eion Tip.wir wissen von Ionenantrieben das plasma sich bevorzugt zu magneten hingezogen fühlt.heisst,wenn du über dem ding am alu ein kleines magnet anbringst wird das plasma das magnetfeld finden und du kannst es glaub noch höher hängen.
@marvswelt25878 сағат бұрын
@@Chefchen21 hehe danke😄
@marvswelt25878 сағат бұрын
@@Chefchen21 interessant🤔 müsste ich mal ausprobieren!
@Chefchen217 сағат бұрын
@ oder mal einen lautsprecher an die decke nach unten gerichtet.sound sind ja auch magnetische wellen,die dann nach unten gesendet werden und das dürfte doch auch wie eine treppe für das plasma sein.zumal ja musik unterschiedliche frequnezen hat tanzt vielleicht das plasma nach der musik die von oben kommt. wenn di durch die alufolie oeben eine kleine spannung fliessen lässt,also zwischen plus mit batterie und glühbirne wird das Alu noch attraktiver fürs plasma weil ein Strom fliesst.
@Chefchen217 сағат бұрын
oder ganz krass,du baust dir einen helmholtzcoil und montierst den horizontal um deinen teslakopf so,das der blitz genau da ist wo in einem helmholtzcoil halt die mitte ist. mit helmholtzcoils kann man ja etwas an einem punkt berührungslos fixieren. also mal den Plasmaüberschlag in einem etwas grösse geratenen helmholtzcoil fixieren.
@freedomer3429 сағат бұрын
ok so wireless electricity the way that you was doing it is complete garbage no offense. And thats because its not ment to send it via the air. The magnetic field only goes so far so it needs to be pumped into the ground. That "small" electricity that you saw that wasnt shocking you is the cold electricity. You can put a rod down the center of the secondary change the position of your magnetic field. another works your current field has a dialectical spot in the center of it and the magnetic field going outwards. You actually want to change that and get something equivalent to Tesla's Hairpin circuit, but with the Tesla coil.To do so, a rod must be placed down the center. It can also be a florescent tube, just something conductive and then pull your power from that so your not having a direct load on your Tesla coil which will prevent your from puling more power. Then the fun begins.
@marvswelt25878 сағат бұрын
@@freedomer342 ah ok, thanks for the Information! I will check that out when i have time✌️
@marvswelt25878 сағат бұрын
@@freedomer342 hehe danke😄
@freedomer3427 сағат бұрын
@@marvswelt2587 do some research on Teslas Hairpin circuit. You can do the same thing with the Tesla coil.
@marvswelt25876 сағат бұрын
@freedomer342 i will do that🙂
@benjaminlockhart9911 сағат бұрын
Great work, I suggest trying a larger topload to reduce the effects of arcs pulling the secondary out of tune.
@marvswelt258711 сағат бұрын
@@benjaminlockhart99 thanks🙂 Yes, i was trying different DIY toploads, but they didnt work that great. Now the topload is 40×160mm I think a slightly bigger and well made topload like 50×200mm should be good.
@Jonodrew128612 сағат бұрын
Awesome build - very cool, you must be on or approaching a max output - 👌 I wonder if also humidity plays a part in your different out put characteristics 🧐
@marvswelt258712 сағат бұрын
@@Jonodrew1286 thanks mate🙂 Yes im now absolutely aiming on the biggest output possible in this "small" application. The humidity/temperature/pressure of the air plays actually a role into that! Because this changes actively the load on the secondary coil. Now in this video, the air is more dry than the days before. In that case, the topload and arcs do load down the secondary less, than before.. so i have to retune the primary circuit just a littlebit to a higher resonance frequency.. A good indicator for that was also that the coil was running just smoother with the double breakout, because the two big arcs plus longer electrode load the secondary down a bit more (Just my theory in my head, but makes just sense to me)
@marvswelt258712 сағат бұрын
@@Jonodrew1286 also i think, that changes of the air humidity can change the forming of the arcs a littlebit
@Jonodrew128612 сағат бұрын
@@marvswelt2587 What input voltage are you using - must be 30 odd amps?
@marvswelt258712 сағат бұрын
@Jonodrew1286 i drive the MOT's also on the primary in series with 2 phases 400v So im capable to push 8kw. But i dont know, what the MOT's actually draw... maybe 3-4kw🤷♂️ didnt measured it
@Jonodrew128611 сағат бұрын
@ i have connected them backwards to measure the ratio /output voltage - its quite a factor
@clintmichigan911220 сағат бұрын
Ozone? Can i also suggest a fire blanket and fire extinguisher.....just to n case.
@marvswelt258720 сағат бұрын
@@clintmichigan9112 had all my Windows open to get rid of all that ozone and other byproducts of the arcs
@slaquers23 сағат бұрын
wow!!
@SINHRO-FAZA23 сағат бұрын
Это уже даже страшно, были бы интересны замеры потребляемой мощности (или вывести отдельный амперметр, и параллельно с образованием дуги, попадать краем кадра на амперметр.)
@marvswelt258722 сағат бұрын
@SINHRO-FAZA for me its only possible to measure the current draw from the MOT's. Yeah an analog amperemeter would be awesome!
@FriedrichEaintein-c1nКүн бұрын
This setup is more comfortable than the other. Congratulations.
@FriedrichEaintein-c1nКүн бұрын
Sometimes the arc hitting the target tin foil... Impressive and funny experiment. :)!
@marvswelt258722 сағат бұрын
@FriedrichEaintein-c1n Thanks!🙂
@egg99Күн бұрын
👍 wie laut ist es?
@marvswelt2587Күн бұрын
@@egg99 garnicht so sehr.. ungefähr als würde man etwas kräftiger auf ein Kopfkissen hauen.
@egg9911 сағат бұрын
@@marvswelt2587 liegt das an interruption oder was anderem? Ich habe vor etwa einem Jahr eine sstc gebaut, und sie war wirklich extrem laut.
@marvswelt258711 сағат бұрын
@egg99 es kommt auf die beschaltung an. SSTC's gibt es sehr viele unterschiedliche. Ich glaube dass tesla spule die mit "mains ramping" arbeiten, sind die leisesten, weil sich die entladung bzw. Der Blitz langsam mit der ansteigenden sinushalbwelle der spannungsversorgung bildet und größer wird, und nicht plötzlich mit voller Power entsteht.
@edgarw5919Күн бұрын
How could Tesla sit on a chair among the spark inferno and not being hurt, is this ground current safe for us, in which frequency range???
@marvswelt258722 сағат бұрын
@edgarw5919 No it is definitely not save! Tesla would had some Tricks.
@edgarw5919Күн бұрын
the tesla coil receiver must have the same resonant circuit, depending how much capacitance is being used.
@edgarw5919Күн бұрын
if you use a Neon tube of this tube lengths you can see the plasma standing wave bubbles, when the frequency is being changed. The standing wave bubbles are showing the wave lengths
@marvswelt258722 сағат бұрын
@edgarw5919 Yes that would possible. And really cool😃 But my wavelenght is almost 300meters long 🤔 But probably some harmonics can be seen.
@bassmaster9781Күн бұрын
Nice! Did you experiment with a flat pancake primary coil?
@marvswelt2587Күн бұрын
@@bassmaster9781 thanks🙂 No not at this coil. But this would not work properly, because of the very low coupling to the secondary coil. Vacuum Tube Tesla Coils need a really strong coupling betwen primary and secondary for maximum energy transfer🙂
@edgarw5919Күн бұрын
Tig welding wolfram sticks, rhodium coded for spark discharge point . let the discharge spark turn at the top.
@marvswelt2587Күн бұрын
@@edgarw5919 i actually have some tungsten TIG welding sticks! But not rhodium coated... but I will try it anyway😁
@odincauzza2509Күн бұрын
An interesting thing to try would be burning a red road flare outside upwind of it, so that the arcs travel through the smoke and maybe change color along their whole length. I'm not sure if that's possible, though, since you'd have to assemble and operate the coil outside. A very fine saltwater mist (like from a humidifier or something) might work inside, except that has a risk of contaminating the electronics.
@marvswelt2587Күн бұрын
@@odincauzza2509 haha crazy cool idea with the flare!😃 Unfortunately its not possible for me here in the city🙄 That saltwater would be too hard on my copper/aluminium parts, sorry😬
@edgarw5919Күн бұрын
Increase the ground cable gauge to the input of your secondary output will be bigger.
@marvswelt2587Күн бұрын
@@edgarw5919 actually not🙂 everything is gronded properly already.
@edgarw5919Күн бұрын
also, a water glass construct capacitor, water has a much higher dielectric than plastic. = @ 80:1.
@edgarw5919Күн бұрын
Layden jars would be easier to build and adjustable for research work.
@marvswelt258720 сағат бұрын
@edgarw5919 But i would need hundreds of them to reach a usable capacitance😉
@edgarw5919Күн бұрын
In the early days of radio capacitor construct research work, they discovered that plate capacitor produces the sound of the tone frequency! So, they rolled it to a cylinder and the sound was gone.
@edgarw5919Күн бұрын
What always interest's me is, should the weight of the copper in primary and secondary coils be the same?
@marvswelt2587Күн бұрын
@@edgarw5919 no, the weight depends of how much Material is needed, or Just used. And that depends on what your tubes impedance, power supply impedance, resonance frequency, primary diameter, cablediameter and avaiable primary capacitors are🙂
@redloki_53Күн бұрын
😮, a Faraday cage would possibly protect your electronics (copper mesh) I would be interested in the effect of a Chladni Plate (pattern) configuration through your output (modulated) possibly with salt instead of sand etc... ❄️🔉
@marvswelt2587Күн бұрын
@@redloki_53 yes, i think it is getting time for a faraday cage😅 but this is not that easy in my room. I have actually no big problems with electronics. Only with my Smartphone, when i'm really close. Also the W-LAN data rate is a bit less while running the coil. With my SGTC i had actually really worse problems, but not with my VTTC. Interesting idea with the modulated pattern! Unfortunately i would have to make quite some changes, to do some (really good) audio modulations with that coil. i want to do that too and it got requested a lot😀 I need some time for that (and money) to build one. But i will make that in the future🙂
@redloki_53Күн бұрын
@ effects of some of this specific patterns would have possible astounding properties . Interesting also would be the effect of a fast rotating (output) Antenna.🙂 🤞🏼
@marvswelt2587Күн бұрын
@@redloki_53 yes, i want to try a ion rotor too, but everytime it dont want to turn because its too heavy, or it is just melting in seconds because its too thin wire😅
@redloki_5314 сағат бұрын
@@marvswelt2587 maybe you can find some pneumatic Solution 🙂
@KangsteriКүн бұрын
Cool demo. Thanks. Would be interesting to see some air pressure, temperature and humidity tests and readings. Seems like it's hard to replicate many HV effects properly, cause it's so sensitive to the air.
@marvswelt2587Күн бұрын
@@Kangsteri thanks too🙂 Unfortunately i have nothing to measure the exact humidity and pressure of the air... but yeah probably in the future😁 I found out, that in the last 2 days, it was very foggy outside.. In that time, the coil was running a bit better.. Also the arcs got straighter with the double electrode. So i think today the air is more dry, and my secondary coil has a bit higher frequency because of less loaddown. When i add the long double electrode, maybe i load the secondary a bit more.
@thomasgodwin3184Күн бұрын
Good job man, I’m just getting into this and learning about it and building one, your channel is helping me understand thanks keep it up
@marvswelt2587Күн бұрын
@@thomasgodwin3184 thanks for the feedback! Nice to hear that🙂 What type of tube do you want to use? Or do you want to build a SGTC?
@thomasgodwin318411 сағат бұрын
@ I’m not sure I was thinking ABS pipe or PVC pipe what would u recommend?
@marvswelt258711 сағат бұрын
@thomasgodwin3184 i actually have no exact answer to this when im honest🤔 Im using wastewater tubes, the are called here in germany "HT Rohr" and the material is polypropylen. I read many times that PVC tubes just work fine too.. When you work with extremely high frequencys, or Just have the materials laying around, cardboard tubing, glass or ceramic are really good i heard.
@thomasgodwin318411 сағат бұрын
@ I think I’ll do the polypropylene pipe for now until I find some glass or ceramic for the primary coil does it matter how far away it is from the secondary?
@marvswelt258710 сағат бұрын
@@thomasgodwin3184 the primary pipe Material is not that important. It is more important on the secondary (the long one). Yes the distance and height of the primary to the secondary is one of the most important things! This is known of "coupling". Especially At VTTC's (especially low power VTTC's) you have to try to get a really high coupling, that means you want to have the primary as close as you can to the secondary, and really high. But with a strong coupled primary, there is also a really high risk for arcing betwen the coils. So in reality you want to find the ideal Spot, where you not have any arcing but also have the highest coupling you can acchieve.
@flirtwithapokerfaceКүн бұрын
I enjoy ur content! Keep up the amazing work just PLEASE B CAREFUL!!! 🙏
@T2D.SteveArcsКүн бұрын
😎👍👍👍
@LutzSchafer2 күн бұрын
Gute Resultate aber geringer Wirkungsgrad. Warum hast Du Steuer und Schirmgitter verbunden?
@marvswelt25872 күн бұрын
@LutzSchafer Danke. Naja über den Wirkungsgrad bei z.b. einer SGTC braucht man auch garnicht erst anfangen zu reden😅 In meinem fall dient mir die verschaltung der pentode als triode, der Vereinfachung des ganzen. Der Oszillator verhält sich deutlich klarer/stabiler und weniger anfällig für unerwünschtes schwingen. Im "trioden" Betrieb weist die röhre weniger gain auf und lässt sich definierter mit einem kräftigen Signal aussteuern.
@Sir-Dexter2 күн бұрын
nice build nice tubes
@marvswelt25872 күн бұрын
@@Sir-Dexter thanks 🙂
@pelos69452 күн бұрын
what lightbultds you are using ?
@marvswelt25872 күн бұрын
@pelos6945 for the feedback circuit? Im using 3 75w 230v halogen bulbs in parallel = 225w I have some normal lightbulbs too, but These actually behaved very different🤔 And at my older Videos im using resistors
@beatbuzzergebastel2 күн бұрын
Geniale Idee! Wenn ich die früher mal gehabt hätte, als ich noch mit Gurkengläsern und Salzwasser (Leydener Flasche) rumgemacht habe😂
@marvswelt25872 күн бұрын
@@beatbuzzergebastel haha ja an dem punkt war ich auch mal😅 Ich weiß noch, als ich für meine damalige große SGTC den kondensator für den primärschwingkreis aus Leydener Flaschen gebaut hab😆 ich glaub das waren 28 1liter glasflaschen😅 klappte tatsächlich ganz gut. Aber Das könnte man mit diesem kondensator nicht machen. Die koronaentladungen würden die Klarsichtfolie in 2 Minuten weggefressen haben.
@jonschick2 күн бұрын
That is just nuts! I’d love to have one and take it outside at night for the neighbors to see! 😅
@marvswelt25872 күн бұрын
@@jonschick oh yeah i wish i would have a garden to do that😄
@ashercorbett80892 күн бұрын
This sounds like rush E from a Tesla coil
@marvswelt25872 күн бұрын
@@ashercorbett8089 what do you mean with "rush E" ?
@ashercorbett80892 күн бұрын
@ yk the insanely hard song on piano 😂 look it up it’s funny
@marvswelt25872 күн бұрын
@ashercorbett8089 ufff oh yeah thats crazy😄 now i know what you mean😄
@ashercorbett80892 күн бұрын
@ lol
@FriedrichEaintein-c1n3 күн бұрын
Interesting tune!
@sweetdragon360673 күн бұрын
Incredible power with those tubes: not sure how many transistors would be needed for such powerful amplification. Insane power!!!!
@marvswelt25873 күн бұрын
@@sweetdragon36067 The technology at the modern QCWSSTC's is actually a massive difference! With the right build, they acchieve arcs 10 times longer than the secondary coil..sometimes even longer! (Over 3 meter) Here in my case i have now about 90cm, sometimes a bit higher... for sure, for just 2 gu81m tubes it is good, but not near of the peak Power of a modern SSTC. Downsite of such a SSTC is the complexity, cost and the transistors can die instantly by the smallest failure. VTTC's are much cheaper, "simple" and tubes can handle sometimes up to 3 times of their powerrating for short duration🙂 Thanks🙂🙌
@sweetdragon360673 күн бұрын
@@marvswelt2587 Thanks. My dad became a TV repairman in the early 1950's and remember all the radio's and TV's had huge tubes before the transistor was used in them. They had ridiculously more power(amplification) than a transistor. Good to see they are still being used. I'm really interested in zero point power, but doubt I will live to see the use. Thanks for the info.
@marvswelt25873 күн бұрын
@sweetdragon36067 oh these are beautiful memories i bet🙂 For me, tubes had something magical since i was a little kid.. and still today its the same. I can understand that they are outdated in the most applications today,.. but for some specific things, they are still today indispensable😀 I love them especially in guitar/bass amplifiers and audio amplification.
@sweetdragon360672 күн бұрын
@@marvswelt2587 True. Fender Twin Reverb had incredible power and clarity. Great memories.
@marvswelt25872 күн бұрын
@sweetdragon36067 yes, i personally like the dynamics from tube guitar amps. The transition from clean to compressed crunch Sound, just with picking dynamic feels way smoother than the most Transistor based amps ive played. Also that sweet singing compressed clean Sound feels just really good🙂
@jonlitchfield88883 күн бұрын
Nice quick vid. I collected almost 40 of these lol. I ended up being made to have a thin out but of course kept all the old style ones, huge, powerful and actual copper. The output of even 4-6 is fearsome, isnt it? The newer med sized ones were easy to find 2 or more with identical cores. I cut the welds, whacked apart, remove coils, rough core cleanup, quick spray of bare cut with polyurethane, conformal coating etc to insulate, delaminate everything, and when decided what i want(always highest voltage possible and then some😅) reassemble both cores into 2 secondaries and homespun primary e legs to e legs, and i bits to join e - as normal. Kick butt transformer, and when it burns,melts,shorts,arcs over etc, its easy to take apart. The only thing is make sure both originals have the holes in the corners for reclamping together, drilling that silicon steel is really hard and sucks. Thats a nice tidy looking coil i glimpsed on this vid!!!
@marvswelt25873 күн бұрын
@@jonlitchfield8888 thats a cool idea! I thought about that once...but the cores of these transformers are just so bad, i just use them like they are, and when they die, they die...dont want to spend too much time on them😄 Im searching actually for a bigger transformer, but cant find anything with 3kv voltage. . I think i have to build myself one, soon or later. Thanks🙌🙂
@charlesurrea14513 күн бұрын
A little bit of air might help in feeding the foil into the sheet protectors. Perhaps use a vacuum bag for the compression? Plate slap, similar to coil slap.
@IanDarley4 күн бұрын
From the reading that I did twenty years ago or so; maximum energy transfer is available without streamer breakout. This requires a much larger toroid and no breakout point.
@marvswelt25873 күн бұрын
@IanDarley The toroid have just a littlebit bigger, to get the right tuning without Streamer breakout. But yes thats right, the most energy goes into the arc in my case.
@egg994 күн бұрын
krass
@arneminderman37704 күн бұрын
Wooow!❤❤
4 күн бұрын
I am in awe 😮..... The power and the beauty 😍❤️😊
@cpunut4 күн бұрын
Vacuum tube Tesla Coils have the coolest spark characteristics. Good work and I like your nice low impedance wiring 👍😎
@marvswelt25874 күн бұрын
@@cpunut oh yes🙂 thanks!
@SkypowerwithKarl4 күн бұрын
Your in what appears to be a wooden attic. Do you have any neighbors nearby? Is that Tesla making any interference? If so you might want to find a metal structure.
@marvswelt25874 күн бұрын
@@SkypowerwithKarl yes i have neighbours living nearby. This coil producing for sure interferences, but more in the spectrum of its own resonance frequency.. In comparison, a spark gap tesla coil would have much more weird harmonic frequencys and can really badly interfere with TV and W-LAN. I have actually no problems with that. I hear music over my Smartphone connected with W-LAN while im testing my coil😄 But i think (didnt tested it yet) it will heavily interfere with analog Radio at LW. For sure i would be much better to build a faraday cage, to reduce the possibility to stress some people out with humming on their radios😅
@SkypowerwithKarl4 күн бұрын
@ Over fifty years ago, a friend was playing with a huge Tesla in his basement. I had just been watching him for a while when I went home. About a mile away I spotted some blue vans with strange domes on top driving around. I made a quick stop at another friend’s house and called the first guy to tell him to knock it off. I’m figuring that he was making a lot of harmonic interference. Probably the only thing that saved him from pinpointing his location was his signal was overloading the searchers when they got close. By the way the second guy’s tv was unwatchable 😝 It’s a good idea keep metal in the vicinity away to help reduce harmonics/radiating elements or be in a Faraday cage. Have fun and be careful
@marvswelt25874 күн бұрын
@Skypowerwithkarl Haha, yeah thats actually something, im a bit nervous about😅 Especially because i Experiment almost everyday now for about 1 month with that thing😅
@TriunfoGim4 күн бұрын
Just make an oiled paper capacitor like in the old school. You can make a paraffined paper capacitor too (Tesla style). Add some liquified paraffin on both layers of a paper sheet. Then, when it solidifies, use an iron to add the aluminum film (it will be 'glued' to the paper due to the paraffin). These kinds of capacitors are ideal for very high voltages and could last forever. Not to mention the polyester resin vacuum capacitors.
@marvswelt25874 күн бұрын
@@TriunfoGim thats a cool idea! i have 2 liters paraffine oil here! I thought about that before, but wasnt sure about the voltage rating of oiled copy paper or something. But i will give it a try for sure!🙂 thanks!
@TriunfoGim4 күн бұрын
@@marvswelt2587 Good, remember to use new mineral oil or use a vacuum pump (it can be obtained from an old freezer or an A/C compressor) in case of old mineral oil (due to air and moisture diffusion in the oil). Then, submerge it several times in heated solid paraffin (like candle wax) to seal it and give it shape. Make sure to wind these capacitors. Therefore, you will get a brand new old-fashioned capacitor maden like a pro (The ironing proces is for solid paraffine) but liquid parafine can be use for those wet papper oil capacitor of the old school.
@Sparksma5 күн бұрын
bro why is this not popular
@gumloon5 күн бұрын
Cool!
@Smrts9555 күн бұрын
Would it be worth buying a vacuum pump to bag it up and suck out the air
@marvswelt25874 күн бұрын
@Smrts955 Oh yes for sure!🙂
@michealludy99105 күн бұрын
A bit of advice, from someone who has destroyed many film capacitors: Do Not Cut Your Foil With The Cutter From The Box!!!!! The HV gets drawn to the points / teeth that the cutter makes. You will think 10KV is in your Capacitor, but the tips of those points will be at 200 to 300 KV and the arcing begins. Cut the foil smooth with a razor blade or a paper cutter, also cut the corners rounded, not squared. Rolled, is easier than stacked.
@beatbuzzergebastel5 күн бұрын
Krasser output. Da werde ich erstmal einige Iterationen brauchen, um mit einem SSTC Aufbau auch nur annähernd in die Nähe zu kommen ;-) Meine letzten Tesla Trafo Versuche von vor 20 Jahren waren da herbe enttäuschend.
@marvswelt25875 күн бұрын
@@beatbuzzergebastel 😃danke! Das war aber bis jetzt auch wirklich viel Arbeit gewesen🫣 bin schätze ich schon seid knappen 400stunden an dem Projekt. Aber der Weg ist ja das Ziel🙂
@charliemckay66815 күн бұрын
More data. Take whatever type of measurements you can in as many places as you can. Perhaps you can create a map of the feilds in that space. If not, a little lsd goes a long way.
@marvswelt25875 күн бұрын
@charliemckay6681 😄thats actually a really nice idea!!!😃
@CamelCasee5 күн бұрын
Are you living above a nightclub
@marvswelt25875 күн бұрын
@CamelCasee No, but someone said earlier, that he heard something too😅 Sorry i dont know where that comes from.
@CamelCasee4 күн бұрын
@@marvswelt2587 It's a ghost party being attracted by the electricity in the air 😆