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@manishdixit3159
@manishdixit3159 Ай бұрын
I will tell how Sherlock survived with most perfect scenario.... That whole pavement was already digged and ultered for Sherlock to survive the fall and later apply blood on face to make it real.... The pavement was later rotated remotely upside down to get Sherlock below and get his fake body arranged by Molly up... Even if Moriaty hadn't died... he would have seen Sherlock's deadbody and had been convinced.. also he would have given some condolence to crying Watson....as a screw you....even the shooters would have been convinced... But writers screwed this.... with all the participants working ... filling gas in big bedding and no one notices... not even shooters... and what would have happened if Moriaty hadnt died....
@monarchsahu1903
@monarchsahu1903 Ай бұрын
The whole plan was the dismantle Moriarty's vast web of network. For that the whole world needed to believe that sherlock is dead. Even with that it took him 2 years to dismantle the whole network. Making everyone believe and specially john was very important.
@TommyRayzer
@TommyRayzer Ай бұрын
Sherlock: "FGS Mycroft, I have been falling, for 30 MINUTES!!!"
@augustussmythe8379
@augustussmythe8379 2 ай бұрын
Just about the dumbest thing this show ever did. Still love it though. 😊
@nicholasnolan2086
@nicholasnolan2086 2 ай бұрын
This is where I stopped watching the show, this was ridiculously stupid, and all for nothing since why does it matter if John knows he lived?
@SkyeArrow222
@SkyeArrow222 3 ай бұрын
Phenomenal 2 seasons and okayish series overall after this episode. They really wrote themselves into a corner at the cost of one the best cliffhangers in recent memory. True shame.
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 3 ай бұрын
So how was this supposed to work if Moriarty wasn't dead exactly?
@famousguest
@famousguest 3 ай бұрын
It wasn't about John - it was about the killer dudes - I never understood the scene.
@Avalon_1991
@Avalon_1991 4 ай бұрын
The show became terrible after this episode. I don't know if the writing team changed. They should have just ended the show here.
@crabbieappleton
@crabbieappleton 4 ай бұрын
And all it would take is one of Moriarty's men to witness that very, very public display of an airbag and the innumerable people involved. No wonder even this explanation is waved off. Moffat didn't have an idea of how to do it.
@Apolitically-Correct
@Apolitically-Correct 4 ай бұрын
He did he know John wouldn’t check his carotid pulse? That’s way easier to check
@sharkk2016
@sharkk2016 6 ай бұрын
*WE NEED SEASON 5*
@beanzieobeanz2955
@beanzieobeanz2955 6 ай бұрын
ironically, plot holes are glue for fantastic, fabulous works of FICTION - obviously not understood by the pseudo-intellects who deep dive into their nonsensical arguments
@maddlarkin
@maddlarkin 2 ай бұрын
An internally consistent narrative is vital for successful suspension of disbelief in any fiction. As far as Sherlock goes, internal consistency dropped off more with every season
@maddlarkin
@maddlarkin 2 ай бұрын
@beanzieobeanz2955 Yr reply got deleted dude, but I thought it was reasonable
@Kragatar
@Kragatar 6 ай бұрын
This explanation really makes no sense. It all revolves around making Watson think he died, but the point was (at first) to make Moriarty think he died, then change of plans to make his assassins think he died. Pretty sure Anderson is right that Sherlock is just making all this up. The real method would have been focused entirely on Moriarty's perspective, and positioning John to fool him was a quick on-the-spot modification to the plan when he showed up earlier than expected.
@moneyball32
@moneyball32 7 ай бұрын
So the guys hired to kill Watson just didn’t see the circus troop doing all that?
@justme8841
@justme8841 7 ай бұрын
This how they hoaxes like what happen in Berlin on a christmas market, Munich shot fire etc... Truth in plain sight
@IshaanThakur-z1j
@IshaanThakur-z1j 7 ай бұрын
this was so shitty
@mediakira6621
@mediakira6621 7 ай бұрын
Never was a fan of the retcon that they both manipulated moriarty during season 2 . Lessens his impact
@Mivkebvrns
@Mivkebvrns 8 ай бұрын
Top 10 pranks that went too far
@Matt..S
@Matt..S 9 ай бұрын
I guess using a vast network of agents to secure Watson, Hudson, Molly, Lestrade and Mycroft would have been too complicated compared to this. They needed the emotional distress of a country and driving a man into an extreme depression while forcing his friends to lie to him about his friend's death to keep up a charade that only really needed to be a thing for 5 minutes after it happened and the assassins withdrew
@shotime95
@shotime95 9 ай бұрын
honestly I prefer the stupid version where Sherlock bungee jumps through the window and kisses Molly but yeah
@christianreybaranda8919
@christianreybaranda8919 10 ай бұрын
isn't their first meeting in a lab? not a swimming pool? where he told other people that Moriarty is Gay 🤣🤣🤣
@September2004
@September2004 11 ай бұрын
What I don’t get is why they needed that decoy corpse just so Watson could see it from a distance? Was that so they had time to put the make-up on Sherlock?
@nathanjoseph8270
@nathanjoseph8270 11 ай бұрын
It’s clever because although the explanation is plausible it’s never made clear if this was how it actually happened or just a theory. Genius writing from Moffat and Gatiss.
@chattahsalsabila3019
@chattahsalsabila3019 9 ай бұрын
Genuis how exactly ? They just didn't know how to end something they started
@nathanjoseph8270
@nathanjoseph8270 9 ай бұрын
@@chattahsalsabila3019 no it’s literally up for speculation
@Kelsey-x4r
@Kelsey-x4r Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who wants to know the other plans for on the rooftop
@AndyRoidEU
@AndyRoidEU Жыл бұрын
So stupid.
@vanshikachats
@vanshikachats Жыл бұрын
"There were 13 scenarios...." and " there are 14,000,605 possible outcomes...." said by the same man.
@cnote2458
@cnote2458 Жыл бұрын
“Not the way I’d have done it. I’m not saying it’s not clever, but a bit disappointed.”
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 Жыл бұрын
I don't know - to me this was shark jumping moment... It was handled much better in the books and other TV & film versions...
@joelmole3157
@joelmole3157 Жыл бұрын
I like to think that this is the truth but the writers realised that the fandom wouldn’t be satisfied no matter what so incorporated it into the script.
@brianrocha5802
@brianrocha5802 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how both of these actors are in the MCU.
@lost.274
@lost.274 Жыл бұрын
"It's just a prank bro" The prank:
@Stube1.0
@Stube1.0 Жыл бұрын
You guys made joke on Sherlock. What is going on fu**n cell phone laptop. You destroyed the legacy of Sherlock
@andreeavioricarobu5497
@andreeavioricarobu5497 Жыл бұрын
I love these series. ❤❤❤
@ezekielbrockmann114
@ezekielbrockmann114 Жыл бұрын
Preposterous.
@cariboubearmalachy1174
@cariboubearmalachy1174 Жыл бұрын
Moriarty was dead. His crime network was decapitated. Couldnt Mycroft and Sherlick have just called it a day and gone home instead of doing this ridiculous mise en scene? What is Sherlock's fake death supposed to accomplish anyway?
@snadowblackmill
@snadowblackmill Жыл бұрын
if he didnt die his three friends would be killed
@anagirbau3301
@anagirbau3301 Жыл бұрын
​@@snadowblackmillit was implied that mycroft was already involved but still i understand that the possibility of Moriarty having hired other people was strong so they had to dismantle everything
@Loki-g3k
@Loki-g3k 9 ай бұрын
Restoring his reputation I think 🤔
@monarchsahu1903
@monarchsahu1903 Ай бұрын
Sherlock dismantled Moriarty's network behind the scenes. It took him two years. The whole network believed sherlock is dead and he took them all by surprise.
@cariboubearmalachy1174
@cariboubearmalachy1174 Жыл бұрын
So they had a huge conspiracy of a hundred people involving countless hours of training and planning and tons of specialised equipment to... fool John Watson? Why not just... include Watson in the conspiracy? Surely he's as reliable as anyone else in that crazy scene. It would have saved John from having to get that nasty concussion, and Sherlock from having to somehow stop his pulse long enough to fool an army doctor with battlefield experience.
@sarathomas8499
@sarathomas8499 Жыл бұрын
He was one of the people who were targeted to be shot so of his reaction was genuine then the shooters would know that Sherlock's death was real
@MartinAlvito1
@MartinAlvito1 Жыл бұрын
He's what sells the whole thing to an outside observer.
@cariboubearmalachy1174
@cariboubearmalachy1174 9 ай бұрын
@@sarathomas8499 Wow. So little faith in poor Watson's acting ability.
@moviehermit5631
@moviehermit5631 3 ай бұрын
The thing is, the ending of the episode implies that this isn’t even how he faked his death. Anderson quickly questions just how precise everything needed to be and realizes Sherlock lied and will forever keep the actual method a secret. All the ideas Anderson came up with and this explanation Sherlock gives are more to poke fun at all the theories by never actually revealing how he pulled it off. It cleverly avoids actually writing an explanation that makes sense while having fun with the complicated ways that “could” have been the case
@cariboubearmalachy1174
@cariboubearmalachy1174 3 ай бұрын
@@moviehermit5631 The problem with cliffhanger episodes nowadays is that if you give the Internet a few months to brainstorm plot ideas, they are certain to come up with something better than what you come up with.
@billyeveryteen7328
@billyeveryteen7328 Жыл бұрын
I never understood why he had to fool John and not the hitmen.
@yevgeniyaleshchenko849
@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Жыл бұрын
He DID have to fool hitmen by first fooling John (so that his reaction would seem believable to hitmen)
@liamlimes8292
@liamlimes8292 Жыл бұрын
What was the point of the fake corpse?
@CCI-lv9hr
@CCI-lv9hr Жыл бұрын
Most doctors check carotid pulse though. Not radial.
@cwffyk1507
@cwffyk1507 Жыл бұрын
He came to bargain
@dergiggler3603
@dergiggler3603 Жыл бұрын
Super dumb
@dumusstmeinennamennichtwis892
@dumusstmeinennamennichtwis892 Жыл бұрын
I think many people who watch that scene don’t realize that this version also isn’t true. As Anderson says, some of these things don’t even make sense and why would Sherlock tell him? Sherlock lied to him again and the writers decided to never reveal the actual story
@DrewFilms05
@DrewFilms05 Жыл бұрын
I think it's more up to interpretation. It's entirely possible that Sherlock DID tell him the truth, knowing full well that he wouldn't believe it was true.
@Wesley_Peter_Redmond
@Wesley_Peter_Redmond Жыл бұрын
This version is true. Sherlock told Anderson as a way of saying he forgave him, since Anderson was seemingly one of the driving factors leading to Sherlock's "suicide". Which is why Anderson quit his job and started looking for all the theories that Sherlock was alive: Anderson felt guilty. So, Sherlock, who is not always a petty man, told Anderson how he survived to show that Sherlock never even contemplated suicide, therefore Anderson had nothing to feel guilty about.
@thatguy.0124
@thatguy.0124 Жыл бұрын
@@Wesley_Peter_Redmond i dont actaully think that will be the reason. after sherlock told anderson on how he told , anderson rather started thinking why did sherlock tell him the truth and thaton camera. the fall of sherlock is one of the greater mysteries i suppose in show and novel . The show showed us 3 ways but the truth remains hidden as to how it really happened. Interpreation of the fall is paramount over here.
@Wesley_Peter_Redmond
@Wesley_Peter_Redmond Жыл бұрын
@@thatguy.0124 It only showed one way. The other two were theories by people who were never even there.🤨
@Crowbars2
@Crowbars2 Жыл бұрын
If that's the case... What was the bloody point? The fake version wasn't real, the real version wasn't real. Why even watch the show if it keeps having stuff like this? There's regularly intrigue that never goes anywhere, and there are stupid plot twists which then untwist, then twist again. So, what's the point if even the writers can't give you a cohesive story?
@rubinapathan1832
@rubinapathan1832 Жыл бұрын
Just FYI, always check the carotid pulse to determine whether or not someone is alive.. Not radial
@develynseether4426
@develynseether4426 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, radial is usually preferred for conscious if I'm not mistaken? Just to see what kind of pulse they have. It's also less invasive on a conscious person than touching their neck
@minnybri2010
@minnybri2010 Жыл бұрын
An experienced army doctor is never going to check the pulse of an unresponsive person at the wrist first, they're going to check the carotid artery in the neck and feel for breathing. There's no way Sherlock could have fooled John this easily, so it's either lazy writing or can't possibly be what really happened.
@dumusstmeinennamennichtwis892
@dumusstmeinennamennichtwis892 Жыл бұрын
As it’s already implied in the scene, it’s very likely that Sherlock just lied to Anderson just to shut him up
@astronimite
@astronimite Жыл бұрын
After this scene, Anderson is shown noticing all of the inconsistencies, and it is, therefore, heavily implied that Sherlock completely made this up.
@hoangnguyenvuhuy5535
@hoangnguyenvuhuy5535 Жыл бұрын
Bro got a head concussions give him some slack. But the show should have ended in s2 tbh
@Crowbars2
@Crowbars2 Жыл бұрын
It's just lazy and stupid writing. From a post 4chan - _"Sherlock is a smart person written by a stupid person to whom smart people are indistinguishable from wizards."_ The problem is that the writers have no idea how smart people think. To them, intelligence is a magical power where knowledge just magically arrives in your brain. Since if you're stupid, it seems like that's how smart people think because stupid people are incapable of understanding their thought processes. In the Sherlock Holmes books and in better adaptations, Sherlock Holmes is working with the exact same information that you are given. He takes that information, applies his reasoning to it, and is able to solve the mystery based on that. Sherlock Holmes seems smart in the books because you know that he can see something that you can't, and you can see the "deductive reasoning" (he actually mostly uses inductive reasoning but w/e) he's so famous for in action. In the Sherlock TV show, you're not given many of the pieces of information that Sherlock has. Many important pieces of information are given off-screen, so you can't really believe that Sherlock is smart, since you're unable to see what you would think based on that information. He just seems to magically know things. It's so stupid.
@ryanoneill4021
@ryanoneill4021 Жыл бұрын
What I want to know is , who are all these paid actors and where in gods name did they find a job like this. Are they all M15 or something?
@pranav717dey
@pranav717dey Жыл бұрын
That's not how he did it !
@bradydavis5791
@bradydavis5791 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how everything came crashing to just horrible writing and storytelling ever since this season premiered. It was weird too. Watching the first two seasons, only to be confronted with Season 3.... It was an obvious drop in quality. It felt like it pandered to people who didn't care about well written plots or structures and who are easily entertained.
@Crowbars2
@Crowbars2 Жыл бұрын
True. It's like Moffat was constantly on tumblr looking at Sherlock theories, then decided to write the show based on trying to outsmart everyone's weird tumblr theories.
@austincompton7662
@austincompton7662 Жыл бұрын
"Hes my friend, He's my friend" I hope anyone that has ever been in that scenario is happy today
@stepankapraskova4922
@stepankapraskova4922 Жыл бұрын
I am just wondering what would happen if moriarty didn’t end himself? Sherlock said he was expecting that. So what would be happing? Would Moriarty just watch Sherlock texting Mycroft and jumping to mattress?
@Pritha879
@Pritha879 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he would have left him
@niko-ni6ps
@niko-ni6ps Жыл бұрын
I expect he had 13 plans, one of it is lazarus
@loekiekanters4295
@loekiekanters4295 Жыл бұрын
He was Moriarty, Moriarty was him. The devil in himself had to die, that's what this whole crisis was for.
@daphenomenalz4100
@daphenomenalz4100 Жыл бұрын
He didn't care about himself, all he wanted was to win Sherlock 😂 obv that would have happened. As Sherlock provoked him that he still had a chance to lose. So, Moriarty sacrificed -THE ROOOOOOOOOOOOK- HIMSELF
@sachinbaral1514
@sachinbaral1514 Жыл бұрын
@@daphenomenalz4100haha I see what you did with the Rook there 😂