Really? It shouldn't be. Honestly how could anyone even tell from this angle?

Oh snap you’re right! Haha maybe the angle is making it look weird?

Oddly enough, I generally don't know the cost of installs. One: because I just don't see those details, or Two: I don't want to know how much something cost if I mess it up. :) I would reckon this update cost approximately $2000ish. Again I don't know for certain.

Thanks! I love making these, as much as they are, mostly me just waffling on about my job. I am so happy to know that someone has learned, or taken something away from these videos. Absolutely ask me any questions, and I will do my best to answer them! Again, thanks for watching!

@FastsignsKirkland When Installing a cabinet sign on a exterior wall with siding do you have any tips on trying to findd studs?

With wood siding, the best thing I could recommend is a good, not cheap, stud-finder. I have had limited success with them in the past, but they for the most part get you to within a few inches of a stud. The other, more invasive and less professional way is to "exploratory drill" by using the studfinder to get you close, and then just drilling every 1.5-2" until you hit a stud. Like I said, not the best way, but it is effective, especially if the sign will cover those holes. Also make sure to seal them up!

@@FastsignsKirkland Thanks a bunch for the tips. Did the install yesterday and it turned out awesome! Was kind of a tricky one since I had to make one cabinet a hinged cabinet that went over a attic man door. But got it done!

Any time! Glad to hear the install went well!

I noticed that as well! I also had that thought about the 5000k setting, and I am not sure if it would be more or less reliable, since regardless of which setting you choose, those LEDs would be on for their lifespan. That said, you could probably run 6500K to its lifespan, and then just switch to 4000k and have essentially a brand new fixture, just at a different temperature. Great question! Thanks for watching!

Yes! I would also have accepted a bit from an old Robin WIlliams comedy show from the 1990's. Thanks for watching!

It sounds like you know a lot more about this that I do, but what I can say is that In regards to signs, I have found that LEDs, when installed correctly do have a longer life span than fluorescents. That said, there are sooooo many more nuances to LEDs than fluorescents. In this particular instance, I was involved with the initial conversion of this sign approximately 7 years prior to this video (and with a different company), which is right about the expected lifespan of the LEDs and power supplies. But the best case for this sign was to replace everything with newer, more efficient LEDs and power supplies. Perhaps the market is still adapting to converting fluorescent to LEDs. I have had great success with Keystone Signhero products, as they are a 1 to 1 replacement system for fluoro to LED, and they are sooo easy to do, just replace the old lamps with the new LEDs with minimal wiring. I can't give you any solid answers, but just know that there are new and innovative solutions our problems coming out all the time. I hope this helps, and thanks for watching!

@@FastsignsKirkland Thanks for your most thoughtful and informative reply.

Thanks 🔥

Exactly! What I do has become almost muscle-memory, so my mind just wanders, and I say some weird things. It's fun! Thanks for watching!

Yep! I am just that fast. I finished next weeks installs today. The world just hasn't caught up to me yet. :)

@@FastsignsKirkland I love when that happens. I’m almost as fast as you kzbin.infojyGEEJl9mi8?si=3CJ4HPxWSt5qTVTp

Nice!

Always. It's hard to tell but I wire nutted the black and white together (which I really do not like to do) since there just wasn't enough room to fit two wire nuts in the hole that looks like it was chewed out by a really small beaver, and if anyone did turn the breaker on it would just trip instantly. And the green wire you don't need to worry about.

¡Gracias!

I agree, unless you want the look of stainless steel, it really has no place in sign installation.

In other outdoor applications, stainless bolts love to gall and seize up and snap off when trying to work with them, I hate them

I honestly have not had a good experience with stainless steel outdoors. Thanks for watching!

@@FastsignsKirkland If you want corrosion resistance, heavy hot dip galvanized. It doesn't seize up like stainless even after decades in the weather.

Yes! I love me some hot-dip galvanized! Most of what I use these days is zinc coated, cheap box-store hardware because it works ok, and some of the signs I install just won't be up for very long anyways.

I couldn't agree more. LED's definitely have changed the way we illuminate our lives. But man, there needs to be a lot more industry standardization for the exact reasons you stated. This is exactly what I run into when I get a call to service an LED sign. Sure, for the most part the power supplies are interchangeable, but you HAVE to have the right brand/temperature/wattage of LEDs or they just won't match. Generally, (and it depends on the manufacturer) LED's last anywhere from as few as 10,000 hours to over 50-60,000 hours. But, like you, I have replaced LED's in signs that were only a year or two old. Lot's of factors, especially in signs, lead to them failing prematurely such as moisture in the air (even though they are sealed) shorts, overloading, etc. Thanks for watching!

Thanks, will do!

Thanks for watching!

Thanks, I try to work as efficiently as possible!

3M 40C with a gloss laminate. Thanks for watching!

@@FastsignsKirklandwhat are your opinions on wet application? Your work was very clean

​@@FastsignsKirkland no soapy water for the application?

Generally I would wet app floods like this, but these were not very big so I wasn't very worried about it.

Its just ZEP multipurpose cleaner. Works great to clean virtually anything, and in this case works wonders to remove oxidation. Thanks for watching!

Thanks!

We don't manufacture electric signs at our shop, since we are not a UL shop. This one was made by another company and shipped to us. I do have a video of me reassembling one after we painted it though. kzbin.infoGr45r06yUhU

Thanks for watching! This is probably my favorite kind of sign to install, super easy and they look awesome. Thanks for the sub, I really appreciate it!

I do try. Thanks for watching!

Thanks!

Appreciate the kind words!

Thanks for watching! Feedback like this is super helpful!

@@FastsignsKirkland Sorry, just flying fast video has no value. Does not share anytning other than you are doing an installation.

Thats... kinda the point... of the video... /shrug Thanks for watching!

@@FastsignsKirkland Ok if you say so.

Thanks! They are about the equivalent brightness, more or less. The LEDs will be slightly brighter and a much whiter color than a warmer/yellowish light that CWHO lamps had. Thanks for watching!

Its 3M 40C with a latex print. This was a custom color, and not a stock vinyl color, so we had to print it. Hope that helps!

¡Muchas gracias!

Appreciate that! I try to do the best I can!

Precision eye-balling! ;) Actually the paper is square, so I measure off of that. Also before I apply the graphics I step back and make sure it looks ok.

@ awesome thank ya!

@ the white really pops off the red

I am actually a sign installer, so most of the time I am installing, and sometimes removing vinyl. So no, I don't just go around and remove random vinyl from buildings, that would be a crime, and who would film that and upload it to the internet?

@ what? Legal? What the hell is legal? I’m Mexican so yk

​@@FastsignsKirkland... but it'd be funnier if ya did

@@FastsignsKirkland Thats what someone who goes around removing random vinyl from buildings would say

That's the worst! Sunbaked is a nightmare!

Appreciate it!

Good feedback! I will start to add a few seconds of the result at the end. Thanks for watching!

What would you like to see? I could do closer in shots of the finished result if that is what people want to see.

It makes perfect sense to me!

Thanks!

Thanks!

Uh, don't. Unless you are a sign installer like me, and are contracted to do the work. Otherwise it is Malicious Mischief, and a felony.

Hello!

We do a lot of that too! Just add heat and elbow grease, and its actually not that bad.