I think ultimately what the research is pointing at is at a certain point stop looking and work with what we got. It's kind of like that episode of Rick and Morty where they get back and Rick is like all right let me just turn this screw and then the third turn everything blows up so just be satisfied with the information in the understanding of Consciousness that we have quit looking for something that's already in our face and let's make this shit fucking work rock on and party on

The interuptions destroy the flow of the presentation.

For anyone interested in this kind of thing, also check out the work of Rupert Sheldrake and quantum biologists. It appears that light and water play a central role in the bioenergetic field. There are water-filled microtubules in the brain that might be where non-computational cognition occurs. It also might be where long-term memory is stored, as no neuronal brain structure has ever been linked to it. Involved in this light-energy system is water structure, deuterium, fascia, mitochondria, melanin, and much else.

18:00: 'A foreigner visiting Oxford or Cambridge for the first time is shown a number of colleges, libraries, playing fields, museums, scientific departments and administrative offices. He then asks “But where is the University? I have seen where the members of the Colleges live, where the Registrar works, where the scientists experiment and the rest. But I have not yet seen the University in which reside and work the members of your University.” It has then to be explained to him that the University is not another collateral institution, some ulterior counterpart to the colleges, laboratories and offices which he has seen. The University is just the way in which all that he has already seen is organized. When they are seen and when their coordination is understood, the University has been seen.' Ryle, G. 1949, The Concept of Mind, London, Penguin Books., pp. 17-18

Fascinating presentation, thank you for sharing it!

Neuroscience needs a revolution even bolder than Chalmers' hair.

I can see 👀 6 male and 2 female virtual consciousness !😮

More fundamental than an EM field is the scalar and vector potential that EM fields can be written in terms of. One can have no EM field but a scalar and vector potential, perhaps it is the vector and scalar potentials that are more related to consciousness.

If there is no observer to observe the universe, then in what sense does it exist?

Doesn't the fact that EM waves from the brain (and therefore somehow part of the brain) are detectable by external meters imply that our brainwaves couple with the external world? Thus our brains are coupled with the external material world. If so changing our brain waves would change the outside world. It's really just a matter of magnitude of the signal. If you could amplify and filter the signal like what is done in electronics then I don’t see why our brain waves can’t send more complex signals.

How does the ultrasound not deliver energy on all the tissue in between?

Amazing research, thankyou.

I have developed a widened vegan consciousness. I am connected with the field of consciousness in the universe. I am unique. I can feel the truth. Science is not important to me.

Lol, just because things resonate doesn't mean they feel. How the hell they build a single feeling observer that can feel things simultaneously? there is no observer, there is no "you". There is only "the neurons in front of my neurons".

hilton hotema

Soundds like more philosophy BS. Everytime you hear meta-analysis...you know its BS.

How os this any different from Stephen Lehars works?

check Holton Hotema...and search for breathing....long slow inhalation...nefore sleep...be forewarn...you will see...weird hylidoscopic vision...

And you are always responsible whether you hold the onus or not .. culpability implies intentional choice

The mistake IS associating free will with fate… not the same… and the implication that will= outcome.. choice and culpability begin with awareness

The views sadden me

Receiving of information from the brains EM feild 28:32 to 40. I'm so happy to see some of these scientists looking for nonphysical phenomena now. Finally! For decades science has been held prisoner by these hard core materialists. It's like Tesla said, "the day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence".

I find this subject and conversation very interesting. I would like to add something that might be helpful in your research. For some time now I have been investigating the concept of a non-relative environment. Much has been shared about relativity, but to date nothing has been said about non-relativity. In my article, "Soulrelativity", I explore the idea of a non-relative environment. In short, the progressing present moment in which we live forms the relative environment. The non-progressing past and future combined, form the non-relative environment. The progressing present moment is the environment of progression. In contrast, the non-progressing past and future form the environment of non-progression. You can think of it this way, the present moment is an object in motion. In contrast to it is an object not in motion (the non-progressing past and future together). We exist physically within the progressing present moment or "the environment of progression". Immediately before and after the progressing present moment is the environment of non-progression. Time, distance, and dimensions exist "within" the present moment "as" the present moment progresses. Time, distance, and dimensions do not exist within the environment of the non-progressing past and future. The environment of non-progression or "the non-relative environment" has no physical form or dimensions. The environment of Mind has no physical form or dimensions.

To say a single neuron can be accurately described, or even how it works can be explained, ignores the simple fact that it does what it does because of billions of nano-machines interacting through massively parallel processes from an atomic scale upwards. Even the closed and open "reading frames" of the DNA, modified by epigenetics and vitamins, like D and K and B12 and folate play a role. Add cortisol and sex hormones, and you add another layer to the complexity. Recent research now shows that glial cells are also electrically active and play some role on the action of the neurons they serve. Moving charges do generate electric fields, which can stimulate nearby neuronal bundles and even regional clusters throughout the brain. There is no way to say, consciousness arises from CSF, magnetic fields, synaptic webs, feedback loops, quantum fluctuations, etc. Scientific thinking is very reductionist. Reality is not. The first verses of the Tao te Ching say, "The way that can be spoken of is not the Eternal way." This means, parsing reality into concepts which can be thought about with words ignores that the true natures of essences are irreducible.

Consciousness arises, imho, from electromagnetic fields generated by microcurrent energy flow, channeled through neurons which are ready to fire via synaptic connection strength. Some neurons triggered will suppress neuronal firing in others. These fields interact with matter both microscopically and across regions of the brain, and, in groups, are synchronized and coordinated rhythmically, seen grossly as brain waves. A gross example in nature is when a lightning discharge somehow trigger other lightning discharges in clouds several miles apart. Throw in glial cells, which we now know modulate neurons and process electrical signals between groups of neurons, and it gets even more complicated. Neuron activation is also affected by fatigue, nutrition as glycogen stores and micronutrients (B12 and other vitamins) , Mg, K) then throw in hormones like thyroid, adrenaline, sex hormones, etc. Add the reading frames open in the DNA in each neuron via differentiation and epigenetics... Then add the impossibly complex organization of neural tracts between regions, and the massively parallel information processing done by gray matter and columns and synapse strength through learning... The hard problem of Consciousness arises because the brain is organized from small molecules all the way up. And stupid people take guns and destroy the brains and bodies of others based on emotion. I will make an exception if someone destroys Putin's brain.

I've thought about this for 50 years. Not entropy of time just of decay .. In the model of fields and decay. It does translate across almost all fields of study and disciplins but I run into controlled chaos..stasis or some temporary equilibrium. Mutations work fine. The Down side to this line of thought is how subjective evolution is. Extremely annoying . The same with Einsteins standardized train time its so human centric. Essentially you become a young earth reformed American Christian basically. You can take the twist into the nazi occultic version where we are all linked together and all that with deep time evolutionary mythology and this what I come up with more or less. You immediately see how ppl search for Atlantis instead of platos real warning .. Or search for aliens and try to talk through crystals and vibrations. 😆 Only when you add modern views adopted in the last 50 to 150 years. Huge problems with Space time right now and Galaxy morphology . James Webb sees early green peas galaxy close to milky way and mixed throughout. Then observes mature red giants 14 billion years ago in early universe. You can have both mixed like this. . You can't bend the universe to any manifold shape to make up for this. My conclusions are if Entropy of time or space/time and evolution are ultimately removed this 2nd law of thermodynamics can be used to interpret many fields. With it this approach ends in nihilism or another cult belief system .

I don't believe it is as simple as electromagnetism but likely some similar effect on quantum background that involves electromagnetism!!

Microbiome is our consciousness.. cognitive decline / mental disease means lack of microbiome diversity..

Don't know if this is mentioned (I am commenting at the start of the video) the US military did a study on what the effects of the length of hair have on intuition. It was noticed by officers that before a surprise attack the soldiers that had religious exemptions for long hair would wake up moments before the attack. So the CIA conducted military tests back in the US and the conclusion was that your hair length does indeed have an effect on intuition AND also compassion. The longer the hair the more intuitive and compassionate a person was. So cool and interesting that a seemingly small thing as hair length has a profound effect on us, then what do other more apparent stimulus or physical states have on us

I have a field hypothesis too. I think there is a Psychis Field which makes every particle an observer. Like mass, this Field puddles when particles aggregate. Sometime in the history of Life on earth, a mistake in the genome unlocked the secret that ignited the spark of observing into being conscious of sensory stimuli. Being the great developer that it is, evolution made this more and more complex and at some point a cidentally stumbled upon a way.to turn this on and off. Ever since there brains have exploded into the incredibly able things that we have today

This is great, thank you for sharing. Today while making lunch I pondered if consciousness could instead be a field that can be experienced or utilized via neural activity, similar to how gravity is a field with increasing force depending upon mass (aggregation). The intent of my pondering was to find a path away from panpsychism without wandering into a more rigid understanding that consciousness is merely a product of biological organization and activity. I then figured this must be something people are talking about. I searched, and ended up here. Thank you.

How does this all relate to the Higgs and Planck fields? Or how do these fields relate to consciousness?

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this will attract all the yoyo's.

Precious little !

Can anyone tell me why, whilst I can just about grasp what the dudes trying to achieve here and its potential future implications, but after fifteen minutes, right about the time the guy start displaying formula's, I check out completely. If you want to start assigning symbols and numbers to biological functions sure, you either know exactly what these things represent and therefore have your answer already or you don't. I don't, for the record. I also have a sneaking suspicion that it could just well be the wrong way to look at it. Consciousness is under no obligation to make any quantifiable sense along such ridged lines, numbers and symbols, please.

How is this supposed to bring any good and what would be the source of ethics in that model? Doesn't it also leave some room for a debate on what's more fundamental, ethics or consciousness either, especially under case study of 'evolution' of both? Can it bring people out of a coma?

It's becoming clear that with all the brain and consciousness theories out there, the proof will be in the pudding. By this I mean, can any particular theory be used to create a human adult level conscious machine. My bet is on the late Gerald Edelman's Extended Theory of Neuronal Group Selection. The lead group in robotics based on this theory is the Neurorobotics Lab at UC at Irvine. Dr. Edelman distinguished between primary consciousness, which came first in evolution, and that humans share with other conscious animals, and higher order consciousness, which came to only humans with the acquisition of language. A machine with primary consciousness will probably have to come first. What I find special about the TNGS is the Darwin series of automata created at the Neurosciences Institute by Dr. Edelman and his colleagues in the 1990's and 2000's. These machines perform in the real world, not in a restricted simulated world, and display convincing physical behavior indicative of higher psychological functions necessary for consciousness, such as perceptual categorization, memory, and learning. They are based on realistic models of the parts of the biological brain that the theory claims subserve these functions. The extended TNGS allows for the emergence of consciousness based only on further evolutionary development of the brain areas responsible for these functions, in a parsimonious way. No other research I've encountered is anywhere near as convincing. I post because on almost every video and article about the brain and consciousness that I encounter, the attitude seems to be that we still know next to nothing about how the brain and consciousness work; that there's lots of data but no unifying theory. I believe the extended TNGS is that theory. My motivation is to keep that theory in front of the public. And obviously, I consider it the route to a truly conscious machine, primary and higher-order. My advice to people who want to create a conscious machine is to seriously ground themselves in the extended TNGS and the Darwin automata first, and proceed from there, by applying to Jeff Krichmar's lab at UC Irvine, possibly. Dr. Edelman's roadmap to a conscious machine is at arxiv.org/abs/2105.10461

interesting

I started the video thinking this could be really adding something new to the theory of consciousness but it deceives during 2nd half. Good you mention Dehaene because whatever serious theory we develop today about consciousness it has to be constrained and compatible with Baars and Dehaene's "Global workspace theory". The CEMI theory just moves the "mistery", or so called by Chalmers "hard problem" , to EM that is a kind of misterious / immaterial physical phenomena as quantum mechanics is... but at the end this CEMI theory doesn't look like explaining anything. Let me put it differently: "ok, I buy your CEMI theory, and then, what? what are the implications or the predictions?" Have you measured EMs of different consciouss states of the brain? Can you make the difference of a sleeping brain vs an awake brain just measuring the EMs? Yes of course, but this does not justify a CEMI theory is needed to explain it.... Dehaene and Tononi's theories are able to answer these questions, their theories have concrete results and predictions. This CEMI theory, at least the way it is exposed in this video, looks really more wishful thinking or kind of an "intuition". EM's are important, yes, but saying consciousness is an EM that interacts with a brain looks like going too far.

The consciousness panpsychists talk about is just not interesting, it is wishful thinking. The consciousness we're talking here, the interesting one, is about "that thing that wakes up in the morning and sleeps during the night". It requires a brain-like system. If someone says death matter could have consciousness then I just tell them: "we're talking 2 different things".

Rodney Collins ,disabled havnt been able to work much ,no income for some years,GED no college work had priority ,PTSD,southeast Kentucky: and I've had this idea for years now in mind ,funny how that works huh,but I theorize it is similar to EMF but more in the quantum state as to help me work out the physics better as quantum has more flexibility.(well to the extent we know of quantum physics for now)

Is “energy” or the electromagnetic field our dashboard perception of the underlying “thing in itself”? I think people assume that by conflating energy with consciousness we have the same phenomena. My point is that energy is still on the dashboard side of the ledger. Kant was always adamant that the Noumena is metaphysically beyond our capacity to access regardless of any form it takes phenomenologically. However I do think energy as we perceive it is the most “base form” of our phenomenological world. Everything plays out on the same One medium of consciousness-a “spectrum” if you like-and the other big clue (other than the hard problem) once you become attuned to the logic is the mere fact that we are able to make existence intelligible at all. Life and meta consciousness in it’s immersed immanent “form” falls holistically within the transcendent formlessness of potentiality. That “we” as an integral part of the whole can intuit this formless potential-the other aspect- is not that surprising when seen with the correct idealist/ metaphysical lens. That “we” as meta conscious biological entities-made from patterns of energy-can also make these patterns of ourselves and our surroundings knowable and intelligible (even if incomplete and often misguided) is testament to us being part of that One unified experience. Emergence does not explain this “reality” of both “transcendent intuition” and the “formed constraints and comprehension” within our immanent material existence adequately nor logically. There is always a “magical” transformative happening that defies clear explanatory power. We are integrated parts of the same medium of One consciousness. It is a continuum from the formless >energy >matter >life > self aware life>and then curving back on itself as the reflecting meta consciousness of abstract formless thoughts reflecting its formless origination.

This really adds to my interest in vedic astrology. Planets emit varying EMF through space. Could there be a correlation between these fields and our bodies as receivers?

Why is the brain a Mandelbrot set?

Maxwell's equations and underlying assumptions deserve to be thoroughly questioned and considered. Most people parrot the university curriculum without understanding what they are talking about.

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Consciousness is magnetic field of an astral body, but until it is strong to maintain and control its own electric emotion must reincarnate. When astral body-awareness is strong to maintain emotion turns into self-aware light body.

The Aharonov-Bohm effect suggests that it's the electric / magnetic potentials that are real/physical in classical EM theory, not the electric and magnetic fields.