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Can someone explain what he meant by that 1 rule about breaking user space?

Docker?

I tried some distros in a new laptop. Had issues with my Everest Audio card. Then I gave up go to Linux side again. Yesterday I got surprised when Linux Mint 22 beta cinnamon managed to make audio work properly.

Linux is an agent who is in league with the likes of Larry Ellison and Steve Jobs and he sold out desktop personal computing to the tyrants who want to put your in their cloudy prison cell.

This reminds me of a recent change in keypassxc for debian. The binary maintainer for it said that the normal stable debian package doesn't need network access. So, now debian users have to use keypassxc-full if they want network access.

Flutter could save it too. Flatpak has binaries that are too big and it is not easy to release. Appimage is not so bad. (I prefer to release that).

Fat tom scott

I’m glad he finally said it. It been like this for my entire life, and generation after generation learn this lesson, then they get bored and get a paid job and must use windows or macOS.

And it still is

The Universal Blue project distros seem to have fixed all of these issues. I think atomic linux is the future.

Why do fat binaries make you sad?

I think this Linus guy is going places in the Linux community! Keep an eye on this one!

For me, the major issue in linux is xorg is too old while wayland is too young. At this point, features such as fractional scaling, screen sharing, different scaling for different monitors etc should work, but they don't. Adding to that linux is not really optimised for laptops and battery life gets affected severely.

there should be only one distribution with multiple DE . linux is already so customisable

What will save linux desktop? Successful Linux: Mac OS & Android. Why because 1 company controls it and does not F around, its there way or you can F off. Sadly when it comes to making a successful O.S. you don't need a democracy, you require a dictatorship.

Maybe flatpak or snap could helps ?

Me watching this on my arch linux lenovo

Linux is only free if your time is worthless.

It's like saying a touch typist is a fucking moron, because anyone can one finger type. Just because something take education doesn't mean it's flawed, an expert Linux user is more productive than n00b and expert Windows/Mac users combine, since Windows/Mac lack the power tools to take the usage to the next level, as they don't come with the tools to go beyond slowly moving a mouse on a screen and clicking buttons slowly.

My first thought after using linux for 10 seconds

Linus is completely correct, and I have experienced this firsthand. It's a damn near impossible hell as a developer to make a single binary that'll work across multiple versions of the same distro, let alone multiple distros. Most people don't want to be forced to go through installing a massive laundry list of libraries just to get a single binary blob to work, nor should they. It's like a worse version of DLL hell. People just want to be able to drop the binary on their PC, and be able to run it. FlatPaks and Snaps kind of get us there, but they eat up hard disk space like a fat kid in a candy store. Gotta love having to sacrifice 1.1gb for every 500kb binary, right?

리눅스는 간단한 원리를 열페이지로 장황하게 늘려서 소개하는 99%의 다른 소스코드에 비해 훨씬 시스템적으로 아름답다 생각하는데 대체 사람들은 뭘바라고있는걸까...

Completely! I started using Linux a month and a few weeks ago (ubuntu, then fedora, then mint, then ubuntu again) and since then I spend more time reading tutorials on how to fix simple things than using the system. The Linux community seems to have closed in on itself. It doesn't care about users who obviously prefer a graphical interface, easy compatibility, automation, and use the OS for other causes than learning how to use the OS! Everything is "command line, command line". It's as if Linux and the distros were a car, not made for you to go to other places, but for you to tinker with the car, in the garage, and become a mechanic. And nothing goes easy. Everyone, and I mean ALL the programs I tried to install had a problem. First problem: few programs are actually made for Linux. Second: those that are, present some problem - ALWAYS. And it's not a question of switching to one "distro" or another. It's a general problem. Perhaps the problem is precisely the excess of distros? A system made by people who are excited about using command lines for everything? It's like buying a car, with an airbag, but "it's off from the factory. You need to open the car dashboard and connect the wires, and write this command line." The car is a free system "but there are only 3 or 4 engine oils, and any of them will probably cause your piston to fail. But it's easy to fix, just open the engine and write this command line afterwards." Detail: to open the oil reservoir, you won't just need to turn the lid, you'll need this other command line.

BFU here. Does he hating the diversity of Linux distros? Wasn't that one of te basic points of Linux itself?

? It's very easy to create a nightly build on Debian. Obviously it won't be in the Debian repos, but nonetheless....

I think Snaps solved this problem on linux. I see JetBrains and NordSec providing their linux binaries through snaps. They are a hefty size compared to using APT but I assume that's because they are not sharing libs.

and that's why flatpak is so good, it fixed every issue listed here

The biggest downside of desktop Linux comes from the problems caused by open source. It goes in a million directions and you have a mess that can't be cleaned up.

Who cares if applications include the libraries and get fat. This is not 2012. Fast HD space is a solved problem.

how the fuck is that the god of Linux readily admits almost everyone who used Linux at one point realized , the same thing that you mention on reddit and 10 rabid fanatics attack you in an instant for it?

And still a shit today.

I am the happiest person in the world! But really. When I read and hear how difficult it is to run this Linux on the desktop and why it's not possible. Some people even buy a MAC out of desperation. And I, I've been using this Linux on the desktop for a good 20 years now. Just like that! Unbelievable. Starting with SuSE (as it was called back then) until today with (K)Ubuntu. Initially on various PCs. Today mostly on Thinkpads. And in the family also on Acer notebooks. Sure, 20 years ago it was still an adventure. But today? Totally boring. Not even printing is a problem. Since CUPS, it just works. I even use it professionally. With MS Teams, Outlook and Microsoft 365 and all the stuff my employer thinks I need. That's the whole point: more and more applications are moving to the cloud. So it doesn't matter which operating system I work with anyway. They're just PWAs for me anyway. Apart from that, I regularly use Linux for work when I'm out and about, in hotels. Synchronize via Nextcloud. I have my iPhone connected. Use Kodi to watch IPTV and listen to music. Use KZbin, WhatsApp, Skype. The most important web applications are installed as PWA. It's complicated. You have to click on "Install as application now" once. Not everyone can do that ;-) Of course, I know that none of this can work. But it just works like this. Crazy, isn't it? Of course I read the reports about other people's problems. I just don't know what I do differently to others. But it's become completely boring. So the only way I can explain it is that I'm just incredibly lucky! Yes, I'm probably the luckiest person on earth. Okay, I can't say anything about games. I'm past that age. To go into the video as well: I understand Valve as a gaming platform, right? I didn't know that the Linux desktop was actually intended as a gaming platform. That's probably why I can't have a say. Finally, I don't want to forget to say thank you! To all the super programmers who provide me with such a great operating system and make me happy with it. My thanks also go explicitly to Linus, of course, whom I therefore greatly admire.

Nowadays normal people need nothing but browser.

Linux has always sucked.

Linux is stil in a $%$# postiion, coz devs are stil divided, creating hundreds of distributions, instead of ONE, but polished and working very well.

This is why I turned to Mac, everything works smoothly and binds all your platforms together. Linux can't even link ok to Android.

yeah now make nvidia card work properly with your system

I love how Linus makes an open source OS that anyone can modify and then blames the lack of consistency on the distros for modifying them. Sort of like all Linux admins I've known "Use Linux because its better, and if you can't its because you suck and need to GitGud"

it sucks

Agree. Too many package scemes as well. Every minute a dev is working on packaging his app for a distro, is time he is not working on his app. The linux distro community needs to get together are establish the basis for working on a common platform, so they all stop solving the same problem a hundred different ways.

AMD sucks 😅

Well - Linux Desktop does not suck anymore.

flatpak:

He forgot one additional thing and that’s that glibc’s licensing makes the notion of selling binaries for profit pretty hard. There’s a reason that android doesn’t use glibc.

i guess chromeos proves that in can be used as a normieproof os but the problem is that its made by google

Video is ancient so most of the issues are not as common. This days Linux works pretty well but the real issue is that OEM PCs are 99% Windows. No casual wants to install an OS. My brother who is good with hardware and was trained in the Army on how to solder circuits and doesn't mind fixing hardware issues hate anything related to software including installing an OS.

God its why I appreciate and hate linux all at once. I make so many apps and I just don't build for linux or if I do, only one distro. It's no wonder why linux on the desktop is unpopular. This needs to change or nobody who values time over configuration will adopt linux.

It's funny because it's true 😂😂