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@nattyco 24 күн бұрын
I have the Offenbach/Gounod on a ''Great Composers and their Music' record. I've no idea about the pressing but it sounds fabulous.
@analogueanorak1904 24 күн бұрын
@@nattyco OK it’s time to fess up The Great Composers series is the unique series I’m doing in the new year and one of the absolute gems is the Burkett Offenbach/Gounod pressing. I must admit it’s transparency made me sit on the fence initially as it does exaggerate a slightly more cavernous quality to the Kingsway sound than usual in the Offenbach but on repeat listens I’m smitten. Although the Jubilee Fisher pressing is wonderful the GC one is for me a triumph of transparency. More gems from this series to come in the New Year!
@nattyco 24 күн бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 Thank you. That is so interesting. I have a few other records in the series but mostly tapes, as I was in my 'tape period' at the time I discovered the GC's, when living in the States. I'll certainly look forward to your videos of the GC series. Have a great festive season.
@analogueanorak1904 23 күн бұрын
@ Hope you have a great break too! And the information that the GC series did make it to the states is really helpful to me that when I do the detailed video it won’t be just for UK based collectors.
@badvinyl4531 26 күн бұрын
Excellent and informative 👍👍.
@analogueanorak1904 25 күн бұрын
@@badvinyl4531 many thanks for the lovely feedback
@stever7732 Ай бұрын
Would be great to have your thoughts on the records currently available.
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
@@stever7732 A very valid request. It has been quite a while since I did a pithy short video on a current classical release. I do have one in mind for my next video that’s also linked to the content of this one . There’s an outside chance it will be out in December but more likely early Jan.
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Wow that’s a lot of Lyrita you’ve got there. A few things to pass on first Lewis Foreman’s book Recording British Music is fabulous loads of anecdotes and loads of awesome photos of Lyrita recording sessions. I will be having another go at the deadwax Lyrita bit when I next do a Lyrita video as I made a mistake with what I thought was an example EMI deadwax and actually were Decca masterings from late 70s then pressed by Nimbus in the 80’s. If you want more details check out the jackhill comment thread which was really helpful. I have yet to come across an EMI pressing but they resemble the deadwax on Greensleeves heritage EMI pressings with loads of-dashes-all- over-the-place! I think the bulk of the EMI’s went to US.
@davidgow9457 Ай бұрын
Interesting video on Lyrita history. I have purchased around half of the 130 or so vinyl releases. The pressings are normally excellent and prices are sensible in £8-15 range. Sound quality is excellent and music also really interesting with some interesting discoveries eg Cooke. Vinyl better than cd transfers although CDs sound better than most classical CDs. I did not realise some vinyl pressings by Nimbus or EMI.
@davidgow9457 Ай бұрын
Interesting video on Decca’s late 70s and 80s history. With Jubilee label you need to be careful when more music is added to the original issue making the sides too long for good sound eg Karajan Strauss and Tchiakovsky.
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Excellent point. I am going to touch on this subject in the next video as one of the records I will be talking about is an example of a discs where Burkett pulls off cutting a hell of a lot of music while preserving the dynamics. He seemed to be the go to guy for Decca when this is required but doesn't always pull this off. Another Karajan record I avoided is JB71 which adds Tchaikovsky R and J to his mighty Dvorak 8. As the SXL's are very pricey I went for SDD 440 W mastered a great cut which just has the 8th but with it being mid seventies mine does have some raised noise floor from light interaction with inner sleeve plastic. There is a London Jubilee Karajan with just the 8th a Polydor Baarn pressing from the mid 80's G on one side X on the other that I will definitely snap up if I come across it! Burkett's JB59 Respighi I find mediocre due to the inclusion of the Birds on top of Fountains/Rome but not unique to JB as original SXL version has the same track choice issues.
@davidgow9457 Ай бұрын
As vinyl entered the cd era record companies often added music making the sides too long.Decca was not alone , EMI Greensleeves need to be bought with care. CBS were silly to release both the Szell Dvorak Slavonic dances on one LP. Mid 70s reissues eg Ace of Diamonds suffer less from extra music.
@davidgow9457 Ай бұрын
Video is interesting on Decca’s late 70s into 80s history. As regards Jubilees you have to be careful when music is added to the original release since it makes the sides too long for good sound eg Karajan Strauss and Tchaikovsky.
@ThePressingMatters Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for shedding some light on this series. I've a few of them including the Chabrier, which I love. Great detail, fine selections. I always keep an eye out for Ted Burkett mastering. As always a great job! Thanks!
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Thanks Scott for the great feedback. I think for collectors such as myself relatively late to the collecting classical game coming across well preserved JB's can be a real asset to a collection and to a bank balance. Obviously not as exciting as times when the charity shops god's are smiling on you but usually a good solid buy. You'll be pleased to know there are a few fascinating Burkett cuts coming up in the next video!
@davidthom7127 Ай бұрын
I'd love to know what your listening system is?
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Sorry David I missed this yes happy to describe my system. Basically front end is modified vintage to try to get an enhanced version of the sound the engineers/producers intended at the time and knowing the Decca engineers modified John Culshaw's own hifi for him (lucky so and so!) and his turntable was a Garrard 301 idler drive. I have a beautifully serviced stock Lenco GL75 idler drive with loads of headshells for different cartridges for mono, 78's etc. My main stereo cartridge is a bespoke modified Goldring G800 moving iron which Dominic Harper did his magic with changing to boron cantilever and FGS tip. My phono stage is an Icon Audio PS1 and the integrated is a Creek Evolution with Acoustic Energy Reference 1 speakers. I used to run the phono stage direct into the creeks power stage which gave an incredible visceral realistic musicians in the room effect but have now moved back to using the preamp of the Creek after I discovered this gave much more of the Decca USP beautiful resonant Hall Acoustics. I bet Mike Creek would have said "and about time too!" I'm really happy with the sound I have as it really suits my needs at last and am just hoping my kit lasts for ever.
@davidthom7127 Ай бұрын
@analogueanorak1904 WOW. It's obviously an informed choice to go idler. I personally consider that severely compromised engineering, these days, but, your choice. Thanks for replying though
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
@ Yes definitely a very individual multi format historical enactment approach! It suits most of the stuff I love to play regularly but I must admit if I fancy listening to some Steely Dan I use my modded Technics DD.
@musiconrecord6724 Ай бұрын
The earlier pressing history of Decca is covered so much, so to have this detailed information about this later era is invaluable. I have that Marriner/Stravinsky and it is indeed gorgeous. Here in the US many of these Jubilee records (under the London moniker) show up regularly in the used bins. I am still deeply attached to my OG WB and NB SXLs, but these are very viable alternatives to, for example, Ace of Diamonds. And, like you say, spectacular recordings. (I treasure all my Britten LPs - that Mozart is marvelous - done with all repeats).
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Thanks Mark for the encouraging feedback. What we have with the JB's is great bang for buck and a way to augment an ongoing collection as good WB's and even some NB's are getting scarcer, although I think the situation is more pronounced in the UK compared to US. Sonically my preference is the early 70's SPA's but the restricted choice of titles and condition issues mean JB's are usually much less of a headache. I have been accumulating most of the best of the Decca RCA 70's and 80's reissues on SDD, ECS and SPA to do a future video for all of us in the UK frustrated by the cost of getting those lovely Analogue Productions Kingsway Hall Living Stereos. The working title is "Analogue Poundland"!
@musiconrecord6724 25 күн бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 I really look forward to seeing that. Those SPAs and Eclipses were how I first picked up many older Deccas when I was a teenager and just starting my collection. Still got 'em. They sound great!
@analogueanorak1904 23 күн бұрын
@ thanks Mark I have had a little look around the topic of Decca digital and found a couple of really useful interviews in PDF from professional recording magazines during that period. I reckon there are more relevant PDF’s buried away on the net as there are so many questions I have unanswered especially why do my vinyl copies usually sound much better than the pure DDD cd versions?
@PhilGrahamPublishing Ай бұрын
Time to check through my old Jubilee series test pressings from my days at Decca (1978-80)? Never realized this series had any value!
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Hi Phil great to hear from you; from the years you mention my guess is you worked at New Malden? Jubilee particularly in the UK is getting more important for collectors as old SXL's and the certain narrow band SXL's are getting more and more scarce as decent affordable alternatives. I suspect any G's and W's you have on Test Pressings will be the most popular on ebay. You might even get some offers from viewers of this channel!
@PhilGrahamPublishing Ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 I worked at the Albert Embankment head office and used to plunder discarded TPs to supplement others that came my way. All in pristine condition. They include a mixed collection of the JB series and although most don't have sleeves, the ones that do are JB52 (W) - pink label TP; JB53 (W) - final version; JB37 (G) - TP; 41 (G) - final; JB26 (G) - final. Others are all TPs without sleeves, and I noticed an 'A' and a 'Y' in there too, though they may not be JBs? Don't send me up to the attic again!
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
@@PhilGrahamPublishing I'm so glad you didn't reenact the National Lampoons Christmas Vacation attic scene while you were up there! I only have the limited experience on test pressing values of someone who spends an unhealthy amount of time trawling ebay for fun. My guess is the two Rach's are the most likely to shift relatively quickly but they wouldn't command the prices of SXL test pressings. So i reckon add around 5 to 10 pounds to the average asking price of the standard Jubilees. They do shift slowly on ebay and unless rare the one sided TP's hang around for ages. I'm very happy to be corrected if anyone has better knowledge and there is always eil.com. Finally I can't resist asking you don't happen to have any old contacts who might be able to solve the mystery of X's identity?
@jasonhoffer9017 Ай бұрын
I was wondering if you might cover when digital first arrived with the major classical labels, your thought of them and how to determine the source. Not sure if this is an ignorant or overly complicated question. I love all your videos and thanks for taking the time to make them. Greatly appreciated (from Canada)
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the lovely comments. I do have the early stages of plans in line with your suggestion but solely from the Decca perspective. My video productivity seems to reducing rather than improving so it might be a bit of a wait. I have come across a few really helpful web articles on Decca and digital' would it be helpful if I dug out the names of those articles?
@musiconrecord6724 Ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 I second this request.
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Thanks for adding your interest Mark. Also I recently came across your superb TA article that included so much info about Gunter Hermanns thank you so much for writing that one.
@nickmoys22 Ай бұрын
Very helpful summary, and great music choices too, the Britten and Stravinsky are terrific.
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the lovely feedback. Another Polygram era Britten bargain banger pressing worth keeping an eye out for is the London Enterprise Britten Piano and Violin Concerto Richter/Lubotsky which was a reissue done in 1986 and both sides are mastered by Burkett. I bought it as my SXL version Violin side wasn't in great shape and was very impressed by both sides.
@RobertMittelstadt Ай бұрын
Ted Burkett cut JB 55, Kertesz’ LSO Kodaly spectacular HARY JANOS and DANCES OF GALANTA (Jubilee 1979, originally engineered 1964 by Ken Wilkinson). In every incarnation-SXL, Jubilee, digital reissues by Belart, Decca and Eloquence-it still sounds fabulous.
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
I totally agree Robert. I do treasure my JB55 copy and it definitely came close to getting in my favourite 6 choices. Another absolutely great copy I have is an original flawless condition early mono pressing LXT of Kertesz/Kodaly/Janos, cut as usual by Guy Fletcher; totally ignored as mono, nice and tubey early sound and came home with me for five pounds!
@joseluisherreralepron9987 Ай бұрын
I really enjoy these videos; I learn quite a lot. I have some Jubilee releases and now I want to look at the dead wax!
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
I'm really glad you are enjoying the videos. I try to avoid going into too much detail with the deadwax matrix codes in these videos but in certain circumstances like the Jubilee series it can give useful info to help with whether to buy or not. With the next video I'm doing (sadly I doubt I will finish it before next year) I'm so glad I bothered to look at the dead wax of a batch of unassuming vinyl in a charity shop as the findings were so unexpected I ended up buying as many of them as I could grab!
@Tojazzer Ай бұрын
Thank you for the information. I have an original London issue of the Offenbach which is stamped '2E', identifying Stan Goodall not Harry Fisher. Were the Jubilee lacquers recut by someone else?
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great comments. Your Offenbach pressing sounds great. The earliest SXL and CS releases from 1961 have Goodall doing the mastering . I'm generally happier buying early Decca when it is Goodall rather than Jack Law (D) who with Goodall did most of the cutting the early stereos. Goodall seems to me to more frequently overcome the limitations of the earliest stereo cutting heads. It looks like there were a few Goodall represses in the 60's and then in the 70's the mastering for London and Decca changes over to Harry Fisher including the Jubilee series. i have included in the text of the description for this video a link to a lovely oral history by Stan Goodall that covers the relationship between the mastering department and New Malden there is also an hilarious anecdote about Alan Loveday losing his sh*t with workmen digging up the road outside St John's during the recording of the 4 Seasons!
@lollol7688 Ай бұрын
Very clearly explained! I liked the fact that you include for example the covers of the originals! Now i know for which albums to look for:). How do you think the decca weeknd vinyl releases sound ? They also can be found easily and cheap
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the lovely feedback. I've got to admit I don't recall seeing any of the Weekend series when going through piles of vinyl although that might be down to early subconscious triage looking for my favourite labels. I wonder if Vinyl Bliss has any experience/comments as his channel goes amazingly off piste as far as trying classical labels. It looks like the bulk of the vinyl weekend versions are German DMM and I have mixed experience with those, rarely liking the EMI's but enjoying some of the Telefunkens so if I do come across some Weekend's I will give one a go!
@VinylBliss Ай бұрын
Excellent video and information as usual! Thank you for the clarification on the different versions, mastering engineers and pressing plants. This is a video I will need to view a couple times to absorb all the nuggets :) I have had great luck with the Julilee series and will continue to seek them. I will keep an eye out for the mysterious "x" pressings. Looking forward to more info on Walthamstow.
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great comments. Do you tend to come across the UK and Netherlands pressed Jubilees? As I did notice when preparing that there seemed to be variants pressed in Mexico and a US variant London Jubilee (with understandably the crown removed!) I didn't cover the London's as the Discogs list is all over the place and very confusing, it did give the impression it might only consist of Polygram era pressings? Definitely keep an eye out for the mysterious X, when I looked back at all the Polygram new cuts that had impressed me most the ratio of X to V was about 3: 1.
@VinylBliss Ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 Ahh what am I taking about, the Canadian pressed Jubilees are not that rare, I just remembered I had a bunch off to the side. I have been listening to them, They are just ok, a good listen but just a bit recessed an second generation sounding (on white label with red ring), very similar to Viva and treasury . I pulled a holland pressed Decca Jubilee Kertesz (light blue with the red ring) dvorak 4 and it knocked the socks off the Canadian pressings.
@analogueanorak1904 Ай бұрын
@@VinylBliss Sad to hear the Canadian pressings disappoint but thanks for some very helpful information. I'm interested in that Dvorak 4 as my Baarn pressing of Dvorak 5 JB114 is X/X and has a much smaller amount of deadspace left than my other 1970's Decca New Malden pressings of No5 with a positive impact on sonics especially detail. I wondered if your Dv 4 looked similar?
@VinylBliss Ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 Mine have about an inch of deadspace on side 1 and 3/4inch on side 2. Machine stamped ZAL-7628-6G then hand stamped 411 1 ZAL-7629-3W then hand stamped 5 11 1 I'm not seeing any "x'x" in the deadwax.
@jimyan12 3 ай бұрын
"trumbone"?
@analogueanorak1904 3 ай бұрын
@@jimyan12 whoops! Sorry 😀
@markevans7969 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed viewing your presentation. I started listening to Lyrita recordings after reading about them in the Absolute Sound. I still listen to the LPs and never purchased a compact disc. This past month a Hi-Fi and record store in the area posted on Facebook they are going out of business and the owner is selling his classical record collection. He had many of the early monural Lyrita recordings in the RCS series for sale for $5 each. I bought twenty of them, many were Bax, Ireland, and Alwyn.
@analogueanorak1904 3 ай бұрын
@@markevans7969 thanks for the lovely feedback, that sounds a fabulous score, especially envious of the Bax piano mono’s! I’ve recently been enjoying the opportunity to explore the Lyrita’s I’ve picked up over the years and was particularly impressed by the superb quality of recording of the solo piano compositions by Moeran on the B side of SRCS 42 well worth picking up if you haven’t got it already.
@markevans7969 3 ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 Superb recommendation regarding SRCS 42. I did find a copy of this LP in a Phoenix, AZ record store called Wax Tracks in 1986. I'm going to give this a spin tonight.
@VinylBliss 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful and informative video. Very intriguing and illuminating on this small audiophile label. We are absolutely impoverished of Lyrita records on this side of the pond. They seem to be rarer than hens teeth to find in the wild. You may know already but there is a wonderful youtube channel called @ClassicsAndVinyl, excellent full album needle drops played on high quality equipment. Lot's of works by lesser known British composers. He has a great playlist of Lyrita records including the Bax #6 : kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXWcaJ9tlsqdsNk
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@VinylBliss Thanks for the lovely feedback. I didn’t realise Lyrita was so scarce in Canada. I have duplicates of the Holst album from the video and Finzi Intimations of Immortality both Decca pressings both however came from HM Moore’s in London before it closed and have a blank white cover with just a sticker with handwritten details, probably they misplaced the proper covers. They sound fine and i am happy to send them over as a gift if you are interested as I need to downsize but i am as bad as Scott at actually achieving that!
@VinylBliss 4 ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 Oh goodness thank you for the generous offer but I also need to digest so much of what I have and try my best to downsize also. I have an embarrassing amount of recently purchased records that have been little more than spot checked for sound quality. If you must donate them please give to a local young person starting out their collection. I do have the Lyrita Lollipops album that can keep me satiated utill I find some in the wild here!
@Ejlectronics6 4 ай бұрын
I recently got hold of some ex-BBC archive records and there's a whole BUNCH of Lyrita Record vinyl. I'll most likely split the one's I'm keeping but there's tons of dupes, so if you're interested in any shoot me a message and maybe we could agree on something (I don't plan on selling them separately, so I'll bundle them together), otherwise they'll be on eBay within the week. I got into Lyrita by accident, probably through Vaughan Williams (I have a ton of his records) but after discovering Walter Leigh, I absolutely fell in love with this label. I now only focus on buying & collecting Lyrita in terms of classical labels go, then pick and choose from other labels. Thanks for the video. Love seeing more information about this label, they're brilliant.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@Ejlectronics6 Thanks ever so much for the generous offer. As I’ve been really lucky with coming across several small collections my current list of planning to get is pretty small and specific but I will mention them just in case. Holst Mystic Trumpeter/Lure (128) and Somerset/Hammersmith (56) and Maconchy (116) are my current list of ones Im looking out for. I read about the archive sale sounds like you had a great score and good luck with ebaying the lots and making some music fans really happy. Are you happy for anyone interested reading these comments this week to contact you via this thread prior to you getting them on eBay? Just thought I should mention the mistake on my video as far as different pressings which is detailed in the comments. I said the discs with hand etched codes were EMI made but they are Nimbus pressings of late Decca masters you probably know this already but just in case.
@Ejlectronics6 4 ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 Update! Got the records home safely. I have a few copies of Somerset/Hammersmith(56) and I can pick you out the best one. I don't have 128 nor 116. I have a lot of other various ones. I could send you an email with them all if you want? A lot of BAX, John Ireland, Elgar. Just let me know.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@Ejlectronics6 Thanks that’s great. I am interested in checking the list. I have added an email address to the business section of my profile. Please let me know if anything else I need to do.
@smudger671 4 ай бұрын
I can remember buying Lyrita recordings back in the 70's and 80's and the recordings (sound wise) were so much better than the main stream labels at the time. They regularly had good reviews in the HI Fi news and were frequently given top ratings for recorded sound. I have a few Lyrita recordings on CD and they sound really good. One of my favourites is the Arnold English, Scottish and Cornish dances etc.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@smudger671 Yes the Arnold Dances are Legendary on Lyrita
@Andrew_from_Oz_Vinyl_Landscape 4 ай бұрын
I have that Holst lyrita and it’s stunning !
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@Andrew_from_Oz_Vinyl_Landscape I couldn’t agree more. It’s only recently it dawned on me how many superb recordings around this period featured the English Chamber Orchestra. I’ve added it to my need to make a video about that list. Due to my snail like speed of working I reckon that will come out around 2037!
@thomasroth4533 4 ай бұрын
I started buying Lyrita LPs in 1972 and they were always great. Today I have only a handful on vinyl but almost all they have released on CD. I agree that the covers on CD are disapponting and can't understand why they changed them. The LPs were hard to find here in Sweden and they came and went quickly.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@thomasroth4533 Thanks for your comments. I’m not sure why, I did notice when I put together the playlist for this video that the Wren churches engraving from the first John Ireland orchestral album had been used. This seems to be an exception but potentially gives clues why, I will do a search as it seems unlikely this is the first time this has been queried.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@thomasroth4533 Nada, maybe this is the first time it’s been discussed!
@thomasroth4533 4 ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 I can't recall seeing this topic before and I think it is very strange to change covers like that. Quite a lot of the music on Lyrita has been recorded by Chandos and the Lyrita's stil shine. They are better both as interpretations and recorded sound. Boult was a genius and one of my absolute favorites is the Howells and Butterworth album, and the Frank Bridge. Both with Boult. Have you heard Boult's 50s recordings of the Schumann symphonies? Absolutely stunning. Boult studied the symphonies with one of Clara Schumann's pupils. Old Pye recordings so they are not audiophile, but he best sounding is the release by First Hand Records.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@thomasroth4533 Thanks for the recommendation. I have got a fair amount of early 1950’s Gold and Orange Decca LXT’s and it’s the recordings with Boult (nearly always engineered by Kenneth Wilkinson) that stand out excelling the limitations of the technology of the time. A large part of it is Vaughan Williams so I am interested in listening to some of his Schumann. The album art for most of the covers of those records has a superb 1950’s aesthetic using printed letterpress techniques are rarely matched by later Decca album art due to massive reductions in the budget for the art department. I do hope to get a video done about those at some point as in their own way they are as gorgeous as the Lyrita’s.
@jbaldwin1970 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. Shame a lot of them aren’t on streaming except as bleeding chunks. Could I suggest that you show the album cover in full for longer? It’s too quick for me. No disrespect but I’d rather see them than you 😂 Especially as the covers are, as you say, quite wonderful (I say that as a designer…)
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@jbaldwin1970 LOL, as the young uns say, you are right in earlier videos I think I did a better job of displaying the covers and they are so beautiful. I did take some good quality shots of the full covers which I didn’t use in the end. I’m planning to do a short video addendum focusing on some issues with the bit I did on different vinyl pressings so I promise to use them at the end of that video. Keith Hensby responsible for these works of art does still paint and his work is on display www.peterbarkerfineart.co.uk if your interested sadly the nocturnal best ones have all sold already.
@ThePressingMatters 4 ай бұрын
Aww so cute. Lucky kitty gets to hear the best music!
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@ThePressingMatters she often shows a preference for German classical composers but definitely likes the Duke too
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@ThePressingMatters HI Scott as far as the Lyrita video I’m increasing convinced that the helpful feedback from Jack Hill is correct and that two Lyrita deadwax close ups I include at the end are actually two different variants of Nimbus rather than a Nimbus and an EMI.
@ThePressingMatters 4 ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 That could be, I'll take a closer look.
@jackhill7140 4 ай бұрын
The picture shown for EMI pressing is incorrect. The stamper info is the same, in that picture, as the equivalent Decca. That LP was probably a Nimbus pressing using Decca stampers. In the letters section of the Absolute Sound Richard Itter was quoted as saying that Nimbus pressings are always the ones with a raised section of vinyl on the outer edge of the label. “Nimbus England” in the lead out groove simply means that the stampers were made by Nimbus.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@jackhill7140 Thanks for this information that the post 1979 pressing situation is more complex that I thought as far as dead wax clues. I’ll have a more detailed look through my later pressings plus Scott from TPM has a Lyrita collection and may be able to clarify about the EMI’s.
@jackhill7140 4 ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 There are also Philips pressed Lyritas and can be identified by the "Made In Holland" on the edge of the labels. You can find a letter to TAS in Vol. 14, Issue 60, July/August 1989 describing the differences between pressings.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@jackhill7140 Thanks that’s really helpful I know Scott has a complete set of TAS whereas I have none! also I looked back at the Lewis Foreman CRQ Lyrita article which does mention “a post-Decca period of 7 years, Lyrita lost all its production disc stampers, housed at Decca, this was the time when CD was on the horizon”. I interpreted that to be 1980 but it could be later which would then open up Nimbus pressing using Decca stampers.
@jackhill7140 4 ай бұрын
BTW, I have the entire Lyrita catalogue in mostly Decca pressings. I've always loved this label and I thought you did a great job with your contribution.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@jackhill7140 Thanks it was a tricky one to do but one I really wanted to do. I did initially want to also cover the Kingsway session from Nov 1967 that included Ireland/Moeran/Bax/Holst pieces but in the end I think it would have been information overload. I suspect if I do return again to Lyrita I will likely pick one at most 2 composers Moeran/Bridge maybe?
@RobertSebestyen-k7f 4 ай бұрын
and now, they are making CD-Rs:((( (for. ex George Lloyd's wonderful works:(((
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@RobertSebestyen-k7f Thanks I definitely need to improve my knowledge on the digital side. I don’t think I have any George Lloyd yet if you have the time any Lyrita GL recommendations?
@RobertSebestyen-k7f 4 ай бұрын
I have the 12 symphonies on 8 CD-Rs and the 4 piano concertos on 2 CD-Rs. They are very good, and i would be interested in more Lloyd (his sacred works and works for piano) but i am afraid to buy more CD-Rs. I had 3 faulty CD-Rs. Amazon sent me another copy of them, but i just hate CD-Rs. Maybe i will buy Lloyd's other works as flac downloads (for ex from Presto's website).
@nigelmasters8552 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting video. I have been collecting the CD's for a while now, but have run out of space to store them! I have therefore decided to stream them from Qobuz. The quality is excellent. Unfortunately, the LP's have been out of my reach. British music at its best. Thank you.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@nigelmasters8552 Thanks for the lovely feedback it sounds like you have far more extensive knowledge of the digital Lyrita than I have which consists of one! I had to admit to myself that I was never going to find an affordable Arnold English dances on vinyl and was impressed by the CD version. If you have the time do you have any recommendations as far as the digital only Lyrita output as after I really get to grips with my Lyrita vinyl I do want to look into this?
@jennifermartin8628 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I do love the Lyrita LPs, and have been collecting them for years.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@jennifermartin8628 Thanks, its lovely to hear from a fellow Lyrita collector. Over the years I’ve been fortunate to come across in the wild 4 small affordable collections and it’s only on retirement I’ve been able to give these recordings the time and attention they deserve.
@RobertMittelstadt 4 ай бұрын
Killer basslines do get us revved up, do they not? A typically superb and sincere presentation, Simon, stressing Itter’s informed collaboration with Decca’s best techies (who knew?) and with due homage to (neglected) Maestri Hugo Rignold and Norman Del Mar. Lyrita’s missionary service to Ireland, Holst and Bax notwithstanding, the imprint’s dedication to Ernest J. Moeran-a fabulous Lyrita « boutique series » with glamourous period cover art-is even more collectable, and not coincidentally more Irish than (suburban London’s) John Ireland.
@analogueanorak1904 4 ай бұрын
@@RobertMittelstadt Thanks Robert. This video has definitely ticked off an important part of my KZbin content bucket list. Del Mar may be doing another small cameo in my next video but coincidentally as a reward for getting this video done yesterday for the first time I listened to most of my Moeran I had picked up over the years all I can say is Blimey!
@ThePressingMatters 5 ай бұрын
What a wonderful video. You have a vast knowledge and eloquent way of delivering the information. This was a whole aspect of the subject I wasn't familiar with. Bravo!
@analogueanorak1904 5 ай бұрын
@@ThePressingMatters Thanks ever so much for the wonderful feedback Scott I’m so glad you enjoyed the video. One of the most useful references I had for this one is Howard Massey’s book The Great British Recording Studios which is awesome. When Bob Auger embraced multimiking some of the end product sounds very distinctive and enjoyable. I particularly like Duke Ellington’s The English Concert and The 70th Birthday Concert which comes from the period where he went completely free lance and specialised in location recording using his own version of the Mercury van.
@johnkreutz3207 6 ай бұрын
What about RCA German pressings
@analogueanorak1904 6 ай бұрын
I have only got one which I recall a few years ago was disappointing but I was meaning to listen to it again as I’m happier with my set up now. If I get a chance I will dig it out tomorrow and get back to you.
@analogueanorak1904 6 ай бұрын
I have only got one which I recall a few years ago was disappointing but I was meaning to listen to it again as I’m happier with my set up now. If I get a chance I will dig it out tomorrow and get back to you.
@analogueanorak1904 6 ай бұрын
Its a Victrola Red Seal pressing VICS 1037 Tchaikovsky VC Munch BSO Szeryng, Tartini Devils Trill with accomp Reiner. my guess is mid 60's, will have been mastered and pressed by Teldec from RCA tapes. Does definitely have a Teldec signature sound due to this. Very detailed with some lovely moments especially solo parts of VC but despite my system changes still marked harshness/shrill distortion qualities when loud treble passages. Very prominent with the TVC; the DT better balanced from a different session still displays harshness occasionally. I picked it up as v. cheap and condition excellent but from my knowledge now if trying to buy this record again in the £15 range I would go for a UK Victrola. Hope this is helpful as far as your query.
@robertbarclay228 6 ай бұрын
I dig Dori digging Duke.
@lollol7688 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Anorak for these enjoyable and informative video’s!
@analogueanorak1904 6 ай бұрын
Thanks really glad you enjoyed this one. I’ve managed over the last 6 months to get hold of a good number of Decca SPA’s that include parts or the whole of some of the Golden age Kingsway RCA/Decca Living Stereo recordings. I’m planning to do an overview video as these can turn up in charity shops often at very reasonable prices and they can sound lovely.
@lollol7688 6 ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904looking forward to that video. Indeed SPA releases can sound very good, i have ‘the world of Ravel’ which sounds pretty good!
@Andrew_from_Oz_Vinyl_Landscape 6 ай бұрын
Excellent information, thank you !
@analogueanorak1904 6 ай бұрын
Many thanks for the feedback, by coincidence Scott from the pressing matters has just released a video an RCA Victrola releases. One of the videos I’m planning to do covers the SPA Decca label pressings of certain often legendary RCA living stereo classics from the fifties which offer incredible bang for buck when getting Analogue Productions versions are economically crippling outside of the US.
@Roamany-Jones 6 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed your informative video. Just a couple of corrections though, if you don't mind. I am not aware there was ever a UK Living Stereo for Bream's Popular Classics. It was not released in Stereo until 1974 as a Red Seal in the UK. Also your video caption for the RB catalogue number is completely wrong. It should have read RB6593. Hope I haven't put you off making some more of your enjoyable video's, it's just my OCD for accuracy kicking in😁👍
@analogueanorak1904 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback and corrections, the replies section is a useful format for highlighting and recording inaccuracies in these videos. Thanks I had noticed the US Bream Living Stereo in my CD boxset and had assumed there was a UK version too at that time.
@Roamany-Jones 6 ай бұрын
I am lucky enough to have picked up the Original Stereo ED1 about 10 years ago in a charity shop for 20p ! The Stereo sounds stunningly good. However I also picked up Decca SXL 2197 (Ruggiero Ricci) the same week for £2 again in a charity shop. It is the ED1 and that to my ears is probably the best recording of any record I have ever come across both new or old. I have the original mono version of this as well but to me the Stereo is better I pretty much every way.
@analogueanorak1904 6 ай бұрын
Wow great score. It’s really useful to hear first hand confirmation when an original early SXL is a stunner. I think I mentioned in the video that I reckon it really helped the limitations of the early cutter that they didn’t add a filler track. I am fond of my 2 vintage LXT copies and over time my go to is becoming the SPA copy but it does sound like you have the absolute, add to the dream list, winner.
@VinylBliss 6 ай бұрын
Another great and informative Video. I will have to watch this one twice to absorb the fountain of technical nuggets and facts, really well researched. I did read somewhere that UK almost completely ignored the Dynagroove System so most should be free of that blight even if the Dynagroove logo is present on the label. I was inspired to search for UK pressings in my collection and am Just now Listening to a UK Red Seal 1979 pressing of Falftaff/Enigma with Sir Alexander Gibson and Scottish national Orchestra. It is quite nice and has a very sumptuous balanced sound but I would say not as punchy in the loud parts as an earlier Living Stereo. It being a "Bank of Scotland Series" recorded at City Halls in Glasgow and claiming on the Label it was Made from the Master tapes I would assume it is as much of an original RCA pressing as can be.
@analogueanorak1904 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the lovely feedback doing a complete retake was a pain but worth it to get rid of those psychedelic hypnotic swirls on my shirt in the first take. The Gibson sounds a great pick from the late 70’s where there are gems to be dug up. The sound will be I’m sure have elements of the Chandos sound as used their team and equipment. It comes from the same team and time when Chandos did their premium superanalog releases which are rare to find compared with their digital releases but sound lovely. Chandos used Nimbus to press the SA results rather than the standard UK RCA pressing plant used for the Gibson.
@VinylBliss 6 ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 Hello! Yes I forgot about the re shoot, well it came off well so perhaps all was for the best. That makes sense about the Chandos recording team. It seems the Gibson/Elgar was indeed digitally remastered and repressed in 1985 by Chandos so they must have bought the rights. Yes analog Chandos discs seem to be quite rare!
@GaryTrinder-fu2yy 6 ай бұрын
Hi Simon, I was very interested in your commentary on Ted Heath early stereo recording utilising the Kingsway Hall and Kenneth Wilkinson. I was slightly surprised that you diminished the Mantovani sessions using the same studio and engineering team for early stereo sessions. Interestingly, Mantovani was the first artist to sell one million stereo records, and was indeed called 'Mr Stereo' within Decca. One LP that I want to being to your attention featuring Mantovani, is 'Music From the Films' recorded at Kingsway Hall in early 1956, and released in mono that year. The session was also recorded by Wilkinson in stereo as part of a number of sessions in that year recorded in both formats to 'bank' stereo recordings for when the Westrex cutter became available in 1958, when 'Music from the Films' was released in stereo. This is a sumptuous recording of the very highest quality, and well worth a listen if you haven't heard it already. The Heath recordings you mention to my mind are slightly gimmicky, although of high quality. I have many of the 1957/58 Decca stereo recordings which could be classified as easy listening, the early sessions are generally superior to those of the early 60's.
@analogueanorak1904 6 ай бұрын
Hi Gary thanks for your thoughtful valid points about my Mantovani comment. I completely agree it was unfair and totally neglected the pivotal role the orchestra had for early Decca in development of mono hifi and stereo. I’m sure one of my Decca heroes Stan Goodall would echo your views one of his interviews mentions when he joined as a teenager and was allowed to sit in on some recording sessions how bowled over he was with the sound they achieved with the Mantovani sessions complimenting the Ronnie Binge cascading strings arrangements with light use of echo chamber on top. Your Ted Heath observations are spot on too. Thanks for the recommendation I will look out for it as I do occasionally come across Mantovani discs and have been tempted before as they are often in immaculate condition for their age.
@VinylBliss 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this video! Very informative and well researched as usual. Where else on the internet will we see a video about the Decca Stealth Tree? I will have to keep an eye out for some Ted Heath Records!!
@analogueanorak1904 7 ай бұрын
I’m really pleased to hear you enjoyed this one. I imagine the situation is Canada is similar to the US as far as TH availability in charity shops. Ive given some TH pointers in the comments below to true stereo about what to look out for/avoid to separate the wheat from the chaff. One of the really good monos was renamed Things to Come for the US and has a wonderful low budget 50’s sci fi front cover of a conductor in a space suit on a lunar landscape that clearly is some tarpaulin spread over some chairs. I doubt you will be able to say no to that one if you come across it. My next video in the pipeline line is inspired by some of your videos it’s an RCA UK pressings top five, I’m pretty sure you are going to want a copy of no 1!
@VinylBliss 7 ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 Oh my !!! I'm very much looking forward to that!!! Yes we get the London blue backs but I don't think TH was as popular over here. I have the Odd Frank Chacksfield and Stanley Black, and a fair bit of Mantovani but for the London blue backs I don't really recall seeing TH in the charity bins.
@analogueanorak1904 7 ай бұрын
@@VinylBliss I guess that shows how essential the 3 US tours were for creating demand at that time.
@TrueStereo- 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed video. I missed this somehow two weeks ago. I usually pass over Ted Heath at thrift stores. After your video I will pick up the early London Ted Heath when I come across them.
@analogueanorak1904 7 ай бұрын
Wonderful to hear you will keep an eye out for TH records. To increase your chances of getting the best ones I recommend avoid the ones recorded in the 60’s. The other big hitter I was planning to also include but left out due to time considerations is called Big Band Blues which also was later released on the SPA label in the 70’s. SPA is Very cheap to buy sounds lovely but doesn’t have the tubey charm of the original pressing . If you find any monos the ones I have heard sound great, the main mono I am keeping an eye out for is called Our Kind of Jazz which is much sought after by TH fans as it was the only lp made without commercial compromise where the band members chose the tracks to play. The best of I featured in the video due to the cover information I wouldn’t recommend it has a wonderful selection but they crammed too many tracks on the two albums so the sonics suffer.
@LPCLASSICAL 7 ай бұрын
Great review. I am amazed to see the groove so close to the label edge. I have a Privilege reissue and on all 4 sides there is at least 1 inch from the label. England pressing so it is going to be cut from a master tape copy but still I think it sounds reasonable sufficiently so for me to enjoy the music. I have a Rega 2 so nothing special. I don't feel like investing £60 or whatever that set cost to experience end of side distortion no matter how good the rest of the record is.
@analogueanorak1904 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the lovely feedback. I completely agree with your decision, due to your current satisfaction with an earlier and let’s face it considerably more affordable copy. I do think there are some show stopper releases from OS that will give you almost flawless audiophile fun especially now they’re doing repressings that may tempt you to part with £60. But I’ve got to admit after years where £40 was my limit it still hurts to go over that amount!
@grayhalf1854 7 ай бұрын
There's too much fetishism around the early stereo issues I think (ASD, SXL, SAX). The collector in me is very much guilty of it but I can't let it squeeze out other 'less desirable' pressings...
@analogueanorak1904 7 ай бұрын
I think you are taking a wise approach to collecting classical, it’s definitely fun to splash out every now and then on higher status early pressings. Also you can still come across something old, in great condition and affordable in the wild. But the huge drop in price of everything else that’s vinyl and classical opens wonderful opportunities for digging up those hidden gems plus when you discover you’ve bought a lemon it doesn’t ruin your day! A great channel on the sheer joy of off piste classical collecting is Vinyl Bliss, worth a try if you haven’t come across it already.
@FLOWERINGSPIKES 8 ай бұрын
Another great video, you really went in deep with this one, thank you!
@analogueanorak1904 8 ай бұрын
I’m really glad you enjoyed this one, the UK album cover notes for these two albums were incredibly helpful and detailed, such a shame that as far as I come across Decca never gave out this amount of detail on any other release.
@tandmark 8 ай бұрын
An excellent and informative video -- keep up the good work!
@analogueanorak1904 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the encouraging feedback this one took longer than expected so I hope to do a few shorter ones before the next deep dive although I think I said that last time!
@joseluisherreralepron9987 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this...I really enjoy these informative videos. When I was technical director at my high school I used to record the symphonic and jazz bands and used the Decca tree configuration and never had a clunker.
@analogueanorak1904 8 ай бұрын
Great to hear that the Decca tree worked well for you. I will feature in the future a book you may enjoy called classical recording a practical guide in the Decca tradition by Caroline Haigh John Dunkerley and Mark Rogers it brilliantly explains the principles and practices behind most recording situations and includes some fascinating anecdotes from the past.
@robertmorgan9205 8 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable and informative, hopefully we’ll be getting many more throughout the year.
@analogueanorak1904 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the lovely comments Robert. I’m actually about to release this week a deep dive about another quite unique Kingsway Decca session from 1958. This one looks at how Kenneth Wilkinson took on the task of recording live big band jazz. Hope you enjoy that one too!
@robertmorgan9205 8 ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 I’m sure I shall and look forward to that.
@analogueanorak1904 8 ай бұрын
@@robertmorgan9205 thanks, one big plus about some of the music I’m chatting about is available from another KZbin channel in high quality digital format from a rare US reel to reel version and sounds great so I’ve been able to link these up when my video ends.
@djjoeykmusic 9 ай бұрын
Great video Thank you 🙏🏾
@analogueanorak1904 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Joey for the lovely feedback. I’ve checked out your own channel and we share a lot of similar interests. Keep an eye out for my next video about some 1950’s jazz albums recorded by UK’s greatest classical recording engineer in beautiful early stereo and as they were popular in the states you may just come across one on your travels.
@djjoeykmusic 9 ай бұрын
@@analogueanorak1904 thank you for the heads up. Sounds great Thank you and have a day