If you check the pause menu at 0:02 you'll see I don't HAVE the Fire Arrows - This is a Romhack where the author has changed the locations of all the items to the game (it's a great Romhack by the way...). I didn't find the Fire Arrows until later in the game - so that wasn't an option.

WE SHALL CONQUER THE WORLD! ... Or perhaps just raise some money for charity and perhaps even manage to reach the equivalent of Affiliate on YT... :P

@@rayjchrist We shall do both!!! Believe!!!

Thank you so much! I appreciate it <3

I know right! It's good to see the Ice Arrow actually getting utilised. I can't think of any other way they could have put it to use either. At least Majora's Mask did a better job of making it a useful puzzle tool.

Such a masterpiece of a game!

@@rayjchrist Indeed.

This isn't the original game. It is a modified version called "Gold Quest" where the contents of the dungeons were heavily modified, items moved around between dungeons, NPC dialogue changed, etc, to make the gameplay completely different. It's really fun! You can find it here: www.romhacking.net/hacks/6622/

Haha I appreciate that! I still feel as though there is a secret regarding the birds that hasn’t been made public knowledge yet. He wouldn’t put them in, and draw it into the manual, only for shits and giggles.

@@rayjchrist also, this game is INCREDIBLY good at getting players to fixate on something as "a puzzle" or a hidden mechanic (especially about how exactly all the cards work) in a way that almost feels superstitious. 😁 Rest assured, at least, that bird herding is not necessary to 100% the game or get all the endings. Future secrets may yet be revealed by Shouldice, of course, but we're getting down to in joke Easter egg territory.

Yes! I’m learning this 😁 So many cleverly hidden secrets, I LOVE IT!

Thanks! It was such a great feeling to work it out - and even better to capture it on-stream

@@rayjchrist This whole game is full of those moments its so great I remember working out the flowers and like boom my brain felt good

@@The_BiscuitBoy_PastStream I know right!? And then you start seeing the patterns EVERYWHERE! <3

I fully agree! It's also basically Young Adult Dark Souls :)

I know I certaintly said that line multiple times during this playthrough :D

Thanks! I love the way this game gets you to pull out pen and paper to solve its puzzles 😁

I’m not sure if it is the INTENDED order… because the cut scene in Kakariko after beating the Water Temple points you very strongly in the direction of the Shadow Temple. And you need the Hover Boots from the Shadow Temple to get to the Spirit Temple. But this is why I liked the Gold Quest romhack so much - it has you visiting new temples before you finish previous ones and then coming back to them with different items. It mixes things up really well and encourages you to try obscure tech like this.

​@@rayjchristyou don't need the hover boots though, you can finish the gerudo part of the game without them

@@hylianmono the above comment said the intended order was Spirit (Temple) before Shadow (Temple). You can't get to the Spirit Temple without the Hover Boots from the Shadow Temple. Also, do you need the Hover Boots for part of the Gerudo Training Grounds? I can't remember...

@@rayjchrist i just finished a randomizer and i managed to use the longshot instead of the hover boots, so you don't need them at all

Good for a "no glitch" run, or just for goofing around

I know right!?

Luckily, you don't need to.

Those playing randomisers or romhacks? And those that want to explore and try something different??

Those who want to beat the game 100% I mean I have 90 skulls right now lol

And everything else

It's possible to beat Gerudo Training ground before Shadow Temple...

I think so ya but been so long I don't remember lol, I know there is achievement for getting the gun before sword so guessing most bosses doable with stick

@@The_BiscuitBoy_PastStream i saw that, though I assume if you know all the overworld hidden paths you can probably just run straight to it from the start

@@rayjchrist Hmm very true, I love this game and all its hidden things so much

@@The_BiscuitBoy_PastStream me too! <3

@@rayjchrist I still need to buy the book of from this game

You can! But this is a modded version... But you totally can!

Oh it gets even better. But do be careful, this game can be easily spoiled. I suggest holding off watching playthroughs until after you have played and finished it. Otherwise you will spoil the experience for yourself. … I never expected to be telling people NOT to watch my videos, but there you go! 😂

@@rayjchrist Thanks for the suggestion haha but i kinda watched a large portion of your video lol... i'll still play it regardless!

I had the same experience. A friend of mine, like yours, said play this game, I know you will love it, but don’t watch any videos about it first. So I did. And I’m so glad I followed that advice. I recommend people only watch videos about the game AFTER completing the game, if they’re planning on playing it.

He’s been taking lessons from Smough 😂

It does.

In the usual version of the game, yes. But this is the Gold Quest ROM, which is a fun alternate version made by AndiiSyn, a member of the community. It changes the story a bit and the location of all the items (not randomised, but thoughtfully placed) so that you need to change up the order of the Temples, and start doing some Temples halfway through finishing others. It also changes the interiors of all the dungeon rooms to make the puzzles different and more interesting. It really breathes new life into the game. It also means that you get the Ice Arrows before finishing the Water Temple, and he sped up the tempo of the spikes so that you NEED to use the Ice Arrows on them. Google "Zelda OoT Gold Quest" to find the ROM. For me, it's still the first search result on Google.

In the base game, if you do the ideal path where you only need seven keys, you can get the Ice Arrows with just the Bow and Hookshot. None of the other items are required. But this also means you need to get Epona as soon as you become an adult and free the carpenters. And since you only need to go halfway through the Forest Temple to get the Bow, you should be able to obtain the Ice Arrows without any temples cleared. I think there are some keys that can only be seen with Lens of Truth, but you can find them with trial and error.