Croydon: How it is - November 2023
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#163 - Then & Now
13:55
8 ай бұрын
#162 - My Radio Show Debut
18:04
8 ай бұрын
#160 - Walks & Talks
18:25
9 ай бұрын
#159 - Open House Festival
24:57
10 ай бұрын
#158 - Tales from a Failed Shoot
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@andymcgarty3099
@andymcgarty3099 2 күн бұрын
I've got a great book for East Devon walks. Its called "REALLY Short Walks East Devon Coast". Suits me :) Great chat, interesting to here some of the behind the scenes stuff. Fingers crossed for Palace next season.
@philswallow
@philswallow 2 күн бұрын
Do they do a version for around here? 😂
@iangodden662
@iangodden662 3 күн бұрын
Not good
@timthegallant
@timthegallant 3 күн бұрын
Does anyone remember the cinema that used to be near where mcdonalds is on high street.have vague memory of my brother taking me to see a really low budget version of spider man.late 70s i guess
@timthegallant
@timthegallant 3 күн бұрын
Does anyone remember the cinema that used to be near where mcdonalds is on high street.have vague memory of my brother taking me to see a really low budget version of spider man.late 70s i guess
@timthegallant
@timthegallant 3 күн бұрын
Nothing but more tower blocks going up that arent even intended for locals while losing its last bit of character.that croydon nowadays.
@timthegallant
@timthegallant 3 күн бұрын
When allders closed it felt like the heart was pulled out of it.
@jeffreyharrison
@jeffreyharrison 3 күн бұрын
Bloody hell, late again, sorry Phil.
@philswallow
@philswallow 3 күн бұрын
😂 - next time!
@RockyValentino2013
@RockyValentino2013 6 күн бұрын
Hi Phil thanks again for another great video. Up until and from the ages 8 to about 11 I lived in Kenley (Valley View Gardens) with my nan and dad. I remember going to a round sort of roundabout out with my dad with lots of grass and no cars to practice riding my bike. Do you know this place? Or did I imagine it! We walked from Valley View Gardens. Thanks...Pam
@philswallow
@philswallow 6 күн бұрын
Hi Pam, would there have been any slopes to climb at all? As that is in the valley, there likely would have been a climb of sorts to either the Riddlesdown or Kenley sides or even the Dobbin itself. I don’t know that area very well but there may have been something a bit nearer where you lived that has since been developed.
@RockyValentino2013
@RockyValentino2013 6 күн бұрын
@@philswallow Yes I think there were. Thanks for reply love the videos!
@peterclark9677
@peterclark9677 7 күн бұрын
The red lion was the Friday night out for my late brother and his friends from St bernadettes, they where all downs children, happy days for them, most now passed away but memories remain
@guyj3025
@guyj3025 7 күн бұрын
Thx, excellent as usual - how about doing a vid or two just covering the Bourne Society plaques
@philswallow
@philswallow 7 күн бұрын
Thanks, that’s a great suggestion - I incorporate them occasionally but if I can source photos of how sites were originally (or photos of the people) that would really help tell the story. I’ll speak to some people!
@andymcgarty3099
@andymcgarty3099 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for doing these, its good to see its still got shops despite the bypass taking all the passing traffic! I've not been there for about 8 years, but notice a lot of differences.
@philswallow
@philswallow 7 күн бұрын
Cheers Andy, the bypass still seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut!
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 7 күн бұрын
Nicely put together, it's a shame things have to change...I still haven't got over Turtles closing down in Croydon.
@philswallow
@philswallow 7 күн бұрын
Thanks - and I completely agree!
@johnstilljohn3181
@johnstilljohn3181 7 күн бұрын
Fabulous...! The stretch on the north side of the bridge has hardly changed - the other side is changed completely...! I went to the pub where Aldi is in 1981 with my first girlfriend. Before that, we used to go there with my gran on shopping trips....
@stirlingmoss4621
@stirlingmoss4621 7 күн бұрын
Spent many happy Saturday kids mornings at the Regal in the 50s & 60s watching cartoons and action/adventure movies...
@tinastone7368
@tinastone7368 7 күн бұрын
What are the original businesses from years ago if any ? My father owned the jewellers in the Brighton road . I remember crook, wimpy, pay&take, FHW , sparks , Fosters chemist , Phyllis’s , verity’s, the Ladybird shop in Chipstead valley road, Coulsdon hardware, Johnson’s hardware …. I’m sure I’ve missed plenty ! 😊
@philswallow
@philswallow 7 күн бұрын
They may be covered in some books, there are two great books covering Caterham and I know someone did something for Selsdon shops but I don’t know of anything specific for Coulsdon in terms of a full listing/history. Personally I think they should be a “thing” in every town and village!
@pooooornopigeon
@pooooornopigeon 7 күн бұрын
Friday night treat was a ' flat burger ' takeaway from Wimpys.
@adrianbanks2089
@adrianbanks2089 7 күн бұрын
Thanks For The Update ! ( I Lived In Grove Wood Hill ! New Ash Green From 1970 !😊
@pooooornopigeon
@pooooornopigeon 8 күн бұрын
COYS! 😂😂😂
@ludgang5
@ludgang5 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for this Phil, my late mum lived close by and I briefly worked in McColl’s, there was a hold up there in 2017 . There was a ver y funny lady who ran the post office called Cookie, who loved to insult all her male customers.
@anthony68
@anthony68 11 күн бұрын
Interesting video,such a shame selsdon is going downhill recently it has rapidly got worse in such a short space of time,thanks to social housing and the council
@andrewwilton5017
@andrewwilton5017 12 күн бұрын
I worked in the whitgift centre when i was 16-18 and it was meant to be torn down due to dilapidation. I am now 38 and it is still open, that doesn't seem right at all.
@fluffybadger9832
@fluffybadger9832 13 күн бұрын
We moved to Hamsey Green in 1970 & I remember exploring all around Riddlesdown, a total contrast to where we used to live in Thornton Heath. Myself & a schoolmate did get through the quarry fence once at the top, the opposite side to the path you took. it was only a chain link fence in those days with a few holes here & there. There were signs warning of crumbling rocks etc. We didn't get close to the main cliff edge, There are some shelves with lesser drops! Crossed the railway a few times. Schoolboy adventures. Then my parents got a couple of Cocker Spaniels so I would often walk them around the downs. I recall a lot of the fields were still farmed then.
@philswallow
@philswallow 13 күн бұрын
It’s very pleasant there, loads of history. I’ve still got some other things to film over there at some point!
@carolyntolson6735
@carolyntolson6735 18 күн бұрын
Just discovered this channel - great nostalgia-fest! Do you remember Moody's toyshop on the Express Dairy parade. (I was born in '57, lived Wentworth Way, and went to Atwood CP.)
@philswallow
@philswallow 17 күн бұрын
Glad you found it, Carolyn! Now you have mentioned it, I do! 😁
@botdemonitisation2527
@botdemonitisation2527 18 күн бұрын
The commentry was great mate keep it up 👍
@philswallow
@philswallow 16 күн бұрын
Thank you 👍
@AllSoConfusing
@AllSoConfusing 21 күн бұрын
The original old Fire Engine House was knocked down by the developer who didn't have permission. The developer was forced to rebuild it as close to the original as possible.
@philswallow
@philswallow 20 күн бұрын
Thanks, I did not know that. Shocking!
@youngmurphy7556
@youngmurphy7556 23 күн бұрын
I thought the "old" in Woldingham was pronounced like old in hold and told, not like the "alled" walled. Is that the local pronunciation? I'm a Lancastrian living down here in the vicinity. I want to be correct.
@philswallow
@philswallow 23 күн бұрын
Definitely “old”, that’s all I’ve ever heard in terms of pronunciation. Warlingham is nearby but that is definitely “war”!
@youngmurphy7556
@youngmurphy7556 23 күн бұрын
@philswallow But you pronounced it Walledingham several times. I thought I had it wrong. I get loads of place names in the south wrong only to be corrected later, e.g. Plaistow, Isleworth, Leigh and others.
@philswallow
@philswallow 23 күн бұрын
@youngmurphy7556 it must be the way I speak or the way it comes across. 100% “old” sound. I just repeated it to myself several times (in the safety of my home) and I am sure I am saying “Wold” but could see/hear how it could be heard as “Walled”. But to avoid any issues if you say “Wold” anywhere in this part of the country you will be spot on!
@andymcgarty3099
@andymcgarty3099 23 күн бұрын
Looks like a roe Buck to me, nice mature head. Lots of them around that patch. Although I grew up in the area I rarely ventured into the woods as was normally on my bike! Have you contacted Surrey CC to get them to clear the footpaths, especially the two fallen trees? Someone will be responsible for maintaining them, you can report them on the Surrey CC website.
@philswallow
@philswallow 23 күн бұрын
Good point Andy, I will do that, I’ve done it before on some others, cheers mate
@TheDenihunter
@TheDenihunter 25 күн бұрын
Just seen this Phil. Great job and a beautiful walk! Went metal detecting with a friend around Slines Oak Pond a very long time ago! We found musket balls embedded in? , quite remember?) and around the base of what would have been a mature tree...oak? Anyway,lol,we surmised that it could have been from the musket of a highwayman! Maybe "The" highwayman that forced the coach off the road!!?? Also, the road turn off that goes back down the hill. I'm sure there is a story of a Roman Villa on the right hand side field. I remember thinking that it would be a perfect spot for a villa as views right down the valley. Metal detected there too but don't recall finding anything. Once again! Love your videos! Cheers.
@philswallow
@philswallow 25 күн бұрын
Thanks, wow! I would love to find something like that! There have been Roman finds in many places, some coins were found in Ledger’s Road where I finished my last walk. Two villas are in the grounds of Titsey Place and a Temple in Clacket Lane just up from the service area. Not sure what might be visible though. Glad you like the videos - I have a great time making them 😊
@TheDenihunter
@TheDenihunter 26 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for your work Phil. Croydon Rd was home for me from 60's to 90's. A memory in every step you took mate. Lovely to see as an expat. So green and beautiful too. Looking forward to the next episode of the other part of the road. Up the Palace! Funnily enough had a dream about the old 'Commonwealth' pub last night!
@philswallow
@philswallow 26 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it! 😊
@astrostrotch
@astrostrotch 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for the history Phil. This brings back memories, we used to cycle from Selsdon to the White bear keeping off road as much as possible. We used to enter Holt wood through the bridleway entrance on Church lane, and immediately on the right was a strange building with an eerie presence, we never knew what it was! At the end of the bridleway we turned right on to Farleigh court road and left onto another bridleway, down into the valley and up a killer climb to Fickleshole to get our just rewards at the pub😊. Keep up the good work.
@philswallow
@philswallow 26 күн бұрын
Thanks mate, we have a lot of important history and beauty in this area, it’s great to get out and document it!
@stevetrees4272
@stevetrees4272 26 күн бұрын
Its a green woodpecker Phil...
@philswallow
@philswallow 26 күн бұрын
Oh wow, thanks Steve. The ones I see on my lawn are very quiet! 😁
@peterclark9677
@peterclark9677 26 күн бұрын
There used to be a forest commission area around there somewhere, it used to cut to back of Warlingham park hospital
@philswallow
@philswallow 26 күн бұрын
Maybe that was the Country Park - I remember visiting there for sure. But I don’t think it was there for a long time
@peterclark9677
@peterclark9677 26 күн бұрын
Great information and a lovely day. Everything is playing catch up after a wet and cold spring
@iangodden662
@iangodden662 26 күн бұрын
Very interesting
@fluffybadger9832
@fluffybadger9832 27 күн бұрын
Another great walk Phil. Don't think I've walked Henley Wood. I recall going to a paint balling place back in the early 80s, I think it was in or near Holt Wood., At that time the hospital was still open & it was visible from the battlefield 😊. I'm sure seeing loads of blokes running & shouting in camo firing paintball guns was great therapy for the inmates! Also bought a car from a chap that lived in one of the Holt wood cottages, late 70s. A Humber Sceptre. The vegetation is high everywhere around Farleigh & Chelsham, can't really carry a machete or jungle knife. though. Do sometimes take a pair of pruners.
@philswallow
@philswallow 27 күн бұрын
Thanks mate. I’m sure there was also a “Holt Wood Country Park” in the early 80s, but it didn’t seem to last long. The land around there is great and even better that it’s steeped in history.
@guyj3025
@guyj3025 25 күн бұрын
I think holt wood was one of the very first paintball sites in the UK, it was under the brand name Skirmish if I recall correctly.
@fluffybadger9832
@fluffybadger9832 25 күн бұрын
@@guyj3025 Yes Skirmish does ring a bell. It was the one & only time I did any paintballing. I do recall we only had repeating pistols & just eyeshields for face protection. One of our chaps got a pellet right on his nose which split it open. Our opponents were a bunch of security guards from Grants department store. They took it all rather more seriously than we did. All fully kiitted up in camo gear & scrim, us in jeans & trainers. Wasn't my cup of tea really.
@philswallow
@philswallow 25 күн бұрын
@fluffybadger9832 you’ve painted a picture in my mind about that setup! 😁
@Mushroom-lq7td
@Mushroom-lq7td 27 күн бұрын
Umm am I related to him because my last name is Addington
@SN-tv9eb
@SN-tv9eb 27 күн бұрын
Nice.
@declantwomey7525
@declantwomey7525 28 күн бұрын
Brilliant keep up the great work 👍🏻🏆
@philswallow
@philswallow 28 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@declantwomey7525
@declantwomey7525 28 күн бұрын
Very interesting thanks For sharing 👍🏻
@philswallow
@philswallow 28 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@peterzoeftig2513
@peterzoeftig2513 28 күн бұрын
I thought I'd leave a comment having just come across your videos, as I grew up in Croydon (Norbury) and know the area well, but long ago moved away after mum and dad passed away to rest in the Thornton Heath cemetery. Now living in the north, and I've moved around quite a bit, Marlow, Warwick, York, Ripon and now Pendle in Lancashire, but Norbury/Croydon is still "home", the family are originally from Cherry Orchard and Fulham. I used to cycle and later motorcycle to Woldingham as my sister and her family live there. Whether or not they joined any of the parties (in the 70s) you mentioned is a possibility! Seeing the Slines Oak Road pond and hearing the ghost story (which I think I heard about long ago) makes sense to me of how I slid into the pond trying to take the corner too quickly, it's a really tricky turn! If you ever consider doing a walk from Cherry Orchard to Thornton Heath and the Pond or up to Norwood Grove (a stretch from your normal routes I admit) I bet there's a lot to mention! The King William IV pub that used to be on Green Lane and where I worked behind the bar for a short while in 1977, being one such marvel.. the earliest mention of the tavern dates from March 26, 1681, when the burial of “John a lodger at the Green Man” is recorded in the Streatham parish registers, and Dick Turpin drank there it is said! Looking forward to your future videos..!
@philswallow
@philswallow 28 күн бұрын
Thanks Peter. I always look to expand beyond Croydon but keep finding lots of intersting subject matter close to home! I'm glad you have enjoyed my content and it has helped to bring back some memories.
@BenRobinson1974
@BenRobinson1974 28 күн бұрын
It is almost impossible to describe the sheer scale of the decline of Croydon in the last 30 years. I was born in Mayday hospital 50 years ago, my grandparents lived in Derby Road and I spent a great deal of my childhood there, growing up I lived in Upper Norwood so Croydon was still our closest town center. It was such a vibrant and thriving town back then, it is depressing beyond belief to go back there now. Actually upsetting.
@philswallow
@philswallow 28 күн бұрын
Spot on, Ben. Bromley managed to keep going as have many others in Greater London. Office blocks are being placed by flats all over town, that is the new skyline. Still hard to know what the future will hold. I live in hope that each year when I visit and film I will see notable improvements - we shall see . . .
@herc20000
@herc20000 2 күн бұрын
Back in the 80's, 90's, people wanted to live in Croydon, now they want to flee it :-( Bromley, still much nicer, but I can see the slow decline happening there too :-(
@gareththomas6714
@gareththomas6714 Ай бұрын
you're very lucky that someone did that book-i wish someone had in my local town
@philswallow
@philswallow Ай бұрын
Very lucky indeed, Gareth. The Bourne Society and their team are wonderful. A local resident’s group did one for Selsdon, South Croydon. It takes a lot of research but is well worth it. Local History groups are great organisations 👍🏻
@johnnybloodshoes7401
@johnnybloodshoes7401 Ай бұрын
I'm Well chuffed that you've done another video 🎉
@philswallow
@philswallow Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@davidk6271
@davidk6271 Ай бұрын
I lived in Farningham Rd for some years. Now in Tasmania. Interesting to see this. Thanks
@NextSound170
@NextSound170 Ай бұрын
All ran to G’day land
@pooooornopigeon
@pooooornopigeon 8 күн бұрын
" Hobart Tasmania, that's my wonderful townnnnnnn " 😊
@geoffsclassiccars
@geoffsclassiccars Ай бұрын
The blue building @2.20 used to be u2 body panels. That one is quite unique with the white bricks which im pretty sure were sourced from devon
@philswallow
@philswallow Ай бұрын
Thanks Geoff!
@alethiastone9091
@alethiastone9091 Ай бұрын
The cinerma the capital. The
@andymcgarty3099
@andymcgarty3099 Ай бұрын
Great to see the eye sore that was Rose And Young garage has finally been removed. Never ventured to Caterham as a kid as no buses! Nice to see my accountants are still there :) Great video.
@philswallow
@philswallow Ай бұрын
It was a nice building design but that doesn’t count for much nowadays. Cheers mate 👍🏻