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@sacredcowpictures8959
@sacredcowpictures8959 11 сағат бұрын
39 views in one day. wow.. Now that's something to crow about. Maybe it has something to do with the relaxed insider lounge room style, or the stale word salad offered.. The notion of a breakdown of society in about 30 years is just wishful regurgitation. Start thinking 2025 onwards. This video is a classic example of climate journalism still coming from the same complacent place. Note the way the award winner enjoys being acknowledged as such. These people all suffer from the same centre of attention issues as the climate change denialists now hogging the spotlight again. It's a vicious circle.. and the same old crowd.
@dsds3968
@dsds3968 Күн бұрын
Incels and the manosphere are separate concepts. Incels are numerous but you only want to talk about the extreme incels.
@nikolai7861
@nikolai7861 2 күн бұрын
For a while, when Ellen announces "deputy editor", I thought she was saying, that pretty editor.
@Oswaldfiveo
@Oswaldfiveo 2 күн бұрын
I should think they’d feel grateful to have a roof. I know I did.
@JoseLoayza-j6w
@JoseLoayza-j6w 4 күн бұрын
If it is true that Bob called for Trump's assassination, he'd better start packing and plan a long vacation to a place without an extradition treaty with the US. Trump's people are not messing around this time. Oh, by the way, I would rule out your beloved Ukraine...
@rjflores438
@rjflores438 6 күн бұрын
Why is it always posh English upper middle class women like this that tend to be the spokespeople for feminism. Privelige in this country has always been about the socio economic class you came from anyway. If women want to be traditional Conservative wives, its up to them.
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 4 күн бұрын
Why's no one telling these conservative traditionalists to leave women and feminists alone? When these people in these counter movements elect politicians that seek to subjugate women and eradicate political opposition by the apparatus of the state, they're so innocent anymore. If you want to be tolerated, you have to be tolerant. Chants of "your body my choice" happening today in school corridors, means there's a lot more going on than just traditional 1950s lifestyle wives innocently making meals for their husbands.
@williamoarlock8634
@williamoarlock8634 6 күн бұрын
The feminist movement over the past century has been bourgeois and careerist which excludes the vast majority of women.
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 4 күн бұрын
That's why you also want to listen to social and ethnic feminists instead of just upper class white women, not just reject feminism outright. It's a broad enough movement that there's more to it than bourgeois liberalism.
@noname-qb7ir
@noname-qb7ir 6 күн бұрын
Lewis is wrong that nobody saw it coming. Sam Trabuco left the hedgefund as co-ceo in Aug 2022 and co-operated.
@devilinthebelfry7292
@devilinthebelfry7292 6 күн бұрын
Most of the women I know are against the modern feminists vision of feminism because it is too radical. It's straight bigoted towards men. It falls into this, "the only remedy for past discrimination is present discrimination" BS. And most of the women I know my age are not very religious. It's not because Christian nationals are converting these women.
@mrharry448
@mrharry448 7 күн бұрын
What works for likes and is monetised distorts all kinds of material on the internet. People love Hallmark movies bit at the moment there does not appear to be a suggestion that they are deliberately manipulative, just a weird and successful popcorn genre like cat videos. I may personally loathe trad-wife product but until you show evidence that it is being scripted and financed by others than the video-makers, it is just another bizarre 'winner' in the algorithm lottery that makes me die a little inside.
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 4 күн бұрын
This is part of the paradox of today. People can get swept up entirely into Nazi and fascist ideology and not even know it thanks to the algorithms. They are t being racial supremacists, they're just being cultural supremacists, this bigotry is perfectly okay and acceptable, in fact it's even good, so long as it blurs the lines of definition by just a little bit, it doesn't matter. There's nothing wrong with being a trade wife in and off itself. There's nothing wrong with wanting a little less immigration in and off itself. But suddenly the tiktok channel about making cookies isn't just about baking cookies, it's about baking cookies for your husband because this is their agreed upon social roles; and there's nothing wrong with THAT either in and off itself. The problem comes in with the politics thereof that overlap with a lot of this. It's a bit like a gateway drug. It's apparent defensibility and innocence, she's just baking cookies because she loves her husband! But when the goals of the political movements are to make these roles the only acceptable social norms again; when this movement elecrs politicians and actively stands for the subjugation of women, feminists, and liberated politics thereof, it's not just about baking cookies and not so innocent.
@jamesedwards.1069
@jamesedwards.1069 7 күн бұрын
Are women strong & powerful, or weak & vulnerable? I guess women are strong & brave around bears, but, they are weak & vulnerable around men.
@PlagelsGarden
@PlagelsGarden 7 күн бұрын
I like that people can only get radicalized when they disagree with you. I guess otherwise they are just… correct? 😂
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 4 күн бұрын
Radicalism is about eradicating opposition. Feminism is tolerant in that it can be empowering even for conservative traditional women. So why do conservatives traditionalists have such a holistically hostile radical stance against feminism? Could it be because explicitly misogynizes women, into roles of domestic subjugation and servitude? Consenting adults can do what they want in their free time, but when it comes to people trying to restructure universities, or domestic life, or stripping women of their autonomy, the conservative movement is 8 and a half times more broadly radical than feminism ever was or can be. Is feminism immune from criticism and critique? Of course not, there's a lot of maladjusted feminists out there, so why does radical anti feminism get a free pass when it is explicitly extreme in all of its motives and goals to eradicate feminism and political liberalism?
@PlagelsGarden
@PlagelsGarden 4 күн бұрын
@ the question as always is who is doing the defining and labeling and what are their priors, biases, and blind spots. People are being grouped together that barely overlap in their beliefs by people who are obviously ignorant or biased in order to forward some self severing agenda. Edit: my mistake I thought this was a different thread, some of this response does not apply to this conversation. Some of it is still valid. I’ll leave it here and take the L though 🙃
@Thestuffonmainstreet
@Thestuffonmainstreet 7 күн бұрын
If you’re dressing for the male gaze and are straight that’s a good thing. If you are dressing for the female gaze you’re either queer or fucking up.
@mist7295
@mist7295 7 күн бұрын
what a long winded way of saying nothing
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 4 күн бұрын
That's because men tend to not listen to women. This is why feminism matters and why men should listen to women. Because it won't make sense until it does. Keep working on yourself to make yourself a better person and human being so that the world can be a better place.
@arxsyn
@arxsyn 7 күн бұрын
I recently came across an influencer who presents herself as a "tradwife," attempting to gain traction within the manosphere. Despite her efforts, she was largely rejected by the community and even expressed dissatisfaction with the men she encountered. In clips I've seen, she dons a dress and frilly apron while preparing food, yet simultaneously criticizes other women, feminism, immigrants, and perpetuates racist stereotypes. This behavior is deeply irritating. If she truly believes in the values she promotes, she should focus on her own family, particularly her husband and children-the very pillars of the lifestyle she advocates. Ironically, she's single and has a biracial child, which underscores the disconnect between her message and her reality. Her actions seem more like shameless self-promotion and self-aggrandizement than genuine advocacy. Moreover, the "tradwife" lifestyle is not attainable for most women today. The majority of families rely on dual incomes to make ends meet. Even these influencers likely live in households where both partners contribute financially. Thus, their portrayal of an idyllic, single-income household is misleading-a staged fantasy rather than a feasible reality in today's economy. For most women, working outside the home is a necessity, not a choice. The concept of the "second shift" persists, where women are expected to excel at work while also managing household responsibilities flawlessly. It's unsettling that these influencers fail to acknowledge the challenges faced by women who must juggle work, marriage, and parenting. The reality is far from easy or idyllic; it requires immense effort and resilience to make everything work. This sets up unrealistic expectations for women and in the worst cases, the men in their lives demanding this perfect performance from them is deeply concerning. Women are not slaves or automatons! The conservative view that expects women to handle all domestic responsibilities while also contributing financially is patently unfair. It makes many women feel inadequate and raises important questions: Can a woman truly have it all? Can she do it all? These questions highlight the need for a more balanced and realistic understanding of women's roles in modern society.
@Troll-hj8gu
@Troll-hj8gu 7 күн бұрын
Reading the book currently and so far it makes for an interesting read
@jamesanthony9316
@jamesanthony9316 7 күн бұрын
The issue with Kamala campaign and the left (although hesitate to call any of those in US genuinely on the "left") is the triumphalism. They don't continue to make the argument for these values they assume them as ground zero then patronise anyone who starts flirting with "trad" or more conservative values. There is no recognition of the fact that liberal society was itself a revolutionary movement and it now needs reasserting convincingly. Both Kamal and Hilary both adopted the assumption they were on the right side of history and so were massively complacent. There are lots of reasons why young women today might find these so called anti feminist views appealing but there is no counter argument on the left, the only position they adopt is one of fear...."look what will happen if you vote these people in" etc. Rather than stating why they believe their values to be more inclusive or emancipatory. A shocking level of arrogance.
@mmkk7836
@mmkk7836 7 күн бұрын
I enjoyed Carole's article today and thought "welcome aboard". A lot of what she advised we have been advocating for years and getting accused of being some tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. Now she just needs to make the leap and join us in discussing how to stop the Technocracy, Starmer saying he prefers the WEF to parliament suggests we may be short on time.
@ricksflicks-
@ricksflicks- 7 күн бұрын
Pretty sure that the reason some women hate feminism is because of what feminism has brought them.
@malhenning1608
@malhenning1608 7 күн бұрын
so you are critical of a woman in her mid to late 20's on her own merits fighting her way up to be Queen of the manosphere as Hannah has done? Welcome to politics. Any time you elect a politician of any worth you loose your control of them the minute they take power
@georgesdelatour
@georgesdelatour 7 күн бұрын
Prospect Magazine = proof of Conquest's Second Law.
@bensanderson7144
@bensanderson7144 7 күн бұрын
X has absolute free speech 🎤
@bensanderson7144
@bensanderson7144 7 күн бұрын
Not to be uncharitable, but desiring to be a housewife is now ‘dangerous’ and ‘radical’? This is an odd interpretation. My mother and all of my 8 aunts were housewives. I think a great many liberal and or progressive women should reflect on their own ideas and views. I won’t hold my breath that they will do this. The women on this video behaved as though housewives were escapees from a cult, and they needed to be captured and brought back to the tribe. That’s how they acted. But their words stated that they thought these housewives had joined a cult. This is nonsense. I think feminism is the cult. Promoting childlessness, divorce and abortion is true misogyny.
@4362mont
@4362mont 7 күн бұрын
I am not calling election fraud, but the apparent turn-out of the presidential race *is the outlier* that does not objectively make sense in the context of the rest of the process, the issues, and the turnout, etc. At this point I see little sense in trying to make it 'fit' with other observed facts.
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 4 күн бұрын
No it makes sense. They were less than 3 million votes apart, and as of the latest counts, Harris was only down about 6 million from 2020. When at the margins and every vote counts, then it's the issues themselves that matter. What were some issues 6 million people might have had with Harris? What were the parts of the voting blocks that weren't effectively defended by the campaign?
@parker9012
@parker9012 7 күн бұрын
If you want a feminist lifestyle then you'll support policies that enable a feminist lifestyle, if you want a traditional lifestyle then you'll support policies that enable that lifestyle. Do you want a free love style of living, or do you want a husband/wife and children. No wrong answers, it's just men and women voting their personal preferences.
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 4 күн бұрын
Except when it isn't. The broader conservative movement wants to dominate women, feminism, and the politics of liberty and equality. Yes, women can stay at home and raise kids and bake cookies for their husbands, they are free to do that (in part thanks to feminism!) but being team feminism and pro-womens's freedom to become tradwife, isn't the same thing as being anti feminism and tradwife because feminism is female independence is wrong and bad for society, and you're electing politicians that will use the state to control women's life's and women's movements. Yes, a lot of these people are innocent and swept up in a movement that doesn't really matter that much, but what if that's the danger? It's alluring, seductive, and dishonest, plus it successfully depoliticizes its very political qualities. Now you have a wave of young people that think their politics of baking cookies is under attack because they've successfully posed as victims of people that want to be free from having to bake cookies and produce children.
@Gumblethebear
@Gumblethebear 7 күн бұрын
You mean "DEradicalizing" right? Telling women that they can and should do what most of them WANT to do isn't radicalization. The radicalization was when they were all fed hormones and told to be men or they weren't worth anything. You had corporations wanting cheap labor (got it), and men wanting free sex (got it), and to do so they had to make the vast majority of women incredibly unhappy (as measured in countless studies) and mentally ill (more mental illnesses and prescribed psych drugs than any other group). Women got tricked into ruining their lives, and only now are people going "no, no, you don't HAVE to do that". And to answer your question, women like trad wife videos because not that deep down inside, all of them want to be that. A mother and wife who also has a high degree of social status? That is exactly what women want.
@Jilla0559
@Jilla0559 8 күн бұрын
11/16/24 - There has been no Coverage of the Kidnapping and rape of a 13 yr old Latina by a Border Patrol officer. Even though he’s been Charged with the above by the DOJ
@Jilla0559
@Jilla0559 8 күн бұрын
Welcome to 1938 Germany
@Jilla0559
@Jilla0559 8 күн бұрын
11/16/2024. - Did you notice that the NYT dropped a Story 2 days before the Election about what Fantastic work Biden / Harris did on the Border ? Where was that OPED 3 Weeks Ago ?
@domino_dadmp1240
@domino_dadmp1240 8 күн бұрын
Dressing beautifully but modestly because men like that too is part of 'misogyny'??? Your arguments are beyond flawed, they are parody!
@Gumblethebear
@Gumblethebear 7 күн бұрын
That's like a bunch of hoes swearing off casual sex and abortions to "STICK IT" to conservative men. Ok........ good job
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 4 күн бұрын
If it's a form of subjugation of women to men, then yes, it's a sound argument perfectly in line with feminism. Nothing wrong with it at all. What's wrong with you, why are you incorrect? Are you incorrect about other simple assumptions? Whether if you were wrong about everything? Have you ever stopped to think about that?
@TheAmphicyon
@TheAmphicyon 8 күн бұрын
All the left has is sex and nudity. Their empty when it comes to messaging in traditional media. Just look at Hollywood, run by liberals.
@dr.softie7501
@dr.softie7501 8 күн бұрын
Your points are valid, however, 10 minutes in and seeing how the issue of race was excluded is insane to me. And disingenuous -Speaking for many Black women who voted for Kamala...talk about it. It matters. It was a deciding factor for many voters.
@Gumblethebear
@Gumblethebear 7 күн бұрын
Can we please stop including race in everything? Act like a person, not a black person. Expect to be a treated as a PERSON, not your skin color. You are perpetuating the racism you say you hate so much but can't seem to stop engaging in.
@ricksflicks-
@ricksflicks- 7 күн бұрын
Sigh. It's really all you have isn't it? Racial grievance and obsession. You know why they didn't bring up race? Because it doesn't matter. The only people who voted for Kamala Because she is a black woman are other black women. The rest of us had about 600 more important factors than her race to consider.
@pbrown0829
@pbrown0829 6 күн бұрын
Sure it was that’s why they did vote Obama twice and for Kamala as VP in 2020…oooo wait. They did. Maybe it wasn’t about race or gender but the fact she is a horrible candidate and the dems didn’t do enough. But keeping making race the point and keep losing elections.
@nahuelrecabarren6695
@nahuelrecabarren6695 8 күн бұрын
Women should be able to choose any lifestyle they want. This talk of radicalization because they may adopt a "traditional" one is an exaggeration.
@chrisa5631
@chrisa5631 7 күн бұрын
We have a collective responsibility for the society we all live in. Depending on immigration to fix your problems isn’t a bulletproof solution for the future.
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 4 күн бұрын
Women choosing any lifestyle they want is feminism. Trad wife's aren't feminists in so far that if they were, they generally wouldn't subjugate themselves not only in that lifestyle, nor more broadly in their expanded politics. Opposing feminism, to the radical extreme of trying to politically eradicate it, along with legal and social rights for women, and any other lifestyle that is not conservative tradwifing, is radical and extreme anti-feminism. One doesn't have to conform to feminism or anything that isn't a conservative traditional life; the issue tends to come along when the conservative traditional life is generally so inherently fatally hostile not only to feminism and broader related politics, but also to women and women that adopt anything remotely feminist (if tradwife lifestyle was truly feminist, conservatives would reject it). Ultra conservatism and its spectrum of related ideologies want to use the state to dictate social norms, it's a radical extreme authoritarianism both in politics and in social norms. By contrast, everyone who's woke: women, Lgbtq, minorities, immigrants, we want to be left alone. If tradwives and conservatives were so tolerant to leave others alone, maybe they'd having nothing to worry about over people trying to get them and take their equal human rights away. The same can't be said for the woke. We can't rely on the decency of most people or the people they elect to inform their personal lifestyle decisions, and radically extreme authoritarianism trying to dictate the personal and public lives of others.
@Joshua-eo5hr
@Joshua-eo5hr 8 күн бұрын
Actually the feminists are the radical ones the majority have voted donald trump so get over it snowflakes.
@anonUK
@anonUK 9 күн бұрын
It's multi-billion ( and trillion) dollar for-profit corporations which bribe (sorry, lobby) governments into everything from PPE contracts to declaring wars. The whole pdfs-in-a-pizzeria thing was just one of many distractions meant to throw more gullible people off the scent.
@ericsanjuan4901
@ericsanjuan4901 9 күн бұрын
Yea, ok, please go get a real job, you have no clue
@sarabarnacle7276
@sarabarnacle7276 9 күн бұрын
Your interviewee did not mention, re the election questions, the most crucial factor in Trump's win: The massive flood is disinformation that skewed people's fears and trusts.
@mollyrosebranch
@mollyrosebranch 9 күн бұрын
the part about tradwife influencers reminded me of pastel qanon.
@narkelnaru2710
@narkelnaru2710 9 күн бұрын
24:55 .... that would be Jesse Watters.
@4362mont
@4362mont 9 күн бұрын
Actual family and other recorded history tells me that the woman who was a queen in her own home, with no duties besides children, church, household nanagement, being a gracious hostess with some accomplishments suiable for a lady, and sitting on a cushion and sewing a fine seam was allowed by her provider to hire at least one & usually several other women and girls who worked long hours as cooks, maids, laundresses, seamstresses, etc. with many fewer chances for marriage, children, family home ownership, or ever being able not to go out to work. (With variations on the latter above to fit generational circumstances.) Must be lucrative & also fun for some to cosplay a version of this, though.
@rv706
@rv706 9 күн бұрын
Well, feminism should not be about preventing women from living that lifestyle: it should be about allowing them to have the possibility (other things being equal, such as personal talent etc) to _choose_ which lifestyle to live and not being constrained by artificial systemic constraints.
@4362mont
@4362mont 8 күн бұрын
@rv706 Correct. My personal take on the subject of trad-wife cosplay on video for kicks & clicks does include both 'go for it' and 'who watches this shtuff?!', as I ponder that time spent watching is not any part of the tradition being held up for reverence.
@Oysters176
@Oysters176 7 күн бұрын
@@4362mont I don't buy the 'free choice' argument but besides that, the past has happened, we aren't in that era anymore, we are in this era, what has come to pass has happened. Just, what can we take from the past, and what can we try to get rid of in this era.
@bobnolin9155
@bobnolin9155 10 күн бұрын
Interesting. The only way Trump could've gotten elected is if the game was rigged. Where have I heard that before?
@OneAdam12Adam
@OneAdam12Adam 11 күн бұрын
Exactly. Here we are in 2024, mid November. Time to resist and fight to make sure Trump doesn't move into Washington DC ever again!
@OneAdam12Adam
@OneAdam12Adam 11 күн бұрын
Why haven't advertisers sued these platforms for inciting riots and division which distracts from the message the advertiser is trying to sell. We, as citizens need to sue and force our officials to protect us.
@OneAdam12Adam
@OneAdam12Adam 11 күн бұрын
The Ruzzian political technology works better than us Americans want to admit.
@billfairless6256
@billfairless6256 11 күн бұрын
Bezos read the wind.
@CarlFredrik-uo1cu
@CarlFredrik-uo1cu 11 күн бұрын
Project 2025 is dystopian af. One of the most anti-American things in history. The founding fathers are rolling in their grave as we speak.
@elainerempel1613
@elainerempel1613 12 күн бұрын
Michael Lewis's interview by Alastair & Rory on "The Rest Is Politics" is better.
@elainerempel1613
@elainerempel1613 12 күн бұрын
"Who Is Government". I'm looking forward to that.
@elainerempel1613
@elainerempel1613 12 күн бұрын
What "fiction" has Michael Lewis written? The host Lionel Barber said "you've written best-selling novels". No, he's written meticulously researched best-selling nonfiction. The Fifth Risk is particularly relevevant now, with Trump axing solid people because they won't subscribe to the Big Lie.
@clausvind8010
@clausvind8010 11 күн бұрын
I read Lewis for his writing. "Liars Poker" which I highly recommend, gives a very fictionalized and skewed, 'American', story of how Real Estate ABSs were invented by Lew Ranieri, when in fact the concept has been around since 1795 in Denmark (after a fire burned down a large part of Copenhagen) and Germany(Prussia) . Lewis worked in London, so I'm pretty sure he knew this.
@lohphat
@lohphat 13 күн бұрын
NYT cancelled, WaPo cancelled, working on cancelling Amazon. No more.