Absolutely i wouldn't use these in the gulf either 40/50lb fluro & longer length back their ill usually go 75' maybe even a 100' depending but i dont fish the gulf much unless offshore is nasty & im forced too basically. This is what we'll use off the ocean side/east coast off the keys. Mainly drifting wrecks,reefs & ledges with my family. The kids just arent there yet so i rig heavy otherwise im tying on rigs all day its tough but its a family trip type thing so is what it is until they sharpen those skills. We're getting them there though. Hope yall are having a good season gona be murked up for awhile after that storm🤦‍♂️ Stay safe out there bud & thanks for stopping by & sharing some info we appreciate that👊🙏

@@TeamHardLife yall are leaps & bounds beyond anything i do my guy💪💪🙌 i know to stfu & listen when legends speak too. These are strictly our wahoo trolling setups for South Florida/Fl keys fishing. Never had an issue with it slipping but i will definitely check out your recommendations as i said im not ignorant & definitely know who you boys n gals are👊🙌🙌 honored to have you comment on my page my guy🙏 Yall stay safe out there👊🙏

You absolutely can i would recommend a cigar style trolling weight with a 50' mono leader between the sinker & bonita. This means you'll need to hand line the keader but it will get it down for ya. Another option would be planer setup. Go get em boss👊🙌🙌

@Betterthanbought. Thanks very much I didn't realise you use a planer with these as an option, I have a 4 and going to purchase a 6 as we speak. Thanks again.

You should probably just stay indoors my guy if your that soft. Grown man goin around whining on youtube😅😅 smh.

@@Betterthanbought. Only idiots handle bare lead a lot.

That was an old boat trailer guide post i had laying around. But any metal/fabrication place heck maybe Lowes or HD. You just want thick wall aluminum pipe with no dents or bends. Cut then deburr the ends really well slightly chamfer them actually or the leads wont drop out easily. And be careful. Thanks for stopping by. Go make you some up👊🙌🙌

Yaa couple ppl wondered that. These are our high speed setups specifically for trolling for wahoo. I packed it on there but new it wasn't as tight as it could be. Once we got to the keys i let out about 3/4 of it hooked to a num4 planer doing 8 knotts & cranked it all back in only used a half gal of sweat😅 & then i had plenty of room for my 50' wind on. Was a gamble i knew it was stuffed but i wanted every inch i could get & it worked out. Good eye man you have a clue unlike alot of the commenters that just dont understand or even care to ask what the setups used for. lol. A guy using a shock cord & cigar weight wouldn't use a topshot or wind-on or even wind on the shock cord so he could stuff it real good. But ppl dont ask or understand most times. Tight lines to ya my friend & be safe out there🙏🙏 appreciate you stopping by the channel👊

Absolutely & with your wallet i would. We're not all rich & unfortunately for me i have to wait for the sales. This was a killer deal so on it went. Its quality line regardless. Does matter to me i buy alot of usa products but i cant always do it man🤷‍♂️. Sorry to disappoint ya👊

Ya i agree most full roller setups dont work well with braid especially with the xtra wide reels. That said these rods have a different wheel setup than most so the line cant get stuck beside the wheels like most setups do. Its made/designed specifically for braided line & i have never had a single issue with any of them. We actually have a few of these setups & fish them hard. I have had them for several yrs now & couldn't be happier with them. There specifically setup for high speed trolling for wahoo mainly with plainers & not used for anything else. Mono is too thick for this application it causes too much drag aka line scope stopping baits/lures from diving deep at h8gher speeds. The thin braid is a must have. But to each their own my friend. I appreciate you checking out the channel. Tight lines & stay safe out there👊🙏

I follow him already but haven't seen that knot. I will most definitely check it out. Appreciate the suggestion👊🙏.

Its in the reel box. We live in maine & we fly all this equipment to the keys in the belly of a jet each fall. Once down south everything gets setup properly. Thanks for stopping by👊 tight lines

Hell yea bro thanks same to you.

There for pelagic trolling lures used for Wahoo Mahi Marlin, Sailfish ect. Personally i just use them for Wahoo but we always pick up mahi also. They help prevent short strikes/misses when high speed trolling. Good for squid skirted & mylar skirted lures. Cant run double hooks with anything flashabou skirted they'll tangled up bad you'll want a single hook far back for flashabou. Hope that helps. Apologies for the pathetically slow reply.

10-15 ml is what it is said to be correct for a refill on the pto side. Ive done 10ml without any problems. Just dont overdue it or force it in otherwise you risk blowing out the seal. Good luck.

No concerns unless you put too much in there. Dont force it go slow & slowly rotate as you said. Keep the isoflex inside/warm it will make things much easier. If your concerned put in half what they recommend go on a good ride then add 2nd half👍 Ppl that just force it in quickly or use too much can definitely push it past the seal & cause major issues. Follow the guidelines you'll be good to go. Now if your super fussy & have no problem yanking the clutch then sure drive a acrew into the seal pull it wipe out all old grease then do it from that end & replace the seal. But again dont overdue it or when you go to seat the new seal hydraulic pressure will blow the inner seal out as your saying. Sounds like you have a good idea about it all so i would suggest doing whichever way you feel most comfortable with👊 Thanks for stopping by the channel & happy trails my friend.

@@thegreatgreennorth9983 thank you, I appreciate the input!

@@thegreatgreennorth9983what about injecting half of grease slowly into the nipple side with the seal off (while turning motor slowly), and then the other half putting into the face of the outer bearing (once the old grease is all wiped away). At same time, it replaces the old seal that can potentially leak air and blow the motor. Also, I wonder why they didn’t add a nipple to the MAG side? Is it because there’s only one bearing on mag side?

Yes

You can use what you'd like but this is how i spool all our reels always have always will i dint like a rushed job. Its tight the line dont dig in we high speed troll planers with these setups you couldn't possibly put anymore tension on them😅 if they where going to dig they would have & there wouldn't be a 65lb wahoo on my wall my friend. You do you, machine away my guy👍👍 ill keep stackin it on proper slow n steady👌

No isoflex doesn't reach the inner bearings ever those 2 are oil bathed. Please watch the video you will see how there all seperate. Pto and mag sides get isoflex only. The inners get bathed in 2 stroke oil constantly. Hence why those rarely fail. Using more isoflex than is recommended can damage the inner seal for outer bearings by creating hydraulic pressure just dont overdue it theres clear amounts specified for each yr/model simply follow that & your good to go👍 also make sure your buying real isoflex from a (dealer only) Hope that helps clear things up👊

@@thegreatgreennorth9983 Great explanation about the outer bearings. The 2 center bearings aren't in an oil bath, they are lubed from the oil injection. Only the water pump/oil pump gear/bearings are in an oil bath. Check out a shop manual and you'll see that they spec to add 50ml of oil to that cavity when assembling the engine. Also if you look closer at the crank in the video, you can see where the red center seals are located. They're on the wrong side of the bearing if they're meant to keep the bearing in an oil bath.

@@jayfavel4447 ya im well aware i could have/should have explained that better or worded that differently for sure. Good clarification👍

Absolutely do go ck out my Instagram been in the keys for past 2 weeks been cleaning up. We only fish 2 wks a yr down south & those baits are brand new im not sure where you got used from. My Instagram is Thewoodworker1. 16 tuna 2 wahoo 9 mahi 3 cudas bonitas bunch of reef n trash fish. 1 week offshore. We do a family trip with our kids so don't exspect alot. The kids can only take so much before its not fun anymore & its their vacation too. More about memmories than anything. But go have a look just let me know your ig handle & ill approve you👊

Make sure you get real isoflex from a dealer. There's tons of imitation crap labeled as iso but its not the same & will cause issues. Have a helper turn the engine over by hand (plug wires removed) as you do the mag side it will help get it spread through more evenly. Just 1 slow rotation as you squeeze in the isoflex. Thank you for stopping by the channel & happy riding this yr man👊 hopefully we get some major snow🙏🙏

Thanks for the clear explanation. I'm also servicing an 800r I just don't see the access nipple on these blocks. Only have 4 ports on carb side of motor. 2 oil and 2 air pulse lines. Great trick with the ziptie and rotating motor to check for access to bearing.

Some of us take pride in everything we do sorry if thats odd to you. You can use a cement block for all i care my friend🤷‍♂️ That should be easier on your head to figure out👍

Straight, undented ,clean ,thick wall aluminum pipe. Like you say the lead exspands when hot then contracts just enough to fall right out. Oil the inside up and quench it in water quickly like i show on the vid. That quenching makes your lead a lil harder also. If you have any questions just hollar. Make you some up👊🙌🙌

@Betterthanbought. talk me some about the weight you use to fish in very deep water and what kind of fish do you fish at most deep waters...have video's ot it ?

Weight will vary depending on the current, water depth your fishing & even your line thickness. Say your fishing in 500-600 feet with 2 knotts current 5lbs should be about right. Now get out into the Gulfstream in 3-4 knotts of current and say your dropping 1500-2000' for swordfish your going to need 10-12 maybe even 15 lbs to hold bottom in that situation without it scoping out & being 1/4 mile away from the boat. You don't need to be exzactly vertical with your line but kerp it close to it without too much excess weight. Takes lil figuring out/testing at 1st. Use a good braided line for this type of fishing its very thin & cuts the water much better. Wont scope out nearly as much as mono does meaning you can use less weight. When you drop let it hit bottom then bring it up like 20' & drop it again then lift into the zone you prefer/want to fish from there species will dictate where you run your bait height wise. Now just repeat that every 10-15 mins as you drift to make sure your still in your zone/depth range as bottom contour will be constantly changing most times. Hopefully that's the info your after my friend👊 its a basic idea but should get ya going.

@r.bouth.6457. I dont have any vids but ck out capt nick stanzyk his KZbin is stanzfam he is a pro swordfisherman gives great info lots of vids for ya to see how it all works.