Here you are wrong… Calibrating a hygrometer with salt, specifically using a saturated salt solution, is a common method, but it has its limitations. Here are some reasons why it might not be accurate: 1. **Environmental Variations**: Temperature and air pressure can influence the humidity level, which can affect the calibration process. 2. Volume of container matters, the smaller the better as there might not be enough time to saturate the air inside if volume of it is too big. In order for this to work somewhat accurate you need to have the temperature at around 25 Celsius. There is a reason why airports give humidity readings with temperature/dew point not relative humidity. The reason is because as air gets hotter it can contain more water vapour before it becomes saturated (100%). If it is colder the air gets denser and cannot hold as much vapour as there is no room for water molecules. So in order for you to have an accurate reading you need your temp to be 76F or 25C. You cant control pressure but using only temp will get you close enough. Watch a video on relative humidity vs dew point and you will get the picture.
@IvanRossS3 ай бұрын
Surprisingly nobody talking about temperature it's super important to have a temperature... make sure when you do humidity test your environment supposed to be 70%
@philwilliams83285 ай бұрын
It's not pronounced hyDROmeter! *hy GRO meter*
@CodeWithRains7 ай бұрын
do not fall , it will kill the LCD and Zebra connector
@Walking_on_Chips Жыл бұрын
Here are my finding on the subject of humidity. Humidity is directly affected by temperature. Ever notice when its cold out you have a higher humidity reading versus when its warm/hot the humidity is lower? When it is hot there is less moisture in the air. When its cold more moisture. I have played the game of chasing dialing in hygrometers. IMHO its a waste of time. Buy Boveda packs with the humidity % you want, and call it done. Even Boveda states on the back of their 10 pack of 60g, 65% packs the range is 60-69%.
@13panda13 Жыл бұрын
So why would I waste money on bodeva then, if they are also inaccurate.
@billthebert17602 ай бұрын
> "When it is hot there is less moisture in the air. When its cold more moisture." I don't believe this is an accurate statement. When it is hot, the air is CAPABLE of holding more moisture, so the relative humidity APPEARS to drop, even with the same ABSOLUTE amount of moisture in the air. And vice versa: Cooler air is incapable of holding as much water vapor, so the same absolute amount of moisture in the air represents a higher percentage of its capacity.
@michaelzastenchik2881 Жыл бұрын
Bro Tupperware would’ve been fine in a closet
@Dr._Spamy Жыл бұрын
middle button, 75%, doesn't seem to do anything... Are there really Digital Hygrometer that ment to be callibratet at all !?
@vetrivelrajeswari74982 жыл бұрын
1.11.....normal salt.
@tucosalamanca70372 жыл бұрын
This works with pretzel salt
@mtkkuluckaTuncay2 жыл бұрын
Merhaba Mükemmel Uygulama Aynı Formülü Kullanmaktayım..
@Nostromo_12 жыл бұрын
Use distilled water
@richardcabello50282 жыл бұрын
Lol, other videos say 8-12 hours!
@liudmilaantropova37733 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why mine isn’t working. The humidity keeps dropping every time I put it in the ziplock bag. Like wtf? I take it out and it says 65… I put it in the bag with the salt and it drops to 54…
@Mickimoss3 жыл бұрын
1:37 so salt in the container will make the humidity in it exactly 75%, and we compare it with the actual reading on the hygrometer, and since it shows 71%, does that mean we have to offset it with +4% ?
@theultimatetime80292 жыл бұрын
But humidity is also affected by temps so how can be this create a good logic
@1v4n272 жыл бұрын
@@theultimatetime8029 Temp. 19-21°C
@abudankmeme14772 жыл бұрын
same i cant adjust
@zaca911 Жыл бұрын
@@theultimatetime8029 while different temps hold a different volume of water. It doesn't matter at which temp you calibrate at as when you're calibrating it does so while the temp is static. by your logic a calibrated humidity meter would have to be set at the current temp to read properly. That would suck lol
@Mercento3 жыл бұрын
Warning! A better way: fill the tub with thin layer of water, add enough salt so that no more salt dissolves, then add still somemore salt. Use the cap as a platform and put your hygrometer on it. If you fill the cap with salt and water, there is just no enough surface area for equilibrium to be reached after 24 hrs.
@JuanManuel-kj9fu4 жыл бұрын
i did that and it stoped at 60% after 24hs, after that i place in a tupperware with a small container full of just hot water and it went to 69% after a few hours, could i ve got a faulty hygrometer ? very strange that i cant get it to pass 70%
@vittocincotta43104 жыл бұрын
useless
@PlanktoniusRex4 жыл бұрын
Hi Grow Meter....LMAO
@lolwut1234567894 жыл бұрын
"in 2019, this list helped me decide for the best humidity monitor *scafe.shop/tbhm2019?nZ* hope it helps you out too!"
@kerry_yeieh165 жыл бұрын
don't the digital hygrometers come calibrated already
@XoxJasonReynoldsxoX2 жыл бұрын
Are you new? Have you ever owned a Chinese product before? Half the time they can't even sell a functioning product brand new out of the box.
@wayneclark66245 жыл бұрын
Is this traceable to NIST???
@DeepSouthernTX5 жыл бұрын
Why can't you have free standing water on top? I believe as long as there's undissolved salt at the bottom humidity equilibrium will be reached
@marineman22985 жыл бұрын
Because it says so on the internet and the internet is never wrong. For pete's sake man, don't you know anything?
@henley7775 жыл бұрын
how much space can one bottle cap with salt "cover"? What should be the volume of the zip bag or container?
@JustinS065 ай бұрын
For those that see this in the future, it doesn't matter. The amount of salt doesn't need to be accurate nor does the size of the container. Just do something similar to whats shown in the video, no need for precise measurements as it should always result in 75%
@micheloliveira67186 жыл бұрын
Learn to spell your own language, mr. cigar man
@bastienroy92207 жыл бұрын
will it work with sea salt?
@SilencedByYoutube3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@worcesterexchange5547 жыл бұрын
What sort of accuracy for humidity is required for cigars?
@worcesterexchange5547 жыл бұрын
For information the salt solution should have some liquid solution on top of the salt. This will be a saturated salt solution and will adsorb moisture if the atmospheric relative humidity is above 75%.
@marineman22985 жыл бұрын
Which goes against every other instruction I have ever read or seen on how to do this. Not saying you are incorrect. Only that you are the Lone Ranger on this.
@eri-dug81437 жыл бұрын
For those that asked why this works, and how to get more accuracy: In pure water the molecules, energized by their temperature, jump into the air until the rate at which they jump into the air (fighting against their Van der Waals attraction to the other water molecules in the liquid phase) and fall back into the liquid are equal, which depends on the density of water molecules in the air. (The more water molecules in the air the more likely they will hit the water and stick. That rate has to equal the rate of leaping off.) That fixes the relative humidity, for pure water that is 100% RH. The water molecules in the salt paste are bound by much stronger Van der Waals forces to the salt molecules. It is harder for them to leap into the air. Lower density of water molecules in the liquid phase balances the rate at which they leap into the air (due to thermal energy fluctuations). if there is a higher density of water molecules in the air then they will land more than they leap until the two rates are equal, and similarly if there is less than the equilibrium value. If you wait long enough, and it may take a while since the surface area of the paste is very small compared to the size of the container, the RH will reach the equilibrium value determined by the degree of binding of the water molecules to that particular salt at that temperature (and perhaps pressure.) For each type of salt the molecular binding / Van der Walls force is different and that causes a different relative humidity (at the same temperature). There may be other forces involved than Van der Waals. Some water molecules are probably bound by strong dative / covalent bonds to some salts (even some dry salts have water molecules in their crystals), but in a paste others may be glued by Van der Waals. My guess would be only the weaker bound water molecules contribute to the RH. For example MgCl salt gives about 33.3% RH and Na,2Cr20 gives about 55% RH at room temperature. NaCl is just over 75.5%. (pure water = 100% RH, desiccators could give 0% RH). It would make sense if you can only calibrate one value to pick one near the desired RH. nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/jres/53/jresv53n1p19_a1b.pdf What I do is use several references and put marks on less expensive analog meters to show the correct values. For digital meters that don't calibrate, or if you want accurate values over a larger range, you can make a table of the true readings vs. the nominal readings. If you want high accuracy, the reading can change quickly when you open the bag. For analog meters you can remember where to put the mark. For digital meters you can hit the buttons through a flexible bag. I have read in some places that you should not calibrate some digital meters. However I don't think digital meters with calibration work differently than ones that don't have built in calibration, and I can't imagine how it could harm a digital meter to stick it in a bag with known RH.
@bastienroy92207 жыл бұрын
will it work with salt water instead of table salt
@eri-dug81437 жыл бұрын
No. For the NaCl or other salt to work the water has to be tightly bound to the salt. That means there can be no clear liquid floating on top. You want a wet white paste, wet salt, not salt water. Also for the most accuracy you want pure NaCl (or whatever salt you are using). This means not sea salt, and better without Iodine added (although I don't know if that will make a serious difference). Distilled water in theory is better; I don't know how much difference hard water will make, probably not much. A plastic baggy and some pure table salt are so cheap this is essentially a free way to do the calibration.
@eri-dug81437 жыл бұрын
No. You don't even want liquid water floating above the wet salt. You want a white salt paste, damp salt rather than liquid water. This is because the water molecules have to be tightly bound to the salt.
@MagPencho2 ай бұрын
A very good explanation but you are missing a point: Temperature and pressure matter a great deal when you are calibrating. Air retains different amount of water vapour at different temps and pressures. The best temperature to calibrate a hygrometer using the saturated salt solution method is around **25°C (77°F)**. This temperature is often recommended because it is a standard reference point for many hygrometers, and the expected relative humidity for a saturated sodium chloride solution at this temperature is well-documented and relatively stable. You cant control pressure but you can control temperature. Anyway if you want to be super accurate you should monitor daily pressure and calibrate your hygrometer when it is 1013.25hpa outside and you can get the temp to 25C. That would be ideal, but who has time for that 😅
@eri-dug81437 жыл бұрын
According to this US government study, from 15 deg C to 42 deg C it's closer to 75.5% or higher, with a max of 75.8% at 25 deg C. From 20 - 35 deg C (covering most room temperatures) it would be more accurate to set 76% if you can't do tenths. I know this makes absolutely no difference for this particular application, but for anyone wanting more accuracy: nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/jres/53/jresv53n1p19_a1b.pdf
@rogermorse_8 жыл бұрын
I'm ignorant. Why does this method give exactly 75% of humidity, not less, not more ?
@rogermorse_8 жыл бұрын
this doesn't answer my question....i asked *why* it gives 75%. Also how influent is the quantity of salt (or of water) so let's say salt/water ratio how much does it influence the actual humidity value?
@eri-dug81437 жыл бұрын
The water binds to the salt electrostatically more than to other water molecules, so it sticks more to the paste then to pure water, which means less water leaps into the air to humidify it then if the cap had pure water (100% RH). I wrote a more detailed explanation in a comment above "For those that asked why this works"
@wadepatton24338 жыл бұрын
HY GROM EAT ERR
@tilberry198 жыл бұрын
can i use this test with analog hygro???
@SilencedByYoutube3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mettlemane9 жыл бұрын
I have two xikar non adjustable hygrometers. I did a standard salt test on them,and they were off. I called xikar,and they said the standard standard salt test was wrong.
@matyoka9 жыл бұрын
metalshaper Salt test is necessary at least once a year for the Digital... Xikar employs idiots or you didn't call them. This calibration method is straight from Xikar... xikar.com/files/salt_test_instructions.pdf
@jpnoll17819 жыл бұрын
my instruction manual tells me to take my brain out before calibration :O
@marineman22985 жыл бұрын
Well, that will obviously be impossible for you.
@eduyncastro616510 жыл бұрын
It is best to wait between 4 to 24 hours.
@eduyncastro616510 жыл бұрын
Good Fellas Cigars, you had a pronounciation error on the word "hygrometer". You said the humidity was around 82%. You turned right to make it read 75%. Turning left will bring the humidity up, for example let's say the humidity was 66%. You turn left. Pronounciation error: "hy-gro-mee-ter". Correct pronounciation: "hy-groh-meter".
@eduyncastro616510 жыл бұрын
Good Fellas Cigars, you didn't pronounce the word "hygrometer" correctly. You also forgot to press the "Calibrate" button on your hygrometer. It read 71%! Pronounce it like this: "hy-groh-meter". Not like this: "hy-gro-mee-ter"! :)
@dontgettoknowm98646 ай бұрын
You obviously have horrible need to be right. Both pronunciations are correct. Have you ever talked to an English person? They say things differently. English is very flexible. Don’t be a jerk.
@aminghaderpanah970410 жыл бұрын
thank you for the information but my hygrometer is too big can i use big sealed container 30x20x20 cm if yes for this container i have to use only cap amount salt and water? or i have to get jar head to fill with water and salt?
@nokia3210fuck10 жыл бұрын
That's not how you do it. You put the analog Hygrometer into a wet cloth and leave it there for 1 hour. Now the hygrometer is supposed to show 100 % humidity obviously. If not, adjust it to 100%. And that's it.
@populousmass10 жыл бұрын
Hi-grom-iter :)
@tabbithasmith37166 жыл бұрын
yuurr-knot-speshall
@13panda13 Жыл бұрын
@@tabbithasmith3716KZbin-support-sux- balls
@Scarface762911 жыл бұрын
If I have a Hygrometer that has 3 buttons 1) C/F (Celsius &Fahrenheit) 2) Min/Max 3) Reset what would I press after 24 hours in the container with the salt paste?
@Christian.B.Martin3 жыл бұрын
Is there one that says retard ?
@spikesecho7243 жыл бұрын
@@Christian.B.Martin You're a douchbag
@XoxJasonReynoldsxoX2 жыл бұрын
@@Christian.B.Martin Come back when you are grown up speed racer; or should I say Burnie Rubber? Don't you have a piece of toast in the shape of Dale Earnhardt's face to be praying to?
@DanBrooking11 жыл бұрын
OK three easy questions. 1) In the first step for the base reading, do you close the humidor or leave it open for those 10 minutes? 2) By my count, there are 4 bead tubes used in this process? Two on the bottom level, two on the top? 3) In reading the comments, it's unclear if I'm supposed to hydrate the first two bead tubes? You explicitly mention that on the ones on the top but not for the ones on the bottom. Other than that, great video, been looking for something like this - thanks!
@mozkitolife543711 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like starting up smoking now? Is this the hygrometer that most dentists use?
@AKbarEltoago11 жыл бұрын
okay , thanks anyway missle :)
@missle2511 жыл бұрын
send it back! if you we're talking about maybe a 3%-4% difference then I wouldnt care, but that much difference? Somethings bad with your Hygro! Happens every day!
@AKbarEltoago11 жыл бұрын
there is no button to calibrate in my digital hygrometer.. Iam also have do the "salt test" before , and the results was 99% RH... so what can i do man?