cover) those areas before coat and coat the rest) or have new bolts made to compensate for this but leaving that decision towards the end. I have had allot of old motorcycle frames power-coated in the past and love the result, saying that boat people have advised me that normal paint in marine environment is preferred over standard powder-coating for longevity (not sure if true or not so would have to look deeper into that one). I will definitely give it some consideration:)
@TheDigitalMermaid2 ай бұрын
The threaded bolt to tension the belt is a brilliant approach.
@modularhippo2 ай бұрын
Thank You :) - My hope is that it will work but will not know until the final parts are in place. There is a chance that the sliders will lock them-self and refuse to move freely (a bit like an old drawer if not pulled out perfectly straight). With contact points being metal to metal my hope is that it is not the case but as you know yourself what starts as a good idea in theory is not always working out:)