@@ericmiles27 here’s a link to the thread i posted it on twitter! twitter.com/tristler_406/status/1747310357297656141?s=46&t=Ov3uw3fg5qVL-OsSm7oVYQ

and here’s the ao3 link (same story, but without pictures) archiveofourown.org/works/54598651#bookmark-form

Yeah that's exactly what i been saying so true

I hate how people try to justify his actions as a kid by saying "he was just a kid" SO that doesn't mean it's okay

Her parents died because of Pythor not him. Llyod didn't even know what the great devour was then?

@@OthandoSimamane-ss1xp No but you can't fault a kid especially one that was literally raised to be evil.

@@regularguy2807 nah but Lloyd released pythor

Exactly!!

Yesss IKRRR harumi stan forever!!

@@dollyvivi_.ৎ thank you!

@@Tristler yw 💗!

think it's about time to stop holding onto the past and giving the newer seasons a chance

Expecaly since they got a new animation studio because the original went bankrupt. I hope the new studio will find the roots of Ninjago again and make it a great series again.

Just watch from the first episode. There're prequel scenes but those are just some lore that's added on over time, like how we suddenly found out randomly that Garmadon was once a judge at a war criminal tribunal because of a prequel scene. Start from episode 1 and you're good

YES!! I noticed that most of the Crystal Council was only really from the recent seasons (with the exception of Pythor and the Overlord himself). I would’ve LOVED to see them bring back someone like Chen or Morro or the Time Twins, or heck, even Nadakhan and have Jay confront him. Tbh, the crystal council kinda reminded me of DotD with all the ghost villains.

@@miadoesmanythings another thing. had the pacing been not too slow in the first half with less plot and then fastened in the second half while struggling to squeeze in some plot (not that I hated it as a whole), then perhaps they would've had an episode that centred around an encounter between Lloyd and Harumi, that's a battle not only on physical terms, but also in ideals, and in the end, Lloyd manages to get into Harumi's head for once and actually get the drop on Harumi, which shocks her as she's used to being the one to always get into Lloyd's head, and she becomes disillusioned out of pride, and also Lloyd tests her to see if she really does have the will to strike without mercy and let's himself open. Harumi then smirks to herself thinking, "fool" and then charges only to find it hard to be willing to strike, no matter how many times and how hard she tries to convince herself to "be strong" and then just gives up, screams and throws her weapon away. after she's down and when Lloyd reprimands her for her self-righteous claims and cruelty, she snaps back "don't you DARE judge me", and goes on a self-pitiful and opinionated tirade when she explains, in a self-pitiful and opinionated, but understandable, speech about how her life was ruined because Lloyd released the serpentine who in turn release the devour and that she's suffering because he, the 'killer' of her parents, lives on an is praised, and that he deserves to be and needs to be ruined and destroyed, after she calms down, Lloyd then reveals he DOES feel sorry for her in spite of her cruelty and also lectures her in that what's she saying and believing in is wrong and the opposite is true; being close-minded and hard hearted doesn't make you stronger, it leads to you being alone again and that she's actually deluding herself with her fear and trauma and unwillingness to be hurt, and also that while she says that she thought it through carefully, she actually hasn't and is really believing what she wants to believe, which the overlord took advantage of, and by showing mercy she didn't give it to weakness, she showed strength, before saying "maybe one day you'll realise that, in fact i HOPE so, but I don't expect it to be today" and then leaving

@@RobertJames-i8j WOWWW THAT WAS PERFECTTTTT!!! I feel like Crystalized isn’t really a good season, like I only felt things for it bc it was the end, not bc of the story. I agree that we should’ve gotten more Lloyd getting into Harumi’s head and Harumi actually developing rather than the overlord confessing and being like “oh, wait, I actually love Lloyd” yknow? I mean, she doesn’t have to forgive Lloyd immediately, but the way Harumi immediately became good kinda felt weird. I wish we had more buildup.

@@miadoesmanythings then again, sudden as it may appear, it does make sense for the Overlord to have created the devour since Garmaddon's initial redemption came after the defeat of the overlord and not the devourer, and Harumi's redemption at least makes sense in general since her parents were killed by the devourer, and since the devourer was created by the overlord, he was actually to blame, not the ninja

@@RobertJames-i8j yeah, it’s not that it’s the worst thing ever, but I do wish there was more buildup. Tho I guess if I was in Harumi’s situation, I might’ve reacted like her after learning that it was the overlord. But I think if we saw more of her doubting if what she was doing was right, it could’ve sold me more on her character (she’s super interesting but I’m mad abt how her character happened in Crystalized). Idk, Harumi just has potential that was watered down in Crystalized imo.