Hey. No a 13” won’t fit. Definitely not in the sleeve. If u tried the main pocket u could probably make it fit length wise but u wouldn’t be able to close the flap. And definitely no room for a camera

@@hijkl thanks 🙏🏽

Thanks !

Good choice. Much more flexible and particularly for non-camera items it’s the most functional

Yea totally agree. I think it’s been discontinued sadly. But it’s really a great bag

@@hijkl sadly, yes, it's been discontinued. The closest one to this is the Thule Accent 20 L. In design it's very similar

Thanks for watching. I think since primarily switching to “just the camera” no accessories or lenses etc. You’re right I don’t actually use camera backpacks anymore. I use a beanie to stuff the camera in. Other than having accessories, the only other reason for a camera backpack is if you intend to stuff other things into the bag, which makes it inconvenient to retrieve camera or maybe even damage it. Additionally with the way I’m doing it now , tho this could be Fuji xt2 specific, I find that my PN switch toggles and maybe 1 in 5 times I already have my camera run down in battery as it’s been on the whole time in my bag. YMMV

Do you have a particular question about the bag ?

Thanks very much ! Glad you got some value out of it

Hi I’m not quite sure. My iPad Air 4th Gen is 10.9” (9.74” LX 7” W) and width wise (7” side)it’s already flush with the pocket and lengthwise (9.7” side) I could see it have about 1” more room but that would be maxing it out.

Okay it doesnt fit inside the tablet sleeve but when you put it on the open area of the bag itl fit

Thanks! Yes the timbuk2 xs messenger is incomparable!

Hi Ellie. Yes I have travelled a bit with this bag. It’s what I tend to bring *if* I didn’t bring a day backpack. In my experience no matter how light messenger bags are, you always feel the weight because of the one-sided support. I’d say even with this timbuk2 XS I think you do feel it after several hours. That being said since it’s already quite light maybe it’s at least the best you can do as far as messenger bags go. Personally For long outings especially vacation day trips I do favor wearing a backpack to have both shoulders and your back to bear the weight. Especially as you say, you’re gonna bring an umbrella , perhaps water bottle, spare sweater/jacket , and then maybe some unplanned purchases like snack or souvenirs in addition to what you normally bring. Not even just from a weight support perspective but from the larger space, I’d recommend a backpack.

Glad that the Tenba worked for you, although it did not suit me

Hi True Traveller. Thanks for dropping a comment. Glad that you found the review useful. Yes to this day it’s still my favorite camera bag. I just haven’t found one better.Hope you enjoy the bag as much as I have !

It was really great to visit. Definitely will be going back !

Yea I do think there is kind of like a user height to backpack height ratio limit. Like I think those fjallraven type square backpacks sit weirdly on me for the same reason. There is a larger version of this backpack (14 or 18L?) that you could look into but yea otherwise I haven’t really been on the lookout for camera backpacks. Is there something new ?

@@jameskli Gotcha, yea I will take a look at the bigger ones. Re: new ones, I have no idea, I just see a lot of activity in the backpack space. Mostly I look for used packs on Kijiji, so much older stuff available for cheap

Oh nice, I hope you enjoy the bag!

Yes same here. I really don’t like the way bulky camera bags just stick out off your body, especially a messenger bag

No problem. Hope the review was informative

Thanks !

Hello thanks for dropping by. To answer your questions, the case at the top is only hard on the outside and that shell is not removable. The rest of the pocket (inside-facing) is all soft. There are some Thule models where there’s a removable hard tray inside but not this model (but in none of these have the out-facing shell removable anyway). I do prefer it this way, but one thing to watch out for is if you overfill your backpack then you run the risk of crushing the sunglasses from the inside. The bag is designed such that when fully empty it still retains its shape and so the hard top doesn’t look caved in at all from the weight of it. Regarding the zippers, they are regular zippers without any luggage style dedicated lock loops, but there are standard holes on the handles that you can put a small lock on. I like using nite ize s-biners. S-biners don’t really lock a dedicated thief out but it prevents discrete walk-by pilfering since you sort of need two hands to undo the s-biner. Note that only the main compartment has two zippers (to connect with a lock), the top pocket and front pocket are only single zippers. I do think it's a good size for day/city hiking, and it's what I use it for. I think it's largely dependent on your needs, but I think 18L is good for me. I would say the only reason I dont bring it in vacation travel, is because I choose a slightly bigger backpack as a carry-on because I would rather have all my electronics carried on with me on flights, and on day hikes, end up walking around with a slightly too big and empty backpack.

@@hijkl Thank you so much for your thoughtful and thorough feedback. For the last few years, I have been using a brand called Pacsafe. They are supposed to be anti theft bags. Some of their bags are very secure and some are less so. However they do still have some clever design features such as being able to lock them up or be able to lock a shoulder strap of a bag to a table or chair while you are sitting in a cafe. This makes it difficult to slyly steal your bag in a busy cafe. Also some of the bags have a mesh lining to prevent thieves trying to slash open the bag with a sharp knife or razor blade. Unfortunately where I am staying in Indonesia now, particularly in Bali where I am now there is not so much anymore of Pacsafe products. Therefore I will get a more easily available Thule bag. As carry on travel, I usually take a 40l Pacsafe vibe bag plus an additional smaller carry on 15l bag for laptop, iPad, sweater etc. My 15l bag is becoming a bit worn out so I plan to replace it. I saw the Thule Enroute 14l bag but looks a touch too small. I thought the next size up 18l can take my additional carry on needs and yet still make a day trip bag for my travel needs for raincoat, water bottle etc without being overly big and useless. Thank you once again for your great feedback!

Great, I think it’ll be a great bad to choose. Yea I’ve heard good things about the pacsafe but for some reason I never bit the bullet to buy one. I think it was because at it’s more elevated price it was going into dedicated camera bag price territory which was the original intention of my bag hunting so I started overlooking it. But their tech seem pretty useful indeed!

Hello , yes it should. I have an iPad Air 4th gen which is 10.9” and it fits

@@hijkl Thanks

​@@hijkl How about ipad pro 12.9 inch?, Is that fit in timbuk xs ??

@@widarta7 hi. I’m not 100” sure. There is a bit more room in the sleeve when my iPad 10.9” is inserted but not sure if it is large enough for a 12” iPad. The material is stretchy tho so it can probably be forced in. I am also certain that if you don’t use the sleeve it will fit in the main section anyway.

@@jameskli thanks for replying, maybe i will choose S size 😃

Very well put Anthony, I totally agree. In Canada we do have an outdoors store called MEC with reps who do advise based on fit and purpose, and additionally they have pretty generous return policies. It is true though that not more emphasis is placed on wearer’s size but that is definitely a factor. As the conclusion to this video indicates and experience with other bags Eg those fjallraven types there does seem to be a volume threshold where the fit doesn’t work (similarly for me it is about 10-12L too). I’m still hopeful however for a bag design that can do 10-12L backpacks for taller builds because a 10-12L messenger is just as bad ! :) thanks for dropping a comment

That’s great! Yes it’s definitely well worth the purchase and glad to know mine will still be functional after getting to your mileage

No

Are YOU on drugs?

Glad that you were able to get enough from the review to inform a purchase decision. Hope you like it!

Great, glad you got something out of the review. Yes that sitting too wide + being too thick shoulder straps (plus maybe resting too high on my back) are the main ergonomic issues I have with backpacks

Thanks, I'm glad you got something out of it!

Thanks for sharing. Yeah it's definitely a great bag!

Thanks! Yes it’s the ‘eclipse black’ color which looks more like dark gray, and the straps look light gray.

@@hijkl thx