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@Angelo_Trifilio 25 минут бұрын
Thank you for the honest review. Gyeon still has much to learn from the rinseless world. Talking about rinseless products, you should try and review the Labocosmetica's 3pH system (Preludio Alkaline, Preludio Acidic and Idrosave). There are very few reviews on youtube (I counted 2), but the products are very good and I believe they reached the American market a few months ago.
@asdf8670 2 сағат бұрын
thank you for another excellent reviews. You're testing makes me wonder if the "wash, clay, seal" method that multiple companies promote as an efficient process could be causing significant damage. I also wonder if the "iron remover as clay lube" process is unsafe.
@seabrew1 4 сағат бұрын
If you really want to push this topic do some tests using Labocosmetica Preludio products - Alkaline and Acidic. That would be epic.
@DetailProjects 3 сағат бұрын
Are you referring the SDS listing of metal eating acids in their SDS sheets like sulfuric acid and others? Well, buyer beware. ...
@seabrew1 2 сағат бұрын
@@DetailProjects i have been looking at the SDS sheets. Just Idrosave and Alkaline. I have both.
@seabrew1 2 сағат бұрын
@@DetailProjects but in all honesty we have to take in account the concentrations these chemicals have. I doubt Preludio alkaline will eat metal once diluted. Your getting a lot of traction lately what about the over 90% water that are in all these rinseless even BEFORE they are even diluted even more? That's why they need help most of the time. So i would like for you to review Alkaline preludio...thanks. Smells fantastic!
@DetailProjects Сағат бұрын
If I'm tracking with you, your thought process is that adding more water would somehow "over-dilute" the chemical's effectiveness hazard or somehow downgrade the chemical effectiveness. Truley depended upon the chemical-by-chemical classification basis but not always as a chemical can be overdiluted to minimize its effects as applied to a surface. I will answer your question with a question, why did this RW product impact the hydrophobics of the basic sealant LSP even though it was further diluted to 32:1 to 256:1 beyond the bottle being 90% water? That should have been an aha moment showing how strong a chemical can or could be even in minimal or even a minute concentration(s) percentage(s) in a chemical formulation even if diluted further. Meaning this class of chemical or named chemical - over dilution remained negative on the chemical allowing it to break down the LSP's hydrophobics. Not sure if I'm describing the concept well enough. ...
@seabrew1 53 минут бұрын
@@DetailProjects "If I'm tracking with you, your thought process is that adding more water would somehow "over-dilute" the chemical's effectiveness hazard or somehow downgrade the chemical effectiveness." Yes that's what i'm saying. Just like you have shown when diluting some of the rinseless products at 1:128 changed its effectiveness. So i don't get this statement. Diluting most detailing chemicals will decrease its effectiveness.. you already shown that... i have a question for you. Do you still use rinsless products? If so what ones?
@javigarcia3823 5 сағат бұрын
Great job. Please keep the testing going with other brands. Finally someone is doing an honest review of products.
@CJ_Detailer 6 сағат бұрын
Another great video!! Thank you for all the hard work that has went into this series so far. I look forward to the rest of the upcoming rinseless washes. Two questions, please. First, are there any concerns about what is left in your garage AFTER you finish the rinseless washes. If your kids/family come into the garage after the garage has dried, is there any chemical reside leftover that should be of a concern? Second (and this is a sincere question), are our hands more sensitive to chemicals than other parts of your body? I’ve seen a lot of people who will wear gloves to wash but then wear crocs (or sandals with socks 😊) or have a the wash chemicals splash on their shirt/pants. While I understand our hands are in the rinseless more often, are you not as concerned with the chemicals being on other parts of your skin?
@DetailProjects 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you for watching and you bring up legitimate points! First off let’s establish that no chemical is safe. From a parental standpoint i personally don’t let my kids hang out in my garage period. There are too many risks with what I store in my garage in terms of chemicals. It’s always best practice is to clean all your tools and rinse out your garage floors, yes even after a Rinseless Wash. To your second question I’ll be first to admit that I’m guilty about wearing my sandles with socks when testing products 🤭 . It’s not best practice and I should actually wear shoes, however (and not making any excuses) a splash on my sock or pants is not as severe as dunking bare hands in a chemical solution all day. The risks are far greater when your skin (any part of your body) is in direct contact with a chemical solution without PPE, hence always referring to SDS for PPE requirements.
@klasseact6663 8 сағат бұрын
I've been using multiple towels in the solution bucket for quite some now, but only when the car is dusty, when its a little "worse" I use 2BM method WITH grit guards AND ALWAYS pre-treat each panel❗️ So many "You Tube experts" just use 1BM and that's just insane, safe methods...AWAYS, a little effort goes a looooong way📣
@joevanseeters2873 11 сағат бұрын
This man is an absolute genius when it comes to doing testing on various products! He brings out the strong points or negatives of products and makes you think about things you never thought of when dealing with various detailing products, showing that much of what is known about detailing products truly is a lot of HYPE! Of course, people have to make their own determinations about products and may love using something, but it's nice to see some real world testing that proves that some of these products do not do what they claim they can do, or they don't perform nearly as well as they are hyped to be. There are so many new rinseless washes on the market these days, it's a difficult area of detailing to figure out which one actually is the best one to purchase so I take a lot of faith in what this gentleman says because it does make sense. It's very interesting that almost every rinseless wash touts that they "encapsulate" dirt lifting it away from the surface which we now see may not exactly be the case with all rinseless washes or maybe not any of them. Regular old soap would probably do a better job of softening and loosening the dirt from the surface over a rinseless wash but of course that takes the point out of using a rinseless wash in the first place which is supposed to be for times when you don't have free flowing water. I wonder how P&S Pearl would do? It's sold as a soap primarily BUT it also has a recommended dilution on the bottle to be used as a rinseless wash. I wonder if that product would actually encapsulate the dirt better than a true rinseless? That would be an interesting test against some of them. Is is really "encapsulating" the dirt, or is it simply softening up the dirt and loosening it on the surface? Very interesting test sir.
@hawke525 11 сағат бұрын
Would love to see Owner's Pride Eco Wash
@joevanseeters2873 14 сағат бұрын
These scrubbers are a game changer for interior cleaning. I love my scrub ninja's and have a few different styles, although for me personally I like the rectangular ones shown here because they are just easy to manipulate around the various surfaces inside the cabin. Pair these up with your favorite interior cleaning product (I personally prefer Koch Chemie POL STAR) and you will take your cleaning to the next level and they are definitely a time saver and to me, they just make cleaning whatever surface you are cleaning much more effective. I consider these a MUST HAVE product for any detailing enthusiast. They are inexpensive and they really last a long time too. One of the best detailing tools for the interior. I have the old version and they still work great. I personally would buy this model from now on. I never use the microfiber side, only the scrubby side, so getting these makes sense because it gives you two scrubby sides! Even better. Very much worth the cost.
@pavek 14 сағат бұрын
After such a detailed (pun intended) review I had to subscribe! Please review Labocosmetica Idrosave as it also contents nano sealing and it can be purchased globally, like Gyeon.
@chrisbradley3224 14 сағат бұрын
Terrific video, I do once again have to disagree with your characterization of SLES, which you make sound very scary but is in like half of the hair and body shampoos and toothpastes on the market. Probably one of the least concerning items on an SDS you’re going to find.
@DetailProjects 13 сағат бұрын
Thank you! SLS is regulated in North America and the European Union not to exceed 2.5% in commericalized products specifically chemical or mechanical cleaning products. In cosmetics or consumer products, the threshold is 0.05% at maximum. At this level it is considered relatively safe to those not allergic to it. The concentration level percentage in a product of the SLS surfactant family drives the hazard category its assigned with. Above 2% its a category 1 hazard and at 1% its a category 2 hazard. Under the old hazard categories when it was 1-5 and now 1-4, 0.05% was a category 5A hazard. 1% of SLS and its family of SLS deratives like SLES will and does irritate or burn the skin and the reason it is identified in the SDS sheet and at 1% its a category 2 hazard at that concentration. This RW uses 1% SLES and "why" it's identified by regulatory SDS requirements. The family of SLS surfactantsxare also banned in 115 countries so far as of Q4' 2023-year.
@chrisbradley3224 13 сағат бұрын
@ what am I missing here, I see NIH studies finding 5-17% m/m SLS in shampoos and body wash. The FDA lists SLS as GRAS and no maximum concentration. I am seeing SLS family surfactants at up to 50% in personal care products. I also find In the EU, SLS (Sodium Lauryl Sulfate) is regulated under the EU Cosmetics Regulation (EC) No 1223/2009. Like other jurisdictions, SLS is permitted for use in cosmetic products. In terms of GHS/CLP classification in the EU, SLS triggers specific hazard classifications at the following concentrations: ≥20%: Skin Irrit. 2 (H315) ≥10%: Eye Dam. 1 (H318)
@DetailProjects 12 сағат бұрын
Don't know what your missing but maybe you're just trying to win a losing argument with no legs. In chemical circles NIH studies are known to prove that SLS irritates both skin and mucosal membranes in the nose and the mouth. They found using non-SLS toothpaste does not cause canker sores or gingaval fibroblasts. If so safe, there would be no country regulations or bannings. I believe those concentrations were before the conclusion of the NIH and EU studies. Interesting, if correct, it would not be identified in a SDS sheet as a category 2 hazard at 1%. But it is identied as a hazard at 1% - is chemical science regulatory wrong or not updated and how do explain it being listed as a hazard in a SDS sheet being so low in concentration. ... Keeping google'ing, you'll get there.. Let's just agree to disagree. ...
@mentation4292 10 сағат бұрын
@@DetailProjects there has to be more nuance to your argument. Whats the effect of the diluted SLES not whats in the bottle. The same SLES in an RTU product is different such as in an interior cleaner than a product that is meant to be used in diluted form. Enjoy your content nonetheless.
@chrisbradley3224 5 сағат бұрын
@@DetailProjects post your sources then, you appear to be wrong on those concentrations , also please post your credentials, I work for a big pharma company in product development and R&D. I see MANY products on the market with SLES concentrations above 10% for direct application to skin.
@chiroguy98 14 сағат бұрын
Wow, that was thorough! 😀
@CHCH179 15 сағат бұрын
love your rinseless wash product review! Entertaining and informative at the same time
@DriveTwistys 15 сағат бұрын
Did you find any similarly objectionable chemicals in RRW or Hero? I’m really looking for a rinseless wash that doesn’t leave behind residue that would interfere with my coating and your videos on DIY and EcoWash really opened my eyes. Kudos for such thoughtful analysis.
@DetailProjects 14 сағат бұрын
Thank you! I need to go back and update both the RRW and Hero review videos since I was in the process of finalizing a test protocol anybody could do in their own garage. The purpose of my channel is emperical testing of detailing products. ... My review videos can be long but I do the work for you! Now your direct question, RRW is acid based RW and you will see both a desensitizer chemical and emolient chemical found in the SDS to prevent severe irration on your skin. What does that tell you? Hero uses a high quality non-ionic surfactant that is also expensive from a raw materials standpoint. It's a simple but effective formulation and best used at 128:1 in my opinion. So far from my testing of RW's, Hero and ONR have the best chemical formulations from a safety profile standpoint. I wish ONR would drop the gloss enhancers in the formulation though.
@chrisbradley3224 14 сағат бұрын
@@DetailProjectsDo you have health/safety concerns regarding the polymers or simply prefer not to have them? If the former, I also wonder because I have used many spray sealants that have absolutely nothing listed except the carrier. Of course we know that just because something is not on the SDS does not mean it’s safe.
@NoFix 14 сағат бұрын
@@DetailProjectsexactly ONR should drop the gloss enhancers but following the SDS Hero came out the “best” for me also when it comes to materials that i find reasonable safe and leaves nothing behind. DIY scared the sh out of me with the SDS. xD
@DetailProjects 14 сағат бұрын
Gloss enhancers either water- based or solvent-based can and do alter the hydrophobics of the LSP depending on concentration levels in the formulation. Its very important to keep your intended LSP's hydrophobics high and intact and maintained from the same chemical family of polymers. Gloss enhancers don't last very long but still, "why" use them if you don't have to. ... Not a safety concern for me. Just adding to product benefits that is not needed other than to compete with other RW products on market as a differiation point. You are correct a SDS sheet only identifies known chemical hazards associated with that or a given chemical but that's why I test for a caustic determination(s) of the formulation as hydrogen or O2 reaction through heat chemical temperature exchange and the hydrogen-chain interactions with water as a solvent change the PH and the degree of product formulation intensity for better or for the worst.
@NoFix 13 сағат бұрын
@ yeah i just dont like gloss enhancers myself to get the full potential of my LSP. :)
@greengohm 15 сағат бұрын
Another fantastic review! I am really looking forward for more and I appreciate the massive effort you put into those videos. I am still curious how well the ONR does in your testing methods, especially the marring scenarios. Thanks again for your work!
@joevanseeters2873 15 сағат бұрын
I just got a bottle of this about three months ago. I haven't had the chance to use it yet and came here to get instructions on how to apply it and get a real world opinion of the product. I don't like any scents in my vehicle other than the natural scent of the vehicle. No goofy oil based spray scents that are touted as being good for the interior. The only thing I do when I get into a car that has those crappy smells is get that junk into my nostrils and it's awful. I'm not big on fake scents of any type inside the cabin of my vehicle. Now, a natural leather scent or new car scent (when the car is actually brand new) is the type of scent I like. I have a Nissan 370Z that is 10 years old. It literally still smells brand new inside the cabin after ten years. I got this product to refresh the new car scent by eliminating any scents that may be lingering inside the cabin from whatever cleaning products I may have used or from my wife and I riding in it although I don't eat food inside my vehicle. Occasionally I will bring a drink but no food. I don't want any unwanted oils from the food source getting into my fabrics or leather. I am amazed at what people bring into their vehicles. Or when a person buys a brand new car and the first thing they do on the way home is light a cigarette and stop at McDonalds for a Big Mac! It just blows my mind. With just a few rules, your car can smell like new YEARS down the road. It's all this crap people bring into their vehicle that saturates the interior with all kinds of contaminants whether physical contaminants from products or even airborne contaminants. The S02 Pure is a pricey product but if it works as directed, then I have no problem spending the amount they are asking. Apparently the reason it's so costly is the chemicals they use to make the product being quite pricey, even for the CarPro engineers! I only bought it for my fabrics. After watching your video, I will definitely NOT be using on any other interior surface. I will stick with GYEON Purify line or Gtechniq Tri-Clean for my hard surfaces. Thank you for reviewing this. It made my life a little easier as I won't make the mistake of spraying it on any hard surfaces. I have heard that the new BIO BOMBS are very good. Also, the guy at Bio Bombs said that you can dissolve their "mini" versions and put it into a steamer which is cool and it does the work alongside of a steamer. AND, it cleans out the steamer of any impurities such as lime scale, and any other mineral deposits inside the steamer itself. Supposedly the BIO BOMBS are just as effective as professional Ozone Eliminators and it is MUCH EASIER to use. I'd like to see your review of the BIO BOMBS. It might be the solution you are looking for!
@joevanseeters2873 16 сағат бұрын
Nice review my friend. I trust your reviews and it helps me to decide what products that I should spend my money on rather than all the HYPE out there. The detailing market is a difficult market to traverse these days with literally THOUSANDS of new products. Rinseless washes are the new "buzz word" in detailing these days. It's the new "must have" product for companies to add to their inventories. If you don't have a rinseless in your line-up, you'll be left behind so new ones are being released almost on a daily basis. It's mind altering. I just want one good rinseless wash that cleans better than any other rinseless, is super easy to use, has superior slickness under the wash media of choice, and is super easy to dry off the panel leaving nothing behind. That would be my dream rinseless wash. I just ordered Labocosmetica Idosave and DIY Details Rinseless V2 to try out against what I have in my cabinet now. I love rinseless washing. I live in Colorado, USA so it's very cold here in the winter so I need a great rinseless wash solution for my winter washing needs inside my garage. No way I can wash outside during winter. The hose bibs are frozen and to be honest, I WOULD BE FROZEN if I washed outside in the winter. I'm sure you know what I mean up there in Canada. Thank you for keeping it real my friend, it is much appreciated. Oh, and I love that garage of yours. I wish I had one that nice. I am working on it. Its a constant "work in progress" if you know what I mean. My goal is to get a COMET pressure washer (due to it's ease of installation, fair price, and italian made design) soon after I get water plumbed out to my garage. Once I get that, things will start to fall into place for my dream interior detailing studio. I take inspiration from your own garage. 32:1 in order for it to feel correct? That's crazy. I am so glad I watched your test because I was actually thinking about buying this one. I'll be skipping this one. No doubt it works well for some people, but I want a rinseless without protection most of the time. I do use a couple with protection occasionally like CarPro ECH20 which is decent for what it does. Looking forward to your next test/review! You are the "ALBERT EINSTEIN OF DETAILING" 😁
@DetailProjects 14 сағат бұрын
Many thanks my friend! Happy to see my videos proving value for the community!
@Ericscott-d4x 16 сағат бұрын
ONR please my good man 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@sergio-travel 16 сағат бұрын
Hats off to you sir! Very thorough testing, thank you for doing this!
@JohnBackman-y9t 17 сағат бұрын
DIY's biggest plus for me is that you can comment on their videos with a question about product questions and expect a reply same day/next day.
@LegendFlower 17 сағат бұрын
Could you try out Detail Co. Nemesis next?
@NickM1013 17 сағат бұрын
The real forensic channel.
@klasseact6663 8 сағат бұрын
What do you mean?
@DetailProjects 17 сағат бұрын
If you wish to ethically support the channel at no cost to you feel free to use code DP18 for a 5% discount when shopping at CARZILLA.ca 🇨🇦🇺🇸 Many thanks! carzilla.ca/discount/DP18?ref=DetailProjects
@Farang_Lifestyles 2 күн бұрын
Excellent review and correct,,, if the same results why not purchase Bear Force Foam Cannon.... great value.... and honestly better design with updated bottle and hose...
@vicjensik5985 2 күн бұрын
Great video! Shouldn't you have used a slightly damp towel for drying? Dry microfiber can mare surfaces, and a damp towel usually dried better.
@MatthewSmith-cp3hu 2 күн бұрын
the original version also uses alcohol
@MatthewSmith-cp3hu 2 күн бұрын
i am surprised the 11 ph is not irritating to the skin
@kristofferpence 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for this…. Nemesis next!
@DetailProjects 3 күн бұрын
Thanks, it’s on the list!
@clintonmccool2330 3 күн бұрын
Be aware that Dawn WILL deteriorate coatings. It is a degreaser. Dawn is NOT pH neutral. It has a pH of about 9.0 which is slightly alkaline. Although not incredibly destructive, over time it will remove/fade coatings.
@bishoprain9287 3 күн бұрын
Awesome Job, very detailed explanation. Are you considering to test out Detail Co. NEMESIS Rinseless Wash from House of Rags next? (Eddie Colon @Ecdetails)...
@DetailProjects 3 күн бұрын
Yes it’s on my list!
@bishoprain9287 3 күн бұрын
@DetailProjects Awesome! Can't wait! Hope you make a Top 3 rinseless favorites video too!
@DetailProjects 2 күн бұрын
You bet!
@heldermendes7906 3 күн бұрын
Hello there, I used this on my car, I confirm the water repellency, and the durability, I applied in May 2024, still looking good. However I did get juddering, specially the first 3, 4 months, and it still does it sometimes. I polished the glass, I clayed it, cleaned it very well until it was super smooth. The wipers were half a year old (Bosch). Do you have any insight that might help me getting rid or avoid this problem? Thank you for your time, Best Re gards, Helder
@trifin5772 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for this. Incredible channel.
@krisk1547 4 күн бұрын
April to Nov I use dish soap as windshield washer fluid. Works better than that colored water i used to pay for. Table spoon of soap per gallon of water. Make sure you don't have hard water
@dannydaugherty5702 4 күн бұрын
That looks like it works pretty good! I added some to my cart and I’m excited to try it out!
@tonyroma9305 4 күн бұрын
Try scrubbing bubbles on all plastics and rubber on the car. You'll never use dawn again.
@victoryensured7137 5 күн бұрын
Jesus Christ, my favortie rinsless getting DESTROYED. I'm really disappointed. Trully. A great test, smiliar to what John from Forensic Detailing is conducting. Although about the marring, even if you use 100 towels and the cleaning solution is always clean, in my and my fellow pro detailer friends opinion EVERYTHING marrs the paint. If it's not visible with the naked eye - do you really care about it so much? Yes sure it can accumulate over time and get's shown, but if the scratches are so minute they are shown only on the microscope, accumulating them over time to be shown will take A LOT of time, but that's only my opinion on it (and maybe a few of my friends in the buisness) ,It's just a case of minimizing it, and also i didn't had a smiliar experience with leaving such obvious marring as you had with DIY rinsless on my or any of my familys or firends cars (i maintain them all, often with DIY Rinsless so i have plenty of experience with this product) nevertheless i think I'm going to switch to a different product. It's just that the choice between rinsless washes is a lot smaller here in the EU. No Koch RRW, no ADS Hero, no Ethos, no Feynlab. Considering ONR (have Absolute but not impressed with the cleaning ability of it). Severly sad, espiecially it's not the first test that gave DIY really low marks.
@BlairWarnock 5 күн бұрын
Hi Great review. I’ve watched lots of DIY vids of them using their rinse less wash and their dilution is 256:1 for all uses, like hand wash, clay lube, interiors, glass cleaner, etc. I’ve only used Absolute myself. My experience with P&S has always been great so when I wanted to try rinseless I went with them. I find Absolute to be a terrific product. I use it on interiors and windows and I find myself grabbing my spray bottle of it at 256:1 and use it in the house to clean glass, mirrors and light fixtures. Since I bought a gallon bc like you, said it’s most cost effective that way, it’ll probably be another year before I get to try another brand!😂
@golfmc78 6 күн бұрын
I really enjoy your rinseless videos. It would be great to see you try Ethos hybrid rinseless. If you haven't already. I just purchased it. And really enjoyed it. Keep up the great work.
@AnthonySarino-f7n 6 күн бұрын
Very informative video. I'm a Chemical Engineer and I agree with all your testing methodology. It brought me back to my Honours days when I was doing my thesis on RAFT Polymerization.
@DetailProjects 6 күн бұрын
My travels in the chemical world I have come across an "Anthony Sarino" twice - once at the Conway Lab, Princeton University and once in a working group within Procter and Gamble - if so, Hello
@charles8557 5 күн бұрын
@@DetailProjects That is an incredible memory. Are you a P&Ger? I assumed from the channel you were a full time detailer.
@saulmunoz3731 6 күн бұрын
CarPro ECH2O would be nice to have reviewed
@DetailProjects 6 күн бұрын
On the list!
@saulmunoz3731 6 күн бұрын
@@DetailProjects Nice! By the way, I really like that you are showing us SDS and keeping us aware of safety issues regarding any chemical. Maybe you can take a look and review Nanolex GreenX Car care lineup with this aspect?
@Elniniss 6 күн бұрын
You should do this exact same test with regular car soap.
@DetailProjects 6 күн бұрын
Yes, It’s on my content list
@eddie3692 6 күн бұрын
Please test CLEAN rinse-less and Detail Co. rinseless! :)
@DetailProjects 6 күн бұрын
On my list!
@tjcool5541 6 күн бұрын
I just bought this guy, I see in a comment you say you use 3/8 line, are you just using an adapter from the compressor and the hose? How would that affect the flow
@DetailProjects 6 күн бұрын
It’s great, just need a quick connection that’s all
@Bruces-Garage 6 күн бұрын
I really think if you’re interpreting an SDS and making conclusions based on ingredients you should either explain your expertise/experience or have a prefoessiinal (i.e. chemist) interpret.
@DetailProjects 6 күн бұрын
You don’t need to be an expert to read an SDS. Anyone can do proper research and the facts are right in front of you. It’s called google. Every person should do proper research to see what they are working with but the problem is nobody talks about it. Everyone is focused on how slick and how good a product smells! But if it makes you feel better, I do happen to know a thing or two about detailing, my empirical tests can attest for that!
@AnthonySarino-f7n 6 күн бұрын
I am a Chemical Engineer. His interpretation of an SDS is correct.
@Bruces-Garage 6 күн бұрын
@@AnthonySarino-f7nAwesome.
@DriveTwistys 7 күн бұрын
Great review. Did you notice if Hero changed the hyrdophobics or other properties of your ceramic coating?
@DetailProjects 6 күн бұрын
Thanks, from my experience hero didn’t alter the surface.
@SlowGT3 3 күн бұрын
Did you notice if ONR altered your ceramic coating properties?
@diydetailofficial 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for testing DIY Detail Rinse Less Wash
@AnthonySarino-f7n 6 күн бұрын
😂 You guys got exposed HARD
@markbrown9165-k1u 7 күн бұрын
Can I ask what was the clay towel you used
@DetailProjects 7 күн бұрын
It’s the DIY Detail clay towel
@theunkownmr.562 7 күн бұрын
Does the test panel you used have the same hardness as clearcoat on a car?
@DetailProjects 7 күн бұрын
The purpose of using plexiglass as a chemical test media or medium is to test and/or determine chemical etching (burning) or scratching called frost lining. Unlike clearcoat on a hood, plexiglass with show a surface frost line we commonly call a chemical scratch but really is mild to moderate to advanced chemical etching. Unlike clearcoat on a hood plexiglass will etch or scratch easily to identify with the "naked eye " chemicals like ammonia, buffers, acetone, surfactant identied by classification as ionic surfactants have a tendecy to frost line etch, solvents, etc. in the product formation. The list goes on and on what plexiglass and polycarbonate can tell us, think beyond the media contacting the surface but the product's chemicals in the formulation contacting the surface and its reaction when heat is built up when adding pressure, resistance and contact washing with the RW product and the chosen media. Plexiglass is used in chemistry labs to easily identify this cause and effect relationship then verified by microscope analysis. That's why I guard against media scratching by wiping in 2 directions. It may not be a full proof test but I chose test parameters and mediums any detail enthusiast can do for themselves versus buying a thousand dollar gamma or hamma handheld 500x microscopes to see the same scratch etching on the clearcoat of a hood. ... Hardness has nothing to do with chemical burns at the surface nor frost lining because of a chosen chemical product being used. "Frost lining" is "chemical cystalization" that causes a scratch on the surface as it (crystallization) is moved along "a or the surface of the medium" from downward pressure!
@DetailProjects 7 күн бұрын
Now, I explained my purpose of using the plexi-test panels (chemical crystallization marring), I will now address your direct question. If I'm following you, in your reasoning you believe clearcoat hardness or "clearcoat layer thickness" is somehow more scratch resistant than my plexi-test panels - maybe if the plexi-panel is not calibrated to same ratio scratch resistance level. Clearcoat is measured by mil on top of paint and primer. In the last 10-13 years car manufacturers have reduced clearcoat thickness application by 1.55 mils across all manufactured vehicles to save money on per vehicle unit cost, more profits. Some brands like the German vehicles (BMW) have harder perceived clearcoat, meaning, "thicker" layers in mils of clearcoat application. The average brand-new car (not truck) coming off the assembly line in modern times the clearcoat averages under 4.5 mils. Over time clearcoat degrades lowering its thickness clearcoat layer and the reason why you put LSP on clearcoat to prevent UV and physical degradation or at least slow it down over time. You can buy plexi and polycarbonate test panels that are "scratch resistant" which will resist physical and chemical scratches greater than any vehicle clearcoat thickness, granite, aluminum, steel, marble, etc. You can also buy plexi test calibrated panels that have the same 4.5 mil layer to align with the average car vehicle clearcoat thickness but, and admittedly, may not be the same hardiness level but they are called calibrated clearcoat panels for similar scratch resistance and fall in a 95% confidence interval. If you take a pencil and scratch your clearcoat and the calibrated pexi-panel (as I do) and they both pencil scratch, then you have similar "testing correlation mediums." At this point if it scratches that plexi medium in my testing it will scratch my clearcoat. My plexi-panels are aligned to 4-4.5 mil clearcoat and have some test panels as high as 5.234 mils. Clearcoat is "very soft" and why feather micro marring (love marks) occurs when your drying MF runs across the clearcoat to dry the vehicle, and he reason why the detail industry marketed and developed drying aids. Lots of drying towel hitting the paint panels when Rinseless washing drying - what do you think it's doing to your clearcoat. Please don't think plexi or polycarbonate test panels are not as scratch resistant as vehicle clearcoat or even cannot be replicated to be the same level of scratch resistance in an empirical lab test.
@ShafikHabal-zt3sw 7 күн бұрын
Awesome review! Could you do an onr review like this?
@DetailProjects 7 күн бұрын
Of course!
@asdf8670 6 күн бұрын
considering doing their new hyper foam product as it is has added surfactants to the ONR formula.
@DetailProjects 6 күн бұрын
Yes this one got my attention, it’s on my long list of RW
@asdf8670 6 күн бұрын
@@DetailProjects as this list keeps growing i was wondering what your thoughts are for the need for extensive testing at stronger concentrations. I suspect us typical end users won't go much stronger than 128:1 , and most will stick to standard dilution. thanks for engaging with us on this topic!
@DetailProjects 6 күн бұрын
The better question to ask is why test RW dilution ratio to begin with? Because the dilution ratios are taken for granted in rinseless washing as some may think it's a gold standard and not buck industry norms, thus the industrial set norm at 256:1 and this detail narrative is being sold for RW washing; simply not true. Truth be told, the chosen surfactant by classification either Anionic, Cationic, Nonionic or Amphoteric will not have the same dilution ratio of cleaning ability, chemical application, user experience, chemical marring ability nor hazard ability. Especially, if some RW formulations includes PDMS as a lubricate component. Wouldn't it be nice to know the actual dilution ratio that works or does not work for a given RW chemical product based in its chemical formulation? In my testing, I'm not seeing 256:1 to work for some currently marketed RW products.
@Gabriel-zj2wk 7 күн бұрын
Very good job, you opened my eyes