Thanks you. Appreciate your kind words.

Thanks! Time will tell. I hope it does last as I’ve enjoyed it so far. It hasn’t felt too soft for me, but I’ve been using it in pretty cold temperatures so perhaps that’s why it’s felt a bit firmer as EVA foam changes a lot based on temperature.

Thank you for the kind words. I never ran in the V1 as availability in my size was practically non existent. What shoes are you running in?

Good job! Getting out on those more challenging runs is definitely harder, I always find working towards a bigger goal / race helps w the motivation.

Oh nice! I’m really enjoying them in spite of my current knee issue. Looking forward to getting a bit more pace through them in the near future. Let me know how you get on with them.

I positively reviewed them myself and got a new 10k PB in them earlier this year, but over the longer term they have a couple of critical issues which has meant they just really my go-to for anything currently. If you got on with the NB4, I think you’ll really like the 5s.

Thanks for the course update. The grassy section probably not that encouraging for those who just want a relatively nice Saturday morning 5k, rather than what can be a bit of a mud bath.

Thank you so much. Really appreciate your comment.

Thanks Christian. Hope I’ll be back to full fitness before too long. Good job w Valencia, have you done it before?

Thank you Stu. 👍🏻

Unfortunately the main issue for me over the long term with the Neo Vista since this review is just how insecure the shoe is because of the material of the upper. I've very nearly rolled over on them more times than I would like and the feeling that you have to slow going into a corner just to remain stable in the shoe feels a bit counter intuitive to me.

Thank you very much. Glad you found it useful.

These screenshots are based on the Epix Gen 2 Pro, but I did Chicago w a 965 and I’m pretty sure it was Pace Pro that I used for that. Slightly different interfaces but pace pro will definitely help you achieve the same result as Quick Training.

@ thank you.

Thank you! 👍🏻

Thank you. My race VLOG for this training plan is linked here which will let you know my finish time and their is a bit of a debrief at the end of the video about my race time vs my target time. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYXWqqhvj8eDmtk

Hi Tony. Yes it was nice to meet you and appreciate your support of the KZbin stuff. Yes both are tantalisingly close I’d love to close out the year getting both! The sub 20 is the absolute dream, Moreso I think than any achievements with the marathons.

Thanks Steve.

Thanks! It was a great experience!

Thanks Brian. Really appreciate the kind words!

Perfect! Let me know how you get on! I’m hoping to give another 5k block a go now I’m done w my 2 marathon blocks this year.

Thanks Alicia! 😀

Best of luck!

Thanks! I haven’t done the 2024 yet, I’ve sight up for ATHX Solo in Birmingham in December. When I did it in 2023 you didn’t get medal or patch, but they do sell patches so I bought one from the merch stand. Was about £4 I think.

@@RunSDJ thanks mate.

Haha. Not far off.

Thanks Chris. I’ve gotten okay doing all this video stuff while running I think. Appreciate the comment. Glad you enjoyed.

Good job to you as well, a PB is a PB! There is always next time.

Thank you Donnie that really means a lot. I’m hoping my content gets better and better each time. Yeah I had to go into a bit of a dark place to get the PB but it was worth it!

Thanks Dave! Got something coming up that might take priority over the sub 20, but also thinking I might be able to do both alongside each other. Gonna recover, do a hard effort 5k on a flat course to see where I am at, and we’ll take it from there.

Thanks Amine! Yeah, I think it’s called ‘throwing caution to the wind’. I saw it slipping away and thought ‘not today’

Thank you Gavin. Appreciate the support as always! Yes they are hard! 😂

Thank you! I had to dig a bit deep for it, turns out my last 2k were my overall quickest pace of the entire run. Wasn’t going to let a PB get away without giving it all I had.

@@RunSDJ 😅💪🏼

Yeah 25min 5k was possibly a bit rich but I honestly don’t think it had any real impact on the marathon time. I just think that’s where I am at currently. Might try a different training plan for my next marathon with a different style of training, but I do enjoy Runna and the variety of runs it has me do each week. It’s just questionable based on feedback if that is the ‘right’ thing to be doing training for a marathon.

I saw a massive improvement from marathon 1 (Gothenburg) to marathon 2 (Paris) but my training for Gothenburg was short (7 weeks) and experimental (using Chat GPT). Paris was full 16 weeks (as was Chicago) and I took a massive leap forward in Paris compared to Gothenburg of about 30 mins. However Runna did estimate too much and said I’d knock about an hour off my first marathon time, which I still didn’t get anywhere near in my third marathon in Chicago last week.

Thanks Christian, I have now completed my second marathon using Runna as my training plan. On the second and most recent plan (for Chicago, completed last weekend) it once again suggested I had the potential to run about a 3:25-3:40 marathon. This time however, given my experience I set myself a more cautious goal of 3:45 ignoring the overall 'goal' set by Runna. I did in fact do a 3:56, just over 1 minute quicker than Paris. This time I didn't let myself be disappointed as it was still a personal best, but it was still WAY longer than what Runna estimated. Overall despite the goals feeling a bit lofty, I like Runna. Coming from a background of having no real consistency or plan in my training, I must say I really like the plans and the accountability I now feel (to myself) to do the various sessions. I really don't struggle with the paces in the tempo & interval sessions, but the question of if that is the 'right' kind of training for a marathon, I don't really know. Having had a couple of conversations, including one with a running coach at the airport in Chicago, they made a point similar to yours above about the easy paced runs and I should focus more on these, which is a weak point for me. Even my easy runs, I struggle with getting my pace much below 5:30/km. But this is a learning for me and something I will be trying to improve on in my next plan. Any plan I do though will have to integrate with Garmin as well as Runna does though. I did my first marathon plan for Gothenburg using ChatGPT and manually entering all my workouts into Garmin Connect (there is a video on my channel for that too if interested). I definitely don't want to go back to manual input! It was rather soul destroying. There are a couple of alternatives on the market now I might consider trying including Coopah (they sponsor the London Marathon) and Humango which I know less about. My annual plan with Runna comes up for renewal in December so I will be strongly thinking about the alternatives.

@@RunSDJ Thanks for your detailed response. I don’t think I‘ll bother with Runna, which is a shame because I had high hopes. I am all for stretch goals but the paces your plan made you run are way off imo. How can an easy pace be the same as Marathon race pace? And race pace for a very lofty goal time at that. Some elite runners have an easy pace not far below the 5 min mark. Easy should be zone 2. Does Runna take into consideration your max heart rate? If it was a free App, I might give it a try but my expectation for the price that they are charging would be that the app takes all available data into account when designing a training plan. It sounds like they’ll make you happy when you sign up by giving you a great prediction but can’t deliver on it. Great result in Chicago. A PB is a PB! Well done. 👏

I find they do ease up quite a lot. I’ve got a new second pair and the difference between a broken in pair and a new pair with regards to how much the material ‘gives’ is stark! New pair feels quite small, so I stuck to my broken in pair for the Chicago Marathon and had no issues with crampt toe box.

Thanks! I rely a bit on the Parkrun website for things about facilities so if that misses it and it’s not somewhere I’m super familiar with I might miss things here and there. I caught most of what you said in your second para in the Timelapse commentary I hope.

Thank you!! 😊

It’s a great one to have as your local. Really enjoyed the course and the location. Good luck with your first parkrun in a few weeks. Let me know how it goes.

Thank you John.

No problem. Thanks for your enthusiasm. Always gives you a bit of an extra push!

It’s not a race remember! Just kidding, nice work. 🤣

@@RunSDJ ah I was only joking pal, I love Parkrun and its vibe. I do sometimes pick a runner though and have a race with them (that they know nothing about!), someone who’s going at a slightly higher pace than I’m comfortable with to try to beat my own time 😂

@@timcollins1975 oh yeah im exactly the same. I know you were joking, me too! Maybe see you for a rematch in the not to distant future! :D

I bet! It felt busy last week w 625, the park seems to be able to handle it though. Nice wide roads for the majority of the route. I think most Parkrun's likely had a bump this morning with the 20th Anniversary weekend.

There is a cafe in the lower park, at the visitor centre. It’s about 500 yards from the first hairpin turn. But the rugby club is great anyway. Thanks for the review! Glad you enjoyed it

Hand wash with soapy water and a couple brushes of different firmness.

Yep. That makes sense. Though I’ve felt the lack of structural support in the Neo Vista that I mentioned in my review see me favour the Superblast more and more. I did my longest run of my marathon training block (34k) in the Neo Vistas a couple of weeks ago, and things broke down for me a bit. Now that could have nothing to do with the shoes and just be down to having a bad day but I’ll be trying a similar run in terms of distance (32k) and pace this weekend in the Superblasts, which if it goes well like likely confirm them as my marathon shoe over the Neo Vista.

Have you set it up in the Garmin Connect app first?

@@RunSDJ yep. Also have the glance race clicked start like you did but no suggestion option just by course or pace pro to run it.

Hmm. Unsure then. Have you set your race to Primary race? Beyond that I’m unsure if the newer UI on the Fenix 8 might mean the implement of it might be different.

@@RunSDJ just found it. Can access after selecting start->run the scroll to workout -> library then daily suggestion. Wired that Garmin hide it under so many menu items compared to what you have shown.

Aah thanks Gavin. Appreciate that.

Thanks David. I do try and show both sides, granted most videos cover things going ‘right’ but I think you’ll see, this video starts quite brightly and confidently but things took a bit of a turn later. In these moments it’s often harder to turn the camera on myself but I am keen to show when things go a bit wrong, and then in follow up videos hopefully show things getting back on track. 🤞🏻

I am yes. If you watch my Chicago week 1 training video I run through my setup of it for Chicago. I really like it, though I am setting my own time expectations for Chicago and not strictly following what RUNNA thinks I can do. In short RUNNA thinks I can do sub 3:30 (again) but I feel like im setting myself up for disappointment if I hold myself to that so I’m setting myself 3:45 target which would be a 13ish min PB. I find I can hit the pace targets it sets in interval and tempo sessions without too many problems, but I can’t hold a 5min /KM pace for a marathon currently. Despite Paris being a 30min PB it was still tinged with a bit of disappointment that I hadn’t hit my RUNNA target. In hindsight I should have been really happy. So that’s why I’m going on a time based on my own targets.

@@RunSDJ \Thanks. I've given it a try and it massively overestimated by new PB too.