Appreciate you covering these questions! I was about to contribute 7k for 2025, panicked when I saw $16 sitting in the traditional IRA account. Would you be able to cover how to fill out 8606 in this case? Thanks so much! Subscribed :)
@WaybackRewindКүн бұрын
Certainly not everyone has $30,000 in cash laying around to give to Uncle Sam. Thanks for being the lone voice out here tamping down all the hoopla about Roth conversions. They are not a slam dunk great thing for everyone.
@sunnindawgКүн бұрын
Interesting software: Holistiplan Scenario Analysis. Pricey at $1500.
@shimingpeng26383 күн бұрын
What if I did a backdoor conversion a couple of years ago and didn't know about form 8606 so didn't tell my CPA about this, how can I correct this? Thank you so much for help!
@nareshtailor44745 күн бұрын
Deduction for leasing car?
@WealthKeel4 күн бұрын
Yep, that is still a solid tax deduction. I assume it is a mix of business and personal, so just be sure to document all the work-related items/miles for business. Give those details to your accountant at the end of the year, and they can plug it in the right spots.
@H.A.A076 күн бұрын
Side work and work ur ass up, and avoid burnout, how the can i do this????
@tammytong53176 күн бұрын
Pls help what if i make a big mistake of contributing straight to my roth IRA by mistake (I'm not qualified & should have done backdoor). Can I correct my mistake and still can do the backdoor roth IRA. Thanks in advance.
@WealthKeel4 күн бұрын
No biggie. Contact your custodian (where the funds are held, like a Vanguard or Fidelity) and let them know that you contributed directly to your Roth but your income was over the limit. They should provide a "remove excess contribution" form. Once that is completed and everything is cleaned up, you can start over with the Backdoor Roth IRA process. Just be sure to get this fixed sooner than later. It is a pretty nasty penalty each year it goes unfixed.
@tylerfarley88779 күн бұрын
Is it fine to contribute let’s say $500 per month into traditional Ira and invest inside traditional Ira then backdoor at end of year or would you recommend trying to save up $7,000 cash to contribute and immediately convert to Roth IRA at beginning of each year?
@WealthKeel8 күн бұрын
You can do it that way. However, the main issue would be that any of the growth in that year will be taxable when you convert it. Ideally, you would save up the $7k and do it as one lump sum to start the year. This will then allow the growth to occur in the Roth. Clearly, the market can also go down, so it is not a win every time, but over the long term that should be the better play.
@tylerfarley88778 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@fahdh11 күн бұрын
You are looking at just the base pay, which is combined with a market adjusted pay to reach a total salary. No full time physician anywhere in the US makes 118k.
@WealthKeel10 күн бұрын
I agree that $118k is pretty low; I have not seen that with any clients. However, we have worked with plenty of PCPs and psychiatrists at the VA who came in at or below $200k. That is with market adjustments and bonuses. The $200k is right in the middle of the range we listed. Here is the data from the VA that we used: www.va.gov/OHRM/Pay/2023/PhysicianDentist/AnnualPayRanges_20230101.pdf
@daviddaniel402411 күн бұрын
I put in 6000 in a traditional IRA and invested it and gained 500 dollars. Since it is below the 7000 limit, if I transfer it to a Roth IRA is the entire 6500 a tax-neutral event since it it below the 7000 backdoor limit or is there tax implications for the 500 dollars I gained while investing ?
@WealthKeel10 күн бұрын
No, assuming the original $6,000 was an after-tax contribution, that amount would be tax-free on the conversion. However, the $500 in gains would be taxable with the conversion. The good news is that the $500 in gains does not count towards your $7,000 annual limit, so you still have $1,000 left. This would all be sorted out on the 8606 to show basis vs. gains. Great question, thank you! 👊
@claytonbennett779712 күн бұрын
Would you recommend 457b Roth?
@WealthKeel11 күн бұрын
It will vary by person, but if you have access to a Roth 457b, it is a great tool to have in the bag.
@TaniaMcNutt14 күн бұрын
You did not discuss the fact that a beneficiary may already be contributing to her job's 401k Roth plan. Does this affect the 529 transfer to her regular Roth IRA?
@WealthKeel11 күн бұрын
Great question. No, the Roth 401k would not affect these 529-to-Roth IRA transfers.
@alanstolyar414224 күн бұрын
Is the deadline for the traditional to the backdoor Roth IRA, April 15th of the following year? Additionally, when I fund my traditional IRA, do I have to invest my contribution and then convert? Or can I leave it as cash and convert once my funds settle?
@WealthKeel23 күн бұрын
The only deadline you would need to worry about is the IRA contribution deadline (April 15th or if you file sooner). The conversion does not have a deadline to it. However, if you do this after 12/31 of that tax year, be sure to let your accountant know since you won't get a 1099. This is why most accountants miss the 8606. Most keep the funds in cash until they make the conversion, but it would really be based on when you make the conversion. The sooner, the more likely cash is best. The longer, you may want to consider investing it. Everyone has a different answer to "how long" based on the step-doctrine. Great questions, thanks! 🙏
@alanstolyar41422 күн бұрын
@@WealthKeel A few additional questions. Can you remind me when the step-doctrine would come into effect and how it would impact my decision? Additionally, is 8606 automatically filed with turbotax or do you have to submit it manually when contributing after 12/31 of the tax year?
@jessicaluntta262526 күн бұрын
I have an old Roth IRA from when I was below the earnings limit. Can I convert to that existing Roth IRA or would I need to open a new one just for the conversion?
@WealthKeel25 күн бұрын
Technically, yes, you can easily do that. I will say that some like to keep them separate just for easier tracking and because the conversions (BD Roths) have a separate 5-year rule. It just depends on how nerdy you want to be with it. Great question, thanks! 🙌
@mikegould342128 күн бұрын
If doing the back door Roth IRA, do I need to completely empty My standard IRA or can I still keep in the traditional IRA? I'm 65 and still working
@WealthKeel28 күн бұрын
Yes, you can't have a traditional IRA and complete the Backdoor Roth (Pro-Rata Rule 👎). If you employer 401k plan is good, you could roll-in the IRA to the 401k to clear the basis.
@Aaron-ty6vz29 күн бұрын
Additionally it would be more informative to show a walkthrough on how to complete tax reporting on a common platform ie turbotax. I think this is the effort roadblock for most.
@WealthKeel28 күн бұрын
Yes, very valid point. Hardest part for us there is tiptoeing around "tax advice" as a non-CPA/EA, especially in a KZbin setting. Regardless, we understand the frustration since we have to work with our clients' accountants very closely each year to make sure everything is reported correctly. I did find this link for you: ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/back-door-roth-conversion/00/3244390
@KevinJ-o9c29 күн бұрын
From my understanding the 457b (government) is the governments' version of a 401k, this is why they do not match. I'm employed with local government, non-sworn peace officer in Southern California. I'm 37 y.o. and have been contributing to my Roth 457b (DCP), starting from $0, since Jan 2021. I have about 51k so far and been contributing 10% since up until last month. When I got COLA at 3.4%, I increased my contribution rate 3%, so I'm at 13%. Since I have another 19 years, I've been doing aggressive, which is all US large cap, which is nothing but the S&P 500. Additionally, I have a trading account via CS, and have been contributing $500/month into that for the past year. SCHD, SCHG,VOO (70%) nvidia, archer, soundhound, RGTI (25%) XRP (5%), has been the other "water well" or "basket". So pension after 30 years @ 57 y.o., ROTH 457b, and CS trading account. I'm single, with one 14 y.o. teen. I don't pay CS, bc the mother and I have a verbal agreement, and I help her with our child. Pretty much anything our kid needs, I got it. Not too mention I do contribute about $2000/annually to my kids custodial trading account, and she has a nice 18k in it, for the past 4 years, since I've been contributing. I think I've done well given my situation. God is good and life is stress free and I'm at peace so far. God willing, I pray i make it to my golden years, like most of my "OGs" sorta speak! I respect and aspire to be like all my seniors out their that have made it to a happy and healthy retirement.
@cmjohnson9526Ай бұрын
Qualifying "employment" not Qualifying payments. If you already had 10 years of payments there would be nothing for you to buyback. 😊
@WealthKeel28 күн бұрын
True. Wording could have been better on that one for the PSLF buyback. Thanks! 🙏
@adisingla7596Ай бұрын
If I open a 529 for myself at 45 with the "intention" of using it for education and holding it until I'm 60, will I be able to roll it over to a Roth IRA over the next few years if I have only unearned income then?
@WealthKeel28 күн бұрын
This is also one of those "TBD" topics. Today, IRAs require earned income, however, we don't have exact rules on that from the IRS yet. Further guidance from the IRS may clarify or change the interpretation of the legislation. Here is a good post on it from Fidelity, scroll down to the "Income considerations for 529 rollovers" section at the bottom; www.fidelity.com/learning-center/personal-finance/529-rollover-to-roth
@mplslawnguy3389Ай бұрын
This plan is a hidden gem for cops and firefighters. We tend to retire earlier than other professions, and the 457b is my main tool to do this. Not to get political, but after the events of 2020, a lot of people are looking for a way out. Set yourself up early so you have options at an earlier age.
@WealthKeelАй бұрын
One of the first 457b plans I ever reviewed for a client/friend was for a PA State Trooper, powerful account. Thanks for the note and great job on your 457b 👊
@microbiology4306Ай бұрын
Great video, insightful. I work in healthcare, I have a pension that will pay 70% of my final salary at retirement, and on top of that I have a ROTH 403B plan and a ROTH 457 Plan, and I contribute to both. Is it true I am allowed to max out out both these Roth 403B and 457plans, meaning I contribute $22500 to each plan. Plus am I right to think that my withdrawals will be tax free since I contribute after tax money into both? :) cheers
@WealthKeelАй бұрын
Thank you! 🙏 Yes, the 457b is on its own little island. So you are 100% correct that you can max out a Roth 403b and a Roth 457b. Limit for 2024 is $23,000 and $23,500 for 2025. Yep, tax-free withdrawals (age 59.5 and 5-year rules are implied). 🙌 If you haven't done so, be sure to open a Roth IRA to start your 5-year clock and then when you retire, you can roll those Roth 403b and Roth457b funds into your Roth IRA and already have the 5-year rule completed.
@gary62or45Ай бұрын
Continued, and the RMD funds contributed into a DAF Tax deductible?
@WealthKeelАй бұрын
Technically, yes, but I will do you one better, check out a Qualified Charitable Distribution (QCD). With a QCD, you can direct your RMDs directly to charity, and you will not be taxed on the withdrawal (just make sure your accountant knows this since they still send a normal 1099). This would essentially accomplish your goal, but save you a step.
@gary62or45Ай бұрын
Can you use RMD funds to put into a DAF?
@WealthKeelАй бұрын
I added a note on your comment below for you. Thanks Gary!
@chrisathon8540Ай бұрын
Videos are spot on. One point I'll make about the EDRP is it is something that can roll on and off an offered position daily. You actually should take a screen shot of the job posting. The bureaucracy that you mentioned is 100% accurate especially regarding EDRP. I am the one physician you have now heard of that did not get this benefit. It was offered on my position 8 months before i accepted an offer.
@WealthKeelАй бұрын
Thanks Chris 👊 Sorry to hear about your EDRP. 😞 It feels like anything linked to government bureaucracy should come with a "document, document, document" label. From VA to student loans, you need to document everything so the rug is not pulled out from underneath you.
@davidfentner7248Ай бұрын
do you have to contribute to the traditional IRA each year and then immediately transfer/covert to Roth or once you have done the initial transfer/conversion do you only contribute to Roth the following years?
@WealthKeelАй бұрын
You would need to do it this way each year - don't shoot the messenger 🤦♂️
@nickstpierre8895Ай бұрын
so i only have a 401k through my employer, i dont need to worry about the pro=rata rule, correct?
@WealthKeelАй бұрын
Hey Nick! Yes, with just a 401k you are safe. You don't want to have an IRA, SEP IRA, or SIMPLE IRA.
@nickstpierre8895Ай бұрын
@@WealthKeel Thanks a lot!
@ananegoescu88222 ай бұрын
Super helpful video! Just watched and realized I made a mistake. I just did a first time conversion and I only did it for $7K and left the $2 accumulated interest in the traditional. I thought I can only convert the contribution limit but from listening to you it sounds like I should have converted all of it. How do I fix it? Can I still convert what's left in there (now ~$4) and pay taxes on it later?
@WealthKeelАй бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! 🙏 Yep, easy fix! You can/should convert the interest every year as well. For example, your 1099 would show $7,002 for 2024, but you or your accountant would know that the original $7k was via the non-deductible contribution and only the $2 will be taxable. Now that there are decent yield on cash/MM, you will accumulate a little interest while it is in cash each year. Great job! 👊
@ananegoescu8822Ай бұрын
@@WealthKeel Thanks so much for your quick reply!
@mattpickering97532 ай бұрын
I became eligible for a 457B at a non-for-profit 15 years ago and it changed my life. It accelerated my retirement timeline by an easy decade and how it pays out blew my mind. Because it is restricted to high-value people, most people don't know it exists until you are invited to contribute and I am stunned how many people don't do so. Reduces your taxes, it pays steady gains over time (around 8-8.5%) and the payout is staggering. Our plan pays out on lump sum/5/10/15 year options and it does on on a remaining term in months divided into balance remaining after monthly interest is applied! Do the math on that on $500K plus and it means I don't touch my 401K until my 70s with early retirement in my 50s and my 457B will actually go up in payout over time. Life changing stuff. I guide all of my colleagues who are eligible to contribute to it first. It's that amazing. It moves my retirement into "First World Problem" territory where I am bitching about managing taxes in retirement. I'll take it. I value nothing higher than this plan. I favor it over my 401K given a choice.
@WealthKeelАй бұрын
Love it! Great job. 👊 I am cautious about the "steady gains over time (around 8-8.5%)" note as that does not pass the sniff test. 😬
@GSum-sq1dp2 ай бұрын
I have a tax deferred 457b with a 2% match from my employer. They also give us a pension that will pay 60% or higher of my final salary for life. Some of the younger guys don’t contribute to the 457 even just for the match just because they get the pension.
@WealthKeelАй бұрын
Tell them it is a "free" 2% bonus every year just waiting for them. 🤷♂️ Good work on your side 👊
@A_kash_012 ай бұрын
👍
@missouri60142 ай бұрын
another great job
@WealthKeel2 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙌
@missouri60142 ай бұрын
You asked what topics we would like to hear about it? Buffered ETF's seem like a great idea for those approaching or in retirement.............no all of our money but a portion of it. What are your thoughts? great show btw.
@WealthKeel2 ай бұрын
Yeah, great question. We are not the biggest fans since it is really just an indexed annuity in an ETF wrapper. We don't use any annuities (we do look at SPIAs every know and then with good rates), so these just are not that attractive to us. But as always, to each their own.
@goldknox96292 ай бұрын
Is there any update on if the 15yr clock resets when changing beneficiary.
@WealthKeel2 ай бұрын
Unfortunely, no. 😞 Letter was submitted from 529 industry on 9/2023, and IRS has not provided that guidance yet.
@shredsauce70682 ай бұрын
Do you do 1 on 1 hourly sessions with clients to go over questions?
@WealthKeel2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the question. At this time, we do not offer hourly planning as a standalone service. However, we do offer hourly planning to clients who have completed a one-time plan with us in the past. Check out napfa.org, and you should be able to find an hourly advisor.
@shredsauce70682 ай бұрын
So you never pay taxes on the money? Even when taxes are filed, will you have to pay with tax bill?
@WealthKeel2 ай бұрын
You are using after-tax dollars to fund the IRA, so you did pay taxes on the funds initially. However, the main win with this strategy would be the tax-free compounding growth going forward.
@nissinlilbabybeandoc12852 ай бұрын
can we deduct the kids health insurance premium?
@WealthKeel2 ай бұрын
I would have some follow-up questions here, so you should confirm this with your accountant. However, assuming your kids are on your family plan, then that would be a legit deduction (self-employed health insurance deduction).
@nissinlilbabybeandoc12852 ай бұрын
do i need to do taxes in C schedule to be able to do Solo 401K ? Or do i need to have a LLC to be be able to do Solo 401K
@WealthKeel2 ай бұрын
Yes, 1099 income would be reported on Sch C and this would be needed for the Solo-K. An LLC is not a requirement to have a Solo-K.
@markhayes91303 ай бұрын
The issue I am having is having is my 529 plan provider will only complete transfers to the Roth.....although the limit is $7000 per year. Where would the remaining funds go I was to ask for a full conversion to Roth and Schwab only accepts the $7000 conversion for year 2024? Neither the plan provider nor Schwab could answer that question for me. Thoughts?
@goldknox96292 ай бұрын
You can only transfer the contribution limit of 7k. The lifetime rollover is 35k, so you need to convert 7k over the next 5 yrs to a total 35k
@markhayes91302 ай бұрын
@@goldknox9629thank you for that information...all of which I already understand. The problem I'm having is the 529plan provider will only execute a full refund, in thisncase 37.5k to that Roth. If the limit per year is 7k...where will the remaining 30k sit or convert to?
@WealthKeel2 ай бұрын
I apologize for the delayed response here. Something seems off with your 529 plan provider. They should give you an option for a "Partial Rollover" as well. For example, here is the page for the Utah 529 plan, and you can see on their Form 310 that you can list a partial rollover. my529.org/secure-act-2-0/
@denko443 ай бұрын
Due to new 529 rules, you can still get a jump start on your childs roth. If criteria are met, you can do a roth conversion later in life. Yes its not the same as funding a roth directly pre 18th bday... but it can provide a big head start once they hit 18/ early 20s.
@WealthKeel2 ай бұрын
Yep! We have a video on that as well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooamkI2lmp2LqcUsi=rx5biOe8BAXM7YIL
@chrisbalderas12523 ай бұрын
Great job!
@WealthKeel3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@PratapShinde3 ай бұрын
Can physicians get the loan based on Signed contract that's effective 10 months in future
@WealthKeel3 ай бұрын
Depends on the provider and their underwriting, but you should be able to use that signed contract.
@PratapShinde3 ай бұрын
@@WealthKeel Thank you. Just now came off the phone with one of the lender and they said they can do only if it's out 120 days. Do you know any lenders whom I can use in this scenario
@WealthKeel3 ай бұрын
@@PratapShinde Give this link a try based on your state, and reach out to a few of the leaders in your state. www.whitecoatinvestor.com/personal-finance/the-doctor-mortgage-loan/
@chad38593 ай бұрын
If I transfer a 529 plan from Vanguard to Fidelity, does it reset the 15 year rule or does it go off the origination date at Vanguard?
@WealthKeel3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, there is no official guidance on this still from the IRS. The 529 industry submitted a letter to the IRS in September 2023 seeking guidance on this issue. It is unclear if or when the IRS will provide the requested guidance. Personally, I feel like this one would hold up, but with this being the first year, we don't have a good answer yet.
@swttingbelize3 ай бұрын
You briefly talked about cash jobs such as babysitting and mowing lawns and keeping documentation, Are they able to use this income for funding their ROTH?
@WealthKeel3 ай бұрын
Yep! As long as you report that income on their taxes, you would be good to invest in a Roth IRA.
@cmil81913 ай бұрын
QUESTION: Thank you for taking the time to do this video. I have a pre tax 401K through my work. Can I then open a Fidelity traditional IRA and a ROTH IRA then contribute 6,500 after tax moeny (or whatever the max for Roth) in the traditional IRA and move all of the 6,500 to the Roth IRA??? Would this be considered as the backdoor Roth??? And I will NOT be subject to the pro-rate rule??? I am not touching my 401K it just stays there. Then in my tax return, I will fill out the form 8606. Thank you for your time in advance.
@WealthKeel3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😊 Yes, your outline looks good for a BD Roth. Your 401k will not have an effect on the pro-rata rule. You are safe there.
@SMOKERcs4 ай бұрын
Ur rock. Speak about side hustle
@WealthKeel3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏 I will plan to add a video on side-gigs in the near future. I appreciate the topic suggestion (one of my favorite topics)!
@TheAndreasJones4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video
@WealthKeel4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the note! 🙏
@SamuelOjewale-pc8ru4 ай бұрын
Hi, I understand that you pay employment tax if you have a S-Corp. Do you also pay federal income tax as well? if so, what portion of the income do you pay federal income tax on?
@WealthKeel4 ай бұрын
Hey 👋 Two main income streams from an S-Corp are Salary and Draws. They are both subject to Federal taxes, but only the salary is subject to FICA taxes. They key is finding the correct salary to keep the IRS happy.
@jeremewright69624 ай бұрын
First, thanks a bunch for this video. The nuances of this have been tricky to follow but this is the best video I've seen to clear up some of these issues/and avoid them. However, I do have a question which you touched on in the 8606 section of the video. Like you mentioned, before I performed my 1st Roth Conversion about a month ago, I made sure I had $0 in my Traditional IRA (I'd rolled it into my 401k a couple of years ago), so I'm good there as I started with $0 in my traditional IRA before performing the Traditional --> Roth conversion. However, I ran into the "pennies" issue and I have a clarifying question to ask you. On 8/20, I contributed $7K to my traditional IRA to max my 2024 IRA contribution. The contribution cleared on 8/21, at which time I converted the entire balance of $7K from my Traditional IRA to my Roth IRA. However, after looking at my Fidelity account this morning, I noticed I have $0.95 of interest earned in the money market fund the $7K was in for 1 day (8/20 to 8/21). So, now my Traditional IRA has a balance of $0.95 and will obviously continue to pay interest as $0.95 sits in the account. So here's my question - instead of converting the $0.95 from the TIRA to Roth, could I just transfer the $0.95 to my company 401k (into the traditional - pre tax - portion of my 401k account) to keep the 8606/1099-R clean and not create additional taxable income? I'm less concerned about paying the marginal tax rate on $0.95 and more so just trying to keep the tax forms clean. Not to mention, the in-plan conversion from my Traditional IRA to my Roth IRA is super simple, so an extra form really is no sweat to keep it simple. I assume the $0.95 would be the portion for which I owe marginal taxes.
@WealthKeelАй бұрын
First and foremost, I am sorry for missing your note from two months ago. Not sure how that happened. 🤦♂️ Yes, very common occurrence. It would be easiest to convert the remaining residual to your Roth IRA. It will be taxable, but at $.95, I am sure you can handle it 😉
@TheReviewPigeon4 ай бұрын
very informative video. I recently this past year started contributing to my 457b and the more im learning about it the more thankful I am to have it over some other options ive had in the past
@WealthKeel4 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏 Happy to hear you are taking advantage of this additional savings bucket. Great job! 👊