This is a total bunch of BS Kimmage is a phony

When talking about Minsk, MK forgets that Crimea was the main cause of Western Sanctions on Russia and less about the support provided to Donbas ethnic Russians.

US citizens are enjoying these long-term benefits of US government policies: Economic inequality, inflation, stagnant real wages for the last fifty years, costly healthcare, an expensive education system, student loan debt totaling $1.7 trillion with an average balance of $38,000, poor public transportation systems, racial inequality, mass incarceration, the militarization of police, deteriorating infrastructure, housing affordability, homelessness, the opioid epidemic, and gun violence. The US military is the most powerful, richest, technologically advanced, experienced, and competent in the world and will fight and defend the US against any country that attempts to take away these benefits from the American people. The US military prioritizes the welfare of the US people and will ensure that they will enjoy these benefits forever. The Chinese population does not enjoy any of the above benefits. The IPSOS 2023 Global Happiness Level Report lists China at number one position with the happiest people in the world at 91%, with Saudi Arabia second at 86%. The US and its allies are prioritizing funding conflicts and spreading its version of democracy to other countries to cripple and slow down their growth. Anywhere in the world, if there is a border dispute, it is usually the result of a line drawn by an Englishman; if it is an internal dispute, it is usually the US fueling it. Difference in implementation of divide and conquer strategy. Japan and the Philippines are cornerstones of the strategy to keep Asia poor and divided. This policy is articulated in the top-secret U.S. Foreign Policy written 76 years ago. February 24, 1948, Declassified U.S. Foreign Policy: Furthermore, we have about 50% of the world’s wealth but only 6.3% of its population. This disparity is particularly great as between ourselves and the peoples of Asia. In this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security. ... that Japan and the Philippines will be found to be the corner- stones of such a Pacific security system and that if we can contrive to retain effective control over these areas there can be no serious threat to our security from the East within our time. Taiwan was added to the Pacific security system after Chiang's army retreated to the island of Taiwan in 1949. South Korea was added after the Korean War in 1953. The attempt with Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia was abandoned in 1975. The 1989 attempt in China failed. The 2019-2020 attempt in Hong Kong also failed. The US makes the rules, and the US and their friends do not have to follow these rules. Since WWII, the United States has started 201 wars, overthrew 36 foreign leaders, killed or attempted to kill 50, dropped bombs in 30 countries, and interfered in 86 foreign elections. To make the world safe for democracy, the US has caused the deaths of tens of millions of people in its conflicts in Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria. The CIA was involved in covert operations that resulted in mass killings of communists in over 22 countries, 500,000 to 2,000,000 Indonesian civilians disappeared in 1965-1966. The 'Arsenal of Democracy' produces 40 percent of the world's weapons. It is a very profitable business model in which other countries buy these weapons to fight each other. The key is maximizing profits without shedding US blood by inducing conflicts between and within countries outside the USA. One client is eager to spend AUD 368 billion to buy a few high-quality used nuclear-powered submarines. This business model's critical components are NATO, QUAD, ANZUS, Five Eyes, AUKUS, and MCC (Mutual Cross-Service Agreement).

Liana Fox, Russia reacted to Georgia in 2018, and it staied there for a couple of weeks, didn't occupy it. So why are you using it as an example of Putin's future intentions. In fact the war with Georgia refutes everything you are saying and it seems you cannot grasp the points why is that, because "Russia"!

Also, isn't it clear to everyone at this point that the only security guarantee that Ukraine needs is from Russia. If Russia guarantees Ukraine's security in exchange for neutrality, means Russia will not attack Ukraine as well as Russia will defend Ukraine if attacked by another party. Russia can do that. No one else can do that.

Russians said they will talk but will not stop fighting. As in the matter of trust, it is the US and Ukraine and EU that have a proven record of not complying with terms of agreements. "Rules based order" and so forth...

Biden just wants to "keep Ukranians in the fight" and die, Scholz refuses to give them Taurus... Why should Ukrainians continue to die?

Samuel is full of shit. I don't know a single Ukrainian, who feels that past “negotiations” were a missed opportunity. 92% of Ukrainians these days vote for the liberation of the entire territory of Ukraine, which directly contradicts Samuels's suggestion about “missed negotiation”.

Ms Fix is delusional, but do folks in this organization even bother with the question of US' purposes? Do y'all assume that the US represents some kind of a Manichean 'good'? 25:23

17:20 ' i don't see NATO' (as Putin's casus belli) Clueless!!! What about Lewinski threatening to invade Crimea in 2021? Or him wishing for nuclear missiles to point at Moscow ? (Munich, one week before the invasion) his big mouth wrote checks that his little fists couldn't cash.😢

Peace was already there, but they did not respect it.

😂😂😂😂😂@Samuel Charapstein... Rand M.I.C corporation top advisor.... ...Liana is completly delusional 😂😂😂...

I wonder how mrs Liana easily speaks about price that Ukrainian side should pay in lives. "I believe that Ukraine can win....", so lets open your eyes and take a look a little.

Mrs.Fix,let Me put all of YOUR FEARS to bed.Russia AT ALL LEVELS,were READY,WILLING AND VERY DAM ABLE,to back the proposal 100%.YOU SERIOUSLY NEED to speak to one Mr.Davyd Arakhamia,or listen to one of his interviews on the matter,AS HE WAS THE LEADING UKRANIAN NEGOTIATOR.You like most European elites believe that THERE WILL BE FUTURE NEGOTIATIONS.Putin himself has put this to bed by stating that the next time that Russia will speak to Ukraine is ABOUT SURRENDER TERMS.Idiots,like YOURSELF have sealed the fate of Ukraine.

Georgia started the South Ossetia war, and it was Kiev who refused to fulfill their obligations under Minsk and then Minsk 2. Zelensky even tried to get the nationalist batallions to move back their weaponry, they called him a loser to his face. The video aired on Ukrainian TV and was covered by The Grayzone. The reason Ukraine cheated on Minsk and Minsk 2 was because they saw it as accepting a loss to the Russia-backed separatists and correctly concluded that it would prevent them from joining NATO in the long run.

Peace will come to Ukraine and Russia once Putin orders all Russian Military to leave all of Ukraine, that means the Donbas Region and all of Eastern Ukraine and Crimea. It is really that simple, it is up to Putin if Russia wants Peace. As Ukraine gets more advanced weapons that can reach deeper into Russia Putin will realize the Military strenght of Ukraine supported by EU and NATO and the USA.

George , you are spot on. JFK said that clearly as an advice to maintain world peace.

Can someone tell me why fighting washing machines this hard and how come washing machines have a advantage now

I had a conversation with a Ukrainian nationalist once about Minsk. He said to me that fulfilling Minsk 2 obligations would be tantamount to surrender. Basically they lost the civil war twice and didn't want to accept the L and the conditions they viewed as humiliating. And this dude takes on faith that Russian objectives were the capture of the whole of Ukraine, the evidence doesn't point to that.

I totally disagree with Liana on the possibility that Russia should be pushed to near defeat before it can accept negotiation. Ukraine does not have that capability to prevail over Russia. Ukraine is short of willing manpower to continue with the war. Giving weapons without motivated manpower is a waste effort. Trust me that 61 billion will not change the battle field situation in favor of Ukraineans. Let us go for negotiation to stop the canage...read about the 1962 missile crisis between Russia and the USA.

a Peace on the Wests terms or Russians ?

where ? that place at best is a brothel , always been.

Might be of interest who funds this institute;- Substantial funding has also come from the Ford Foundation, (has given a great deal of money to left-wing and center-left organizations) the Carnegie Corporation of New York, ( funds left wing ideals - calls its founder a "robber baron" !) the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, ( left leaning or though some sources differ ) and Schumann Center for Media and Democracy. ( Democratic Party and left-wing advocacy group politics.)

Peace in Ukraine is nothing for NATO has been made clear several times. NATO opposed the Minsk agreement in 2015, it was revealed in interviews with Professor Stephen Cohen who followed all communication between the US and Russia before he passed away in 2020. NATO also opposed the peace draft from Istanbul in the spring of 2022 that the parties accepted. The Rand corporation has already written the manual for the conflict in 2019. This is evident in a report on Ukraine 2019 where Nordstream is also mentioned.

Why invite people who have no idea what they talking about? I point specifically to this Liana Fox "expert". There are multiple sources, like Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, who in details describes negotiations in Istanbul. Thus, it is pointless to spread lies like this "lady" does. Her saying that Ukraine loses less territory now than it would lose back at Istanbul is a complete lie or pure incompetence. According to the draft of Istanbul peaceful treaty Ukraine would not lose any of its territory, Russia agreed to withdraw all of its forces from Ukraine in exchange for guarantees that Ukraine will never join NATO. If Ukraine agreed to those conditions it would still be intact and had all of its lands, save for Crimea of course.

Its about can you trust the west, This a talking shop not really addressing the issue. The key point The US and west from the unipolar days wanted to destroy Russia grab its vast resources (the reason for wall street also joined the bandwagon) than go after China and reclaim the west supremacy. The rest of the world knows that is what happening and you cannot fool them and the dragon is grown too big so there is no way it can succeed as USA is reached its peak and is on the way out with 32trillion dollar dept, and with countries moving away from the dollar its not possible to keep on printing the dollar.

*Stop pretending like TAIWAN is a Country... TAIWAN, HONG KONG, MACAU, are just CHINESE CITIES, not Countries...*

No peace anywhere American is involved.

Whose Peace? Ukrainians or.....? The last time we checked, Ukrainians are like Pawns in this Chess game between USA and Russia. They literally do not know what is happening, they are dying in large numbers on the battlefront, in a war which they have no real idea about (other than being told that Russia illegally invaded). They are being told to request for more military aid, and instructed to conscript and send innocent young and middle age men to their deaths on the front line, they have no idea and cannot question but obey. The last time we checked, Ukraine is not a state, but a ramp state, a tool which is being exploited by the west to achieve their Geopolitical interests against Russia. So whose peace are we talking about here?

Beebe is the best

Mrs Fix seems to forget that Trump started sending weapons to Ukraine.

Quite impressed with the balanced talk that happened here. Usually discussions are rather one sided.

Well, Russia tried with Minsk for 7 years, tried to negotiate new european security arangements late -21 and was negotiating again with Ukraine early -22. We in the west was against it every time. Why don`t you burn all your failed policy papers FOOLS?

" obviously Putin started it! "...no he didn't! Yes he did! No he didn't! Yes he did! Why did you have to say that? Are we too stupid to not know your conclusion at the outset? Apparently Russia will be putting nuclear weapons in Mexico, they don't care what America thinks, they're just a hamburger hut with an immigration problem....

How many analysts does it take to change the geopolitical lightbulb? As many as are willing to parrot the US government's narrative.

The speakers seemed afraid to speak plainly and speaked carefuly in convoluted manners because truth is difficult for Americans to accept. The exception is George Beebe.

Why was NATO expansion pushed onto Ukraine in 2008? Corrupt and incompetent politicians, NATO and the Military Industrial Complex need forever wars and enemies. Was Russia an enemy planning to attack anybody in 2008? Clearly no. No, Russia wanted to be a partner of the West. However that was not acceptable since this would not produce wished wars.

The West sabotaged the Minsk Agreements for 8 years. Mrs. Merkel openly admitted that MInsk was just tool to buy time to build up the Ukrainian army.

I'm curious how Liana Fox can imply that Donald Trump would support Russia and Putin more than Ukraine? How is this concretely reflected in Trump's previous policies on the Ukraine/Russia conflagration?

With exception of Liana Fix, excellent discussion. Ms. Fix has no idea that Russia has won war of attrition, b/c Ukraine is running out of men and NATO cannot produce enough weapons for Ukraine, and longer fighting will go on, more men and land Ukraine will loose.

I'm worried , Samuel Shara talk and I have to rewind three times before I make sense that his words are like a soufle , a superb pastry made of hot air obviously a Rand product

Ukraine can stop it any moment

liana is dreaming.......typical German nonsense.

This conflict with Russia has already been decided. The aid only serves to drag out the inevitable outcome. 1) It doesn't matter how much funding or access to weapons they can get, without the human resource, this is a vain exercise. And this idea that it buys time, for what exactly? It's not like all of a sudden Ukraine is going to magically have soldiers. They don't grow on trees. Not even those sent for training would be enough to offset the disparity to Russia. 2) The fact that Ukraine has become totally dependent on the western partners means, Russia achieved one of its key objectives which was to neutralize Ukraine's military capacity. 3) The aspect of the seeming slow territorial gains is also a part of the strategy now that they have substantially weakened the military capabilities they can afford to drag the conflict into a battle of attrition that minimizes loses for Russia while weakening Ukraine. Also this brings the war to a pace Russia is able to maintain for many more years to come which would outlast the western funding. 4) Remember for Russia, for as long as the conflict stands, they have the advantage not only in weapons but soldiers on top of that, their economy is growing because of the war so while this prolonged fued empties European coffers it extends the shelf life of the Russian economy. This novel idea of a Ukrainian fight back is a pipe dream, if they failed to with greater resources when the opponent was still not fully organized, it's unrealistic to expect them make gains. Soon this will fade like the many global conflicts we have.

These people is exactly what's wrong with our world and this conflict. They're discussing amongst themselves and they're all saying the same thing, so disappointing. Expected more!

3 speakers, but only 1 has actual speaking skills. 😑

Hahaha ..... they don't know where is left .....

Russia sticking to agreements? Has the US ever stuck to ANY agreements ever? Ever? Wake up from your deep sleep. Stop following the inhumane narrative. Stop the disgusting human carnage. Stop this disgusting bs.

Peace and Ukraine will never be achieved as long as Biden. And his administration and NATO are in power. I Pray that Putin will show them and end this war on his terms.Thank you, President Putin.You are a great leader that will be remembered in history

Perhaps someone can explain to me, even if Ukraine caved into Rebel-Russian interpretation of Mink sequencing how that would have altered the purpose of the agreement, to reintergrate Donbas back into Ukraine and avoid war? And how in a Federal system could the Donbas minority be able to highjack Ukraine foreign policy and be Putin's Trojan Horse as so many claimed? Neither did the Minsk Agreement propose any such possibility.