Scottish not Irish.

ikonikon ikonikon. you need to do some serious research and not that nonsense off wiki. the scots entering scotland from ireland is a mythical tale written by medieval irish monks to give ireland an identity. type in.....leabhar gabhala the study of celtic mythology essay......then, type in....ireland and the celtic culture in search of ancient ireland..... then type in .. . ..ireland in pre-history a concise account...then.type in.....leabhar gabhala/the book of invasions. then type in...book of invasions mythical history of ireland....then type in.....the dna of the irish gael irish origenes......the gauls/galls as they were called. that,s why it,s written as "gallic" in scotland. so, no "gaels" entered scotland from ireland. gaels comes from irish monks.

@@brucecollins4729 ikonikon quotes a scholarly article by a Professor of Medieval History from Trinity College Dublin. Whereas you, a random stream of whatever nonsense enters your head 🙃

​@@zipperzoey2041 and where did this scholar professor of medieval history from trinity college dublin get his history.......the mythical book of invasions. the annals of the four masters written in 1640. so, unless your professor was around in 5/600hundred ad he will just be reading from the same mythical books. there are tombs/standing stones in the orkney islands that date to 4000 bc. it,s known as the capital of great britain. it is where these standing stone spread to all over britain and probably ireland. the wite facade on new grange was added in the 1960s. onyhoo, you people "know for a fact" the scotti entered scotland from ireland(nonsense of course) then surely you must know with the same conviction ......from where/when and how did they get to ireland?

I think it’s usually referred to as “Òran a’ Phignig”

There's an ancient Welsh text written in what is today southern Scotland called the Gododdin, about a last stand against the Anglo-Saxons, and I am amazed how much of it is still understandable with modern Welsh! I too wonder what amazing stories have been lost, but their voices are still to be heard in these languages:)

Same. The cadence sometimes throws me off, but the overall gist is pretty easy for me to understand. I personally find Manx a bit easier to understand, tho.

Maybe you can help me out with something that's been bothering me John Cahalane since you are from Ireland? My last name McLaughlin of what origin does the name McLaughlin come from is it Irish or Scottish? For example I traced my ancestry to a Charles MacLachlan in 1786 when he came to Canada and settled in the Northeast part of New Brunswick in a place called Tracadie NB now. When Charles MacLachlan moved there in 1786 there were a lot of French Acadian settlers already living there and he married an Acadian woman named Anne Lebreton and they eventually had ten children five sons and five daughters who married into the French Families around there. Anyways a man in New Brunswick whom I have never met decided to do a McLaughlin ancestry book on my family clan and in the book it said that Charles MacLachlan came from the Scottish Highlands and that when he came to North America in the 1770s he fought in the American Revolutionary War on the British side on behalf of King George III of England in the Black Watch Highland regiment. Anyways everytime I googled Charles MacLachlan's name it shows that he was born in 1759 in Ireland and that he died in Tracadie NB in 1842. Now would an Irishman fight in the American Revolutionary War of the 1770s on behalf of King George III of England? And also when I checked the origin of the McLaughlin name it goes all the way back to the 5th or 6th century in Northern Ireland. So my question is how do I identify myself as? An Irishman or a Scots man. For years I have been saying I am of a Scottish/Irish and Acadian ancestry. Anyways thank you for listening to me! Cheers 🍻 from Canada 🇨🇦 🇨🇮 🇬🇧 I wish there was a Scotland emoji flag on here, I guess I will have to settle for the Union Jack flag since Scotland is a part of the UK.

​​@@waynemclaughlin8937 McLaughlin (typically spelt McLoughlin here in Donegal) is a common name in Western Ulster, on both sides of the border. In Irish it's Mac Lochlainn. "Mac" means "son" and was historically used as a suffix for patronymic names, a custom brought to Ireland by the Vikings. Many patronymic names became surnames, particularly amongst Norse-Gaels in both Ireland and Scotland. "Lochlann" is the Irish name for Scandinavia. There was extensive Norse settlement in both Ireland and Scotland in the early Middle Ages. Given all this, it's possible there are multiple branches of McLaughlins, as the name could have arisen independently in different parts of either Ireland or Scotland. According to Wikipedia, Western Ulster appears to be at least one origin, and where the name is most common. All this to say, you would have to do genealogical research to find out precisely where your ancestry came from, but it's likely you have ancestry from both Western Ulster and Scandinavia.

@@monkeykingeater lochlan is a scottish name . the vikings settled scotland before ireland. the macs also scottish entering ireland with the scottish gallowglass warriors. also, it's gallic in scotlandd which came from the gaulish regions of europe...gaul. scottish vikings once ruled dublin..

Of course First Nations people have suffered from colonialism, there is no denial of that, but part of the point is to problematise the highly simplistic binary thinking that people are either colonisers or the colonised. Most people are a mixture of both. And unlike First Nations people, many people who are descended from those Highland settlers have no awareness that they have an ancestral tradition other than that of “anglophone Britain” or loyalty to it. That is indicative of how deeply colonised they are.

Have you found a place to learn and a welcoming community? I've been learning since September and have found amazing people... both fluent and learning.

I agree with this 100 percent. Thankfully they're teaching both in high school now

Go with the one you feel closer to.

Similar to my ancestry. I've run across your surname along while looking through documents! lol

@@antseanbheanbocht4993 yes i know, i was just saying it makes me want to revisit the Irish language. I'm aware that its Gaelic and not Irish, but they're very similar to the point where even my poor Irish can make out a good bit of his Gaelic.

Just saying : Gaelic is not the only Scottish language! There is Scots, Doric and; the language of Orkney and Shetland. We are a complicated race!

It is good this is being discussed and more people are becoming aware of our history and the impact of losing a language

It is being revived. The first Gaelic only school is opening up in cape breton! Tha sgoil na gàidhlig ann an cape bhreton a-nis!

There's no time to learn more like the present!