Емиције не лажу. Треба бити искрен емициинално интелигентан и спознати "име и презиме" емиције јер само тако можемо спознати одакле и због чега настају. Ти је истина која је лековита и само нас она може излечити. То важи за појединца, за поридицу, радни колектив и за народ у целини. Тај принцип важи на свим нивоима и то је оно што господин Тошић с правом истиче. Треба само пронаћи оваквог психотерапеута као пто је Марјан.
@psiholog.emocentar3 күн бұрын
Hvala na komplimentu!
@zivkovasic82355 күн бұрын
Обухватили сте сва питања која постоје између психотерапеута и клијента. То потврђује да сте Ви принашли професионалну и људску меру односа клијент-психотерапеут. Нусам читао Вапу књигу Исцељујућа моћ емоција и не могу да претпоставим шта се крије иза тиг наслова. Како каже прифесор Милан Милић - Емоције не лажу. Интересује ме да ли сарађујете Ви и професор Милић. Прочитао сам његових шест књига и читам их поново. Није дивољно прочитати, треба разумети (то сам учинии), али треба то усвијити и применити. Надам се да ћу и Вашу књигу набавити. Из ових некилико видеа које сам одгледао, нема сумње да сте врло искусан психотерапеут. Чуди ме мали број прегледа и да нисте пизнати пириј јавности. Штета. Имате шта да кажете.
@psiholog.emocentar3 күн бұрын
Hvala!
@zivkovasic82357 күн бұрын
Доста честа појава у друштвеним наукама, али и у техничким, да се нешто открије тако што се уоче само дибре стране тога, али не и све негативне стране. А још горе је кад то почну да примењују неквалитетни, нестручни и некреативни људи. Примера има сијасет, од обичниг производа до друштвених феномена. Зар се не срећемо с оојавим да се неки ниви лек глорификује а онда се зљбрани његова употреба. Или, ми самоуправу претворимо у самоуправљање па онда у само управљање и то накарадно, да бисмо сад опет стигли скоро до диктатуре једниг човека.
@psiholog.emocentar7 күн бұрын
Hvala na komentaru!
@zivkovasic82358 күн бұрын
Први пут слушам Марјана Тошића. Једина моја примедба је мала јачина звука, али предавање је изванредно. Кад неки принцип треба да проверимо онда треба да гледамо да ли он важи за сваког појединца, групу па и народ. Тошић је то изванредно објаснио и практично показао како настаје и како се мења идентитет од појединца до народа. Било би добро да једну (или неколико) предавања посветите идентитету српскиг народа. Било би добро да држава Србија финансира и помогне такав пријекат на мултидисциплинарном нивоу.
@psiholog.emocentar7 күн бұрын
Hvala na sugestiji i komentaru!
@PeroVrlic13 күн бұрын
Ali nije mi jasna teza psihologa i ostalih učenih ljudi budi pošten nemoj krasti nemoj koristiti političke veze a naši najbogatiji ljudi su takvi, moje lično mišljenje da se nemože biti najbogatiji u Srbiji kao pošten čovjek
@psiholog.emocentar7 күн бұрын
Hvala na komentaru!
@PeroVrlic5 күн бұрын
@@psiholog.emocentar hvala Vama na odgovoru
@47116919 күн бұрын
Sta kaze Pierre Janet na to ? Svi su ga zaboravili a takav vazan doprinos dao po ovim pitanjima.
@psiholog.emocentar18 күн бұрын
Šta kaže Pierre Janet? Radoznao sam!
@riskastefanova1680Ай бұрын
Hvala od ❤❤❤. Tako lepo objasnjeno. Za mene velika uteha. Veliki pozdrav.
@psiholog.emocentar19 күн бұрын
Drago mi je!
@Aleksandar-oy9uuАй бұрын
Porodica je deo šireg sistema,osnovna ćelija društva kroz koju se prelamaju društveni odnosi bazirani na kulturnim vrednostima konkretnog društva koji mogu biti autoritarni ili zasnovani na dijalogu i toleranciji.Porodica,šire formalne i neformalne grupe kao ni konkretni pojedinci ne žive u društvenom vakuumu.Ostalo je tačno.
@psiholog.emocentarАй бұрын
Naravno, međutim, i u najdemokratskijim društvima na svetu imate decu, mlade i odrasle koji su veoma neurotični i potreban im je tretman.
@Aleksandar-oy9uuАй бұрын
@@psiholog.emocentar Slažem se,psihoterapija ima smisla,u njoj je akumulirana ogromna životna mudrost.
@psiholog.emocentar7 күн бұрын
Možda su životne mudrosti nešto šire, u svakom slučaju, u psihoterapiji su akumulirane mudrosti i veštine pomaganja ljudima da se duševno osećaju bolje.
@dariomargeliАй бұрын
Good. Thanks. Do you have a video to practice on our own?
@psiholog.emocentarАй бұрын
I'm thinking of making a video of "self-therapy" type, but it is risky, since psychotherapy in itself is a social event.
@khansheraniАй бұрын
Gr8 insights ❤❤❤
@psiholog.emocentarАй бұрын
Thanks!
@SHumadinacXАй бұрын
Znači da uklonim "roditelje" ?!
@psiholog.emocentarАй бұрын
Ne, nikako!
@SHumadinacXАй бұрын
@@psiholog.emocentar Онда једино побећи на петнаестогодишње “студије” у Ниш 😋
@DaliborBabic-k2j14 күн бұрын
@@psiholog.emocentarZnači, moraš da obažavaš roditelje, inače moraš svakako da misliš šta su to reči, moraš da imaš samo mira i odgovornosti.👍🏻
@SHumadinacXАй бұрын
Аууу, колико врста - па ја сам онда 300 % болестан 🤷🏼♂️. Ту нема спаса 🤦🏻😂
@slavaivanovic2335Ай бұрын
Eee moj doktore udala sam se mlada 23g u braku Oda sm se razvela 2020g oda sam pošla na dijalizu2026g 5 puta operisana e onda nastaje pakao dve sestre preminu onda brat pa kad je bila Korona još dva brata.I vi meni recite kako da mi pomognete...
@psiholog.emocentarАй бұрын
Psihoterapija koja će Vam odgovarati!
@jean-pierre99623 ай бұрын
Un long travail de reconstruction, qui fonctionne à merveille, on se retrouvent en totalité, on retrouvent tous ces sentiments, j’adore les retrouvés, j’adore me retrouver, je n’imagine pas la vie sans qui je suis , reellement, la vie n’a vraiment aucuns intérêts sinon..j’y parviens,ce n’est pas évident, mais c’est du concret , je redeviens moi , pas à pas..
@jahjah17694 ай бұрын
I thought by this video we would get to the actual technique.
@psiholog.emocentarАй бұрын
You can read about primal techniques in Janov's books, although all techniques come down to encouraging clients to feel their painful feelings related to their primal (I use the word "emotional") needs. There are no universal techniques. One technique can be more useful with one client, and the other - with the other client. Whatever intervention makes a client emotional, you can call "technique ". If I quote a few touching lines from a poem that are relevant to the client's life, and the client starts to cry, it can be called a "technique".
@jahjah1769Ай бұрын
@@psiholog.emocentar okay, thank you
@psiholog.emocentar7 күн бұрын
You're welcome!
@Raina4304 ай бұрын
This is so beautifully said. I really appreciate it, as a person who has been into primal for 30 years. Your point about Janov the internal support is so true. People wonder why his therapy wasn’t accepted but how could it be? A good therapist would realize the importance of what was missing. The first principle of medicine is do no harm and how can a person be safe if they’re not supported internally? I’m extremely grateful to Janov for explaining to me the nature of deep, cathartic feeling work. At one point I had 11 of his books. The term abreaction, in the definition that I read on the Internet, is to me the same exactly as primal. Janov gave it his own definition as fake feeling, and of course it is very important to point out, as you described, because feeling can be healing or not healing, Integrating or disintegrating. But others have pointed that out too. I also feel that this was a mistake that he made. In doing that, he separated himself from those who do real feeling work, and they certainly exist. I have several friends who do profound primal work and they’ve never heard of primal therapy. They organically recognize what a true primal is, and they’ve done it for years. I only briefly scanned this long article I linked below but I have read a book by the same author called “the haunted self, structural dissociation and the healing of chronic traumatization”. They use feeling work, and that is the central part of the therapy. However, they go into extensive detail about the other aspects of trauma and how to support someone from within. The article is called abreaction reevaluated and he uses the term abreaction as real feeling not fake feeling. And some people who dissociated at an early age actually missed all their emotional developmental stages. They arrived in adulthood barely able to function. I know a lot about this myself. Therefore it takes many years, even decades of careful foundation building, in order to have enough foundation in reality to have a place to stand and witness what happened. And I think that deeper and deeper layers of feeling come up over the years, over a lifetime really, and then we alternate building a stronger self, and going into deeper layers of pain. It’s like a spiral, and that alternation can happen even during one day. I appreciate your great depth of understanding, and I’m glad you are helping people as a therapist, and putting out this message. ❤️Elaine scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/1652/Diss_5_3_2_OCR.pdf?sequence=1 😊
@psiholog.emocentar2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your elaborate comment!!
@Raina430Ай бұрын
@@psiholog.emocentar Thanks! Best wishes and thank you again for your work! 💜
@psiholog.emocentar7 күн бұрын
Thank you for your support!
@Phillip-i6c4 ай бұрын
So wonderful to have found you and Dr Janov thank you
@psiholog.emocentar2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your support!
@ernstritzmann11066 ай бұрын
Yes, the internal support system must be there. Some people need to develop it before they can access deep feelings without becoming dis-regulated.
@psiholog.emocentar2 ай бұрын
That's right!
@PeroVrlic6 ай бұрын
Kao psiholog koje je Vaše mišljenje o zloupotrebi marihuane ja kao mladom čoveku je to jako nepoznata tema ne znam ništa, ne znam je li marihuana zdrava biljka ili opasna biljka Lp
@psiholog.emocentar4 ай бұрын
Bilo koje hemijsko sredstvo (alkohol, marihuana, LSD, halucinogene pečurke...) koje menja stanje svesti, može privremeno proizvesti neobična stanja i doživljaje, ali cena za to je oštećenje naših ćelija, telesnih i moždanih. Ne preporučujem ništa od toga. Psihoterapija je najbolji način za lični razvoj!
@kartikeyaa47056 ай бұрын
Усиљено плакање засновано на самосажаљењу, на лажном егу који оплакује себе је бескорисно, заваравајуће и често штетно. Оно је прерушени облик самоважности лажног ега, који себе тако ојачава. Плакање које је израз повезивања са неиживљеном траумом која у себи носи и тугу је исцељујуће, разграђује лажни его. Плакање које није рођено из повезивања са конкретним непроживљеним трауматичним осећајем је суптилан начин да се особа сакрије иза таквог плакања од изворног осећаја и изгуби у тако произведној бури и вреви
@psiholog.emocentar4 ай бұрын
Slažem se potpuno!
@jrjasminaradulj55427 ай бұрын
Izvrsna, izvrsna tri videa. Hvala vam na ovome. Vrlo jasno i jezgrovito što je to terapija koja donosi rezultate i daje život konačno ispunjen duševnim mirom i radošću...
@jrjasminaradulj55427 ай бұрын
An excellent lecture. Thank you. Primal therapy really rocks the essence of a person and that is what is needed in order to be healed and whole again - feeling and proactively leading your life. And not just react to triggers constantly.
@apokalipsa13297 ай бұрын
Imam problem sa aneksioznoscu, strah od zaposlenja, strah od obaveza, strah od mnogo ljudi...da cu reci nesto glupo...
@brankapogacar55048 ай бұрын
Kratko i stručno objašnjeno Hvala i Vama !
@psiholog.emocentar7 ай бұрын
Hvala!
@ljiljani55592 ай бұрын
Lijepo ste to objasnili. Doživjela sam tri gubitka. Upravo tako proživljavam. Stalno plačem. Teško mi je. Dva sina I muža. Sama sam ostala . I prijatelji vas izbjegavaju kad god mogu. Kažu da se samo žali 40 dana , ostalo je patologa. Sad mi je malo lakše . Hvala vam.😭
@mirjanaperkovic64028 ай бұрын
Poštovani profesore, hvala Vam od ❤. Vaša knjiga "Isceljujuća moć emocija" je bio divan znak na mom putu iscjeljenje. Divan početak jednog divnog putovanja ❤
@psiholog.emocentar8 ай бұрын
Veoma mi je drago zbog toga! Pozdrav!
@vesnacvetkovic56828 ай бұрын
❤
@psiholog.emocentar8 ай бұрын
Hvala!
@mdbruhn9 ай бұрын
I love what you have laid out here in your presentation. I had some kind of awakening when I read Janov's book 'Prisoner's of Pain'. The only issue I had with Janov's ideas was his pushing of 'Primal Therapy' as such. I have undertaken personal healing using various processes, including holotropic breathwork. I think there are many processes which help heal deepchildhood woundedness. But I love, love, love the way Janov lays out the causations of emotional suffering, and it's links to 'unfelt' grief, anger, sadness etc from childhood. I agree too with what you have to say about triggers, taking you away from the here and now. I think it is tragic that Janov's work has been so discredited. But for me, while he might have been better to have taken things more slowly with his clients, there are principles for dealing with childhood trauma, that he extensively wrote, which are remarkable.
@psiholog.emocentar8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment!
@SlobodanMilenkovic-yk9ok10 ай бұрын
Jedno pitanje .Fizicka aktivnost koliko.pomaze kod anksioznosti i straha .Hvala unapred
@psiholog.emocentar8 ай бұрын
Mislim da pomaže, svakako, jer je umerena fizička akvitnost zdrava u svakom pogledu, ali ne može da izleči anksioznost, zato što anksioznost nije posledica fizičke neaktivnosti. Naravno, dugotrajna fizička neaktivnost izaziva određeni nivo napetosti u mišićima, ali anksioznost često puta nema veze sa mišićnom napetošću.
@kyleelawsonnaturopathy459610 ай бұрын
I have found these responses are unresolved stress that has not been neutralised in the neuromuscular body. I have developed a physical therapy that deletes the response therefore releasing the reaction in the physical body-"the feeling". When we feel at peace there is no problem. Disease is the accumulation of distress until the body is neutralised by death . R.I.P. (ripped off by the system hard driving you to death)
@psiholog.emocentar8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment!
@frogman66412 ай бұрын
I feel uncomfortable with your word "delete" as I have found every element in a person's feeling-response-resistenace/defense process should be respected. A defense against feeling should be respected and made to feel so accepted and acknowledged that it spontaneously releases and moves to feeling. Our defenses are acts of will and will should be respected too.
@selmayazici5327Ай бұрын
Nasıl buldunuz hangi kaynak ve uygulama? buna çok ihtiyacım var,narsist anne ve eş beni çok yıprattı😢
@psiholog.emocentar7 күн бұрын
@frogman6641 Did I use the word "delete"?
@primaprims932410 ай бұрын
Sjajni ste doktore.
@psiholog.emocentar8 ай бұрын
Hvala!
@Rim...11 ай бұрын
99% all modern psychotherapy doesn't work. It only works primal therapy. It's the 8th wonder of the world, a must-do for everyone.
@psiholog.emocentar8 ай бұрын
I agree!
@elizabethbramlett4414 Жыл бұрын
This was excellent, thank you for explaining that another component of the healing process is activated by experiencing the "need" behind the pain. Very useful insightful and useful.
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mojsvet3683 Жыл бұрын
Sto duze to bolje, nekad to moze biti i beskonacno dugo. Jednostavno, ne nazire se kraj, redovno se placaju seanse, a klijent nema nikakav osecaj da ce se ikada nesto promeniti ili zavrsiti i mislice da je sve to normalno 😀
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
Klijenti koji u bilo kojoj vrsti psihoterapije ne osećaju poboljšanje, ne treba da nastavljaju, psihoterapija nije obavezna. Komentare mojih klijenata možete naći na mom sajtu "Emocentar" i na Google-u.
@mojsvet3683 Жыл бұрын
@@psiholog.emocentar Naravno, ima dobrih i postenih psihoterapeuta, moj komentar se nije odnosio na Vas licno, vec na naslov teme. Ne sumnjam u to da ste Vi jedan od boljih.. Pozdrav
@psiholog.emocentar7 күн бұрын
Hvala!
@brankapogacar5504 Жыл бұрын
Hvala!😍
@psiholog.emocentar8 ай бұрын
Hvala Vama na komentaru!
@daxbabic1421 Жыл бұрын
Snaga je deo funkcije mašte, a slabost 😢 je deo ne vraćanje u prošlost!!!💔😭
@psiholog.emocentar8 ай бұрын
Hvala ti na komentaru!
@jovanmilicevic4181 Жыл бұрын
Najlakse se ankcioznost leci, tako sto se promeni krug ljudi i sredina, nego budalama to ne moze da se dokaze.
@psiholog.emocentar8 ай бұрын
To može pomoći, naročito ako su taj krug ljudi i sredina stvarni uzrok anksioznosti, ali ponekad to nije dovoljno.
@SHumadinacX4 ай бұрын
Апсолутно се слажем. 😊
@kartikeyaa4705 Жыл бұрын
Finally, I think that Kim Eng well compare the relationship between the self-realization that Eckhart Tolle talks about and the "Primal therapy" of Arthur Janov in the video called "The Pain Body: The Hidden Secret Behind Self Realization". kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2ixZaaKaKl0eJY There she defines the pain body as: "The pain body is an accumulation of old, unprocessed emotional wounds". And that, I would say, best corresponds to what Janov calls the 'reservoir of primal pain' - i.e. : "Every time a child is not held when he needs it, every time he is silenced, laughed at, neglected, or made to do something beyond his ability, more burden will be added to his reservoir of hurt. This reservoir I call it the primal reservoir. Every addition to that reservoir makes the child even more unreal and neurotic." "This idea of a reservoir of pain that exists in the neurotic is more than a simple metaphor - often the primal patients themselves tell us about it in one way or another (how they carry a septic tank of injury)..." "The primal process is the systematic draining of the reservoir of pain. When the tank is empty, I consider the person to be real, to be healthy." ... and so on...
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the link! I like it, although, Kim is not very concrete, rather she speaks using metafors. For instance, painful emotions cannot be "transcended or transformed", they can only be felt and cried out. But enjoyed listening to her!
@kartikeyaa4705 Жыл бұрын
@@psiholog.emocentar I'm not sure in what sense she uses the terms "transform", and especially "transcend" (the primary term that she sticks to is - "dissolve"). Because from her initial presentation in the video, it can be seen that is clear to her that the only way to get rid of "the pain body" is to go through these accumulated and unresolved emotions, to feel them (She said: " So, the only way that I was discovered to be free of "the pain body" is actually to move through "the pain body"... to let go of the illusion that somehow you do not have to deal with it,..."). "The pain body" can neither be ignored nor bypassed,get around it, we must go through it. In the process of get rid of "the pain body" - sometimes it's sadness, and we cried it out, but sometimes it's fear, anger, hopelessness, helplessness, abandonment... Janov also uses the term "transform" in an attempt to explain primal pain, especially if it is viewed from the point of view of energy, which he also does in one place). And when it comes to transcendence, our mind always gets confused because it tries (and this is mind natural function) to explain something inexplicable, so people who try to explain it, often seem to others that they are not exactly at an angle, at 90°, that they are a little crooked... So the mere mention of transcendence always indicates something difficult to grasp. Transcendence can be experienced, but it cannot be explained.
@kartikeyaa4705 Жыл бұрын
@@psiholog.emocentar There is another video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ6VqaqMhZmmkNk in which Kim talks about getting rid of "the pain body", in response to a question from a certain girl nicknamed "Mai Sirry", who has started the process of emerging primal pain. And from that video it can be seen that Kim is clearly aware that the only way to free a person from "the pain body" is to go through "the pain body", not to bypass it or ignore it, suppress it, or to hide behind some illusion that we are already become familiar to used to hiding behind. It is also interesting that "Mai Sirry", describing what is happening to her, uses almost identical terms used by many of Janov's clients: "... and I feel like I opened up like the top of sewage and it just keeps coming and coming and coming...
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
@@kartikeyaa4705 Thank you for the comment!
@471169 Жыл бұрын
Dobri su vasi prilozi, samo nastavite dalje. Nebi bilo lose napraviti nesto o snovima.
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
Hvala!
@kartikeyaa4705 Жыл бұрын
It should be noted that Eckhart Tolle came to his realization only when he was on the verge of suicide - that is, under enormous pressure, on the verge of life and death!!! It was similar with Michael Brown, the author of "The Presence Process" - he had terrible pains from some kind of neuralgia (Horton's syndrome) for which there was no cure, which brought him to the brink of madness... the doctors told him that there was the danger of either becoming a drug addict or committing suicide, since the pain was daily and unbearable for 10 years... So he also came to his discovery under enormous pressure on the edge of life and death... Also Lester Levenson discovered the Sedona Method , after the second heart attack, after he was practically sent home from the hospital - to die, he was in such a bad condition (he was 42 at the time), and he, also, discovered the method under such tremendous pressure. It is not easy thing! As far as I know, the vast majority of those who INDEPENDENTLY (on their own) came to connect with their primal pain, did so under enormous pressure from the circumstances of their lives. In traditional systems, the necessary pressure or detour around resistance and defenses is provided by the teacher (in therapy, an experienced therapist). Even Janov at first practically forced the client into the primal, skipping the step-by-step approach, until he invented more subtle methods to bypass the resistance, to somehow induce or "trick" the client into entering the primal. All of these methods are effective on the condition that the client reaches his primal pain and experiences it fully - which is not pleasant for anyone and no one is happy to do something like that, no matter how well they know the theory. If this does not happen, if the client does not reach his primal pain and does not fully experience it, - then we are just wasted time and effort that does not bear fruit (not that everyone who tries, even with the help of others, succeeds) and it boils down to to theoretical and philosophical stories. The main thing is gradualness, the layers of trauma must be removed, gradually, as they were created. The most problematic and most charged events are usually events with parents from early childhood, the rest is preparation for that.
@kartikeyaa4705 Жыл бұрын
Janov is a true treasure for deluded humanity, unfortunately unrecognized and not appreciated nearly as much as he deserves with his primal therapy.
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@471169 Жыл бұрын
Edipov kompleks( jako nepijateljstvo i mrznja prema rivalu ocui njezna ili seksualna privrzenost prema majci) 1. Veliko je pitanje dali je seksualni motiv odnos prema majci ili samo njeznost, ljubav.( Adler, Jung, Fromm..itd). Seksualnist sina prema majci i ako postoji je proizvod njenog histeroformnog zavodjenja i osvetoljubiv odnos prema muzu bilo sto je tiranin ili sto je nevjeran i potencieanje prema sinu seksualiziran odnos kako bi ga pridibila, sin moze a i ne mora osjecati majku seksualno privlacnu radi njenog zavodjenja( Fairbairn, Fromm..itd) Mrznja prema ocu rivalu je reakcija na konkurentnost i on svojim tiranskim odnosom proizvodi mrznju sina, vanjski uslovi proizvodr mrznju koja ima dvije varijante, teznja za slobodom i oslobadjanje od tiranije i podredjenosti ( Fromm) ili odstranjivanje smetnje, konkurencuje za ljubav prema majci( Adler, Frojd..itd..) Jezgro edipovog kompleksa nije seksualni interes prema majci nego mrznja, gnjev prema ocu ili drugim konkurentima, obicno se konkurenti javljaju ako su tiranski nastrojeni ili na neki drugi nacin teroriziraju zelju za privrzenoscu. Odnos djete- majka nije seksualne prirode neko nutritivne i zastitne( njeznost, toplota, hrana, sigurnost, vezanost a seksualnost ako se i javi ima gore pomenute razloge)( Jung) 2. Teznja danasnje zene da dominacijom nad muskarcem, detroniziranje muskarca, borba za nadmoc i prava, obezvrjedjivanje muskarca podrugivanjem i sovinisticka tendencijs kroz sale, traceve ili opasne klevete. Adler ovo zove Muski protest i posljedica je teskog kompleksa inferiornosti bilo nekim hendikepom ili umisljenim hendikepom i moze sa nosi korijen iz djetinjstva zvog oca tiranina i tezi da se kompenzuje nekim vecim ucinkom. Frojd ovo moze da zove muski protest a genezu tog kompleksa manje vrijednosti vidi u Kastracionom kompleksu koji je anatomske prirode i generise tjeskobu i jak zavist prema penisu koji je centar zenskog Edipovog kompleksa i moze da nesvjesno generise to ponasanje intenziclvne zavisti prema muskarcima. Nebitno dali su to roditelji ( okruzenje) proizveli ili unutrasnje nagonske snage same od sebe( Frojd), ovaj fenomen muskog protesta postoji i svakodnevno se moze vidjeti u raznim oblicima i varijantama. Druga muska varijanta bi bila jak osjecaj kastracionog straha koji se manifestuje kroz jake tesnje ka nadmoci i seksualnoj moci nad zenama i drugim muskim konkurentima. Opet, Adler ovo izvlaci iz jakog kompleksa inferiornosti bilo zbog nekog tjelesnog hendikepa ili umisljenog i teznja za nadmoc je konstantno ponasanje ubsvim sferama kao i u seksualnoj. Frojd ovo izvlaci iz neprevazidjenog Edipovog Kompleksa koji generise tjeskobu zbog pretnje kastracijom, kastracija umisljena ili konkretna daje povoda za formiranje ponasanja koje ide linijom drskog machoizma, seksualne nadmoci nad konkurencijom i dokazivanjem potencije zenama kroz promiskuitet. (W. Reich ovo naziva falicno- narcisticni karakter) Ovaj tip muskarca je uocljiv u svakodnevnom zivotu i tesko je reci kad se radi o neurotskom a kad o psihopatskom karakteru iako itekako postoje razlike u izrazavanju tjeskobe koja je odredjenim ponasanjem neutralise. Edipov kompleks propada onda kada se formira nad ja( savjest instanca) koja je internalizovana od oca ili drustva a oni koji to nisu uspjeli edipov kompleks je aktivan i djeluje iz nesvjesnog u raznim oblicima ponasanja. Sta onda daje pogon muskom protestu kod zene i muskarca ako ne Edipov kompleks ili kompleks manje vrijednosti ? Cinjenica je da je Frojdova epoha generisala sasvim drugu patologiju od danasnje, cinjenica je da su Fromova predvidjanja sasvim ispravna oko dolaska kapitalistickog kibernetskog drustva i tiranije nad covjekom, cinjenica je da je Frojd prevazidjen ali nikako zbog toga ne treba neke njegove uvide obezvjedjivati ili potpuno negirati kao sto to odavno rade jos od njegovog vremena a pogotovo danas, mnogi psihijatri i psiholozi se uzasavaju i boje Frojda.
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
Hvala na komentaru!
@slavicastanojlovic7426 Жыл бұрын
Hvala Marjane na odličnim prilozima.❤
@creative-attempts Жыл бұрын
Hvala!
@dejandejanov5625 Жыл бұрын
Kratko i meni kao laiku skroz jasno
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
Hvala!
@andreasretsinas2142 Жыл бұрын
Complex trauma is not just past events. It is happening now! The trauma healing is the most important thing.
@kartikeyaa4705 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, only the process of clearing up ongoing "traumas", i.e. "pollution" of consciousness due to daily interactions with other people and the environment (because not only "traumatic" experiences are problematic), it is not possible to start (it is not even possible to be aware of them) before a person clears up the traumas from the past. Once started, the process never ends, because new "pollution" come in an endless sequence, like waves...Every interaction, if it is not consciously experienced, accumulates in us and has a negative impact.
@psiholog.emocentar8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment!
@vladobgd02 Жыл бұрын
Poštovani Marjane, redovno pratim vaše postove, poučni su i lekoviti.
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
Hvala, Vlado!
@AstroSquid Жыл бұрын
Someone told me about Janov, he's European so I wonder if he's a commonly understood person in Europe, which lead me to find you, doing a search on YT. Thank you for doing these video in English, is where I'm going with this. I often think social rejects just don't know how to talk about feelings and that's how they band together and make say punk rock culture, etc, as alternative routes of connecting and attempting to heal those childhood wounds. Though I think the American phrase that's used now for repression therapy, or primal therapy, (which I've never heard of until you mentioned it) is, healing the inner child.
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment. Arthur Janov is actually an American, although he lived in France for 20-30 years.
@jrjasminaradulj55427 ай бұрын
@@psiholog.emocentar But Arthur's parents were Ukrainian immigrants of Jewish roots. Therefore Arthur is a European but with an American upbringing... Most likely they came to the USA just around the time of the big Ukraine War of Independence, 1917-1921, and therefore were psychologically damaged in many ways, including being non-sensitive parents to Arthur.
@psiholog.emocentar7 күн бұрын
Could be, I don't know much of his family history.
@ytrebiLeurT Жыл бұрын
Janov says he discovered a way to reconnect humans, the human brain, to evolution...
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
Arthur Janov is very important author indeed!
@jamiebarclay8939 Жыл бұрын
Good video
@psiholog.emocentar Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ErikLundholm1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent description and explanation! Thanks, Marjan!