Емиције не лажу. Треба бити искрен емициинално интелигентан и спознати "име и презиме" емиције јер само тако можемо спознати одакле и због чега настају. Ти је истина која је лековита и само нас она може излечити. То важи за појединца, за поридицу, радни колектив и за народ у целини. Тај принцип важи на свим нивоима и то је оно што господин Тошић с правом истиче. Треба само пронаћи оваквог психотерапеута као пто је Марјан.

Обухватили сте сва питања која постоје између психотерапеута и клијента. То потврђује да сте Ви принашли професионалну и људску меру односа клијент-психотерапеут. Нусам читао Вапу књигу Исцељујућа моћ емоција и не могу да претпоставим шта се крије иза тиг наслова. Како каже прифесор Милан Милић - Емоције не лажу. Интересује ме да ли сарађујете Ви и професор Милић. Прочитао сам његових шест књига и читам их поново. Није дивољно прочитати, треба разумети (то сам учинии), али треба то усвијити и применити. Надам се да ћу и Вашу књигу набавити. Из ових некилико видеа које сам одгледао, нема сумње да сте врло искусан психотерапеут. Чуди ме мали број прегледа и да нисте пизнати пириј јавности. Штета. Имате шта да кажете.

Доста честа појава у друштвеним наукама, али и у техничким, да се нешто открије тако што се уоче само дибре стране тога, али не и све негативне стране. А још горе је кад то почну да примењују неквалитетни, нестручни и некреативни људи. Примера има сијасет, од обичниг производа до друштвених феномена. Зар се не срећемо с оојавим да се неки ниви лек глорификује а онда се зљбрани његова употреба. Или, ми самоуправу претворимо у самоуправљање па онда у само управљање и то накарадно, да бисмо сад опет стигли скоро до диктатуре једниг човека.

Први пут слушам Марјана Тошића. Једина моја примедба је мала јачина звука, али предавање је изванредно. Кад неки принцип треба да проверимо онда треба да гледамо да ли он важи за сваког појединца, групу па и народ. Тошић је то изванредно објаснио и практично показао како настаје и како се мења идентитет од појединца до народа. Било би добро да једну (или неколико) предавања посветите идентитету српскиг народа. Било би добро да држава Србија финансира и помогне такав пријекат на мултидисциплинарном нивоу.

Ali nije mi jasna teza psihologa i ostalih učenih ljudi budi pošten nemoj krasti nemoj koristiti političke veze a naši najbogatiji ljudi su takvi, moje lično mišljenje da se nemože biti najbogatiji u Srbiji kao pošten čovjek

Sta kaze Pierre Janet na to ? Svi su ga zaboravili a takav vazan doprinos dao po ovim pitanjima.

Hvala od ❤❤❤. Tako lepo objasnjeno. Za mene velika uteha. Veliki pozdrav.

Porodica je deo šireg sistema,osnovna ćelija društva kroz koju se prelamaju društveni odnosi bazirani na kulturnim vrednostima konkretnog društva koji mogu biti autoritarni ili zasnovani na dijalogu i toleranciji.Porodica,šire formalne i neformalne grupe kao ni konkretni pojedinci ne žive u društvenom vakuumu.Ostalo je tačno.

Good. Thanks. Do you have a video to practice on our own?

Gr8 insights ❤❤❤

Znači da uklonim "roditelje" ?!

Аууу, колико врста - па ја сам онда 300 % болестан 🤷🏼‍♂️. Ту нема спаса 🤦🏻😂

Eee moj doktore udala sam se mlada 23g u braku Oda sm se razvela 2020g oda sam pošla na dijalizu2026g 5 puta operisana e onda nastaje pakao dve sestre preminu onda brat pa kad je bila Korona još dva brata.I vi meni recite kako da mi pomognete...

Un long travail de reconstruction, qui fonctionne à merveille, on se retrouvent en totalité, on retrouvent tous ces sentiments, j’adore les retrouvés, j’adore me retrouver, je n’imagine pas la vie sans qui je suis , reellement, la vie n’a vraiment aucuns intérêts sinon..j’y parviens,ce n’est pas évident, mais c’est du concret , je redeviens moi , pas à pas..

I thought by this video we would get to the actual technique.

This is so beautifully said. I really appreciate it, as a person who has been into primal for 30 years. Your point about Janov the internal support is so true. People wonder why his therapy wasn’t accepted but how could it be? A good therapist would realize the importance of what was missing. The first principle of medicine is do no harm and how can a person be safe if they’re not supported internally? I’m extremely grateful to Janov for explaining to me the nature of deep, cathartic feeling work. At one point I had 11 of his books. The term abreaction, in the definition that I read on the Internet, is to me the same exactly as primal. Janov gave it his own definition as fake feeling, and of course it is very important to point out, as you described, because feeling can be healing or not healing, Integrating or disintegrating. But others have pointed that out too. I also feel that this was a mistake that he made. In doing that, he separated himself from those who do real feeling work, and they certainly exist. I have several friends who do profound primal work and they’ve never heard of primal therapy. They organically recognize what a true primal is, and they’ve done it for years. I only briefly scanned this long article I linked below but I have read a book by the same author called “the haunted self, structural dissociation and the healing of chronic traumatization”. They use feeling work, and that is the central part of the therapy. However, they go into extensive detail about the other aspects of trauma and how to support someone from within. The article is called abreaction reevaluated and he uses the term abreaction as real feeling not fake feeling. And some people who dissociated at an early age actually missed all their emotional developmental stages. They arrived in adulthood barely able to function. I know a lot about this myself. Therefore it takes many years, even decades of careful foundation building, in order to have enough foundation in reality to have a place to stand and witness what happened. And I think that deeper and deeper layers of feeling come up over the years, over a lifetime really, and then we alternate building a stronger self, and going into deeper layers of pain. It’s like a spiral, and that alternation can happen even during one day. I appreciate your great depth of understanding, and I’m glad you are helping people as a therapist, and putting out this message. ❤️Elaine scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/1652/Diss_5_3_2_OCR.pdf?sequence=1 😊

So wonderful to have found you and Dr Janov thank you

Yes, the internal support system must be there. Some people need to develop it before they can access deep feelings without becoming dis-regulated.

Kao psiholog koje je Vaše mišljenje o zloupotrebi marihuane ja kao mladom čoveku je to jako nepoznata tema ne znam ništa, ne znam je li marihuana zdrava biljka ili opasna biljka Lp

Усиљено плакање засновано на самосажаљењу, на лажном егу који оплакује себе је бескорисно, заваравајуће и често штетно. Оно је прерушени облик самоважности лажног ега, који себе тако ојачава. Плакање које је израз повезивања са неиживљеном траумом која у себи носи и тугу је исцељујуће, разграђује лажни его. Плакање које није рођено из повезивања са конкретним непроживљеним трауматичним осећајем је суптилан начин да се особа сакрије иза таквог плакања од изворног осећаја и изгуби у тако произведној бури и вреви

Izvrsna, izvrsna tri videa. Hvala vam na ovome. Vrlo jasno i jezgrovito što je to terapija koja donosi rezultate i daje život konačno ispunjen duševnim mirom i radošću...

An excellent lecture. Thank you. Primal therapy really rocks the essence of a person and that is what is needed in order to be healed and whole again - feeling and proactively leading your life. And not just react to triggers constantly.

Imam problem sa aneksioznoscu, strah od zaposlenja, strah od obaveza, strah od mnogo ljudi...da cu reci nesto glupo...

Kratko i stručno objašnjeno Hvala i Vama !

Poštovani profesore, hvala Vam od ❤. Vaša knjiga "Isceljujuća moć emocija" je bio divan znak na mom putu iscjeljenje. Divan početak jednog divnog putovanja ❤

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I love what you have laid out here in your presentation. I had some kind of awakening when I read Janov's book 'Prisoner's of Pain'. The only issue I had with Janov's ideas was his pushing of 'Primal Therapy' as such. I have undertaken personal healing using various processes, including holotropic breathwork. I think there are many processes which help heal deepchildhood woundedness. But I love, love, love the way Janov lays out the causations of emotional suffering, and it's links to 'unfelt' grief, anger, sadness etc from childhood. I agree too with what you have to say about triggers, taking you away from the here and now. I think it is tragic that Janov's work has been so discredited. But for me, while he might have been better to have taken things more slowly with his clients, there are principles for dealing with childhood trauma, that he extensively wrote, which are remarkable.

Jedno pitanje .Fizicka aktivnost koliko.pomaze kod anksioznosti i straha .Hvala unapred

I have found these responses are unresolved stress that has not been neutralised in the neuromuscular body. I have developed a physical therapy that deletes the response therefore releasing the reaction in the physical body-"the feeling". When we feel at peace there is no problem. Disease is the accumulation of distress until the body is neutralised by death . R.I.P. (ripped off by the system hard driving you to death)

Sjajni ste doktore.

99% all modern psychotherapy doesn't work. It only works primal therapy. It's the 8th wonder of the world, a must-do for everyone.

This was excellent, thank you for explaining that another component of the healing process is activated by experiencing the "need" behind the pain. Very useful insightful and useful.

Sto duze to bolje, nekad to moze biti i beskonacno dugo. Jednostavno, ne nazire se kraj, redovno se placaju seanse, a klijent nema nikakav osecaj da ce se ikada nesto promeniti ili zavrsiti i mislice da je sve to normalno 😀

Hvala!😍

Snaga je deo funkcije mašte, a slabost 😢 je deo ne vraćanje u prošlost!!!💔😭

Najlakse se ankcioznost leci, tako sto se promeni krug ljudi i sredina, nego budalama to ne moze da se dokaze.

Finally, I think that Kim Eng well compare the relationship between the self-realization that Eckhart Tolle talks about and the "Primal therapy" of Arthur Janov in the video called "The Pain Body: The Hidden Secret Behind Self Realization". kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2ixZaaKaKl0eJY There she defines the pain body as: "The pain body is an accumulation of old, unprocessed emotional wounds". And that, I would say, best corresponds to what Janov calls the 'reservoir of primal pain' - i.e. : "Every time a child is not held when he needs it, every time he is silenced, laughed at, neglected, or made to do something beyond his ability, more burden will be added to his reservoir of hurt. This reservoir I call it the primal reservoir. Every addition to that reservoir makes the child even more unreal and neurotic." "This idea of a reservoir of pain that exists in the neurotic is more than a simple metaphor - often the primal patients themselves tell us about it in one way or another (how they carry a septic tank of injury)..." "The primal process is the systematic draining of the reservoir of pain. When the tank is empty, I consider the person to be real, to be healthy." ... and so on...

Dobri su vasi prilozi, samo nastavite dalje. Nebi bilo lose napraviti nesto o snovima.

It should be noted that Eckhart Tolle came to his realization only when he was on the verge of suicide - that is, under enormous pressure, on the verge of life and death!!! It was similar with Michael Brown, the author of "The Presence Process" - he had terrible pains from some kind of neuralgia (Horton's syndrome) for which there was no cure, which brought him to the brink of madness... the doctors told him that there was the danger of either becoming a drug addict or committing suicide, since the pain was daily and unbearable for 10 years... So he also came to his discovery under enormous pressure on the edge of life and death... Also Lester Levenson discovered the Sedona Method , after the second heart attack, after he was practically sent home from the hospital - to die, he was in such a bad condition (he was 42 at the time), and he, also, discovered the method under such tremendous pressure. It is not easy thing! As far as I know, the vast majority of those who INDEPENDENTLY (on their own) came to connect with their primal pain, did so under enormous pressure from the circumstances of their lives. In traditional systems, the necessary pressure or detour around resistance and defenses is provided by the teacher (in therapy, an experienced therapist). Even Janov at first practically forced the client into the primal, skipping the step-by-step approach, until he invented more subtle methods to bypass the resistance, to somehow induce or "trick" the client into entering the primal. All of these methods are effective on the condition that the client reaches his primal pain and experiences it fully - which is not pleasant for anyone and no one is happy to do something like that, no matter how well they know the theory. If this does not happen, if the client does not reach his primal pain and does not fully experience it, - then we are just wasted time and effort that does not bear fruit (not that everyone who tries, even with the help of others, succeeds) and it boils down to to theoretical and philosophical stories. The main thing is gradualness, the layers of trauma must be removed, gradually, as they were created. The most problematic and most charged events are usually events with parents from early childhood, the rest is preparation for that.

Janov is a true treasure for deluded humanity, unfortunately unrecognized and not appreciated nearly as much as he deserves with his primal therapy.

Edipov kompleks( jako nepijateljstvo i mrznja prema rivalu ocui njezna ili seksualna privrzenost prema majci) 1. Veliko je pitanje dali je seksualni motiv odnos prema majci ili samo njeznost, ljubav.( Adler, Jung, Fromm..itd). Seksualnist sina prema majci i ako postoji je proizvod njenog histeroformnog zavodjenja i osvetoljubiv odnos prema muzu bilo sto je tiranin ili sto je nevjeran i potencieanje prema sinu seksualiziran odnos kako bi ga pridibila, sin moze a i ne mora osjecati majku seksualno privlacnu radi njenog zavodjenja( Fairbairn, Fromm..itd) Mrznja prema ocu rivalu je reakcija na konkurentnost i on svojim tiranskim odnosom proizvodi mrznju sina, vanjski uslovi proizvodr mrznju koja ima dvije varijante, teznja za slobodom i oslobadjanje od tiranije i podredjenosti ( Fromm) ili odstranjivanje smetnje, konkurencuje za ljubav prema majci( Adler, Frojd..itd..) Jezgro edipovog kompleksa nije seksualni interes prema majci nego mrznja, gnjev prema ocu ili drugim konkurentima, obicno se konkurenti javljaju ako su tiranski nastrojeni ili na neki drugi nacin teroriziraju zelju za privrzenoscu. Odnos djete- majka nije seksualne prirode neko nutritivne i zastitne( njeznost, toplota, hrana, sigurnost, vezanost a seksualnost ako se i javi ima gore pomenute razloge)( Jung) 2. Teznja danasnje zene da dominacijom nad muskarcem, detroniziranje muskarca, borba za nadmoc i prava, obezvrjedjivanje muskarca podrugivanjem i sovinisticka tendencijs kroz sale, traceve ili opasne klevete. Adler ovo zove Muski protest i posljedica je teskog kompleksa inferiornosti bilo nekim hendikepom ili umisljenim hendikepom i moze sa nosi korijen iz djetinjstva zvog oca tiranina i tezi da se kompenzuje nekim vecim ucinkom. Frojd ovo moze da zove muski protest a genezu tog kompleksa manje vrijednosti vidi u Kastracionom kompleksu koji je anatomske prirode i generise tjeskobu i jak zavist prema penisu koji je centar zenskog Edipovog kompleksa i moze da nesvjesno generise to ponasanje intenziclvne zavisti prema muskarcima. Nebitno dali su to roditelji ( okruzenje) proizveli ili unutrasnje nagonske snage same od sebe( Frojd), ovaj fenomen muskog protesta postoji i svakodnevno se moze vidjeti u raznim oblicima i varijantama. Druga muska varijanta bi bila jak osjecaj kastracionog straha koji se manifestuje kroz jake tesnje ka nadmoci i seksualnoj moci nad zenama i drugim muskim konkurentima. Opet, Adler ovo izvlaci iz jakog kompleksa inferiornosti bilo zbog nekog tjelesnog hendikepa ili umisljenog i teznja za nadmoc je konstantno ponasanje ubsvim sferama kao i u seksualnoj. Frojd ovo izvlaci iz neprevazidjenog Edipovog Kompleksa koji generise tjeskobu zbog pretnje kastracijom, kastracija umisljena ili konkretna daje povoda za formiranje ponasanja koje ide linijom drskog machoizma, seksualne nadmoci nad konkurencijom i dokazivanjem potencije zenama kroz promiskuitet. (W. Reich ovo naziva falicno- narcisticni karakter) Ovaj tip muskarca je uocljiv u svakodnevnom zivotu i tesko je reci kad se radi o neurotskom a kad o psihopatskom karakteru iako itekako postoje razlike u izrazavanju tjeskobe koja je odredjenim ponasanjem neutralise. Edipov kompleks propada onda kada se formira nad ja( savjest instanca) koja je internalizovana od oca ili drustva a oni koji to nisu uspjeli edipov kompleks je aktivan i djeluje iz nesvjesnog u raznim oblicima ponasanja. Sta onda daje pogon muskom protestu kod zene i muskarca ako ne Edipov kompleks ili kompleks manje vrijednosti ? Cinjenica je da je Frojdova epoha generisala sasvim drugu patologiju od danasnje, cinjenica je da su Fromova predvidjanja sasvim ispravna oko dolaska kapitalistickog kibernetskog drustva i tiranije nad covjekom, cinjenica je da je Frojd prevazidjen ali nikako zbog toga ne treba neke njegove uvide obezvjedjivati ili potpuno negirati kao sto to odavno rade jos od njegovog vremena a pogotovo danas, mnogi psihijatri i psiholozi se uzasavaju i boje Frojda.

Hvala Marjane na odličnim prilozima.❤

Kratko i meni kao laiku skroz jasno

Complex trauma is not just past events. It is happening now! The trauma healing is the most important thing.

Poštovani Marjane, redovno pratim vaše postove, poučni su i lekoviti.

Someone told me about Janov, he's European so I wonder if he's a commonly understood person in Europe, which lead me to find you, doing a search on YT. Thank you for doing these video in English, is where I'm going with this. I often think social rejects just don't know how to talk about feelings and that's how they band together and make say punk rock culture, etc, as alternative routes of connecting and attempting to heal those childhood wounds. Though I think the American phrase that's used now for repression therapy, or primal therapy, (which I've never heard of until you mentioned it) is, healing the inner child.

Janov says he discovered a way to reconnect humans, the human brain, to evolution...

Good video

Excellent description and explanation! Thanks, Marjan!