Is warming up with your feet just as important? Of course our hands but we use both our hands and feet. Any tips for the feet?
@miguelpessanhaАй бұрын
For Jazz you can't go wrong with XY. It gives the most narrow stereo image, but it gives the most accurate representation, the best phase relation, and the best sounding shells and overall whole picture of the kit.
@carmushroomАй бұрын
this is the kind of thing that youtube exists for
@tomppla2325Ай бұрын
best drum cover on youtube by far
@gerdmilano8137Ай бұрын
Great video.Could you please elaborate how you tune the bass drum? It sounds beautiful and dry, considering you are probably not burying the beater? My kit would get so boomy at that pitch it is really a struggle.
@rexweible3747Ай бұрын
glyn johns
@cowboytonydee2 ай бұрын
It’s unfair to put the AT2035 in there! I feel like SE8 is the best bang for the buck and the TLM102 is the most romantic of the bunch therefore probably best suited for this purpose. Funny how it really worked here but never really liked it elsewhere.
@usinganear2 ай бұрын
May I ask what your method is for tuning your snare? It sounds absolutely lovely! I'm usually pretty forgiving/don't necessarily get too fiddly about snare tone, but your sound here really stands out as being gorgeous! It probably also has a bit to do with what heads you use as well! Thanks for this great video and any info you could provide if you see this!
@alterhijo1642 ай бұрын
Great video! I mostly play indie rock type stuff but this was very helpful. I’ve tried coincident pairs and resorted back to spaced pair. I’ve been using the phase meter in my daw to check if my overheads are in phase. The shells usually line up in the middle but the cymbals are always close to zero. It sounds good to my ears but I was wondering if that was a problem.
@pibroch3 ай бұрын
Liked CENTRE 1" (with the overheads).
@kyuseok983 ай бұрын
I really like every sound you captured 👍 One question, How high did you put overhead microphones?
@samstevens21083 ай бұрын
What do your sticks weigh? I have a pair of rick’s 72g barrel tip black wenge sticks, and was surprised when i saw them in the thumbnail!
@michaeldangelomusic3 ай бұрын
@@samstevens2108 Mine are 82g
@RocknJazzer3 ай бұрын
Great, tho the audio seems to be a fraction ahead of the video, which is slightly throwing me off what you are doing
@tedwardsdrums3 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@timgawertdrums3 ай бұрын
Awesome!!
@HakanKlcoglu3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great tips. Engelhart approach sounds lovely I think. So naturel.
@wyattk.43044 ай бұрын
YESSSSSS
@dennyburkes5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Finally someone posting a drum microphone tutorial who actually knows how to tune a drum kit! 😃 Your video is helpful as I have been in the middle of recording an organ trio of late. Using a Gretsch bebop kit tuned high and resonant like yours. I have tried a few different configurations and microphones but keep coming back to a single ribbon overhead. Just a cheap golden age ribbon microphone. But I find that the ElectroVoice RE20 makes a fantastic bass drum microphone. Particularly for those wanting to capture jazz bass drums that are tuned high with no baffling and a solid resonator head on front. I position the RE20 near the edge of the drumhead, but about 9 inches away from the head and pointed toward the center. This mic works well because it doesn’t scoop out any frequencies like most dedicated “bass drum microphones” do. Anyway… Your video is timely and helpful and I appreciate you!
@piggycity5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for making this Jazz Drum recording video! So true what you said about all the other videos out there.
@JellyBags805 ай бұрын
Hey there, Mike! Great cid- glad I stumbled across your channel -Thomas Eby
@scifisyko5 ай бұрын
The drums in this song are so crisp and understated - elegant in the scientific sense, they do PRECISELY what they need to do with no pointless overplaying. That ride cymbal in the last chorus is just *chef kiss* and you totally nailed it!
@jason.martin5 ай бұрын
take 4 behind was the most balanced and natural of them all. great test!
@godofspacetime3336 ай бұрын
Steve Albini has used two over-the-shoulder ribbons as overheads for a while now, it’s not uncommon in the world of rock and roll to record drums that way.
@marcgalo94766 ай бұрын
waw ..... Engelhart did it for me to ..... great thanks
@lewest73176 ай бұрын
Nicely done technically and inspiring, as Max would have liked it. Also. Where did you get that T-shirt??
@n1cK6666 ай бұрын
Nice video! One question, where do u point the overheads on Engelhart setup?
@michaeldangelomusic6 ай бұрын
Place them above your shoulders pointing toward the middle of the drum kit on each side, for example in between the ride cymbal and floor tom
@n1cK6666 ай бұрын
Thx!
@smashinproduction6 ай бұрын
thanks! my favorite is Engelhart. Usually I use AB spaced. Also recently I saw pictures of Coltrane quartet Lost Album and Rudy used just two mikes. One between cymbals and second next to Hi Hat.Interesting
@Nipsy067 ай бұрын
Michael, This is Sick! I have been a huge fan of yours since hearing you with the One O'Clock back in 2009. Your style and touch on the drumset has always stuck with me since then. This video is insane! You are a huge inspiration to me and one of my favorite percussionist of all time. I hope you are well and still sharing you incredible talent with the world! -Addison
@robhussen7 ай бұрын
Great drum sound all the way! For the best comparison it would be nice to play the same thing and also add the Tom’s in every example! Thanks man
@soyandresortega7 ай бұрын
Engelhart!!!
@thebarak7 ай бұрын
I left the same comment in your mono overhead video because I had not yet found this one. But using an XY field recorder (e.g. Tascam or Zoom), I put it over my right shoulder, and it hears what I hear ( Englehart) but I do not add an additional bass drum mic. My bass drum had no damping or porting. This is the poor man's studio on a stick.
@thebarak7 ай бұрын
I use an XY mic pair (on a field recorder) over my right shoulder and it seems to hear what I hear. I have not needed a second mic for the bass drum.
@heyguysitsmeagain91947 ай бұрын
phenomenal. i just listen to this on repeat!
@ornleifs7 ай бұрын
The only thing I missed was a clearer High Hat - a lot of times I saw it move but heard no sound.
@SoundsToBlowYourMind8 ай бұрын
Superb video! They all sounded great to me although your kit / tuning and drumming performance have got a lot to do with that, but the differences in the mics were so very subtle. I was thinking of upgrading my overheads from a pair of AKG C1000s, to something a little bit better. I'm thinking either Lewitt LCT 040, Rode NT5s, or SE8s, but, I already have one Rode NT2A, so maybe another one of those, would make a great pair of overheads, then I have options for doing a blumline pair, mid / side recordings etc!
@monoplectronic20108 ай бұрын
End the madness, put a FET47 somewhere in front of that kick, 12-18" out, give or take. Or go vintage crazy, put a 4038 on the beater side, to the right of your pedal, far enough back so the click and the boom merge. Call it 'thwap', on a low calfskin vibe it's old school heaven. Don't forget to flip the polarity on that pre!
@ReinerDamisch4 ай бұрын
I'm also a fan of putting a mike on the beater side and also getting some leakage of the snare bottom this way. How much, I can level with an EQ on around 5kHz. Most jazz drummers I record are looking for a kick drum sound similar to a floor tom but lower in pitch. So I use any mike that would sound also good on a floor tom. This way, I would not flip the phase. Theoretically, when you hit a drum, the drumhead is moving away from the mike. So the mike diaphragm is going out of the mike, therefor causing the membrane of the speaker also to move out. This is also the case for the toms and snare in the overheads. But I always check the phase in the DAW and give the kick drum a little delay to be in sync with the overheads. Two KM 148, Schoeps MK4 or Beyerdynamic M 160 in XY right above the snare are my favorite overheads, depending how bright the cymbals are. I only mike the snare and toms, when the cymbals are mounted very high above the drums. But I have not seen this in straight ahead jazz recently.
@monoplectronic20104 ай бұрын
@@ReinerDamisch I get what you're saying, a lot of this is taste/preference. I generally flip polarity on a mic pointed straight at a batter head, unless the kick bleed is significant and the transient goes positive first, in which case I'll either leave it or (more likely) move the mic. You may have mistyped, but a drumhead that moves away from a mic capsule will cause rarefaction and (as you say) pull the capsule forward, but that will not push the speaker cone out, it will pull the cone inward. Rarefaction and forward capsule movement create negative voltage, aka waveform goes down, aka speaker pulls away from you (just as the drum pulled away from the mic).
@monoplectronic20108 ай бұрын
ORTF, I'm not sold. With the mics that close to the kit, every sound is hitting the mics off axis (not a huge deal with earthworks but still a deal), but really the transients got no love because the only sound hitting the capsules directly are the reflected sounds. For kicks some time, try rotating your mics 45-ish degrees so one points at the kick and the other at the snare, ish. It creates a vibe, esp. with XY. The thing that always warms my heart with XY, and I hear it here in spades, are the super tight, fat, punchy transients, on everything. If your player is ham handed it can be too much HF detail, but with a deft touch like yours, you get so many options for placement and vibe in the mix. Engelhart... it sounds so washed out to me, I wonder if that's more down to your room, I feel like 12-18" closer to the kit would maybe help the clarity in your space. Thanks for taking the time!
@MrAdrianloera8 ай бұрын
Depends on the BPM of this song?
@sinenkaari54778 ай бұрын
For me Vintage sounds best and familiar. That ride has that nice wash there without modern sharp stick attack and it's most balanced sounding. Close overhead does not add really that much more attack to the snare it only brings up the volume of cymbals slightly. I have to try the Vintage one! It feels like complete sound
@Zonno58 ай бұрын
great job! very impressive
@Joedoriamusic8 ай бұрын
Do try a capable ribbon mic on the jazz kick. I think you'll enjoy it. Great video! Nice to hear the 52 with a good jazz player.
@SinclairLott8 ай бұрын
I can hear more cymbal definition using the close overhead placement. I also helps that you have a superb touch. Love the mono too. Thanks for a great series!
@rayszymarek29208 ай бұрын
Nicest playing with the great dynamic sound I admire you and your drumming is like a waterfall shimmering diamonds the bass drum is a gift from heaven the angels must have delivered it to you any way my type of drumming that I dig you are an inspiration
@taylorunis54189 ай бұрын
I would have loved to have seen some SM57’s in this! Its surprising how well they work in a pinch in this type of set up
@michaeldangelomusic9 ай бұрын
That could certainly be a future video!
@MelodicDreamers10 ай бұрын
Engelhart
@MelodicDreamers10 ай бұрын
in order. 4 - 1 - 3 - 2.
@bassface8410 ай бұрын
That close overhead so reminds me of how Bill Stewarts kit sounds it's kinda scary, LOL