Only thing missing is Null-C Echo. I want to give her Laguz Friend, and I have the fodder for it... but I will wait at least until early next year because she could be in the next Awakening Hall of Forms.

Alfonse really does feel like the pre-cursor for Emblem Lyn to give us Speedtaker 4 with Great Talent

Honestly my only problem is Dimitris placing. Tiki is just a better dimitri. Both have Dc and flat dr, but tiki has more stats, scowl and her garenteed follow up in her weapon and not in the replaceable b skill. Also tiki can use dragon roar for special dr while dimitri has really problem with the speed checks in Glr/Gust. Tikis refine wasnt great but dimitri deserves to be under her

Byleth is so high it's crazy lmao. They're not that good

Finally made it through this behemoth of a tier list. I think this is the only place I've seen Bernie rated so highly.

Fun fact: i actually use b!celica in mjolnirs strike haha with base refined weapon

I'd say move B!Marianne up to lower A.... No wait, S!

First of all, wow guys, you really did a great job, this list is phenomenal, love this list alot more than fehology's which mind you, it's a pretty good one too. Now for my observations(that probably no one will read, lmao): Cyl1: pretty spot on, these guys just devolved to generics, their resplendants can't even save them from modern f2p units such as Kent, HTakumi, NSaizo and a million of f2p axe infantries, so they're a lost cause. Cyl2: Well, outside from Hector, and maaaybe Celica if you mega ultra cope, all these guys are also generics so yeah E tier. Cyl3: Now these guys are also generic BUT these at the very least don't NEED the arcane weapons, sure they will probably be better with them, but they still have their niche: Alm +1 movement AOE spammer, Camilla with far trace echo gravity, Eliwood's and Micaiah dual effectiveness with some stuff on top, these guys are above the cyl1 and cyl2 generics only because arcane weapons can't replicate everything their weapons bring, yeah there's Celica ring but just as Hardy Bearing seal there's only 1, so there's no harm in using it on someone else. Cyl4: I do agree with everything, poor Claude he's basically the loser of this batch now that most tanks emulate his playstyle but better, he CAN work with his refine just as Satachi mentioned but he keeps falling off. Cyl5: GK take is slightly spicy but I do think people need to understand that anti warping isn't the same from what it was 1 or 2 months ago, there's the obvious counters of Shez and Celica, but there's also Felix, he can just move 6 spaces unhindered by his antiwarp and I kill him, I used to be very scared of him in AR-D but now he's just nothing in most teams, in SD is even more difficult to slot him in because he can't trade kills so yeah, his lack of firepower is his true weakness, good to know you're high on Marianne as I am, she's top 3 galeforce secondary initiator, and well I don't really have an opinion on Marth and Eirika but good that she got some respect too, other lists have been very hard on her when her only real weakness is not having +1 movement imo. Cy6: I don't know why you guys didn't analyze this batch last lol, reviewing cyl7 after this was pretty anticlimactic... but maybe it's for the best since these refines were kinda lackluster overall, the richer got even richer as I like to call them in regards of Chrom and Seliph, Satachi put some respect on Byleth and while I think she's a tier higher than she should... she definitively got a better refine than Tiki, oh boy Tiki just got destroyed with this refine, red (old) nukes STILL kill her even through LF4 and BoL4, however she's hard carried by her class and movement so at least there's potential for her to be good someday(cope) but Byleth I fear... she will be the next Brave Claude mark my words. Cyl7: yeah Soren is probably the best aging one, maybe that tree oc guy will ruin his niche but we'll see, Robin is not what he used to be but even he got some respect and I appreciate that, he might be worse than his kid version but his support is still pretty good, he's basically the modern brave Lucina since his support is easy and straightforward to use, unlike other supports that might be better but harder to plan for(assign decoy or pathfinder) BGullveig yeah I do agree with Rocketgal, she's a bit lacking nowadays, she lacks power for a galeforce initiaror and Corrin... I used to believe she was the worst one of the cyl7 units, she aged horribly in a world with VMyrr or even DMByleth, but thanks to shield fighter and how it benefits fast units the most she got new life so I think she's in a good place now. Cyl8: wow I didn't expect you guys to be so high on Bernie, granted she's better than most people give her credit but ooh boy never expected her to be above Felix and Robin... at least I do agree that Alfonse is by faaar the worse, he doesn't even have a guaranteed follow-up, what were they thinking? They thought that making Ike2 but with a horse and an axe would be enough, nope, he's good now only because of his threat range and modern effects, but he will probably age horribly as most slow units do especially those in a bad archetype, I do regret slightly free summoning him but since I planned to fodder him anyway I think I'm alright. Random thoughts: Enemii and Satachi got into an argument about AoE state in the meta, Enemii concluded that BoL4 and similar effects ruined AoE meanwhile Satachi though it wasn't a big deal and since BoL4 healing caps meaning that AoE was still crazy strong, and I had to agree with Satachi on this point... not exactly because Enemii was wrong per se but he was hitting a strawman instead of the REAL culprit, but luckily my boy Enemii figured it out, it wasn't BoL4 precisely the problem BUT divine vein stone! Ofc!! Finally you pointed out the contradiction and showed the evidence! BoL4 in combination with Stone terrain(and random units with AoE reduction such as VMyrr) are the true culprit, hahaha! But anyway I think I rambled enough already so thanks to all of you for making this brave units podcast it was very entertaining!!

Y'all have clearly have not seen my AoE B!Gullveig AR videos that I've been doing for over a year now 😅

Oh my god this is the perfect triooooo!!!! I'm so excited to watch the video, hope you guys had fun doing it

I'm not a competitive player. However, I do feel that BF Robin synergies very well with Bernedetta's Paranoia effect. She can kill things very reliable in cases where she can't, same with Felix (although Felix can stand on his own without support). B Alfonse is a good fith for Bernie cuz Alfonse increases her damage output.

Pretty good placements overall, but I do think B!Tiki is a little better than low C, she's at least high C or possibly at the very bottom of B imo (only with Laguz Friend though). She actually has pretty good matchups against units now due to the amount of stats in her refine and her statline overall. Her high res and attack stats make Glacies hit much harder than before, so she actually has some notable wins like against E!Ike (tbf she has scowl, but still). Her losses now are mostly against strong and fast units with unpierceable DR (Like B!Felix) rather than just any fast unit with pierceable DR. Braves still continue to be her worst matchups though, especially L!M!Shez right now Her refine is definitely kinda cheeks though, DC should've been swapped out with something like Frozen (or anything to make her get followups easier) or just scowl on every hit. No healing either kinda sucks too. The worst thing about her besides speed really is that she can't use Dragon's Roar with LF4, which sucks since LF4 is easily her best B slot skill. I do think she's at least comparable to fast infantry dragons that can run Dragon's Stone+, but no more than that. (Btw shield fighter is B!Corrin's best in slot skill, but Fjorm still does it better lol)

Gatekeeper bad? I can tell who didn't vote for him during his CYL. Had him working since day 1 and has not disappointed me since. For the current meta I'd say low A is more accurate and should stay that way unless IS busts out like antiwarp structures in AR or a new unit with built-in warp bubble.

In fact and original character story, Eirika wearing special design skirt and bloomer can make She easy evade and freedom move around and comfortable, And that make She can high jump back turn somersault to escape enemy group unit surrounded, But more enemy male units looking her skirt inside, Lucky her bloomer is moderately thick and breathable and deep green, And She ready fight against to enemy male units and training hard herself and that She training focus and take easy herself when enemy male units looking her skirt inside, That why Eirika only wearing skirt and bloomer no wear lower body armour, That She is basic survival battle and save her life. Sorry! I mean her "high jump back turn somersault" skill is like Nintendo famous video game "Star Fox" series, Fox McCould operating "ArWing" Ultra-range fighter spacecraft use the somersault evade and escape enemies space fighter.

Nice video, I'd personally put Brave Hector higher. While yeah he's not the best save in the game anymore. He's still really good! Right now, he's a very good anti-meta unit and can be VERY good as a near savior with the right investment. I gave him reopening and Armored Blaze, and he does VERY well against a lot of the meta melee player phase threats right now. Yes, this INCLUDES Brave Felix since he doesn't have NFU. I'd personally put him in C or B, because he NEEDS the investment in order to keep up. But I think he's far more valuable than Brave Claude who cannot kill anything and dies to everything, and brave Miciah who I always forget is even in this game.

Byleth in A?! You earned my respect.

Poor Brave Celica 😢

I know she isn’t the winner of the refine batch but the refine at least opens the build opportunities and gave her some damage reduction which is what I expected at this point. I was just hoping for at least one more effect here for our favorite smash brothers assist trophy dragon.

I actually watched the whole video. Really nice stuff. Really gave me a new perspective on Brave Byleth. Never would have considered her to be so high, let alone above Brave Alfonse who I was surprised was kind of ripped to shreds.

Oooh this is gonna be amazing

Brave alfonse in b? lol he is S

For the nervousness that Nephenee shows toward her accent and how it relates to Japan (to what I know), Japanese people see an accent as being lower intelligence to the point that it's undesirable for most people to deal with them. In an episode of the TV Show "Monster Parent", one of these parents is complaining to the board about how she doesn't want her child to learn from someone who speaks in a dialect. It's also more shame about being a Simple country girl (we see it in the other alts she has, but in particular with Rinea and Berkut in the dancer banner).

Let’s go legendary Lilina

1:30 Almost like Rath's quote from Fire Emblem Heroes. "A thousand curses upon you!"

It sound better with Sigurd's new quote "If this love is a crime? Then punish me!"

Why no dragon's roar?

I just love how she can deal with Emblem Ike

she invented a new dc refine curse 😍😍

I still regret sparking her instead of Thrasir, because I didn't yet understand the differences between 5* and mythics/legendaries. And then she pity broke me some time ago, making it 10 times worse :D

Is it really a good refine, though? Admittedly, I will say the only good thing about it is the distant counter built into it, but…even I have slight concerns about it.

I love her refine. :D

I was on board with Tiki until I saw 1 year and a half old LHinoka just one shot her, not even Laguz Friend can save her from this underwhelming refine, is such a shame.

She really said "Was that supposed to hurt?" to most of these units

Wouldn’t Flared Sparrow and Occultist Strike be better considering how hard it is to out speed units these days?

We just need Spd Preempt 4 with Phantom SPD built in and some stats.

Ah it was you that sniped me in SD a week ago. I will have my revenge!

I prefer using her with a player phase build cuz winning the speed check now days is pain lol, but amazing showcase.

She was the first CYL unit I have in my barracks. And I only chose her, because of Smash Ultimate. Now I wish I could've chosen Brave Chrom.☹️

5:59 Woah I didn't expect duo Snacki to tank it back like a champ!! :o

Somebody hacked my discord and is scamming everyone ive ever messaged & somebody with a blue check mark that a real verified Discord rep account is up scamming & since the day it happened a month ago ive been emailing Discord every time somebody dms me and says its messaging them. What does Discord do ??? Tell me my email is still attached and REFUSES TO DO ANYTHING while they scam innocent people. I feel like they in on it or something and i want to take further action because people are losing their accounts and getting their bank accounts drained

Feh community : she’s a player phase nuke now. All Great minds thinking alike right now : just like three houses this unit was made for any phase I see fit.

Are you the girl from umbrella academy who play violete and becomes mafia boss o.O

Will you do ones for Brave F Byleth and Tiki? :D

Love his refine, one of the best player phase units imo. So many ways to build him

Really great video! Would love to see brave Byleth refine matchup if you have time and her built

That Miracle leads to a lot of ties.

Why did I fodder his Atk/Spd Clash? Great! Now I want him _and_ Brave Chrom back!

From my experience with him, he just wins any fight where he initiates. His enemy phasing isn't the greatest though, even with his Miracle + Excel

Favorite out of that CYL batch. Miracle effect never stops cooking 💳💳👊

This hero will just be desperate to deal lots of damage.