Ancient and Older Bows and Arrows
14:35
9 сағат бұрын
Snow, Scammers, Bows, & Corn Bread
9:49
14 сағат бұрын
Hickory Horse Bows!
8:00
21 сағат бұрын
Buying Hickory at Menards
6:41
Күн бұрын
Thursday is Eat a Duck Day!!
6:56
14 күн бұрын
Riding Hickory Horse Bow to Victory!
3:29
Horse Bows and Kismet
8:45
14 күн бұрын
A Gift of Knowledge and Wonder!
4:19
14 күн бұрын
Heat Treating a Recurved Bow
4:36
21 күн бұрын
Making a Living as a Bow Maker?
8:32
21 күн бұрын
Correcting Alignment Issues
16:21
21 күн бұрын
Important for Stuff
13:47
21 күн бұрын
Fire Hardening Over a Charcoal Grill
2:10
The Storÿ of Bows Through Time
21:42
Makìng Tillering Strings
5:27
It's BOW TIME!
6:51
Ай бұрын
Osage Bows and Stuff.
18:23
Ай бұрын
Sinew Backing a Flat Bow
6:18
Ай бұрын
The Sinew Backing Debate
16:03
Ай бұрын
Does Osage Steam Bend Nicely?
4:05
Smoking Leather and Other Topics
11:03
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@ImaMerican-jb9ot
@ImaMerican-jb9ot 2 күн бұрын
I love your stuff man. I’ve been watching your content for years. Some of my favorite bows to make and shoot are red oak and hickory short board bows. One of my hunting bows is a 47” n2n 55lb @ 20” hickory board self bow and another is a rawhide backed 47” n2n red oak bow drawing 41-42lb @ 23” made from a 0.5” thick red oak 1x2x48
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 Күн бұрын
@@ImaMerican-jb9ot Nice! They sound like cool bows and something I'd have in my stash. Merry Christmas and hey, I like your youtube name.
@danielspain7231
@danielspain7231 2 күн бұрын
Hello John - another gem, arrows take just as long as bows sometimes ! Merry Christmas to you an yours have a great holiday
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 2 күн бұрын
@@danielspain7231 Oh my, Daniel, you sure have that right. Making a matched set is art. Merry Christmas, my friend.
@MountaincraftOutdoors
@MountaincraftOutdoors 2 күн бұрын
I have some scraps of Osage I plan on making a few shafts with. I'm sure I'm not the first. Any thoughts on Osage shafts?
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 2 күн бұрын
@@MountaincraftOutdoors With a heavier bow it's an option. Tough arrows are a good thing. Lord knows, some of us are hard on arrows.
@MountaincraftOutdoors
@MountaincraftOutdoors Күн бұрын
​@@johnjriggsarchery2457Yeah man, I sure am. I think I'll give it a shot. Pun intended.
@MountaincraftOutdoors
@MountaincraftOutdoors 2 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas brother 🤙🏻
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 2 күн бұрын
@@MountaincraftOutdoors Merry Christmas, my friend.
@Creekrock44
@Creekrock44 2 күн бұрын
It's Christmas day and I like to wish you and your family a very merry Christmas on this fine day . From NZ we wish you all a merry Christmas 🎄
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 2 күн бұрын
@@Creekrock44 Ha! It's tomorrow there now! Merry Christmas!
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 2 күн бұрын
Happy holidays to y'all and thank you for plugging the arrows. Cool
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 2 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays Sam. Thank you!
@justinrobinette4772
@justinrobinette4772 2 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas, Mr. Box of Chocolates
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 2 күн бұрын
@@justinrobinette4772 That gave me a chuckle. Merry Christmas, Justin.
@andyrunkel8296
@andyrunkel8296 3 күн бұрын
Great stuff. It is great to hear your expertise on these ancient bows.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 2 күн бұрын
@@andyrunkel8296 This stuff is fascinating.
@danielspain7231
@danielspain7231 4 күн бұрын
John that was fascinating I could hypothesise like that for hours
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 4 күн бұрын
@@danielspain7231 I love it. Also acknowledging that they had families with kids that had biws and probably had fun practicing and competing with other archers.
@CrossRootedForge
@CrossRootedForge 4 күн бұрын
I can't say, but with only speculation to not seeing the original arrow, but could it have been switched to a bow drill. Sinew wraps keep string from traveling and the foreshafts would make for minimal travel of materials to switch between a point or a dry fire starter. This has been an idea I have played around with in my head. I'm not a big fan of foreshafts... yet. I'm still working on perfecting it in my system.
@CrossRootedForge
@CrossRootedForge 4 күн бұрын
And I second the thought of tillering in warmer weather. Target weight in cold I think always comes out weak in summer. But if it shoots a arrow straight, I don't argue
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 4 күн бұрын
@@CrossRootedForge The link was long but I'll get it up. It was a 100% percent complete arrow from the notch to the tip with no wear on either end with traces of fletching, just broken, so I can't see that it was used as a bow drill. The bigger wrap was at the break and the smaller one was at a node where they could have been a little to aggressive with sanding and caused a possible splinter to form. Good thought though. I gotta go with kid's arrow. Check back in a while and I'll get that link in the description. Unfortunately I couldn't just copy and paste it.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 4 күн бұрын
I left out my idea of what the bows were like. I betcha they used high elevation yew.
@ancientwisdomsurvivalschoo6417
@ancientwisdomsurvivalschoo6417 4 күн бұрын
One of Geronimos bows is in the Bass Pro museum at Springfield Mo. it’s an Osage reflex deflex at about 48”
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 4 күн бұрын
@@ancientwisdomsurvivalschoo6417 Thank you for that. I betcha there's a photo of it somewhere on the interwebs!
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 4 күн бұрын
@@ancientwisdomsurvivalschoo6417 Nice! There ARE pictures of it. I'm gonna be a little stubborn here and believe that they have it belly side up and it's a beautiful example of a gullwing. It's hard to tell from the photo because you'd have to see the pattern of the growth rings in the center.
@American_Heathen
@American_Heathen 5 күн бұрын
All my scam emails go to spam Wow this unreal. I remember you stated something about a couple years ago to separate ourselves from social media
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 5 күн бұрын
@@American_Heathen I would totally but youtube is my only means of being in bows beyond my home. I tried using FB again after some years but it was a wasteland.
@dougdumbrill7234
@dougdumbrill7234 5 күн бұрын
I just don’t think I’ll ever have time to practice enough to be really accurate with my plains bows. For me it’s like pistol shooting vs rifle. I shoot rifles pretty well cold, but pistols? That takes substantial practice!!! Native Americans shot this way practically from birth!
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 5 күн бұрын
@@dougdumbrill7234 Hi Doug, that's a good analogy. I think we stop ourselves from hitting the mark sometimes by over thinking. Maybe, maybe not though. I've bounced between so many different types and lengths of bows, I wind up shooting them all the same way; coming down from the left 'til it feels like the correct elevation based on the feeling of how hard I'm pulling and moving to the right 'til it feels like it's the right direction, in one quick motion. People have said I have a horrible technique but I had one competition shooter that was watching me in person say it looks like I'm not even aiming. Works for me. Check out my video, I Am John, This is my Bow. 70 yard shot with my Paddle Bow.
@chuckbouscaren3898
@chuckbouscaren3898 6 күн бұрын
Haha, the worldly pipe is truly a double edged sword. There's great content like your channel and then there's insane scammers with no ethics and too much time on their hands. Thanks for the recipe.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 5 күн бұрын
@@chuckbouscaren3898 HI Chuck. It's truly amazing how scummy some people can be. I just don't get it.
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 6 күн бұрын
Major brain trauma for Willy Wonk😅 Great to hear and see you this morning. Money maker from way back. $ for what you love to do. Thanks
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 5 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 Willy Wonka has that effect on a lot of us.
@Snore_zz
@Snore_zz 7 күн бұрын
When I send you a email is that me contacting you or immediately making a purchase?
@Snore_zz
@Snore_zz 7 күн бұрын
I tried to email you and it wasn’t allowing me to email you
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 7 күн бұрын
@@Snore_zz If you are Cody, I received your email, and no worries, it's not an automatic purchase. Some people just email me with questions about stuff.
@Snore_zz
@Snore_zz 6 күн бұрын
@@johnjriggsarchery2457 okay ya I would like to purchase that second bow frame. Looks sweet lol
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 7 күн бұрын
Works of art. Love the bows. Friend of the woods. Thank you for the time 😊
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 7 күн бұрын
Lotta work. Nice Thank you
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 7 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 Little bit, but fun work.
@dougdumbrill7234
@dougdumbrill7234 8 күн бұрын
I just finished sinewing a 40” gull wing chokecherry bow from a super clear sapling I found a couple years ago. Very little wood needed to be removed and I think a Native American in my area (Northeast Wyoming) just wouldn’t have been able to pass up this stave! I can’t wait to start tillering!!! 😅 PS I happen to have a nice bull snake (road kill) skin! 🤔hmmmm?
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 7 күн бұрын
@@dougdumbrill7234 Chokecherry is such a great wood. Good on you and you're surly right about it not being able to be passed up. I do like me some bull snaking backing on a bow. They get pretty big. Was it a little guy fit for a smaller bow?
@dougdumbrill7234
@dougdumbrill7234 7 күн бұрын
@ Not much more diameter than bow and a natural reflex and absolutely knot free for the forty inches. The finished bow is basically the center sap wood flattened on both sides. This is an unusual wood for me, but I ought to use it more! I have a terrific supply of the most beautiful juniper though!😳🤔😉 The bull snake was shortened by road wear! 😂
@Hammerandhilt
@Hammerandhilt 8 күн бұрын
Awesome looking bow John.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 7 күн бұрын
@@Hammerandhilt Thank you, Rob
@danielspain7231
@danielspain7231 8 күн бұрын
Hello John - how do you get up at 3am and actually function as a human?
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 7 күн бұрын
@@danielspain7231 Barely, but I'll take little naps here and there and get to bed relatively early. This is more of a winter time thing when it gets dark so early. In the warmer part of the year when it says light late into the evening my sleep schedule changes.
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 8 күн бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks friend of wood lovers everywhere
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 4 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 HI Sam, Merry Christmas.
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 8 күн бұрын
Need to be excited about the wood. Great stuff. Informative 😊
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 7 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 Gotta be excited about bow wood.
@chuckbouscaren3898
@chuckbouscaren3898 9 күн бұрын
That hickory is good looking wood and should make some nice bows.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 7 күн бұрын
@@chuckbouscaren3898 It's been a while since I worked with hickory. I forgot how nice it is to work with. Not easy but such a nice tight wood.
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 9 күн бұрын
Thank you
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 7 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 You're welcome.
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 9 күн бұрын
Have you ever made a three piece hickory bow. I have two hickory limbs I'm working with. made bad bandsaw cut and gotta try to get a riser hooked up
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 7 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 The very first bow I made that was successful was three pieces of hickory. I split a short sapling to get the two limbs and used part of the sapling for the riser. Bound it together with sinew and strips of the inner bark.
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 7 күн бұрын
@johnjriggsarchery2457 thank u John
@MountaincraftOutdoors
@MountaincraftOutdoors 9 күн бұрын
That sinew backed bow looks perdy special. If it happens to be the one coming my way I'm all for you taking all the time you need to make it a masterpiece. I'm still holding off on stringing up that Gullwing. Can't wait to fling some arrows down range with it. Hope you have a good one John 🤙🏻
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 9 күн бұрын
@@MountaincraftOutdoors Hey, that's the one. Some bows come together quickly, some have a mind of their own and this one's in the second group. Yep, getting a recurve of good weight to a draw length half the length nock to nock isn't kid stuff, but I'm zeroing in on it. That's ok though because it hasn't said how it wants It's details yet. Striking but not glaring so it adds to its concealment.
@MountaincraftOutdoors
@MountaincraftOutdoors 9 күн бұрын
I dig it ​@@johnjriggsarchery2457
@Hopeknives13
@Hopeknives13 10 күн бұрын
I made a few menards hickory bow. Good stuff. They have birch at my Menards I havent tried it yet but it looks good.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 9 күн бұрын
@@Hopeknives13 Hey there. So far, I'm really happy with the quality of the wood. I'll have to give Menards a good mark. I wonder who has the bulk of the clean grained hickory though. The mill might be selling the premium stuff to a manufacturer of something although the boards I found were by and large premium; a few slipped through. You should definitely try birch. Fire hardening it should really make a good bow. Off hand, as one who has made birch bows, it's similar to walnut as a bow wood. Pretty decent and very under rated. Now, if your Menards sells cherry, that's also good, and really good sinew backed. It's pretty springy in compression but not the best in tension so that sinew makes for a really good combo.
@Hopeknives13
@Hopeknives13 9 күн бұрын
@ awesome thanks ill give birch a try. I’ll look and see if it has cherry. I know the red oak is good to made a few pyramid bows from them. I know you can order boards off the site if you’re not happy with it pick another one. I believe now I seen cherry on there online site.
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 10 күн бұрын
Good batch. Thank you brother of Hickory Bowyers
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 9 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 I got lucky. Finding enough wood for 14 bows isn't too shabby. I was hoping for more, but that's a good start.
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 9 күн бұрын
@johnjriggsarchery2457 good load of staves for sure. Enjoy learning from you
@chuckbouscaren3898
@chuckbouscaren3898 10 күн бұрын
Fourteen more bows for the world sounds like a good haul to me.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 10 күн бұрын
I was pretty pleased. I went there willing to buy a lot more, but 14 is ok.
@chuckbouscaren3898
@chuckbouscaren3898 10 күн бұрын
@@johnjriggsarchery2457 I picked up my kits today at the post office. I hope I can do therm justice.
@chuckbouscaren3898
@chuckbouscaren3898 12 күн бұрын
I think mine are still in a snowbank somewhere in Michigan. They'll probably find the mail truck come spring. Haha
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 11 күн бұрын
@@chuckbouscaren3898 The tracking number shows that it's available for pick up.
@nutthrower4415
@nutthrower4415 13 күн бұрын
😂 love me some ol Teddy, rock & Roll baby
@Couponuser16
@Couponuser16 14 күн бұрын
Hey John, awesome video. To further your point that I have not only heard that pounding sinew is a good thing before applying, I have heard it is almost essential. Also unrelated to your video topic, I'm ~1/3 of the way thru your book. I'd be further into it if I didn't reread your section of woods multiple times. You have one of the coolest writing voices I've come across. And how you blend professional "know-how" with the authenticity of handwriting is insane in the best way possible. Simply put, I love your book.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 13 күн бұрын
@@Couponuser16 That really made my day, and I appreciate that greatly. I feel pretty fortunate to have a KZbin channel and and an activity (bow making) that's given so much positive in my life. Thank you.
@chuckbouscaren3898
@chuckbouscaren3898 14 күн бұрын
Sufferin' Succotash! Sounds like a good call to stay close to home today.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 13 күн бұрын
@@chuckbouscaren3898 Heck yeah. Funny, here I am not feeling a drive in a snow storm and spending time listening to Mount Everest climbing disasters. I guess it's all a matter of perspective.
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 14 күн бұрын
A friend gave me a Grayling Michigan.. Little Bear 20lb @ 24". Glass Powered. Wondered if you do any trading? Thanks for the information this morning. You have a great day. Duck sounds divine
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 13 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 I discovered that baking a duck is really easy. I've traded here and there.
@kevenbatista9598
@kevenbatista9598 14 күн бұрын
Good energy
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 13 күн бұрын
@@kevenbatista9598 Thank you, Kevin
@GorowskyInsurance
@GorowskyInsurance 15 күн бұрын
Your designs are killer!
@chuckbouscaren3898
@chuckbouscaren3898 16 күн бұрын
I hope that this takes off for you John! Safe journey into the snow belt.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 16 күн бұрын
@@chuckbouscaren3898 Thank You. I predict good things, especially with a second variant along with submitting an article to Primitive Archer.
@Hammerandhilt
@Hammerandhilt 16 күн бұрын
I honestly think the one bow production is a great business strategy. Have all the steps pre laid out, you can account for materials, cost of tool consumables etc. It also makes the marketing far easier as you only have to advertise for that model you are selling. That's not to say people won't order one off commissions from you but the bow production line will be far less stressful for you to operate. I think it is a great idea John. Lots of subtle nuances and variations you can make to your horse bow such as backing, string notches, decorative paint etc. Fantastic news also to hear the snowball has begun to gather momentum, great potential for this time next year!!
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 16 күн бұрын
@@Hammerandhilt HI Rob, Thank you, it's coming together organically. Heck, I'm already getting emails requesting finished bows and blanks. Good deal.
@PK-kp2jl
@PK-kp2jl 17 күн бұрын
Nice John, Did I tell ya I hollow tillered my last Osage Plainsy? Merry Christmas 🤶🤶🎅🎅
@danielspain7231
@danielspain7231 18 күн бұрын
Hello John, I think for novices and people who haven’t got time to harvest and cure etc, the bow blanks are a great idea - bowyery is massively time consuming, the idea of having an already roughed out balanced bow blank to work on becomes more and more attractive the older you get! Personally in 20 years of non-professional (distinctly non-professional 😂) bow making, I’ve only bought 3 unprepared staves, about ten years ago, 2 ash and 1 yew, and I’m still working on them ! Got to be cured by now 😅😅
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 18 күн бұрын
Hi Daniel. Thank you and I pretty much see eye to eye with you pretty much all of the time including this time too. I just happened to think today, that if someone starts bow making with one of these, they'll have done fire hardening, steam bending, and sinew backing at the get go. That's kind of cool trying what most would consider advanced techniques right away.
@Brooklyn-bred
@Brooklyn-bred 18 күн бұрын
Do you have any time for your wife?
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 18 күн бұрын
Howdy. That's an important question because a good relationship is extremely important. Yep, I do. I'm cursed as an early riser so I do bow stuff before my day job and not so much after. Same on days off. I start in my workshop way before the Sun comes up and still have free time.
@Couponuser16
@Couponuser16 19 күн бұрын
John! Hornbows!? Now this is my neck of the woods. Great recommendation with Andi's Workshop. Some other's right of the top of my head are all on KZbin: 1. "How to build an Ottoman Bow - #1" by M.Bitious Projects (turn on closed captions for English instructions) 2. "Mongol Horn Bow - Caagan Chad/Tsagaan Khad Bow" by Nanashi Bow (turn on closed captions for English instructions) 3. "Bulgarian horn bow. Part 1" by Stiliyan Stefanov 4. "How to Construct the Asiatic Bow - Part 1/8 - DIY BOW MAKING" by Y.D. Also, the "must read" book that really does resemble your own is Adam Karpowicz' "Ottoman Turkish bows, manufacture and design". Additionally, Peter Dekkar has done a ton of work for larger eared bows, like Manchu designs. The general rule of thumb seems to be a bow should be split into 1/5 lengths. 2x ears, 2x bending limbs, 1x handle. And then additionally for weight it should be split into 6ths. 2/6th wood, 2/6th horn, 1/6th sinew, 1/6th hide glue. They are very cool bows.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 17 күн бұрын
@@Couponuser16 Holy cow, thank you that great information. I appreciate your time in giving us those leads!
@Couponuser16
@Couponuser16 19 күн бұрын
Hey John, keep up the great work! Just wanted to drop a comment to appease the Algorithm gods but also let you know I just picked up a paperback and kindle copy of your book. I'm really looking forward to reading it. I'm not sure if you are familiar with Adam Karpowicz and his work on Ottoman/Turkish bows, but I get the impression you are one of the "Turtle Island" equivalent. Really like your work, particularly surrounding gull wing and/or high plains sinew backed bows.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 17 күн бұрын
@@Couponuser16 Heya! I'm an equal opportunity bow lover. I always wanted a Grozer bow but the only one I could afford is one I made .
@Couponuser16
@Couponuser16 16 күн бұрын
@@johnjriggsarchery2457 "but the only one I could afford is one I made" From where I'm standing, it's more impressive to me that you are able to build your own. To be a bowyer is to be someone who can blend art & engineering. The bow is the original stringed instrument, after all.
@martinwagnerproductions
@martinwagnerproductions 20 күн бұрын
This guy talks reality
@CrossRootedForge
@CrossRootedForge 20 күн бұрын
Throw your mukluks on and get to hiking! I was going to have a pair built from my occasional trips into the great town of Virginia, MN. But they wouldn't have been of much use now in Oklahoma.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 20 күн бұрын
@@CrossRootedForge Great advice. Wow, that's a shift in climates from MN to OK.
@Solrac-n4t
@Solrac-n4t 20 күн бұрын
Awesome work brotha I've tried a few times to to email ya and for some reason I can't get it to work I am a tech tard 😅 is there any other method to get ahold of you? Would love to share some cool bows I've made ..... and would really love to to have one of your bows
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 20 күн бұрын
@@Solrac-n4t Thank you. My comment section is pretty safe from trolls and scammers. How about finding one of my older videos a making a comment with your email address, I'll get it and then delete it. Odds are, no one else will ever see it.
@Solrac-n4t
@Solrac-n4t 20 күн бұрын
@johnjriggsarchery2457 sounds great
@samfulks4896
@samfulks4896 20 күн бұрын
Appreciate your time and videos. Keep sharing with us. Have a fun day. Joy in all you do. Good to see and hear you this morning.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 20 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 Thank you Sam, have a blessed day.
@Brooklyn-bred
@Brooklyn-bred 21 күн бұрын
You're a pipe! Can't believe you ride a unicycle, I was always afraid of damaging my bow if I darkened it too much, but I luv how dark you got yours, is some of that color from soot?