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@OSborneCox Ай бұрын
Because analyzing and writing music are different skills, and they chose to focus on the former for their careers
@weeklycrushinggrntd Ай бұрын
5 years after you posted this: how do you feel about your experience w ramsa overall? Did you have a console or just the pres? I’m considering getting one and there’s just so little information out there about them
@GeoffBosco 28 күн бұрын
Sorry for the delayed response. I had a console. A WRS. It has a nice sound to it. But the pres are just ok. I ended up upgrading to a Midas Venice U32. It has the same kind of warmth as the Ramsa, but the pres are on the same level as Audient. They can be clean and prestige to dirty and beautifully overdriven. I did a video recently a/bing a mix through it vs an itb mix. Just look through my recent vids to find it.
@ViolenDarkstalker 2 ай бұрын
Is this modification still holding up? Thanks!
@GeoffBosco 2 ай бұрын
Sorry for the late reply. I actually made some adjustments to this mod that works better. I basically did the same thing but used a stiffer kind of foam. I forget what it's called. But it's the same foam that those interlinking foam mats are made of.
@BethHamon 2 ай бұрын
LOVE this! I have one of these and it’s my go-to metal snare drum for my kit. I found mine for $50 shipped online and was shocked by how good it sounded.
@GeoffBosco 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. From what I have learned since making this video, it is a steel snare, but it's coated with a layer of aluminum. And I think even at that thin of a layer, it does give it some aluminum snare-like qualities.
@BeanigeBean 2 ай бұрын
Kinda creepy
@GeoffBosco 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's almost like there's more people singing along
@josephfisher9043 2 ай бұрын
Some guy on the top floor is wondering why his floor is shaking and his stairs are singing 😂😂
@GeoffBosco 2 ай бұрын
Thus was after normal business hours. 🤣 I'm way too self-concious to do something like this in a building full of people.
@stevenrayphoto1280 3 ай бұрын
Vocals sound better in the box and it has more 3D sound over all compared to the Midas. The panning and reverb are very different so it's difficult to compare. Both sound great!
@GeoffBosco 2 ай бұрын
I'll have to go back and listen to try and hear what you're hearing. My ears definitely need more training. Thanks for the complimentary words!
@ernestomekam9402 Ай бұрын
Hell no the analog has more depth more in your face more saturation more gritz to it it's like night and day man period.@@GeoffBosco
@uketubetv4696 3 ай бұрын
Yes, the Tama’s on MP have a clear iconic sound and are best. But the Luds, especially on HYF and Counterparts, were special.
@theCarouselPainter 3 ай бұрын
You're the only one who's done a real good job at hybrid mixing on this console on youtube, how many tracks did you sum on this board ?
@theCarouselPainter 3 ай бұрын
Ho and question, i thought about getting a Motu 24/8 the older version, and plug it in my focusrite 18i20 3rd gen through ADAT, do you think it can work ? How many of these can you stack up together ?
@GeoffBosco 3 ай бұрын
Hey, thank you! I used all 24 mono tracks and two of the stereo tracks. I'll probably bus more tracks together on my next mix. I'm not sure about the 24/8 question. I don't know much about those units.
@theCarouselPainter 3 ай бұрын
@@GeoffBosco Thanks for the answer, gave up on the motu idea, i am about to get a Midas Siena 480 and a midas DL32 as a converter !
@mersa12 3 ай бұрын
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@HarryWebb46 3 ай бұрын
Gin Blossoms were surely half grunge?
@HeartDrumMachine 4 ай бұрын
Hi, why so difirents on vocal volume on a/b test? Thank you for video!
@GeoffBosco 4 ай бұрын
Probably because I was rushing through the itb mix out excitement to get this video finished and uploaded. 🤣
@tmewborn1 5 ай бұрын
Why not share an image or 2 if so happy with it????????
@GeoffBosco 3 ай бұрын
I think I didn't know an easy way to that when I made this video. I was probably editing on Linux open source editors back then. And pulling my hair out just to make simple videos. Lol
@danielabilez3619 5 ай бұрын
Your sample lacks clarity and isolation. Maybe it's just me. I am interested. Just cannot hear it.
@georgesmart413 5 ай бұрын
Tama
@EllieMcEla 5 ай бұрын
led zeppelin didn't invent shit, they just stole black peoples' music
@apieceofdirt4681 5 ай бұрын
I love the sound of every one of Neil’s Ludwig kits. I loved the sound so much that I had a Counterparts kit replica that I still use today. I put some money into my kit because my 5 1/2 x 6” and 5 1/2 x 8” closed toms were not a popular item. I bought 2 of each 6” and 8” because I wanted to have a backup due to Ludwig phasing out those shells. I also bought 2 Tama 24” (not 22”) Tama gong bass drums and had them painted to match the rest of the kit. About a year later Ludwig started really getting into the hoops to get rid of the old way of mounting the drums and was able to get them for my 6” and 8” drums. I did end up getting the entire kit Vibra-Fibed. It really helped the drums project more. Anyway, Neil’s Ludwig’s by far are my absolute favorite???
@GeoffBosco 5 ай бұрын
Whoa! If you're anywhere near New England, I'd love a chance to record your kit.
@joewilkie 6 ай бұрын
I'm hearing stronger, punchier mids on the console. Similar to my own experience mixing in my DAW vs. mixing on two separate hardware (but digital) mixers - Allen and Heath Qu16 and through the MOTU mixer that's built into their AVB interfaces. I'm not sure why it "feels" so different, and there's no shortage of amazing-sounding "in the box" mixes, but this is a stark difference. Recently I've switched to only using the DAW as a record/playback system. Thanks for the video - enjoyed listening to your mix decisions in real time. My skills are a WIP and this is helpful!
@GeoffBosco 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this. It's a real encouragement. I've been working on a short film project lately so I've been neglecting my channel lately. But, I'll try t9 keep posting even as I'm stressing about my movie. Lol
@joewilkie 6 ай бұрын
Cool video- thanks for making this! I've been using MOTU AVB interfaces since last October and have gone from hopeful but skeptical to very happy with their system. The modular approach is what sold me. I keep an 8M (8 x 8 interface + ADAT) in a 6U rack with my guitar processor which also processes my band's vocal effects. When I need to rehearse with the band, I carry that rack to our rehearsal room and connect via ethernet to the AVB switch, which adds a B16 (16 x 8) stage box. When we gig, we connect a 24Ao to the switch and place it right next to the house stage box via 3x DB25-XLR breakout cables. When I'm not rehearsing or gigging, the 6U rack goes to my comfortable play/mix room, to a friend's house, on a road trip... 3 MOTU interfaces, each in separate racks creates a very flexible system, and we never need to worry about long, expensive snakes, since l all it needs is very inexpensive ethernet cable. Looking forward to hearing your comparison of analog vs. in the box mixes!
@andreasargenti6315 6 ай бұрын
When the F series came out a friend of mine said he heard the sound of it and wasn't impressed, didn't like the eq and so on...well, I guess he was wrong this is clear, thanks for this video! From what I learned the pres and the summing are not different from the U series so...despite I could get an xl200, xl3 or even an audient aztec for reasonably chip money, those are really big and heavy and I think I'll go one for the f or u instead.
@GeoffBosco 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure people who have worked on the big boy consoles (SSL, API, Neve) might have legit beefs with the EQs. But, for what these go for in comparison, it's hard for me to say boo. 😅
@Fagleboo 6 ай бұрын
Sounds nice! Actually using a well recorded good song is so important. There are waay too many videos of people showing off gear with trash recordings, which they then rip into with unmusical, uneducated mixing. This really shows the mixer in a true musical context
@Garflips 6 ай бұрын
Guess there just aren't that many of us Speeddrum users... Cool kit - appreciate the upload. I noticed that there is some dropout occasionally and I believe it's because of the numbers you used for the velocity layers. When I let Speeddrum automatically distribute/split the layers in a "fall" for example (it's in the menu to the left of the velocity bars) then look at the numbers in the top info bar, it turns out that the max velocity crossover number of a layer should be the same number as the starting number for the next layer above. I believe you were using the next value - which would seem to make sense - but actually that leaves a gap. Cheers!
@GeoffBosco 5 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks for the info! Sorry for the delayed response.
@placeoflace 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the lesson. the multiple camera setup really helped. Great job.
@GeoffBosco 6 ай бұрын
You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it!
@RPMusicStudios 6 ай бұрын
I love the excitement! Have fun!
@GeoffBosco 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! It's really fun,l. I just need more stuff to work on.
@paulcaruana4090 7 ай бұрын
Live the time machine and r40 were the most resonate
@Beaches_south_of_L.A. 7 ай бұрын
The most worthless bit of information.
@GeoffBosco 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@brentharmonmusicproduction 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I had the Motu 24ao and 24AI and 16a running through AVB switches. I found it a PIA to program.
@HazeAnderson 7 ай бұрын
Good job! 😄
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😄 I already have that mix done and a video coming about it. I'll be A/B-ing the console and the ITB versions.
@HazeAnderson 7 ай бұрын
@@GeoffBosco woo hoo looking forward to it! 😄
@KurtTischer 7 ай бұрын
I was gonna say. You got a typo in the video title aka MOTU not MOUT
@HazeAnderson 7 ай бұрын
Mark of the Unicorn is da BOMB! 😆💥
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
Whoops! I was in a hurry to finish getting this up to go on a work call. Thanks
@kellywendlandt3940 7 ай бұрын
Geoff, is that you singing? The mix is absolutely killer. Great singing and playing go a long way of course, but you can't get the analogue sound without the board.
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
Oh, God! I wish I could sing like that. No this is a song by Steve Maggiora. He plays in Toto's touring band. Yeah, the board definitely gives a warmth and dimension you can't get with plug-ins. I have a video demo of a new mix coming soon that will show that. I did a completely analog summed and an ITB version for comparison.
@kellywendlandt3940 7 ай бұрын
Cool-thanks for putting these out @@GeoffBosco
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
@kellywendlandt3940 Thank you for the positive feedback. I would put out more but it's hard for these kinds of videos to get any traction for a complete music biz outsider like myself. But, your engagement is a huge help!
@ricbyer3603 7 ай бұрын
A few questions, what are the tunings on the batter and resonance heads? What beater are you using? you've nailed the bass drum sound I've been looking for!!
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
Hey thanks! Yeah, getting that sound took me a long time to figure out. I'm not sure you can get it with modern kicks. But, 14" depths are also a huge part of it. As for my toms, I'm not sure off the top of my head. But, they are tuned pretty high with both heads even. But, the close sounds you're hearing are samples I made of those toms in that room.
@SionedWillicombe 7 ай бұрын
Sounds great, whats the shell thickness, can't find much info online..some say 2mm
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
I think that figure is correct. The shell is thicker than a lot of AL shelled snares.
@matthewneesley761 8 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY “Show of Hands”…hands-down 😊
@Neil-pv8pw 8 ай бұрын
I saw rush in early 80s moving pictures tour, and they weren’t very good live mostly a studio band. But I had seen the who and dire straits, police, buddy rich and Lonnie doneghan. So a tough acts to follow
@scottarnest8980 8 ай бұрын
I have a 4 ply kit bought in 89. All because of Neil. Of course it's white.
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
If you're anywhere near the New England area, I'd love to have you come over so I could get some recordings of it!
@davebasch5995 8 ай бұрын
As awesome as Neil thought his DW kits were, I never thought they sounded very good compared to Tama and Ludwig eras. Maybe it was the engineers
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, getting a great drum sound on record has so many variables. Even the best sounding kit ever made in the wrong room with a great engineer, will make it a tough job.
@davebasch5995 7 ай бұрын
@@GeoffBosco I live 10 minutes from DW and saw NP R40 kit there!
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
@@davebasch5995 That's awesome!
@8xtime 8 ай бұрын
Im going back to the slingerlands with evans hydraulics
@RockOn78 8 ай бұрын
No one will agree…but Bones / Counterparts era had best sound
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I actually think the best the Ludwigs sounded was on Presto. But, even saying that, there is an overly bright big 80s dated-ness to it that keeps it out of the "Iconic" realm.
@dougayers8222 8 ай бұрын
His swingerland set
@shanelewis961 8 ай бұрын
Yeah…Moving Pictures…!!! 🎉
@WalterBlomquist 8 ай бұрын
Presto
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
That's as close as the Ludwig kits get to iconic drum sounds. But it's still a little dated of sound imo.
@douggroulx1525 8 ай бұрын
In my humble opinion, Counterparts has the best drum production,and I know it’s not considered a classic Rush album. And that is just an opinion, I understand It’s a very subjective subject.
@GeoffBosco 7 ай бұрын
You are far from alone. It's personally not my favorite sound. Caveman seemed to be going after the Nevermind sound which I was never crazy about.
@MrGroovehound 8 ай бұрын
Not the DW’s they’re Da Worst
@vershaladyn 8 ай бұрын
I thought they came close in the studio with Presto- which was the same Ludwig kit as ASoH. I still think it was the best.
@GeoffBosco 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I definitely agree that Presto came the closest. But the overall sound is just a tiny bit too clinical, bright, and dated for me to hold it up as Iconic.
@stevebarrios-oq3xo 8 ай бұрын
That's my best sound the rosewood❤❤❤
@matthewotremba9230 8 ай бұрын
Got me a vintage set of TAMAs With Zolacoat interiors The Engineered Coating , is to Improve and enhance sound and Reflection ! Normalizing the interior , instead of different open grains and wood hardness or softness , which , of course reflects sound differently from untreated interiors . Meanwhile , Vintage Ludwigs , were just painted inside , rather horribly i might add Yes , to cover shite plies Sheeeesh , where did you get your misguided knowledge
@GeoffBosco 8 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but how does anything you just wrote contradict anything I said?
@matthewotremba9230 8 ай бұрын
@@GeoffBosco peace Maybe I did not listen well At 61 , I have seen SOOOOO much Misinformation out there And folks with magazine smarts ROCK ON MAN
@matthewotremba9230 8 ай бұрын
@@GeoffBosco had all Tamas in my 8 room Rehearsal buizz 4 vintage kits of diff degrees (swing to superstar) Even the swing stars are awesome I tried Ludwig's , and the hardware would fail Some crafty guys would bring pliers to keep them in place An ongoing nightmare Then some foreigner would come in and say Your drums are shit , I only play DWs Well , my buddy that also owned a rehearsal place Had DWs , and and Sonar's ,and ....had to disassemble monthly and tighten all lugs And rig failing hardware DWs are way overated ! Tama , did things correct !
@pje3325 8 ай бұрын
Always loved the sound from the live “Show of Hands”. The resonance was so cool!
@mjm5081 8 ай бұрын
Love that Tama kit! But my fave is the Ludwig shown in the video. Those toms just sing!!! 🙏❤🌹 Neil 🌹❤🙏
@GeoffBosco 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@mjm5081 8 ай бұрын
@@GeoffBosco 😃 👍 👊
@jasonmancuso7206 8 ай бұрын
I love the Old School Drum Sets and have seen many different Live Shows but for some reason, I really enjoyed the Roland V Drums with all the accoutrements. Everyone has their own taste, so I enjoyed reading the Comments. The Sound made by the 3 Amazing Musicians were in a word-Perfect.
@jasonmancuso7206 8 ай бұрын
Especially at The Snakes and Arrows tour in 2008 where I saw the band 6 different times. Each time was better than the last but being a NYer, seeing them at MSG The Mecca...was Truly Astounding.
@GeoffBosco 8 ай бұрын
Saw Snakes and Arrows at Mohegan Sun. The SaA DVD drum sounds were fantastic, BTW.
@jasonmancuso7206 8 ай бұрын
@GeoffBosco I was there...Unreal!
@robinchambers4270 8 ай бұрын
I love the sound of Neil's slingerlands on farewell to kings and hemispheres
@davisdeluca4324 8 ай бұрын
I agree bro!!!👍
@GeoffBosco 8 ай бұрын
Completely not my style. But to each his own.
@rellis3940 8 ай бұрын
Ditto on that as well. But TAMA was the best sounding kit. And TAMA is my opinion the best drums and there craftsmanship is second to none. Alot different characters and choices nowadays.