Why if these companies know this problem can come up with solutions to better enhance their product. Many retirees love their bags.
@nomadmarauder-dw9re3 ай бұрын
The cracking problem is a thing with the military because the military focuses on maxing load out. For me, and most other users its not about maximum load out. Its about comfort and organization of moderate loads. 20-30 lbs max. IMHO, the military should go back to the old school plywood packboard for stuff like mortars, ammo, jerrycans, etc. Something like that, but with a suspension system like the MOLLE 2. Before you collapse with laughter, consider that there are USED ones that are still as good as new. And a lot more economical.
@shenanigans8apeach10 ай бұрын
Im just outside the harrisburg area hit me up if you want to link up. Must be able-bodied. Lots of hiking and shoveling to get the good stuff.
@David-fv7zg29 күн бұрын
Im interested
@Thee-_-Outlier Жыл бұрын
Lol
@SpicyAl3000 Жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks :)
@harrywise7227 Жыл бұрын
1/2 in PVC 11inches, 2 ea end caps goes into frame pocket. 1/2 in PVC 13 1/4 inches, 2 ea end caps goes outside of frame pocket. Join PVC with cable ties and tie to MOLLE frame.
@bobcow363 Жыл бұрын
What creek are you guys working
@oldsoldier181 Жыл бұрын
The frames didnt crack from overuse-they cracked from grunts tossing them from vehicles, as we have always done. Unless you are regularly tossing these frames from a height of 5', with 80 lbs of gear in them, they likely wont crack. I have been running a medium ALICE pack on a 1606 MC frame for 7 years now, no cracks. I am also not tossing it from the back of a 5 ton.
@onseki17746 ай бұрын
Exactly, I never actually saw the FILBE frames crack from actual use, hundreds and hundreds of Marines in my battalions using them with no issue. Don't throw them from trucks. They are incredibly robust, they hold up to being hung off the sides of LAVs and AAVs and hundreds of miles of hiking.
@onseki17746 ай бұрын
The whole filbe frame straps and kidney belt system is absolutely phenomenal. We used to load our flaks and kevlars inside our pain packs plus everything else, must have been 80-90lb on our backs, and I could loosen the shoulder straps completely and hang the entire load off just the belt alone for miles. An ALICE pack has nowhere near the volumetric capacity to carry 80lb, so the suspension is more than adequate for lesser loads and will probably never crack
@rippersix293 Жыл бұрын
I run a Down East Ind. 1609 open perimeter frame on my medium ALICE. It’s far more flexible and far less prone to cracking than those larger frames. It cannot be used on a large because they don’t have the strap attachments at the top of the large bag, but it will work in the medium that has the attachment points for the shoulder straps at the top of the bag.
@floydcrase625 Жыл бұрын
I use filbe on alice frame ftw plastic frames will always break and the alice frame is a versatile work horse
@RickKepple2 жыл бұрын
I found a MOLLE plastic frame at an estate sale and paid double for it to help the family. I didn't need the backpack since it was worn out, but just the frame, shoulder straps and waist belt. I bought a lot of strapping, clips and created a system to run a strap through the existing day pack shoulder straps, secured it to the frame, and two more straps holding the bag. I carry camcorders and gear in the bag. Tripods, sliders, etc. are secured on either side with shorter straps. The frame is very adaptable! So now I could carry one pack at a time into the boonies and set up a complete movie set if I wished, but probably not. I see a lot of potential for those frames.
@douglascox99962 жыл бұрын
The large ALICE pack can be adapted to almost any pack frame by inserting a section of 1/2-3/4” wooden dowel into the upper frame pocket as an anchor, then strapping or binding it to attachment points of a frame.
@zensempai7371 Жыл бұрын
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@ivanmendoza27042 жыл бұрын
Use a peak 1 frame I did that back in 1981
@johnlindsay64652 жыл бұрын
I don't know where you live but I live in the Western United States Alice systems are plentiful you go to any military store you can outfit analysis system easy Molly Molly to anything you want so stuck with me these guys saying they're not enough around over here in the last we have a pretty much military store in every city just yesterday I looked for a Alice pack Shelf they're $4.25 and they have a crate of them that's right at crate and that's like over 1,000 pack shelves the pack frames they have at least 20 now the tax themselves you got to go to another city because our city doesn't have right now they're out but all I do is look up another City's military surplus store a few miles away and then probably have it Stop Believing the stuff he saying he have trouble finding it the reality from Phoenix all the way to northern Idaho and along the coast of Western United States of Western Washington all the way through Oregon and California I found no problem finding Alice pack gear so look up military surplus store and then type in California Nevada Oregon Phoenix Colorado Utah Idaho and find a local listing here cuz they'll ship it to you
@reallyhappenings55972 жыл бұрын
Just buy a new frame of your choice and reinforce key areas with fiberglass/epoxy laminate, like repairing a boat, simple.
@reallyhappenings55972 жыл бұрын
Fiberglass and carbon fiber to the rescue as usual
@randomadventures2.02 жыл бұрын
Hey great video. Just subscribed
@jeremybarker83313 жыл бұрын
Any updates on frames
@ElMeroChano3 жыл бұрын
I have a rothco frame,,,,,,and they suck, substandard.
@veinspect3 жыл бұрын
Cheap Chicom knockoffs...mine fell apart on the first outing. Lasted a day and a half. Cobbled it together to get me through 2 more days. Got back to my vehicle stripped the pack off and drove over the frame and pitched it in the trash.
@ElMeroChano3 жыл бұрын
@@veinspect after much searching finally won a bid on an USGI alice pack for 50 bucks with new pads, but it took a while, tried every online military surplus shop. The original Alice pack frame is getting pricey and harder to come by, that rothco frame is garbage.
@bugoutstuff58403 жыл бұрын
Hi Everyone, this video, was just to prove that you can find some kind of gold, it didn't amount to much, but was an awesome time!!!
@howardharaway22593 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you dig deeper by couple feet down and start panning then you have a better chance of getting bigger pieces
@bugoutstuff58403 жыл бұрын
Have you ever, tried panning for gold, it was a small stream and the 2 people that helped us are very experienced gold mining guys!!
@howardharaway22593 жыл бұрын
Why would central Pennsylvania be better for gold than let's say Western Pennsylvania or Eastern Pennsylvania ?
@jefftaylor73063 жыл бұрын
Based on glacier travel from long ago...also state college area has some....extreme south york county....
@taheelur13 жыл бұрын
It would be so badass if someone made an ALICE/FILBE compatible frame that can be easily removed and folds out into a cot
@Phantasmos3 жыл бұрын
Rothco made in China vs Lowest Bidder made Where? 🤐
@whoknowswhat81803 жыл бұрын
Know this is old video but where are you at in PA round about area?
@evanamberandtalor3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for people near me for detectoring and sluicing in Erie..if anyone interested
@alphapatriot84053 жыл бұрын
Coleman ram x pack frame ?
@alsillman70493 жыл бұрын
This is a realistic video for the beginning enthusiasts. Good job!
@bugoutstuff58403 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!
@amateurastronaut50064 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna try my luck in the laurel mountains. It's about 35 minutes from me. I haven't heard much about anything being found there. But I do have a hunch.
@johanhelberglongbowsknifes11854 жыл бұрын
Build PVC rack boom finish
@johanhelberglongbowsknifes11854 жыл бұрын
Your survivalist Yankees always tell everybody what to do on the internet and big brother was watching you and then they see through your plans and now they lock you down in your houses nowhere to go now what is your plan now Sargeant with corona lockdown??? Let me teach you something if you come around the corner with a Como pack they will shoot first then talk.
@oldsoldier1813 жыл бұрын
Thats implying they are on the wrong side....do you honestly think the police and national guard are willing to go and kill their own neighbors and relatives??? Of course we arent. Turning an armed military loose on the citizenry in this country is illegal, and us police and soldiers are well aware of that. We HAD a curfew. No one was shot or killed. Police simply asked people to remain home. There werent even that many fines issued, nationwide. Politicians want Americans to think that they can use the police to force people to remain at home. Police know that cannot be done. We dont suspend our Constitutional rights because some politician says so. Creepy diddler Joe Biden was going to enforce a national mandate, until he was told its illegal to do so. And, he has been a politician AND A LAWYER for 50 fucking years!!! No, police and military are not on the side of the politicians when it comes to lockdowns. Thats not how it works. We are their neighbors, friends, and family. Not the enemy the politicians want you to think ;)
@rugger1044 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that you need a license through Fish and Game to pan in PA and other places I read that it’s not allowed at all on County, State Parks. Does anyone know the rules for prospecting/panning in PA? Thanks.
@gusknaub9164 жыл бұрын
State Parks--ask the Ranger for permission-----Otherwise NO licence needed
@ChrisC304 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't the weight. The problem is, when you cut something, it becomes more likely that additional 'cuts' will spread out across that same structure. The modding process literally undermines the structure of parts of the 1603 frame, making it more prone to cracks. You'd need to attach the ALICE pack to the 1603 frame without cutting into it.
@aSergeantMajor4 жыл бұрын
If you can find one the out of production Coleman Ram-X frame fits the large Alice and so do the Molle straps and waist belt. That is how I modified my Alice and find it works with no problems.
@sgtjramirez72974 жыл бұрын
Did they ever make the new generation frame for the alic pac?
@robmontry76734 жыл бұрын
I live in Chambersburg, plenty of streams here, but is it legal?
@gusknaub9164 жыл бұрын
YES
@davidlinihan36264 жыл бұрын
My 1606 frames worked just fine for the past 9 years. No cracks
@kalebnolen16164 жыл бұрын
I've had three of this 1606 USMC LBE/ILBE/FILBE frames break and had the pack snap on a ruck march.
@crypto_pinto26605 жыл бұрын
All that to find out there's no remedy or there's one coming someday
@niks.62505 жыл бұрын
Any update on this?
@Impulse_Photography5 жыл бұрын
Good idea with the 5 gal buckets. I would have drilled holes along the side of the bucket at different heights. The water will escape carrying the lighter ones out of the bucket - - Gold will sink to the bottom. As water leaves the bucket then more can be added ...
@skeets60605 жыл бұрын
Where is gold in Pa?
@gusknaub9164 жыл бұрын
Research OLD iron mines------good place to start is streams near them.
@edwo66485 жыл бұрын
Man you made this way harder than it has to be. Go to Tactical Tailor they sell welded aluminum frames and an awesome suspension system that smokes the MOLLE system.
@veinspect3 жыл бұрын
...for $125.00
@johnsujith125 жыл бұрын
I got a large molle. Realised it is really.big. is there a way I reduce its size. I tried the compression strap to get it little compact. Any ideas ?
@claymorelessbag30423 жыл бұрын
get a medium Alice bag
@CaseyS-jx7yu5 жыл бұрын
Where are you located I'm right out of Harrisburg looking for some areas?
@bugoutstuff58405 жыл бұрын
Tributary off the of Yellow Breeches in Dillsburg
@kurtbaier61225 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jimtaylor69305 жыл бұрын
It looks like you don`t have enough water flow going in the sluice box ,One inch per foot just some thing you might try out next time for the videos
@bugoutstuff58405 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, we were on a very small stream that hooks up to the Yellow Breeches. This was our 1st time and we were so excited that we did find some gold, we did not expect to, but what an awesome experience. We will try your suggestion. Thank you
@TheDantastic235 жыл бұрын
Awesome job guy's. I'm in N.E. Pa and seeking any info on gold n this area. Anything you can tell me would be appreciated. Thank you.
@bugoutstuff58405 жыл бұрын
We were on a small stream that meets the Yellow Breeches in Mechanicsburg, pa. We had the best 2 gentlemen to show us how to pan gold, they have had a lot of experience. We met them at our Military/Survival store in Middletown, PA
@74dartman135 жыл бұрын
@@bugoutstuff5840 I'm in the York area. I'm gonna take a ride over some Saturday and check out your store. I never realized there was gold in this area. I used to work right near where you were panning. I think panning for gold would be a cool activity, my kids would enjoy thus summer!
@rythianblacktheblackemporium5 жыл бұрын
Thinking of joining a prospecting club here in Columbia county.