I have heard you talk about diameter limit cutting a few times. Diameter limit cutting is high grading by most definitions. Silviculturally speaking there’s not a lot wrong with high grading/dia limit cutting so long as you have adequate regeneration potential or advanced regen. Managing for white tails can be “bad forestry/silvics” but it doesn’t have too. You can make a lot of browse in short order by harvesting… but if your not releasing and or regenerating quality trees your not practicing sound Forestry. Not saying you’re doing that, just saying. I think a person can cut whatever merchantable trees they want, so long as you cut the junk trees out as well. Good for deer and the timber resource. There is a happy medium, especially if you utilize NRCS cost share to fund TSI work. Never forget that patch cuts have their place for deer and timber…. Just as long as one can tolerate the visual…. So easy to just wack/stack and meet both resource needs :)
@treestandforestry2 күн бұрын
I appreciate the comment. First off when I discuss diameter limit cutting, it is simply the easiest place to begin pointing people to. When I’m actually marking timber, a certain diameter is simply a starting point. I am always balancing as much as absolutely possible between taking the good as well as the bad. My goal is always to leverage good timber on a project to get the buyers to harvest the lower grade timber. Unfortunately the timber market is in a place where low grade timber at times can cost the logger money to even cut depending on location which makes it extremely difficult to get it cut. In certain markets across the Midwest people are literally only cutting white oak and walnut and leaving everything else. That makes me sick. That being said, I have probably not stressed enough that having timber cut is simply not one and done. There is work on the back end In most cases for the land owner to do, between prescribed burning and further TSI. I happen to be working on several videos currently on this very subject and will be releasing them soon!
@alexandremorisset3302 күн бұрын
Thanks for all the information! I just filled out the form on your site to have a timber basis done on my newly acquired 65 acres in Michigan.
@hsing49032 күн бұрын
Awesome thanks for the tips for my upcoming harvest 18" at breast height. My logger mentioned this but after watching your videos I was able to explain to him that he better only measure at breast height and he then knew he couldn't pull a fast one on me. Thanks to you. 👍
@driftlesshunter92003 күн бұрын
I had an October 21st morning a couple years ago that had all sorts of buck activity. It was pretty much non-stop the first 3 hours, and not one buck walked past one of my SD trail cameras on my property. My best friend slept in that morning, because his cellular cameras hadn't been showing much activity. If you're seeing it on a cellular camera, you already missed it in my opinion. Nothing beats time in a stand. Good luck to everyone this coming season!
@Nomo173733 күн бұрын
I couldn’t tell if that was a bobcat or just a stray cat. Great video as well
@treestandforestry3 күн бұрын
Haha just our house cat on the prowl
@Nomo173733 күн бұрын
@@treestandforestryOh😂. Also just curious where is the area that you hunt?
@treestandforestry3 күн бұрын
SE Ohio
@Nomo173733 күн бұрын
@@treestandforestryAwesome!
@randybutler54674 күн бұрын
I am planning to buy only two acres of land in georgia. The will have large trees 🌳 on it. The only reason why I want the trees removed because I want to Install a road and space where I can put my Rv and my food. Is it possible if I can still sell the trees that been cut down?
@treestandforestry4 күн бұрын
Unlikely. Most buyers require 10 acres or more
@victor-th4qs5 күн бұрын
Logging costs are the same, move in and move out costs, whether it's one tree or 1000.
@treestandforestry5 күн бұрын
Exactly.
@ihateyourusernames17 күн бұрын
Great video. Super informative lecture. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@karabean17 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for this video - it's really helpful. I have a handful of very tall white oaks which I thought I should sell (so they don't go to waste), but I don't have 10+ acres or a bunch of trees to get rid of so now I know not to bother calling around. Thank you for saving me a bunch of time and worry
@aarongoeppner41319 күн бұрын
Enjoy your videos! Hopefully he moves in and gets comfortable!
@wyattgardner355219 күн бұрын
It looks like he bent his main beam down. As in, ran into something to do that.
@hsing490320 күн бұрын
@treestandforestry Thank you for this video! Very informative. Liked and subscribed. I own some land and about to sign a timber contract. They want to pay me percentages of the value the mill puts on the types of loads. Could I email you a question?
Are you in Idaho or what state are you in? I have a few questions and I'm actually going off what my cousin is telling me
@treestandforestry23 күн бұрын
Ohio. I will not be much help. I would recommend finding someone close to you if possible as the markers are so much different from area to area.
@christopherbyler809224 күн бұрын
Nice footage 💪🏼
@benzmaconstructionpalletsd196129 күн бұрын
Can u help me with my property
@treestandforestry29 күн бұрын
Where are you lovated
@BigLock_NCАй бұрын
Thank you so much for what you do, I have 39.8 acres and I'm looking to clear some space out!
@righttobeararmsetc.8492Ай бұрын
The black walnut tree is worth money white oak trees are worth money around where I live those two are the top paying trees
@localcrewАй бұрын
Those are some chart-topping stems. Just subscribed!
@LS_RoosterАй бұрын
My grandmother signed a contract to "loggers" Who paid for 17 trees. On the first half of the day they have already taken 12 out and have ruined the woods. They are only 2 acres in out of 40.
@Marco-bg8jfАй бұрын
Ole timber Jack and prentince
@timberslasher489920 күн бұрын
Thats a Franklin and a Hood
@davidlawton839612 күн бұрын
For sure
@Tangaroa775Ай бұрын
Didn’t see any safety chaps?
@christahylton222Ай бұрын
Do any of them go state to state? For instance, is there someone in Montana that might go to another state to buy wood?
@treestandforestryАй бұрын
At times… usually it is just across the state line if the buyer is located close by but not typically more than 2 hrs from mill location.
@AustinmediaincАй бұрын
How come you didn't mention cedar in any of those categories? Do you have cedar in Ohio? Cedar prices are pretty good up here in Ontario.
@treestandforestryАй бұрын
Correct, we have virtually no cedar in Ohio and no market for it.
@larrychampoux9934Ай бұрын
That skidder is stong very impressive
@stanfordpittman1654Ай бұрын
Awesome
@SkeemieTV2 ай бұрын
Do you work in Oklahoma or know anyone?
@treestandforestry2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I do not.
@BransonCleland2 ай бұрын
You guys take landowners money if we are being honest guys get a good logger and you will be happy this guy is fully of it just trying to get your money for sure seen it to many times
@treestandforestry2 ай бұрын
😃
@robbyjackson4040Ай бұрын
There are plenty of loggers who will screw you too. I think the key with a solid forester is they know what the value is so you won’t be undersold and can manage your expectations in the way the timber is cut and the property is left afterwards. It really depends on the logger, forester, or mill. Basically all can screw you if, it’s just a trade off of what you want from your sale or what risk you’re willing to take.
@BransonClelandАй бұрын
Your right there is but most are pretty good ppl you can normally tell within a few minutes of talk to them
@SkeemieTV2 ай бұрын
just purchased 30 acres and this was very helpful.
@Mason_J2 ай бұрын
I feel like logging has alot of nepotism
@christianbelcourt2792 ай бұрын
Any chance you work down in Clay County Kentucky? Ive got 18 acres i want selectively logged and you seem like a good person I'd like to work with you if possible.
@christianbelcourt2792 ай бұрын
If not, do you have anyone in the area you could recommend?
@treestandforestry2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I don’t work that far south and don’t really have any connections.
@icingonthecake7352Ай бұрын
@@treestandforestryare u connected to Texas … I have 5 acres
@judithr.484722 күн бұрын
I’m in Washington State. Have Old Grown Timber to Sell. I’ve learned and appreciate info you share! Travel much? lol?
@josefmiller3862 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info! When you take your percentage of the timber sale, does the landowner pay you or does the timber buyer pay you directly?
@treestandforestry2 ай бұрын
Land owner. I work for the client and I want them to know exactly what I am getting paid. This allows for full transparency.
@josefmiller3862 ай бұрын
@@treestandforestry That makes sense. Does landowner have a specified amount of time in their contract with you to cut you a check after they are paid by timber buyers? Just wondering what safe guards are in place for you to ensure you get your agreed percentage of sale and get a better idea of the process of payment once the sale is complete.
@treestandforestry2 ай бұрын
The way my sales are structured is that the buyer is required to put 25% down within two weeks of signing of the contract and then my fee is taken out of that as soon as the Landowner is paid the deposit.
@wyattgardner35522 ай бұрын
Sun light to the forest floor! Promote the herbaceous growth to feed browsing herbivores, flowering plants for insects and the insects can feed avians, reptiles ect. Red oaks' acorns are bitter, often fail to produce a crop each year, and that is a very limited time window of food.
@simonaattard78962 ай бұрын
😢😢
@davidbrosky81912 ай бұрын
For every tree there's a little less air for you and me mostly you
@wyattgardner35522 ай бұрын
Air is always air. Never more or less. Are you referring to oxygen level? In that case, nitrogen is wayyyy more the oxygen will ever be. Corn converts more CO2 to oxygen per acre than old growth forests.
@williamstephenjackson64202 ай бұрын
😢
@Chamonix.frequently2 ай бұрын
They do make a sound!😂
@hunter-rl8dt2 ай бұрын
Thanks for getting back to me im in ny Is it usually a days pay or by the trip
@treestandforestry2 ай бұрын
Per trip
@treestandforestry2 ай бұрын
I would check around with some other companies and make sure that that’s what most people do before you agreed to it. In my area, that’s very uncommon
@hunter-rl8dt2 ай бұрын
@@treestandforestry Thanks for the help
@hunter-rl8dt2 ай бұрын
Hi is it normal to have to pay 50 percent of the cost of trucking the harvestdlogs
@treestandforestry2 ай бұрын
Depends, in my area it isn’t but I have heard of some people doing that.
@wyattgardner35522 ай бұрын
The wind storm in mid Ohio that happened in 2021, knock a dozen or so 2ft+ base trees adjacent to our house. If the winds were 180, we'd be dead. Also, Mohican state forest had tornados. The state put up signs, stating it was a tornado and not logging, due to the excessive complaining from the general public. Guessong they want a park like settinh and not a natural forest.
@paul58492 ай бұрын
This video was really helpful. I’m looking at a property right now, and I’m not relying on timber value, but it would be a nice perk! This will help me figure out a fair value for the property.
@michellewilson16572 ай бұрын
We had a giant walnut fall after a wind straight a few days ago. Very thick very tall. I'm still devastated. It was my favorite tree. Ripped up by the roots. My fiancee wants to sell it and I want to prop it up and admire its natural beauty even though it is dead. We lost 7 trees in the wind straight. They were all our 100+ foot trees so our view had been destroyed. I've considered selling the walnut to buy new baby trees but it's hard to let it go. Even for a few thousand. 😢
@matthewjohnson63602 ай бұрын
Let's hypothetically say, some john and Jane Doe, have 30 acres of red cedar, how much could they make by selling straight to a Funiture maker, instead of going through the middleman.
@treestandforestry2 ай бұрын
Furniture makers do not buy raw logs, they buy processed lumber.
@matthewjohnson63602 ай бұрын
@@treestandforestry What about the Amish?
@matthewjohnson63602 ай бұрын
If there is a wood turner nearby. Saly and pepper shakers/mills
@bearridge82882 ай бұрын
I currently am under contract with a buyer that has bought our standing trees. The contract states that the trees must be harvested within 1 1/2 years. If they don't harvest within that time frame, what is the common rule of thumb? I am not considering burning the buyer but feel as though I've lost time on my regeneration of new growth since this project was just a thinning for a major harvest 10 years down the road.
@treestandforestry2 ай бұрын
Typically they will try to get an extension but that is something they need to pay for. Hopefully they put a deposit down when they signed the contract, in which case they do not get their deposit back if the contract runs out and you decide you don’t want to extend.
@bearridge82882 ай бұрын
@@treestandforestry Thank you for your help!
@user-vn6hi2bi3g2 ай бұрын
Non assignment clauses are common and standard for all types of obligations and to not include in any contract is foolish. Preformance standards should also be a part of timber agreements specifying time to complete removal of unused debris stumpage etc. and regrading and finishing standards of harvest plot as a min. to protect all parties. Ray
@craigholland22743 ай бұрын
What part of ohio
@treestandforestry3 ай бұрын
NE
@treestandforestry3 ай бұрын
I work in pretty well the whole state except for the far SW corner.
@craigholland22743 ай бұрын
@@treestandforestry I'm near Wilmington ohio
@treestandforestry3 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s outside of my general service zone. That being said I do timber tax basis and mark timber almost anywhere if that’s what you were interested in.
@Aryder3603 ай бұрын
Thank you! Very helpful. Looking into getting into the business in the pacific north west. Appreciate your knowledge. Looking forward to watching more videos.
@Wingstrat283 ай бұрын
If i'm doing my own clearing for build sites and pasture can I not just haul loads myself to the mill? Skip the middle man? And would the mills pay enough for pulp wood and lumber logs to make it worth my time? I have a mill 10 miles from my property.
@treestandforestry3 ай бұрын
Yes that can definitely work. You’ll want to have them come out and price the logs before you haul them in. Once you haul them in they know it’s more work to take them somewhere else vs taking what they offer you.
@royguidry13113 ай бұрын
So you see this deer all the time. He in your words is constantly out in daylight. So instead of just maybe doing one small improvement you are going to roll the dice and change possibly all the movement of all the deer on the property. So now you possibly have to relearn the property. I don't understand the logic. Unless you didn't ha e that buck as dailed in as you stated. If all is how you say it is I would have nailed that buck then played with the property. Your design is nice and sound and will likely turn out well but you have taken a one year gamble for no reason. Just my opinion. It's not like you just trimmed some shooting lanes or added a small food source. When you are hitting home runs you don't go looking for a new swing coach.
@treestandforestry3 ай бұрын
I am looking long term, if it changes his movement I’m not worried. My goal is that in the years to come I have “traps” set that will work in my favor.