Nice video. Can the Fargo take a flat handle bar or would you recommend another bike if one wanted to go in that direction?
@urbane-cyclist6 күн бұрын
The Fargo can absolutely take a flat bar BUT the geometry is specifically designed around a drop bar. That means a shorter reach than normal so I might recommend comparing a flat bar bike you like with the Fargo geo (perhaps by using bikeinsights.com) to make sure you are able to set it up in a reasonable way for yours needs and preferences. I do know some people that don't have very long arms who chose this bike due to their less average proportions and they set it up with flat bars and loved it!
@theymademepickaname12486 күн бұрын
QR wheels are a dealbreaker for me. There's nothing wrong with them, but they are becoming obsolete. I can't see investing in a new bike with old standards.
@urbane-cyclist6 күн бұрын
QR wheels aren't going anywhere soon! Honestly I think its funny when people effectively refuse to ride what has been the standard for decades. Yes - in extremes a thru-axle is often better...but also QR is totally fine for most applications. But if its truly a deal breaker- that just mean you want to *pay more* for a different bike! Most touring specific bikes still use QR because they are common and easy to replace. 50% of Surly's touring bikes in their current lineup are still QR fwiw. Thru-Axle is usually still reserved for their trail and mountain offerings.
@theymademepickaname12485 күн бұрын
@urbane-cyclist When I search online for qr wheels for sale, I don't see a lot of options. Meanwhile, it's easy to find hundreds of different thru axle models. I don't work in the industry, so maybe I'm not informed.
@alfonsodiz-lois32267 күн бұрын
I guess you pay a price for that extra loading capacity in the kombi when you have to carry the additional 10 kg uphill
@urbane-cyclist7 күн бұрын
If you have a lot of hills...that is where I might suggest a Yuba E-Kombi or perhaps the Tern Quick Haul in lieu oif the "acoustic" variants shown here. These are both cost competitive models but if you are using them as you would a car (trying to cutdown or replace a car altogether) a mid-drive pedal assist motor would quickly pay for itself in the efforts you save hauling cargo (or kids) up hills!
@apleparulo39588 күн бұрын
Would this (Fargo) feel worlds different compared to a Warbird?
@urbane-cyclist7 күн бұрын
Yes! They are very much different. The Fargo is like a drop bar mountain bike with a shortened reach and slightly lower bottom bracket to make it more stable and optimized for bike packing and mixed terrain bike (with HUGE tire clearance) still with single-track capabilities. The Warbird on the other hand is much more in line with a more Gravel bike style build (leaning toward gravel-race as opposed to gravel touring), so although they could both be used for rugged riding and maybe some bike packing - the Fargo is shorter and taller in fit (and can even take a suspension fork) while the warbird in going to be better for minimal, lightweight and faster riding. Hope that helps! But yes there is **some** crossover but they are quite different beasts!
@darkglass30118 күн бұрын
1. Since the Quick Hitch doesn't require special tools like an Allen Key or even a screwdriver to remove, I'd detach it from my bike and take it with me to prevent theft. 2. If there's a problem with the tubes, I'd like some way to get replacements. If the company goes bankrupt for whatever reason, there's no customer service, so I'd like to know if it's possible to purchase generic tubes for those tires. 3. If the price point were in the $100-$200 range in Canadian, I'd buy it no problem along with the accessories. Its simple design allows for less materials to be used in its construction. Therefore, it shouldn't be as expensive as traditional bike trailers that uses more materials in their construction. 4. A major turnoff for bike trailers is that they're bulky and can't easily detach from a bike unless you have the tools. The travoy is the ideal shopping accessory design that people would think of when they think "bicycle shopping cart". I believe that the reason why traditional bike trailers are in the hundreds is because they're very unpopular, so they would have to have a high profit margin to compensate for poor sales even if the materials are cheap. The travoy is different because the nature of its design makes it near identical to a regular shopping cart that "just so happens" to attach to a bicycle. This would allow it to make way more sales even with a lower profit margin. In fact, if the manufacturer can lower the price and accept a lower profit margin, it WOULD generate more sales because THOUSANDS of people own bikes now compared to a few years ago and they would love to own this.
@urbane-cyclist7 күн бұрын
Great news! The trailer **does NOT** use proprietary inner tubes - these are the same you would see on many strollers and small bikes for children. Lowering the price as far as you suggest to 1/4 or 1/2 would require significant changes on the production side which would also likely fall onto the lowest tier of production- the labourers making the trailers. Which would mean worsening working conditions or lowering wages and likely lowering the standards to meet these unrealistic pricing goals. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@MrTandtrollet11 күн бұрын
10 kg diff doesn't mean much is that bike also weighs 10 kg more =) Would have been good to know their respective weights. Very informative video though =)
@urbane-cyclist7 күн бұрын
Great point - in hindsight I *wish* that I had made that point a little clearer, it is a little bit of a wash! These are not scripted videos I just use a little cheat sheet for some of the specific weights and heights so I don't mess those up...but sometimes I wish I hammered some points home a little better and that is definitely one of those! Thanks for watching -Owen
@ukestjohn12 күн бұрын
I only weigh 120 lbs and it was taking me forever to break in my B17. Then I DECREASED the tension in the saddle and it was instantly comfortable. If you are a light rider having trouble breaking in your Brooks, its worth a try.
@SeanSmith6613 күн бұрын
What a great review, thank you!
@urbane-cyclist13 күн бұрын
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
@___IG15 күн бұрын
This video was great. Ortlieb needs fix their dang names 😂
@failureisnotoptional92915 күн бұрын
Fantastic presentation, just what I needed. Thank you so much.
@ChefCIntencity15 күн бұрын
Can you explain to everyone why you are saying that the brooks 17 narrow is overly narrow for you but you go on to say that the swift is one of your all time favorite saddles when in fact it is more narrow then the b17 narrow seat?
@urbane-cyclist14 күн бұрын
These saddles have various curves that will make them feel very different and the total width measurements won't reflect these nuances. The B17 narrow has a tall narrow fairly abrupt curve along the center, while the swift will have a more mellow curve along the same axis from front to back. So although they may be "similar" width on paper they will feel and fit very differently while riding! So for example for myself the B17 standard, swift and swallow all work great but the B17 narrow frankly feels quite "sharp" and offers very little support. This won't be consistent for everyone and this isn't saying one is better than the other- just different!
@Ghost1256117 күн бұрын
Nice, the current STI technology is so good, the bar end shifter could be replaced
@urbane-cyclist14 күн бұрын
Bar ends are stupidly simple mechanisms so things like dirt and sand wont be nearly as bad when you invariably lean your bike over on a beach or on the side of a dirt road! STI shifters are good until they have sand in them...
@donuthole723620 күн бұрын
Great video, very well done. Love my LHT. Prefer rim brakes but other than that, not a lot has changed. The difference with all the upgrades available isn't that much different. It's not the lightest bike but is a solid platform. Highly recommend a Brooks B-66 spring seat and a dampened steering stem (Kinekt) which does wonders for comfort. It's Swiss Army Knife of bicycles
@TwoWheelRover21 күн бұрын
The road locomotives look like the mechanical equivalent of riding a bull. Which is funny because people ride mechanical bulls.... Devil's advocate on the SUV driving to go mountain biking. Outside of large cities with extensive transit, owning a car/using a car to get to the trailhead is normal. Mostly because riding in your highest gear and wearing down your soft trail tires is a waste of the components. So the marketing is just targeting people who do that kind of riding. Overall in my opinion the solution to large city car issues is trains and walkable/ridable access to trains. Improving dedicated bike access to GO stations etc
@urbane-cyclist20 күн бұрын
Absolutely true that we could use WAY more dedicated support for multi-modal urban transport / enthusiasm and infrastructure for having bikes on our public transportation! And our point was totally the opposite -- there's nothing wrong with driving to a trail for a ride, in fact, it's awesome to see it depicted! I was more pointing out that it was surprising to see a car advert showing us how freeing it is to drive somewhere so that you can have the even more freeing experience of riding a bike, and that we should be able to have freeing experiences on two wheels without driving to them! And yeah, we DEFINITELY agree it's wasteful to commute on your beautiful downhill mountain bike setup! ;) Sorry if it wasn't the clearest message!
@jessa730622 күн бұрын
Do you know how much this weight? No where I can’t find any of this info online. Thanks
@urbane-cyclist21 күн бұрын
We don't currently have any built up but it would be ~30lbs give or take a bit depending on size and exact specs.
@Lomochrome22 күн бұрын
Agreed. It can also boil down to a nuisance trying to pass earphone cyclists on narrow paths. No way to warn or communicate with them. Let alone the dangers in public areas. This should also be taken into account by pedestrians as well.
@alansiebert702922 күн бұрын
Ive found it's safer to jay walk then try and cross at signal
@eagrun1125 күн бұрын
Loved the discussion. Id love someone to talk about the distance arguments. A 6 mile bike ride for me but drivers I know see traveling anything more than across a sidewalk from a to the building as a burden. These people this cannot help but see us wasting valuable road space doing something completely unnecessary.
@urbane-cyclist20 күн бұрын
Like, have drivers stopped to consider that cycling might... ALSO be pleasant, in addition to practical? 🤔
@zokpls871225 күн бұрын
This is AUSOMEEEEEEE
@monombrown25 күн бұрын
Awww, so sweet. Thanks for taking us all on a little ride around Toronto Islands.
@urbane-cyclist25 күн бұрын
Thanks for coming along!
@kiruakiller326 күн бұрын
So coool! What an island expert!!!
@urbane-cyclist26 күн бұрын
An incredible guide for an incredible locale!
@AndrewMalcolmson28 күн бұрын
I like the Windows 3.1 style window popups. The retro look works for me as I spent my summers on Ward's as a kid. It was a lovely place to be.
@urbane-cyclist28 күн бұрын
Thanks for the compliment! Ward's was a lovely place before, and it still is today!
@Frostbiker28 күн бұрын
10:40 I tell my kids the same thing. Some parents are so paranoid about strangers, but odds are very much on favor of a child who asks a stranger for help vs a child that is alone or actively avoids strangers. Adults help kids. That is our job.
@urbane-cyclist28 күн бұрын
It's healthy for a young person to interact with their community, and important for the community to want to support them in turn! Caution can be healthy, "stranger danger" and mistrust of all people isn't!
@chocolateme773128 күн бұрын
Are these foldable bicycles suitable for heavy people ?
@urbane-cyclist28 күн бұрын
The max gross vehicle weight of these bikes is 120 kgs which includes the bike (these are around ~12-13 kgs), cargo and accessories so the max rider weight would need to be under around ~105-110 kgs (depending on the bike model) so riders should be no more than about ~235-240lbs. For larger riders something like the Tern Short Haul may work a bit better (although it is non folding) but riders can be up to up to 120 kg or 264 lbs
@chocolateme773127 күн бұрын
@urbane-cyclist OK and thanks so much for answering my question
@TOPMOSTPOPАй бұрын
Very informative good job sir.
@edisonlasin5559Ай бұрын
Hi Ms. Veronica, may I ask what size is that Surly Preamble you were riding in the video?
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
Veronica (5'6") was riding a Small and Owen (6'2") was riding a Large
@FrostbikerАй бұрын
The description reads "bike tires" as a desirable quality. I think you meant "wide tires".
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
Yep - already resolved that. I had the description open in 2 different tab so it didn't save my correction initially!
@beguntoro7731Ай бұрын
Saya memiliki brooks b17 imperial carved, ketika digunakan, lubangnya sepertinya menjepit bokong saya sampai terluka, apakah ada saran terkait hal itu,,apa dengan penyetelan tegangan kulit atau dengan menambahkan tali di seluruh lubang,,atau bagaimana
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
if you are engaging that portion of the saddle it sounds like you are sitting very upright so it might not be the right saddle for the bike. Otherwise I suspect it might be due for some tensioning. If you are not sitting upright (near 90 degree back angle) the b17standard may be a better fit
@bikerdenzuyАй бұрын
❤
@andyarchitectАй бұрын
I've had a demo on an Orox a few times and its a super fun bike to ride. When riding off road i recommend a velcro strap around the kickstand and that will silence it. Given the minimal price difference i would pick this over a GSD for sure 😀
@UnravelGravelАй бұрын
Between the DSX FS and Four Corners 1 - which will be the better choice for a weekend bikepacking trip?
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
Total personal preference! Those two are very different- frame materials/geo and build kit are quite different so too much to go line by line in a comment. The DSX is likely a little "sportier"( lighter/faster unloaded or minimally loaded) while the Four Corners is a little more stout and optimized for more weight (more gears +steel frame and fork) - maybe a little more "traditional" touring but can also lean into the realm of bikepacking a gravel nicely! I would recommend trying both and seeing what speaks to you
@svenhofstedeАй бұрын
How does this bike compare to a bridge club?
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
Frame wise- the Disc Trucker is thru axle and a little more traditional meaning a shorter reach designed around drop bars. The bridge club is quick release and more like a mountain bike - longer reach (toptube) for flat or alt bars and has larger tire clearance for off road. These tendencies are also echoed in the stock builds too.
@_Matt_Matt_365_Ай бұрын
Why you beeping uber?? Genuinely confused
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
Just for the goof... also we try to avoid specifics when it comes to companies - we aren't trying to single one out just speaking in generalities most of the time!
@twoeygray5186Ай бұрын
Great episode but one thing I noticed you forgot to mention is that everyone is trying to get somewhere
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
I just want to scream it from the rooftops!!!!!!
@spectre9801Ай бұрын
Love everything about the new bike minus the shifters. I would rather have friction for the front.
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
You can't win 'em all! I personally also love bar-end shifters but a lot of people (probably more) seem to really not get along with them. Good news is its not terribly hard to switch over if just a couple hundred bucks in parts and you can likely get it just how you like it!
@RideTannusАй бұрын
⭕ne invisible!
@BooksBikesChaiАй бұрын
I am 5'3" or 160 cms and in between sizes XS and S. Which would be a more comfortable fit? Please advise.
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
I strongly recommend taking the bike for a test ride before going for it with a purchase, but if that option is not available to you, the Marin website says that the size small is appropriate for riders who are as short as 5'2", while 5'3" is the uppermost limit for the extra small, and without knowing your proportions, I'd guess that the small would be the most appropriate. At the end of the day, it really depends on your proportions! Someone who is 5'3" with longer arms might find themselves more at home on the small, while someone who is also 5'3" but with short arms might feel like you have to stretch to reach the bars, or perhaps if you have a short inseam, you will find that you're unable to clear the top tube while standing over.
@BooksBikesChaiАй бұрын
@@urbane-cyclistThank You for taking out the time and providing the detailed reply. As You rightly pointed out, the test ride option is not available in my area, hence the confusion. My measurements are : Height 160 cms, Arm Span 163 cms, Inseam is 71 cms. Standover is the bane of my existence. I had considered a size S earlier, but it has a standover of 70.7 cms and a Reach of 38.10 cms as per the Marin website. While the size XS has a standover of 66.8 cms and a Reach of 37.67 cms - which has me thinking if the size XS would be the right choice for me? Looking forward to Your valuable advise.
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
Looks like you've got to go with the extra small, since you won't be able to comfortably stand over the small. If you need to make adjustments to the reach with a different stem, that's not too difficult to do, but since the standover height is going to be fixed, and you won't have the ability to adjust it, your decision is basically made for you in this case. You'll have to go with the XS.
@BooksBikesChaiАй бұрын
@@urbane-cyclist Thank You for Your sound advice once again. It is so kind of You.
@EddieSmith917Ай бұрын
Just a warning for storing ur Ortlieb seam welded bags. Do not store n a warm environment. My gravel Panniers completely fell apart after one year in 30deg temperature
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
Interesting! First I've heard of that in 10 years of selling these! Are you storing them near a source of heat or do you just mean just in a very hot climate? 30 is pretty hot if that's the baseline temp for storage! Ortlieb has a 5 year warranty so I would recommend contacting the place of purchase and seeing if its covered.
@EddieSmith917Ай бұрын
@urbane-cyclist They were 6 years old sent Ortlieb an email received prompt apology but unfortunately nothing can be done, beyond repair & out of warranty. They were stored in a cupboard in a room with temperatures ranging from 34c high to 26c for 1 year. Apparently this is a known problem with the gravel panniers & as little as 1-2 year ago some reports (online) of free replacements out of warranty I now use a food crate ziptied to my rack & a 30L Stream Trail Dorado duffle (Japanese brand) & just place it in the crate. I'm really like the system I have now & wont go back to panniers in the foreseeable future
@giuseppegreco2214Ай бұрын
what kind of low rider it could be possible to match to the mounting bosses on the fork?
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
Any lowrider rack that doesn't require an inner mid eyelet. What we usually stock- the Tubus Tara would be and easy and great option for this bike (and any mid eyelet equipped bike pretty much) while the Tubus Duo would *not* work because it require both an inner and outer (both sides of each fork leg) eyelet in the mid position.
@giuseppegreco2214Ай бұрын
For first, thank You for Your courtecy. So said, I was thinking exactly to the Tara, but I've read that it can accomodate tires wide 'till 2.4" and the stock tires of the Larkspur are 2.35", so I was thinking that maybe it would be too much, how can I say ... precise! Thank You again for Your help
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
In a perfect work I would probably downsize the tires a little for possible mud clearance but most standard lowrider racks should work just fine too.
@jwallner84Ай бұрын
Everyone I've met with a Tern absolutely loves it. Around here Urban Arrows are popular and everyone I talk to absolutely loves it. I don't think there is a wrong answer on these types of bikes. It's a huge win no matter which direction you go. That being said I love my GSD S10.
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
We definitely agree - Cargo bike is better than no cargo bike!
@onewithstache3639Ай бұрын
This would be an excellent touring tire.
@SubtractiveMovesАй бұрын
Is the Kona sutra a better bike?
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
Not sure if there's an objective "better", since it does boil down to preference at the end of the day. If you have strong feelings about whether you'd like a 2x10 drivetrain like you see on the Kona Sutra, or a 3x9 drivetrain like you'd get on the Disc Trucker, there's one easy way to decide! There's also the different wheel sizes available. KS has 700c wheels, whereas with the DT you'll get either 26" or 700c. So those are two major things to consider. Other things like the included saddle, rack, and fenders on the KS might sway you, or the DT's wider size range. These are two super popular bike so they're oft-compared if you do a little digging! You won't go wrong either way.
@michaelmonteblanco-bt7qbАй бұрын
What’s better the Marin or the surly
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
We're just pointing out the similarities in frame geometry! There's not necessarily a bike that's full-stop objectively better. We did a comprehensive look in the full-length video, but the gist of it is that each bike will fulfill different needs for different people.
@unconventionalleo2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video - it's the sort of thing I've been looking for - so much so that I took a riding in the city class with a local organization. I feel like there are even more topics along these lines for. you to cover and I would love for this to become a semi-regular topic for you to cover. That said, I'm still wearing my headphones on transparent mode.
@nettrawler12022 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I was wondering about the B17 vs B17 flyer. My commuting bike is a folder so I can feel bumps and potholes through the small wheels and solid frame. Would the Flyer smooth these out? I have heard the springs are quite stiff and don't make much of a difference on roads.
@urbane-cyclistАй бұрын
Springs are fairly low tech- they will sort of bounce which for efficiency isn't amazing. It can help slightly with comfort if you are caught off guard by a pothole but they also add weight. I personally find unweighing the saddle when riding over any bumps of rough ground is best practice, and will not only be easiest on your body but also less strain on the saddle rails.
@gungfuriceboy2 ай бұрын
for both bikes...can front & back brake lights be installed 'easily'???
@urbane-cyclist2 ай бұрын
You can put front and rear lights on any bike easily! Lights that correspond to whether or not you are braking are going to require more complex electrical wiring, so if you're not particularly skilled with wiring or electronic work, that might be best left to the experts. Or look into normal lights!
@giuseppegreco22142 ай бұрын
hi folks it could be possible to swap the wheels with 26 inch
@urbane-cyclist2 ай бұрын
If your disc rotor is the same size, I guess you could, but the Larkspur already has 650B wheels, so it would allow for some pretty generous tires already. Not a ton of benefit, I would think? - Veronica EDIT: Owen would like me to add that you have the added consideration of clearance -- Dropping the wheel size will also drop your bottom bracket height, meaning you have an increased risk of your pedals / cranks striking the ground, or any other raised obstacles. Huge consideration if you're taking it on bumpy terrain!
@smokeycanuck8058Ай бұрын
Why would you want to?
@IsangRaddad2 ай бұрын
I love you so much! I recently just found your luxrul and I'm in love!! Your videos are so fun and you energy is just MWAH! keep living your life
@j.colman64842 ай бұрын
I found the saddle rails of a Brooks B17 too narrow to fit the seat post clamps on either of my road bikes, which was disappointing.
@urbane-cyclist2 ай бұрын
interesting- I've never heard of that before. Saddle rails are fairly standard across most of the bike industry with the exception of some oversize carbon fiber seat rails. Brooks had a little less fore and aft adjustment than some more modern saddle designs and the rails are wide set in the back - which is only significant if you are using under seat accessories with limited adjustment. The Brooks saddles we covered in this video should work with almost every seat post system in existence unless it is some type of oddball proprietary design.
@j.colman64842 ай бұрын
@@urbane-cyclist It definitely didn't fit. I believe that others have had this difficulty too. I've now bought a Selle saddle. Saved me a bit of money, although I would have preferred a Brooks saddle because it's a British bike : )
@Big-xh3dk2 ай бұрын
I appreciate the insight. I believe you save me some money by talking me out of one of these saddles.
@urbane-cyclist2 ай бұрын
Glad our product guide helped you make product decisions that work best for you! :)