Hi Chris-no, unfortunately for paddlers but good for the environment, the coal-fired power plant that "fueled" this whitewater course was shut down...so the course is dry now. :-(

Thanks,,,very good lesson...

did you fix it ?

If you don't use the pinky for nothing cut it and throw away 😂😂

In my experience, speed isn't really a problem. At a certain point, you transition from singles into double strokes, and this technique makes that transition alot cleaner than others. I don't use this as my primary grip, but still incorporate it into my practice, because of this.

You ar so wanted. Thank god, I really started to worry if you where o.k. You ar the only one able to show this technique properly as far as I know. I assume it is the technique that comes closest to drummers like Tony Williams for example. only he holds he's sticks at the back. (kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3eme6aVjNumfZY ). The wrist seems to be key. It's very important for me to be able to play along and watch you playing, while practicing this technique. So I watch't this video every time when I practice or warm up. Rick Dior his you tube Channel is my favorite: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXrLg6BrgMmLqJY I believe he also study't with C Elden Bailey. I recently send him a request to check your video and maybe explain more. But Scott is back so i'l be waiting for that notification bell to ring. That would be, Well..you know.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXrLg6BrgMmLqJY Thanks Scott. This one video was crucial to help my study.

Hallo, your first video was greatly helpful and I'd love to see a following one. The information you gave is so precious - and almost impossible to find so clearly explained!

Hey Scott. Sounds cool! Now would be a great time with all the staying indoors and whatnot. That last concept (shifting weight) sounds amazing. I would love to see, hear, and learn about that!!!! I feel like my diminuendos are 10x better after practicing the ideas from this video of yours over the years (as well my wrists being more relaxed). So I'm also curious about Buster's approach to the crescendos in Wrist Twisters, with one hand especially, like his RRRL & LLLR exercises towards the beginning of the book. Hope all is well with you!

I can’t stop coming back to this video of yours, Scott. I hope you’re staying well, and I’m really looking forward to seeing Part II, when it’s ready. Inexplicably, I’m intrigued and mesmerized by Mr Bailey’s snare drumming more than just about anything else I’ve ever heard in music, and anything you can offer in explaining and demystifying his approach will be greatly appreciated. All the best, Dave in Sydney.

Man, forget a follow up video - you need to make a whole library! This is pure gold man! You can't deprive the world of this information!!! Get to it!!!!!!

Thanks Jim-interesting comments. I agree that my hands aren’t 100% identical. I doubt anyone’s are since we all have stronger & weaker hands. But I’m still far from traditional grip, which (as you know) uses a completely different wrist motion. As for using my fingers, while my fingers may be moving up and down with the part of the stick that’s behind the fulcrum, this is a very different technique than the Morello or other finger techniques. With those techniques, you *deliberately* use your fingers to consciously pull up on the stick-or put differently, those are “finger driven” techniques. I’m not doing that-at least not anywhere near the extent you would in those other techniques. This is still a rebound energy-driven technique, and my wrists are still very relaxed and following the rebound of the stick. Admittedly as you play faster a lot of this stuff gets “blurred” and it’s harder to tell what’s happening. The important thing about the Bailey technique is the mindset as much as anything else-which is keeping your wrists completely relaxed. Please understand that I don’t suggest the Bailey technique is superior to all other techniques. It’s effective for me and some others, but it’s just one of several techniques out there. 👍

@@SWriverstone Thank you so much for the reply! I did not intend any disrespect, I appreciate your willingness to share the knowledge. I had the great good fortune to study technique with Richard Wilson & Murray Spivak here in L.A.. I'm sure you're familiar with those guys & understand all the connections back to Billy Gladstone. I'm an old guy, started with Trad. grip, switched to matched for 20+ years, now have switched back to Trad. 10 years ago at the suggestion of Jeff Hamilton. Making the switch from Trad. to matched and back to Trad has given me an interesting perspective on the 2 grips. Thanks again for the reply! I would love to be able to have a continued dialog with you. All the best!

@@jwfatgruv1 No disrespect taken Jim-we're just talking and sharing ideas! :-) And the truth is, I actually don't know much about the techniques of old-school folks like Billy Gladstone, and I'd like to learn more. In my case, I just thought I had a clue how to play until I went to Juilliard and started studying with Buster, and he pretty much tore down everything I was doing and built it up from scratch again. :-)

Hi aBachwardsfellow - delayed reply here - I can tell the whole "fingers v. wrist" question is bugging a lot of people. :-) And I see why-when watching myself (on the video) or even watching someone else, it's not easy to tell how much of each stroke is coming from fingers, wrist, or what percentages of each? Regarding your desire to play a series of notes/taps that are the same dynamic level, I'd say that to achieve this, I would definitely only use my wrist. At no time do I ever revert to a "mostly finger" or "all finger" technique (that is, I never just loosen the fulcrum and use only my fingers to drive each tap). Honestly, I rarely (if ever) practice playing a constant stream of equally loud notes-because to me, it's just not very musical (there are few places in music where you'd ever want to do that). I'm always trying to give shape to what I'm playing-focusing on phrasing (and on drums, phrasing largely consists of varying your dynamic level). To your other question-whether as I speed up I might evolve into slightly more finger control-I'd say "maybe just a little?" I like to think of my fingers like soft "springs" under the stick: after you throw the tip down, when the stick rebounds, your fingers act a bit like a gentle spring to control that rebound. And I use the spring analogy because what your fingers do is passive-not active. (You should actively being *trying* to use your fingers to move the stick up or down-motion and energy comes from your wrist.)

​@@SWriverstone - wow ! - thanks Scott - very helpful! I think the main point at which I'm thinking of playing a series of notes at the same dynamic level is playing two re-bounded as in a double stroke - where I'd want the second stroke to be equal to the first - and this would be occurring at a speed faster than the wrist could accommodate. But I think the discussion may be nearly moot at that point since it would be mostly indistinguishable. I've seen a few youtubes where the rebound control is very (overly!) active and which, while it seems to achieve the desired effect for the player who's showing it, it's definitely not a very natural stroke as compared to what you've shown. The "soft-spring" effect is exactly what you're showing, and I think it's also the key point of Bailey's technical approach - thanks again for sharing it so aptly. I like that you mentioned you like to shape the notes more than playing them all identically - that seems much more musical. I've been working with Ravel's "Bolero" and am wondering how much shaping would be appropriate/"allowable" - could there be an ever so slight swell in the triplets ending on the following 1/8th note? I think in your last sentence you may have meant to have a "not" in there somewhere - ? i.e. "(You should *not* actively being trying to use your fingers to move the stick up or down-motion and energy comes from your wrist.)" - or, "(You should actively being trying *not* to use your fingers to move the stick up or down-motion and energy comes from your wrist.) ? - :-) Thanks again for your well-stated response - and again for this rare and well-presented video - MUCH appreciated!

@@aBachwardsfellow Glad it was helpful! And yes, I did mean to have a "not" in that last sentence. :-)