Where do you have him on your rookie rankings? What do you like about him?

We shall see indeed and the key being at such a cheap cost

Yeah he'll be fire at the latest next year

I do agree that AD could struggle for targets and who knows how accurate those throws will be when they do come, but in the end I expect his talent to shine through. It's true that his true potential won't be fully realized in Indy, but I think what is realized will still be better than some of the less talented guys that will eventually have to deal with more competition or poor QB play eventually in their careers. I think he definitely has the talent to be as good at Pittman and if he shows it who knows if they'll make a tough decision later.

yeah clearly the best RB in this class and end of round 1 target

His injury risk is a real thing, but I try not to draft based on injury risk or you'd never take an RB. Lamar and Kyler have been pretty good so far based on contact injuries so it's possible even if you're not built like Allen or Richardson and I do believe he is a far better passer than he's given credit for and has decent weapons in Washington. I think Ekeler will help him get a lot of easy yards and TDs as well.

Very true about McVay. Kyren was quite successful in the role though. I'm honestly not the biggest Kyren supporter in the big picture, but one of those reasons is because we have to ask at the end of each year if McVay is going to semi retire and join the broadcast booth which seems to be speculated every winter. If he were to say for once, "I'm committed to this team for as long as they'll have me" and sign like a 6 year extension or something I'd have more confidence in each Rams player.

I don't HATE Coleman. I just can't take him ahead of guys like Nix, Brooks, McConkey, Worthy although I do have him in that same tier with them.

I personally have Penix at 18 overall. I know it's lower than others, but I just don't like the idea of an asset rotting on my bench. I don't mind taking him as high as maybe 14 or 15 if your league allows for a taxi squad that he can occupy or I would be even more aggressive on him if you have Cousins on your roster. If you own Cousins I'm ok with taking him as high as 12 or 13 since that could become a succession with Cousins likely getting another job as well so eventually ending up with 2 starting QBs through the process. I like Nix better for the present but not as much long term but I do have him ranked higher for now at 13. I like the fact Payton wanted him, but they'll need to get him more weapons eventually.

Corum is actually my RB3 among rookies too, but I just have him much later than the other 2 on my board at 24 and in the same tier as Wright and Davis

We have 2 more videos upcoming. 6 Rookies to fade along with a video on a few sleepers to target.

This is a 12-team superflex, start 12, full PPR, .75 TEP league

I think that is Outstanding! The only question I would wonder is was Bowers available at 1.06 since there is a TE Premium? If he wasn't every pick was a slam dunk IMO including the trade! I have Brooks as my 1.10 so taking him there would've been great too, but if that pick becomes anything above a 1.10 next year and you got a 3rd out of it too I think that's fine and if that becomes a lottery pick you're golden and that's worth the risk for unless that team is like some of Vaz's dynasty teams haha

Ya i like brooks alot. But i like getting future 1sts more so well done all around.

@@FFFreaks Unfortunately Bowers went off the board at 1.05. I would've drafted him for the positional advantage.

yeah, I think Vaz and I agree that you absolutely got the most out of the draft unless you're not telling us that Caleb went 7th overall haha

I agree. Brooks landing in Carolina and drafted when he was taken probably makes him an early 2nd possibly late first now. Based on updated information I probably do take Brooks over Jones now, but it's close since Jones will get a lot more work in the 2nd half than Brooks for the immediate future. Check out the full video! One of my favourites!

Yeah it's a very deep draft year compared to recent years IMO. Arguably the greatest WR draft of all time and you could argue something similar for QBs as well and probably a top 5 TE of all time in terms of career expectations. So yeah certainly tonnes of value in that range you're talking about. If I'm a competetive team I'd definitely give up my '25 1st for the 1.10-1.12 and maybe even like a 2.01 or 2.02 depending on who is available there. The hype looking ahead to next year's draft class isn't the same as the hype that was already promoting Williams, Maye and Harrison a year ago. Obviously there will be your Daniels and Burrows types that come out of nowhere but it's nice when the draft class has a few top top guys to target a year earlier. If you're started a rebuild and stocked up on 24 picks, you did well!

@@FFFreaks 100%, I’m definitely trying to move my 25 first for another late 24 first. In 22 I first started hearing chirps about the 24 class so I dedicated 23 to rebuilding. I ended up this year with the 1.01 1.02 1.07 1.09 1.12 2.02 2.03 and 2.07. We play in a 12 team start 12 so the young depth is definitely key 👌

Damn!!! 1.01 1.02 1.07 1.09 1.12 2.02 2.03 and 2.07!!! That's crazy! Bravo!

haha wait til you see our next video!

The 2.08 for the 2.06 becomes irrelevant and the 4.02 pretty much is, so the question becomes 1.05 and 1.07 for 1.02. That should be Caleb or MHJ for 2 of Bowers, Maye, Odunze, Nabers, Daniels. Do you have an idea of how picks 3, 4 and 6 will go? If you would end up with 2 of Bowers, Maye and Odunze sure, but if you were to end up with either Nabers or Daniels at 1.05 I'd hold. Let's see what Vaz says...

Depends on your roster and league settings. Could you tell me more about your league and roster. Just from a pure value perspective id prolly take the 1.05 and 1.07 side. But i like moving up to 2 if you have a strong roster and if the rosters are shallow

​@@FFFreaksPick 3 will be Nabers, 4 will be Daniels if he trades out of the pick or Odunze if he makes the pick (70/30 odds in favor of trading out), 6-Bowers in all likelihood. I'd probably stand firm if I knew Daniels would be there at 1.05, but the uncertainty is there.

​@@VazziniThank you guys for the insight. It's a 12-team start 10 full ppr, .5 TEP. QB: TLaw, Bryce Young, Derek Carr, Minshew RB: James Cook, Derrick Henry, D. Singletary, B. Robinson WR: DJ Moore, D. Wicks, Michael Wilson, so real need here TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, Hockenson

​@texmextmsl So you are basically looking at mhj for rome and jj/maye. I prefer the package from a value perspective. But if you really want mhj and are willing to risk the trade falling apart id counter 1.02 and 2.06 for 1.05 and 1.07

Thank you very much!

Great minds think alike! Hope you're well

Thank you. I haven't been a big fan of Kyler lately but he's definitely receiving help while others in his range like Herbert is definitely going in the wrong direction.

It is a downer that he'll be sitting for the immediate future, but when he's expected to start he'll have talented receivers that'll all be in their prime. Also because Cousins is aging and coming off an injury he definitely could start sooner than expected as well. I'm honestly not sure that LV is a BETTER landing spot. He does have a better chance at starting this year, but it could also be better for him long term sitting for a year or 2 ala Love. I see what you're saying with Hooker, but Hooker was coming off a serious injury and was always seen as a guy who would sit a year because of his own health. I totally don't get the pick from Atlanta's standpoint though since as stated Penix is NOT Young.

They did. As a Seahawks fan I'm actually pretty happy with Murphy as we finally get a run stopper. Things definitely look good for da Bears though!

yeah, the photo of them all walking away from the site together looked like a movie poster from an action film. It looked pretty bad, but in the end it could've been much worse. If they were all high maybe it was actually the right thing for them to do. Hell who knows, maybe they called their lawyer and were told to do that. In the end unless he's released by the Chiefs his longterm projection will still be solid EVEN if he were suspended for something like a full season.

Thank you very much!

The Kippster! How's it going Joel? Pretty crazy! Glad you found us on This Channel and not our "How to Body Wax Your Friend Channel". Unfortunately we have lost our hockey rink so the CBHK is a bit of a mess these days. Hope everything's good for you and hope we can help you dominate your football league!

Although some say Nix will never be half of PeNix

Thank you!

I not a big polk fan but if theres one mock draft i pay attention to its peter schrager's and he had him going last pick of rd 1. So i think you could feel comfortable tagetting him in mid rd 2 if u like him

I can also tell you that he went 28th overall in our league's actual Rookie Draft which just wrapped up a few days ago. Our next video coming out soon will go over those first 28 picks.

haha thanks. Not sure how much he may have been influenced by others on that one...

​@FFFreaks If you are too conceded to listen to smart ppl like @ericbrumm4060 then you are doing yourself a disservice ❤

@@Vazzini And Bingo he goes to the Chiefs, really glad I got him at 2.01 in our league... oh wait.

I am very sorry about that comment and yes I agree that I lacked sensitivity at that moment. It is certainly not who I am as a person. I was trying to point out a strategic parallel between the movie and the trade move, but clearly I didn't take enough time to consider the reprecussions of the view and how it would hurt others. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone and have thought about that a lot since a previous comment on that. I will do better.

I'm a Swift owner so I'm probably a bit biased but I think he gets a lot of work considering his contract. I was definitely concerned though how things ended in Detroit and then the fact Philadelphia didn't think twice about moving on. I think being on his 3rd team in 3 years this will definitely be an important year for him. Watch him get injured in week 1...

@@FFFreaksyeah i would love to see him get in the work and prove me wrong. a week 1 injury would be horrible for him😅 i’d hate to see that for anyone

people forget that Algiers rushed for 1,000yds in just 210 carries as a rookie. Nothing sexy about him but definitely got screwed when the team drafted Bijan. Definitely a solid handcuff.

Who'd you miss out on?

very nice!

Yeah, whoever ends up in Dallas might outscore him, but it's probably a 33% chance of guessing correctly who that's going to be

​@@FFFreaksobviously it will be a moot point once Khalil Herbert ends up in Dallas! 😊

Yeah, but sometimes Trey Lance does actually go 3rd overall hehe

@@FFFreaks True, but that could have been a case where the smokescreen actually worked and SF was tricked into reaching for a QB most teams had ranked much lower. I should have said there is “often” a QB getting hyped this time of year that ends up falling in the draft.

So jason wasnt comparing him to buying slaves. He used that comparison because in the movie they used buying the fighter to throw them off the trail of what they were really interested in. That was his point.

That being said we should probably be a little more careful when using sensitive subject matter so thanks for your input

I am VERY Sorry. I certainly didn't mean any offense by the comparison. In the spur of the moment I recognized a strategic parallel and didn't take the time to think it through before blurting it out. I apologize for this and can assure you I will be thinking about this long and hard going forward.

I agree it's a forgotten strategy especially if you're in a very competitive league with wiley veterans. Sort of like playing a poker game with the top 8 players in the world, don't expect to win big on every hand. Sometimes you've gotta find those little victories here and there that turn out bigger in the future.

Everyone thinks they know fantasy football! What I like best about having these guests on is it gives a fresh point of view, because we all have blind spots. What I like best about episodes like these is it not us telling you what works and what you should do. It's about hearing an experienced person's opinion and then debating the validity of it so the audience can decide. And to the educated audience it's at least entertaining, while to the less experienced it can be a learning experience as well. Plus, I get to learn from it too! Thanks for sharing!

Are you saying I sound like Daniel Stern? I certainly won't complain about that haha. Thanks for sharing and being a part of our community!

@@FFFreaks Fred savage, I believe was his name.

I can honestly say these guys weren't on my radar before this episode, but I'll definitely be paying more attention now! Thanks for sharing

Absolutely correct on that point. Vaz actually also suggested changing the title and that was separate from seeing this comment so I'm sure you're not alone. Thanks for commenting!

I do get what you're saying but for me 1 QB leagues are all about getting the stars and big production guys rather than the dink and dunks and I think Diggs and Burrow are more likely to provide that, but yeah who knows when Diggs falls off the cliff. Might be as soon as his signs his contract for his new '25 team. I never like giving up a first but I also feel like at first glance the '25 class isn't as strong as this past class, but again for 1QB drafts who knows who busts out as skill guys this fall. I don't hate the deal, but I'd hope I'm the team acquiring Burrow and Diggs over the rebuilding one.

I think a lot of that is to do with the QB uncertainty. They're really in no situation to acquire a decent quarterback until at least next year. Their cap situation is horrible and the best QB they'll end up with in the draft is probably Nix or Penix. Payton might be able to coach them up but it's still a crap shoot. Payton did have success with Jimmy Graham though so who knows if he gets the right guy. I guess the end question though is how often do you see a bottom 5 quarterback produce a top 5 tight end?

Thank you! We definitely appreciate you being on board and especially commenting to let us know as well. We definitely do hope to set up a few leagues through the channel as well so definitely do stay tuned for that!

@@FFFreaks oh yeah set up a free league and then when we're ready put a cup of dollar bills on the line y'all lol

Thanks, Vaz definitely did most of the heavy lifting for researching, but it was fun to do. In all honesty all these videos have been fun to do for us. We're glad you're enjoying them!

If you acquired him in 2020 after he finished as a top 5 QB 3 years in a row (4 if you consider he was QB1 when he got injured as a rookie) then clearly he's a bust as you would have paid full price for the crap that insued. Since then he sat out all of 2021 as well as part of 2022 and then was injured for 2/3rds of 2023. He's basically had the tale of 2 careers. The question is can he ever become what he was in his first 4 seasons again? While there is certainly no guarantee of that there are reasons why a gamble would be worth it. He's done it before. The reasons he hasn't played well have been due to injury and probably rust after a long hiatus, that's been exacerbated by him knowing how the world now views him. One thing I've learned as a sports reporter is when an athlete has a distinctive off year it's usually because of something negative in his personal life like a death in the family or a divorce etc. I'm sure what he went through with the massage stuff has affected his play along with the rust and then when that gets into his head it snowballs and then he got injured. Again there's no guarantee he ever gets his mojo back, just like Russell Wilson but the one advantage Watson does have is he's still just 28. His injury isn't expected to overly hamper his game, so the only questions become: situation, time and ability to overcome. His situation in Cleveland has only improved with the addition of Jeudy and he's going to have AT LEAST this year and possibly another to figure things out. No guarantee he does, but I'd rather gamble on him figuring it out than to bet on say Penix or Nix and possibly even McCarthy and Maye if thet don't find favourable landing spots. I can't say I would sell him for anything less than a late first and if I could get him for a mid second I would jump at that (SF minimum 12 teams). Thanks for your thoughts. We always enjoy other opinions

Awesome! We had a LOT of fun putting this list together and doing this video

Thanks a LOT! We're trying. I think we can, I think we can, I think we can...

Man if McCarthy goes to the Vikings, I wonder if people would take over Maye or Daniels going to the Patriots