But now a changed man since his near death experience.

2:10 you mean this?

@@WanderingNerd21 yep

1:43

Different hair, and more older...

How did he change after sepheroth defeat

Perhaps his near death experience has been a wake up call.

Makes him more reasonable than his father

Lmao I kept replaying this part

Imagine in Ever Crisis we see prompts for cloud like a yes and no question in every word rufus says.

This was awesome before Jack came

Idk why I felt the urge to keep replaying this part. Now I know

That was hilarious

And Reno's face as they exasperated

They quit and went into hiding a long time ago. I think the last time they helped the active Turks was to help evacuate Midgar during Meteor.

@@DarkMirria1 That I know of. It would be nice to hear about their life’s after the events of BCFFVII.

@@benjaminpruess2529 I suppose. I think Veld Verdot gets mentioned in On the Way to a Smile. I’ll have to reread it to make sure though.

@@DarkMirria1 he does. What page I’m not sure. But he does.

Quinton Flynn?

@@shadestrider1033 That's the fella

And Axel from Kingdom hearts

I WAS WONDERING WHY SOUNDS FAMILIAR HOLYYYY

No, that was his dad and Scarlet’s doing. I believe, if I remember correctly, Rufus was on house arrest in Junon after being caught secretly funding the old Avalanche to kill his dad.

@@ZeldaLover6 Sins of the father shall visited upon the son.

@@uchihashuji3449 Tis bullshit.

@@uchihashuji3449 No.

@@DarkMirria1 Yes

It's actually not a trap. At this point they've been working on a treatment for Geostigma that they were planning on distributing for free. They are planning on rebuilding, but it's a different Shinra than before, hitting rock bottom and working their way back up. The monument that gets destroyed later was actually built by Reno and Rude with help from the people. Of course, I'm not saying it's stupid of Cloud to walk away. Anyone sensible should have doubts about them, but there is a reason why Reno and Rude are out their saving kids during the big fight in this one.

@@emeryltekutsu4357 Rufus was manipulating him using the kids to emotionally get Cloud to do something he wanted, ie be muscle to handle Kadaj. Sure, he may want to rebuild ShinRa and make up for what his company has done wrong - that does not make him not manipulative. Cloud was being manipulated and it nearly worked if not for Reno.

@@kellevichy But Cloud is the muscle that handles Kadaj. At this point, they've already tried fighting Kadaj. The Turks were the first ones to come in contact with him, besides Kyrie, who just thought she was her old friend, and they already knew it was Jenova. Tseng realized it pretty much right away. The Turks had already tried to fight Kadaj unsuccessfully. What were they supposed to do at that point? Let Jenova run rampant, or try to bring in the big guns? They're not necessarily saints, but they are trying to save the world at this point, knowing full well how Cloud and crew view them.

@@kellevichy Yes. It's all Rufus knows.

He has geo stigma

Sheet. Geostigma and hiding the fact that he had Jenova’s head in his lap the whole time.

😂

Just Denzel and Marlene, you should read/listen to on the way to a smile

@@Wafflyy I read the novel. But Cloud left Tifa's bar, 20 days before Advent children starts. So it's not incoherent if he lives with others infected orphans in the church. (I am not sure. It's a theory people had since 2005)

@@SuperHaoken He works a delivery service so of course he’s not gonna be home often, he’s out making deliveries that aren’t just in Edge.

Remember this is meant to take place 2 years since the fight between cloud and rufus in shinra HQ

He did somehow survive his office exploding two years prior, most likely not completely unscathed, and was infected with geostigma.

@@ZeldaLover6 Rufus had broken rips, fell through a chute while escaping certain death and smackef onto a wall. He found himself in a small "Safe Room" and where he found expiref potions and medicine. He ignored the former, taking several of the latters, before trying to get out. When he finally got out (after what I assume were several highs of the meds, as he laughed a few times uncontrollably), he collapsed right into Reno's arns and was taken to safety. .. Only to be kidnapped twice shortly afterwards (basically his original kidnappers died and their doctor, a former scientist under Hojo, took him hostage). Forced into a cave alongside Geostigma infected for several months, Rufus almost drowned and was infected with Geostigma mere moments before he was saved. Kilmister (scientist/ doctor who had kidnapped him) worked for him in Healen on a cure and found out many things (e.g. the connection to Jenova). Fearing that Kilmister would turn into another Hojo or Hollander, he gave another survivor of the cave (Judd) a gun, with which Kilmister was killed. As for why Rufus gave Judd the gun? Kilmister shot Judd's gf right in front of him, almost hitting Rufus who wanted to help her. Basically, Rufus allowed Judd to take revenge for his dead gf almost two years later. (Source: On The Way To A Smile - ShinRa's Story) Also, Rufus was called 'Doofus Rufus' a short time before the movie and probably even afterwards. He also has a younger half-brother which he met during the two years between OG 7 and ACC.

But in FF7 you break the Time and Space line and destroy the old World.

Right?? It’s crazy.

It was 2005. The syncing technology at Square Enix`s NA division wasn`t up to snuff at the time like it is now and they rushed The Film to celebrate the Original FFVII`s 20th Anniversary. The CGI is still far more realistic than many CG Films nowadays.

@@AspieMediaBobby it's less realistic than Square's CGI nowadays but I still get what you're saying

@@Killer_Kris7 There were also creative disputes between the cast and crew in Japan. For instance, Director Tetsuya Nomura said that Loz was his least favorite Remnant despite his son Kenji voicing him in the original Japanese release!

"Let bygones be bygones" I suppose

Hey hey, leave the Turks out of this. They just follow orders. They don’t even like the orders they get.

Rufus didn’t really do much to Cloud and it was Cloud that challenged Rufus to a fight in FF7. And the Turks were just following orders, they don’t have to like their orders but they have no choice but to obey.

Well i think this that shinra was destroyd why punisment enough and let them live with the fact they failed