I know this is an older vid, but I was able to significantly decrease the hiss/noise floor by taking the CL-1 out of my chain and swapping to the Cathedral Pipes Durham MK. II inline preamp.

There is a reason why the mkh50 is on every feature film set. It is held at a distance to nearly as close as you are. This is part of the reason why the proximity you are experiencing seams greater. You are effectively several inches closer to the capsule on the 50 than you are the 416

The 50 is almost indistinguishable from the 416 if you take put the high pass filter on on the 50 to lower the bass.

Nice work man. Besides the size difference, what would be the differences between the 8060 and the 8070? I see some differences in the comparison chart at B&H: Performance Frequency Range 416 40 Hz to 20 kHz 8060 50 Hz to 25 kHz 8070 45 Hz to 20 kHz Maximum SPL 416 130 dB SPL 8060 129 dB SPL 8070 124 dB SPL Off-Axis Rejection 416 3 dB at 60° 20 dB at 120° 15 dB at 180° 8060 3 dB at 60° 20 dB at 120° 15 dB at 180° 8070 >20 dB at 60° 50 dB at 120° 45 dB at 180° Sensitivity 416 -32 dBV/Pa at 1 kHz 8060 -24 dBV/Pa at 1 kHz 8070 -19 dBV/Pa at 1 kHz Thank you matey!!

The MKH 50 is one of THE VO mics. But your hear (with all good mics) the quality of the room. And you have some hard reflexions there. sorry to say that, but thats the place to improve your sound.

Are there any sound/voice distortions from 40-50cm away and 30 degrees axis on Sennheiser MKH 416?

Different tools for different things. The MKH 416 is amazing for outdoor stuff, and can sound great as a VO mic (as long as you’re in a controlled, well-tuned room (Ex: a vocal booth), but will sound funky in reverberative environments like indoor spaces with bare walls. The 50 is amazing for indoor dialogue, but doesn’t sound great close to the mouth. Buy both and be confident you have most situations covered.

Amazing content man! You deserve more subs. I'm definitely subscribing!

How well would this mic do if you put it out of frame, 18-24 inches from you?

Is this microphone suitable for recording audiobooks? Assuming you pair it with the CloudLifter CL-1?

Hey there, do you like MKH 416 better than MKH 50 for your voice work?

Thank you. This is very helpful. I owned a 416 and used them in a top studio in LA. I am planing to return to the field and I think the MKH 50 would be a better choice. BTY your "Room Tone" facial expression is priceless!

Very well presented and very helpful! I have used the 416 for years, but it is time to move up to the 8060.

interesting how a "boom mic" became a go-to "accidental" v/o mic for many.

The fact that compression has been applied invalidates the test. The fact that you don't know how to adjust for any level differences is a really bad sign. Anyone wanting to hear these mics demonstrated properly should head on over to a channel run by someone who uses them in a professional setting kzbin.infovideos or kzbin.infovideos

It sounds butter smooth on your voice. No sibilance. Is the de-esser active on the dbx?

Any links of stores I can look at for price range for this?

If the male voice is already deep enough it seems the 416 is just right as it brightens the top end.

the mkh50 is waaay too boomy....like heavy on the low end, the 416 sounds way more natural/normal

still like the 416 - love the clarity

So helpful! Thank you my friend! Hope you keep making KZbin videos and never give up!

man this is a WRONG placement (at least for) the 416

Thanks!

Hello I'm working as a voice over and I recently bought this mic so I want to know exactly what should I buy I don't want to pay for things I'm not gonna need it? Please answer my question :(((((

You tried the mkh 8050? Much different from the mkh 50?

I subbed for the interesting way you visually present. Plus I'm a noob and you've been very helpful!

Can we appreciate this guy’s noir visual style? It’s snazzy.

How many inches long is the 8060?

I did a test between the MKH50, 416 and KM185 on my channel! :)

Thanks for that. Very useful. I see that you don't use the foam windshield. Do you find it makes a difference ?

I have the same configuration as you ha, ha (even the headphones), so I'm glad to see this video ! I don't have the dbx 286s yet. In fact I'm looking for a preamp, and with your video I think the result is very good combined with the Sm7B. But I don't know If I'll have the same result as you, because I work on my room and there aren't foams on walls like you. What do you think ? Thanks for your video ;)

Just started using this mic and find it very, very good for dialog.

I use the built-in hp filter on the mkh-50 and it sounds more balanced for close up, correcting the proximity effect. Very useful. You never mentioned that it had this feature or compared it on or off.

ambos suenan muy bien . pero prefiero mkh416

Underrated video compared to a lot of the videos out there on this mic, good audio, good looking video, good presentation of the product in general.

New coating also not that durable....

the mkh 50 doesn't sound as natural at the distances you used for the mics. The 416 needs no EQ while the 50 needs a hpf at a minimum. The 416 is the clear winner in this test at least. It is no surprise as to why the mkh 416 is a universal standard.

I guess it would have been way more useful to test them in THEIR environment that is indoor-outdoor sets and not soundproof rooms. Also the mic distance is probably not a realistic one neither for film nor for interviews. Anyways thanks for the attempt.

Wow! that's quite a massive difference. Sounds like much more proximity effect on the MKH 50

Wish you’d come back. :(

Oh come on, it's not hard at all to apply gain for that mic without raising the noise floor. Any good preamp will do.

Do you really need a Cloudlifter with the dbx 286s?

Got a feeling you're a bit too close to the mics.

MKH 50 sounds waay better. I own a 50 tho so I might be biased.

Hi there! Great video! This was really helpful! I got a question, this doesn't really have much to do with this video, but I saw somebody who did a test with the shure sm7b, and he used the MOTU 828 and the MOTU 4 pre. My question is, how would you connect those to each other? Or do you even think they were connected to each other? He did a mic test with like 6 different mics or so. It sounded so crisp and clean, I'm right now thinking of getting this set up with the MOTU's myself, but I'm unsure if you need both. I hope you are able to help, thank you so much! :)

Cool you have an id14 like me :) I was thinking of getting this mic to help me do some voice overs for my videos. I live in a noisy apartment so it might be a good option for me. The nasal part has me thinking now...I think I have a bit of a nasal tone as well. That's why I like the Electro Voice RE320 and maybe even the Shure Beta 87A. At the moment my videos are being recorded with a Shure Beta 57A just cause I wanted to try out. Anyways I'm rambling. (I already have a fethead)

Dude! The 8060 sounds great. Would you say the 8060 sounds more natural than the MKH-50?

Extensive and careful analysis. Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.

Would love to see a tutorial on how to connect mic to dbx and the features to modify sound with dbx i.e. using noise gate and so on.

Dude. Thank you for doing this. Wow. The difference between the two is much greater than I thought. The 50 has more of a LDC character in the low mids and now I get why I've read descriptions that describe it as having far less self-noise and sounding more muscular. In the context of VO, I think I would absolutely prefer the MKH-50's sound in a narration where it is the sole audio element, or laid back against an ambient background like two people having a conversation in an office, at home, the beach, etc... For a soft voice or for a quiet/somber read, I can see the 50 really doing a great job. If I had to pick one to record a podcast, etc... it would be the 50. That kinda ugly brightness of the 416 is pretty much what allows it to cut through a busy track which is why it's such a VO standard. Just given what I've heard here, for a car spot or any commercial where the client was laying the voice over background music, it would be the 416, but I can definitely see some good reasons to add a MKH-50 to my toolbox at some point in the not too distant future. Again, thank you again for taking the time to shoot them out against each other. Great job!