fun is legal calm

probably just on a small screen

Captain Bernie Cooper of the Arthur M. Anderson always maintained that the Fitz may have bottomed out near Caribou Island. He said he could see on the radar that the Fitzgerald was a lot closer to Caribou Island than he'd ever want to be while downbound. Not long after they passed Caribou Island, the Fitzgerald contacted the Anderson and said "I've got a little problem. I have a fence rail down, I'm missing two vent covers, and I've taken a starboard list." Captain Cooper says that taking an immediate starboard list is a pretty good indicator there may have been a hole or a stress fracture in the hull at that point.

at least this creator tried to represent. For what it's worth I think they did a fine tribute to the 29 and the 29 families.

@Crasher You know, you are correct. Regardless of the accuracy it's waaaaay better than I could do. I rescind my earlier comment and express my admiration for the videos creator! (I did USCG active duty and have always been fascinated by the story of the Fitzgerald)

@@bpruett6819 It's history and well in history, one is never gonna get everything correct as you pointed out. :) I like that this person (or maybe more than one person) did their best. :) Respect. :)

She had run aground earlier in the year to because she was so overloaded to break those records. They planned on putting her into dry dock to effect repairs at least that's what one historian that lost his uncle on the ship said he saw on records

Also, in Sault ste Marie Michigan the ship valleycamp has the lifeboats.

Thank you!

She did not capizize the bow hit the floor and she split then the stern capizized

@@insertnamehere313 I’d love to continue this discussion, as it’s always been very fascinating to me as well. We can take it offline if you prefer. I think you will find though that the reports of rolling happened earlier in the storm. Around the time of the sinking she had a fairly significant list and was taking seas over her stern. A couple of things I’d like to note, as you seem very well educated as it pertains to the Fitz. I find it very curious and telling that when the wreck was found, the pilot house door is dogged open. Certainly not normal in a storm like that. Also, while I agree with the statements made about the Fitz in the documentary, there was another side to her. She had a loose keel that had troubled her for years and had been constantly rewelded. She was also known to actually not be a very stable ship. Even according to McSorley she had a habit of springing like after someone jumped off of a diving board. Also doing what McSorley called “the wiggling thing” and that the ship sometimes scared him. I also found it very telling that the “sister” ship to the Fitz was scrapped rather quickly and quietly shortly after being lengthened, and when after the Fitzgerald sinking, the coast guard wanted to examine that ship, the owners refused. I have always thought there were known design issues there. When you switch from a combination welded/riveted construction to a completely welded construction, you do lose flexibility for the ship to “work” in heavy weather. I’m open to your thoughts. Always nice to be able to share.

Of course. The Fitz was fully loaded. This game apparently simulates it empty without ballast

Ron Wilson I have been interested in this story since I was a kid and remembering it happening. Have done much amateur investigating and would enjoy a conversation with you on it, if you are interested.

@@craigkohler7095 I welcome any conversation regarding the Fitzgerald. I’ve amassed a huge amount of data since the sinking and have always been completely fascinated by this subject. If a person does enough research and can pull details from several different reliable resources, some very interesting conclusions can be drawn. To be certain, no one knows what the cause of the sinking was, and if they claim to they are not being truthful. On the other hand there is a very large amount of information that we can basically call facts. If we take an objective look at all of this data we can at least make an educated guess on very many details. I’d love to share data and discuss more. For instance, I know that leading up to the sinking, she had a pretty significant list. I can go into great detail about significant that information is. Has anyone ever heard anyone describe how many degree list she had? I have not. I am open to any additional discussions on any platform you choose as well. I have been lucky enough to see detailed engineering plans and countless pictures taken of her during construction as well. There are so many pieces to this puzzle but it is truly fascinating. At the same time, a very sad tragedy as well…

Perhaps not rolling that much but for what it's worth, I think the tribute this creator did is very nice. When doing work with history, you'll not get everything correct, that's just a fact.

Yes all 29 men. "All that remains is the faces and the names. Of the Wives, the sons and the daughters"

@@tinypoolmodelshipyard Yeah, literally the entire song playing in the background of this video describes, in great detail might I add, what happened to that ship and its crew and this guy is still acting like the guy who made this video is an idiot. 🤦

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Sir this is a sim

@@groupisnear What is the process in order to get Gordon Lightfoot's song attached to your video. This is so well done and the music enhances it ever more. Well done.

Sure this isn't Triple A game graphics, but it's not Minecraft. If it was the ship would be built out of all blocks. There is no smooth curves in that game.