Defence 4 is not suitable for me, it is way too tight. Are there alternatives with similar military grade specs?

I do not recommend this bag. The spec put out by Carinthia does not tell the truth and it is definitely not based on military use standard. I am ethnic Finn from the Lapland of Finland but former officer of light arctic infantry, Sweden having slept in much much roomier bags. I bought Defence 4 L for persons below 200 being triggered by its military durability use profile, a bag used by the Finnsih Army, which a strongly doubt. The specification does not make sense at is way too tight and small that I can hardly pull up the zipper. I compare that to Marmot micron 40 large which has a shoulder with of 79 cms and feels roomier with no issues. Defence 4 is specified at 87 cm, 7 cm wider than the marmot but it is much tighter and does not work out for me. Specification must be way wrong. I measured its length and it is 214 cm not 230 as specified, also wrong.

thank you

Way to pricy!

Patiko! 👍

Used this in Dutch army. First sleeping bag and bivybag (in dpm camo) were made by Carinthia. After a few years, knock off made by the Spanish company Fesca was issued. Less quality, more weight. Bought myself a Carinthia bivy bag and sleeping bag for my hiking trips. Its great gear.

I have an older version of dutch army bivvy, in dbp cambo looks very simular to yours. But a little heavier i guess

Jo garsas tai nerauk rūtų. Galėjot kur nors kaime susėst.

Whats better the defense 4 or 6

Hello, I would like to know if I leave the tent and the bag set up outdoors, at bedtime they will be frozen, can I use a bag when it is 1 degree outside? How do you do it? Thank you.

Backpack fits in the foot end.. Mine does. 185 would not be a problem for you, 200cm+ is overkill for 186..

The defence 4 manage -11 C no problem. 1) always use sleeping pad or else compression between you and ground makrs you cold. 2) Prolong the sleeping bags full function by keeping a liner inside your sleeping bag, so dirt (skin oils etc) don't reduce its insulation capacity you only wash the liner not the sleeping bag. 3) dont sleep with your head inside the sleeping bag, You sleep with its hole around your neck, this way you seal heat in and breathing vapor outside the sleeping bag. Use balaclava , hood , cap in any Combo. If you do all those you will reap the full potential of your defence 4 bag.

Jūsų Leathermanų plienas minkštesnis už minėto turistinuko. Ypač kalbant apie reples;)

I have slept in -14 C in a hammock with that sleeping bag and a under blanket from dd. I was pretty warm and never cold. Only wore t-shirt, underwear, socks and a hat. In plus 4 I had to open it a bit to cool of.

You have your sleeping bag inside out, the zipper insulator is supposed to be on the inside and then the storm flap on the outside.

I slept with tropen on -1 celsius. If i say i didnt even close the zipper completely, it was about 1/4 of the way open and i was wearing boxers and long sleeved shirt, people probaply will accuse of being all bs because this dude was freezing with defence 4 in -4 celsius... i used Finnish army defence 4 (same temperature ratings, same manufacturer, slight changes...) in as low as -20 and didnt freeze. I slept outside like 120-130 days when i was in the army and that was the only bag we used, if it was +30 on summer day we used it, if it was -22 during winter we used that, it was the only bag we got.

How about taking care of expensive LOWA boots with Waterstop and Active Creme ? These Caminos could look a lot better !

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Evening mate, great gear lol. Thanks for sharing buddy 👍🔥🇬🇧

geras video. Turiu Glock 19 generation 5 ir neseniai nusipirkau Glock 20 generation 5 10mm. geriausi pistoletai, patikimesni uz Sig sauer arba Smith Vesson. Padeka uz jusu laidas.

Great video. I have been reading the comments, only civilians use the pertex shell on the outside and military we use Carinthia inside out, as pertex shell on the outside creates an isothermic barrier you wont feel the benefit of the insulation below you. If you use the pertex shell on the outside like a civilian, then its best to have a foam mat/pad inside the bag with you. You must have bought a bag from an ex-soldier. I hope this clarifies this argument in the comment section for you....peace,

I used my defence for on our winter sleepover at 2000m on a mountain at -13C° and a shitty tent and 50cm snow. And it was very cold 😅😅😅 but i think the tent was the problem it was a summer tent with a net as inner shell and yea the wind blew the whole night threw my tent 😅 but i got some sleep. At the moment i looking for videos on the bivy bags from carinthia to deside witch one to buy

Useless in snow! You’d get buried

Carinthia combat bivy bag is listed as 250cm in lenght. Why so fukin long? Most people are propably 180-190cm at tops. Is there really going to be 70-60cm room for foot??

I asked myself which sleeping mat will fit inside.

hultafors bruk kirvis visam gyvenimui :)

Nice

You’ve got the sleeping bag inside out. The smooth side is outside and the crimple is inside.

Your bag is inside out.

Hello! The lithuanian military doesnt get these issued. We get the tropen and defense 4 but not the bivy. At least regular infantry. Maybe special ops, yeah.

Varykit į Ukrainą,daugiau veiksmo bus...

How do i get this brand in the US?

MSR windburner irgi geras su kitu šildymo principu (katalitiniu) , o ir apsauga nuo vėjo turbūt iš sistemų geriausia.

Geras dalykas. Solo kelionėms yra Jetboil micro mo. Tad pats zip tik su pjezo ir dujų srauto reguliavimo vožtuvu. Taip sakant sekanti generacija. Prie minusų priskirčiau degiklio mažą diametrą. Tai naudojant kitus indus kaitina tik išskirtinai centrą kur maistas pradeda degti, o kraštuose dar žalias. Mini mo jau per didelis. O flash tik vandeniui šildyti. Mikro idealus vidurys.

Sveiki. Peržiūrėjau seriją. Įdomu. Kelios mintys: 1. Uždarytą konservą šildyti galima nestipriai įlenkus šonus priešingose pusėse. Nuo karščio kyla slėgis ir išsitiesinus skardai reikia nuimti nuo ugnies. 2. Papildoma nagų dildė nereikalinga. Yra letermane su deimanto dulkėmis. 3. Daug peilių :) 4. Siųlau išbandyti vandens filtravimo/švarinimo filtrą Grayl. 5. Naudinga ir patogu tualetinį popierių užsivakumuoti porcijomis celofane vakumatoriumi.

hello, thanks for the demonstration ! Do you know the weight of the pole and stakes ?

Hi, can this bivy be used in the winter, if so what temperatures can it be used in?

Labas! Ar pagamintumet Finka nkvd?

Good review. I hope you’re not a Zionist

Did the Dane call a world-renowned Swiss Army knife a “hobby knife?” FOH, witchyo Mossad lookin @$$$$

Gentlemen: find you a woman that admires you the same Zadov admires Leatherman 😍

Hate those shitty leatherman tools! Expensive junk that chip or break!

hmm, intersting for some reason i wanna join the military idk why tho

I'm curious if you've tried the Tropen and Defence 4 combined? I've heard this combination is supposed to be extremely warm, but I haven't heard any first-hand anecdotes. I own both myself but here in Texas we rarely see weather below -6 or -7 C.

Puikūs ginklai ir puikus laikas👍

Kodel nebekuri nauju video?

Maybe you’re a cold sleeper, i’ve slept in the defense 1 at 33°F, 0.5°C with just sweat pants and a long sleeve shirt it was perfectly comfortable. Obviously the temp rating won’t be the same for everyone.

Were can one buy these?

Highest quality doesn't come at low prices. Nice video.

.. I think you have the sleeping bag inside out: the insulation flap should be on the inside of the zip, the wind flap on the outside.