Brian Manzella has a great series on his site called Building Blocks 2.0 that goes into this very concept

Interesting thank you . Handbreak or handbrake ?

Breaking news! Acknowledging your feelings instead of suppressing them is a good idea outside of golf too! I swear golf is just a sneaky way of getting men to learn how to handle their emotions.

Love the pup ❤ AND the incredible session. Great topic.

Not the yips! You are discussing choking under pressure. Real Yips are a form of focal dystonia. Uncontrollable unwanted muscle twitching. Had em for 30 years. The only thing that works is changing the affected muscles. Think Bernhard Langer.

What a cool way to learn about the yips and what to actually do about it!

Noel, I have been watching you for years. I started with your lessons getting on for 20 years ago, and I continue to benefit from your regular tips, thank you. What on earth induced you to film with a dog on screen (and on golf course!!)? Not only did I find it constantly distracting, you clearly found it very distracting (to the point that you stopped filming to remove it)?

Very counterintuitive technique

I did once on a practice round where i massively rolled the handle producing controlled slinging 50yd draws hooks,it was such a weird feeling from normal that i frightened myself so much i never tried it again!

Great comparison, thanks for putting that together. I think in many ways the two approaches reinforce each other, except possibly the follow-thru. Im more on the linear follow philosophy, foley side, but that might change as I improve my swing.

As a long-retired PGA pro I have been studying and teaching the golf swing for almost 60 years. I am sorry but this is "feel v real". There is very little difference between the old and the "modern". You demonstrate this by showing Wilco swing L to L then you do it yourself despite suggesting that it is old. Golf clubs are designed to do that via the centrifugal effect and conservation of momentum, indeed, if you try to stop it, you risk serious injury. All good players do it on a full swing except when they hit the ball and take a huge divot in which case the club may not roll over. We cannot "hold back" the centrifugal effect which is what causes L to L, the face to square up and, of course, is essential for club head speed. The main difference between old and "modern" is that most players hit the ball much harder nowadays, particularly with their shoulders. The reason that they do this is that they can! 50 years ago, if you swung a driver like Scheffler or Bryson you would have air shots. Persimmon drivers had tiny sweet spots. Half an inch of centre was a complete mis-hit. Nowadays it is 300 yards down the middle. That is fine, probably good for the game though it does mean beginners often do not learn to control the club. In my day, you were often single figures before you could play a driver. Hitting hard means turning the shoulders further and faster on the follow through. This changes the plane a bit which is what reduces your hook. Modern pros often swing from the inside but produce a fade. McIlroy does both with just an aim and rhythm change though it upsets his short iron play. Hitting hard also produces more strain on the back so many pros have serious back problems in their early 20s (Zalatoris, Woods, Cantlay, Morikawa). They will not be playing good golf into their 50s and 60s like Snead, Nicklaus, Watson, Mickelson, all big hitters of their day. Please don't take this personally, all pros are teaching this stuff now, probably because they did not study basic physics at school. I have a go at them all. I studied physics and applied maths, which is why I understand the swing now, with the aid of slow motion videos, not available when I was teaching and playing.

Tough part about this is feel isn’t vs. real. This feel is idiosyncratically applicable to golfers with certain matchups, which I appreciate you mentioning

Fantastic. Two months into recovering from hip replacement surgery, I just started hitting balls again this past week. New movement patterns on the way .... determined to recover my movement AND improve my game for the coming spring. 😎👍

Does Foley’s drill promote more of a fade than a draw?

Literally did this today got a perfect impact and draws or a small block every time. It makes since why golfers finish the way they do now. I couldn't stop the force from spinning m'y body around

Hi Noel, I found this to be a great explanation of the stabilized swing rather than the basic L - L method. I have always been trying different swing mechanics in the hope of getting better and becoming more consistent. Can you recommend trying this by a 80 year old, who was a fairly good player in the past, but is now struggling particularly with getting any distance. Your ability to put over complex swing mechanics is a great Talent. Thanks for your valuable video lessons. Mark

I really enjoyed that! Great explanation across the two Wilco videos. I have always struggled with clubface and path control. Notably too shallow and inside out with an open face. I am going down the physio route this winter rather than coaching. Just had a screening which was incredibly insightful to understand my personal physical limitations, starts to make sense why i cant move in a particular way! I'll get back on the coaching once I've done some physical work via a fitness program. Thank you for the insight and for sharing your wisdom 🙏🏻👍🏻 Very well articulated as usual.

Noel, that was bloody awesome. I learned that "L to L" swing years ago and I struggle with path and face control so I have the massive block cut and the nightmarish pull hook. Now, after watching the video, I have something to work on. Thanks heaps!!

Great video Noel. This is what you had me working on last week at Monte Rei, which was fantastic. Highly recommend the trip to anybody else thinking about it. As for the motion, i really appreciated the way you taught it - couple of key positions, then stop overthinking and let your body self organise. Simpler and more athletic than i thought! I also really appreciate your humility as a coach. It might not be as good at generating clicks and views but it's more meaningful and authentic.

Observe the gesturing with his right hand while describing the feeling of the move ... I would offer that: Pete Cowen's description of "push the right hand down" (while turning) ... is the same movement pattern that you are now (2024) observing in Wilco N's swing ...

I was swinging like that for a while, and it felt really good, but then some days it would just go all wrong and I started to doubt myself. Disaster! But thanks Dr. Noel, I'm gonna give it another shot.

That motion actually makes perfect sense, it would seem to be the natural motion (aka Physiscs) of the clubhead following its natural path ...

Always the most, fatastic way of sharing such a complicated subject. 👏👏

I wish !

Why not toe down chip with a putting stroke?

What a remarkably good teacher you are…To understand the concept so well and convey it in a very condensed way 👏. I have recently bought the Prosendr and I hope that your explanation is going to helping me more efficiently on my journey. Thank you.

For the weekender putt it or putt it with a hybrid, let's make a hard game easier for the regulars that are 99% of the golfers

Or just chip it. Pretty simple pitch

Inadvertently I had been thinking how to resolve what is discussed here. At last this video is helpful in understanding what underpins the basics of how and why the golf club releases. Excellent work.

The wrist should respond to how the club moves rather than moving the club with the wrist

The problem starts when you mix it up 😢

Did not hear an opinion about it addressing your problem

I have one, hands at the top of the back swing fixed. The impact is really hard, they tell you to swing from P6 to impact it is really hard from that position

As Moe Norman would say….just hit the ball straight

What are player Luke is. Does he have a channel of his own?

It's that old comment, I need a lob/sand wedge if I need to go over something like 45° loft isn't enough to get the ball in the air.

I worked with PC and his philosophy is - keep it simple - keep it minimal- PC is also very good on chipping where he advocates using natural forces ( gravity ) and that one piece of advice and how to counter act the force of gravity on the club with the use of your body - has made a huge difference to my chipping and pitching after years of frustration- But foley has good points too - he focuses a lot on the numbers !! Trackman etc - Don’t buy too much into any of this - they are working with world class golfers who are already highly trained no matter what ideology you give them - don’t forget that !!

Excellent instruction. No one has ever demonstrated the downsing move as well as you have. Makes sense, and a must do drill at the range. Thank you.

Dear God........I actually tried that "beach ball /legs" drill. Great lesson. Keep up the great work.

Excellent drill. Makes more sense than trying to start on the ground.

Looks like a baby fade is the outcome. Does Pete recommend a neutral grip?

At least with Pete, you can finally give up on all the shallowing nonsense. I'm going with Pete. I think with Pete, it helps to stand tall at impact, like Louis Oosthuizen.

Louis Oosthuizen is in the Cowan camp. You can literally see his right arm working down to impact, with the shaft quite steep.

Hi Doc, I have a question. I started to hit balls without grounding the club. It turned out to be very difficult at the initial stage, but the outcome is amazing. My contact has improved dramatically. My tempo is better. I feel braced and more core aware. What's your take on that? For me, it's a game changer. I am a consistent 6 hcp. Best regards.

X-factor funded more orthopedic surgeon second homes than any other golf swing idea in the last 30 years.

Neither of them as clued up on the golf swing as Mac O Grady !

Not unbiased you get a commission. Mine arrived broken and they refuse to refund me. My unbiased opinion is they stole my money.

Foley #1 ? NO.

i am going to roll it out of the divot.

Muddy ??