I swear that if I were King, there'd be a whole bunch of "engineers" at Mercedes being arrested and put on trial for crimes against humanity! So much idiocy went into the design of the R230.
@filmmakerjoe7 күн бұрын
Why did you change the line on drivers side also?
@MrMarco69006 күн бұрын
Since the passenger side was leaking, I'm sure the driver side was probably not far behind so I changed both while everything was apart.
@williemcglown800128 күн бұрын
brain surgery............ too much .....take to shop
@laca1264Ай бұрын
great video. Mine seems to time-out about once a month and I simply reset the fuse. This is likely the cause. Not sure I have patience to do this myself.
@vincentpribish9276Ай бұрын
I didn't see where your soft close actuator worked. Any idea how much air pressure is required to extend that plunger to activate the final lock position ? Additionally, there's 2 micro switches behind the 3 wire connector. I'll assume the one turns off the light on the door switch. Fully closed position. The other is to switchover the air direction solenoid from open to soft close. Is this correct ? A wiring diagram would be very advantageous. Thanks
@MrMarco6900Ай бұрын
If you start at timestamp 13:36 you can see that I'm simulating the trunk closing by moving the latch down, then you hear a second click which indicates that it's working. I'm just testing it there to make sure it works before I install it. I didn't look at any of the electronics as the air leak was the problem. Not sure what the air pressure is but it's probably too much for this plastic unit. I would also suggest maybe plastic welding those spots instead of using epoxy as the epoxy doesn't seem to hold up.
@vincentpribish9276Ай бұрын
@MrMarco6900 Thanks for the speedy response. Just to clarify this is a pneumatic pump that supplies air pressure and not to be mistaken with a vacuum pump correct? I bought a replacement assembly that looks virtually brand new unused. The pump will activate the open feature which is the hockey puck however the larger white tank which activates the second position soft close does nothing. I presume that is because the air is not getting shifted to that tank. There's only one inlet but two outlets so obviously that is a shifting valve. The spring force on that soft close pneumatic is extreme. I'm wondering if 1 it's just not shifting or 2 the pump can't produce enough pressure. What are your thoughts ? Thanks
@vincentpribish9276Ай бұрын
Additionally, if you look at the 3 wire connector. One is common the other two go through each micro switch. In the first lock position the first switch is closed. In the final lock position the second switch is closed. This latter one is surely to turn off the red light on the drivers door. I got to believe that first switch tell the air shift solenoid to divert air to the soft close actuator.
@MrMarco6900Ай бұрын
Vincent it sure sounds like you know a lot more about the operation than I do. The only failure mode I have seen or read about with these are the air leaks causing the PSE pump to time out. I haven't dove into anything beyond that so I wouldn't be much help.
@vincentpribish9276Ай бұрын
@@MrMarco6900 I appreciate your help and applaud you for a great video! I love this car and have tackled many repairs since owning it. I can't imagine someone owning this vehicle without being able to do their own repairs. My most recent task was the audio system and narrowing down the intermittent amp ( causing no sound ) using the fiber optic bypass tool. Wouldn't it be great if we had all the references / manuals at our fingertips?
@carmen6154Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@snipershot8049Ай бұрын
i have 2012 cls 550 4matic what could be the levels numbers for it ?
@Fkzionism2 ай бұрын
Great video sir! You have a new sub! I was trying to tackle the main cylinder over the windshield but i was interested in running the new cylinder and is lines on the driver side from front to back. Not sure if you have done this before but I'm stuck in a situation where i cannot get the lines to come out where it meets the rear piller near the back seat. Any help would be appreciated!
@MrMarco69002 ай бұрын
That was the first one I did. That is about the only cylinder you can repair yourself. Just roll the window down and put a towel over the door and hang the cylinder over the door and you can work on it there. I used a standard o-ring kit from ebay and it's held up for many years now. I see on ebay they now have the original cup type oring also. If you want to send it off for repair, I would think you would need to pull the hoses off from the pump side and pull them thru to the front. I you still can't get them thru you might have to take some panels off. You can also cut the hoses and buy hose couplers from cabriohydraulics, they are pretty pricey but that is an option. You can see them in my Roll bar cylinder video. Thank you for the comments!!
@tetos120072 ай бұрын
I find out that Dont need to remove the sit belt. All you need is move the side panel and pull the sit belt at the same time, that give enough space to do the job.
@franzm772 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks!
@paullyczek93583 ай бұрын
You did spectacular video. Short, concise and to the point!
@vincephan3443 ай бұрын
Great video, i was able to use this to get the roll bar to roll down. However, it wont stay locked down, it just springs back up, any ideas?
@MrMarco69003 ай бұрын
You are operating the top with the switch to move it down, then it goes all the way down, then moves back up after you release the switch ? Does it move all the way back up, or a quarter of way. Go to timestamp 28:20. Do you see the little spring arm that is above the silver knob? Is that moving to the left when you operate the top then to the right when you release the switch, like the video?
@vincephan3443 ай бұрын
@@MrMarco6900 When i did the screw driver method with a friend and pushed the bar down manually, we were able to get it to go down. As soon as we let go of the bar it pops back up all the way. I'll take a look at that spring again that you mentioned, maybe that's why it's not locking in the down position Thanks again for the help!
@michaelobrien42454 ай бұрын
You can buy a kit for less than a hundred bucks...that has the main seal that goes out on all 10 hydraulic cylinder...there's no need to remove or cut the lines..you can remove the plunger on each hydraulic cylinder...replace the actual gasket that failed and install the plunger into cylinder again...the key to this is removing the plunger...there's a german guy who explains how to do this..(on KZbin)....if you are going to this much trouble...go one more step...and fix the actual cylinder right in place on the car...I personally fixed 5 cylinders so far...seems like when one goes out another goes out soon after.....you must drill a small hole in the cylinder to release a clip that keeps the plunger inside assembly...must see (video)...it is always the same gasket on every hydraulic cylinder....carefull...don't scratch the plunger wall... Again see video first...it's slow and tedious....but quite doable....
@MrMarco69004 ай бұрын
At the time I made this video, the only videos I found to fix the cylinders required special tools. The only one I was able to fix myself was the front roof lock cylinder by drilling a hole in the cylinder. Do you have a link to the video?
@daniellichowid87324 ай бұрын
Hey Marco,your video and explanation of that process is awesome!! Thanks a lot!!.. if I understood correctly, on the right side you only need to replace -or fix with Cabrio people - the lock paw, is that correct?
@MrMarco69004 ай бұрын
Left side (driver side, USA) has just the one lock paw cylinder, right side has the roll bar cylinder and one lock paw cylinder
@BuildnMaintain4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@_palaced_50674 ай бұрын
The factory band that you broke, did you get any problems later on.
@MrMarco69004 ай бұрын
Not sure which band you mean. If you mean the small one where I twisted the wire to hold it on, then no, no problems with that after 3 years, haven't been able to find that clip anywhere, wire has been holding fine. No problems with anything else after installing a new radiator.
@russdory10814 ай бұрын
Ty, just forgot how that darn lil overflow clip went on and u helped cause I had it backward for sure.
@danielferry47985 ай бұрын
Hello Marco. This is a great video! It helped me find the leak in my SL 500. It’s in the roll bar actuator. I removed it. One question. I notice you cut out the passenger lock pawl and sent that for overhaul with the actuator. Why? Is that a common fail point? And the drivers side lock pawl why did you send both? We’re they leaking?
@MrMarco69005 ай бұрын
The passenger side lock paw was leaking. The driver side wasn't leaking but I did it anyway while I had everything apart. I don't know if these cylinders are a common problem. I haven't moved the roll bar in years then a week after I did actually move the roll bar, the leaks came. I think the seals dry out if you don't use them for a long time, then when you do use them they start leaking.
@daniellichowid87324 ай бұрын
@@MrMarco6900 I have that type of problem!!, my both sides are leaking. i managed to removed the right side and seems like just the lock-paw is leaking, not the cylinder..is that possible? and so is the left side, the only hydraulic line i`m seeing is the one on the lock-paw
@MrMarco69004 ай бұрын
@@daniellichowid8732 If you go to time stamp 14:39 you can see the hydraulic lines to the roll bar cylinder. They are hiding behind the cylinder.
@danielferry47985 ай бұрын
I watched your roll bar video also, excellent job explaining the task. Thank you! We all appreciate you!
@johnhall44275 ай бұрын
So since you said your toe was out of wack after installing that camber arm and still eating up your tires and that you were able to fix that situation by adjusting the toe arm.....i was wondering how do you adjust toe on these cars? Or did you end up getting adjustable toe arms also?
@MrMarco69005 ай бұрын
For the rear toe, if you follow one of the lower arms inward, you'll see the adjustment bolts hiding above the exhaust pipe. You have to lower the exhaust pipe by removing the rubber exhaust hangers toward the rear. Then you can lower the exhaust enough to get to the adjustment bolts. It's been awhile but I believe you need to loosen both bolts then move the wheel to the desired position, then lock down the bolts. I did a string alignment and was able to get it pretty close, later took it to the dealer to have them do it. One of the very rare occasions I take my car to the dealer! Here is a picture of the bolts. mbworld.org/forums/sl-class-r230/826529-there-special-tool-rear-toe-adjustment.html
@johnhall44275 ай бұрын
@@MrMarco6900 Awesome! Thanx so much for fast reply......👍👍
@eyasalqadi6 ай бұрын
@MrMarco6900 could you update us if there is any problem with the couplers that you used? Usually i replace the whole links from the pump, but i'm looking into this solution, but not sure if i'll have a very small leaking in the future , i appreciate your video, you are amazing
@MrMarco69006 ай бұрын
I have not opened the panel up and looked at the connections, but it's been a few years now and I haven't lost any fluid out the tank. The top does go up and down daily, but I normally don't move the roll bar.
@eyasalqadi6 ай бұрын
@@MrMarco6900 thanks for quick reply, did you have to change any other hydrolik cylender, im so afraid from the two main and the assistant one, they look so hard to reach, i hope i'll never have to replace it,, thank you for the video, it makes our life easier with this nice car
@MrMarco69006 ай бұрын
Yes, in order, I've had to replace the top lock cylinder, right frame lock, left frame lock, trunk lid drive, roll bar, two lock paws. The top lock cylinder is the only one I was able to rebuild myself.
@eyasalqadi6 ай бұрын
@@MrMarco6900 i see, i already replaced the two frame locks , the left paws (now i'm doing the right pows) the trunk lid, hopefully I want need to replace the Right/left load assist cylinder(2308001572) or the right/left Main lift cylinder,(2308001272) because I could not find any video on how to replace those cylinder, i think the whole process looks scary.... i'm preparing my self for this hug job in advance .....
@Most4Wanted46 ай бұрын
Any advice to bypass close trunk lid error message? I have a leak, ran out of fluid mid cycle, roof closed, front trunk not latched to finish close cycle, I manually opened trunk, topped fluid which was very low, now want to close the convertible all the way now that there is fluid in the pump, but stuck at close trunk lid message (which I have closed many times including the trunk partition). Thank you.
@MrMarco69006 ай бұрын
This video shows how to manually open and close the roof. You should be able to get it from this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYvXaaGsfM2Afdk
@Most4Wanted46 ай бұрын
@MrMarco6900 Thank you! I was able to manually close the trunk. I definitely have a faulty cylinder as the carpet by the left trunk feels damp, do you have a good resource on the layout of the cylinders, so I can Starr brainstorming which ones to replace😅 Thanks!
@MrMarco69006 ай бұрын
Here is a diagram of the cylinders and location. tophydraulics.com/content/51-mercedes-benz-r230-info
@Most4Wanted46 ай бұрын
@@MrMarco6900 Thank you, this is perfect!
@Most4Wanted45 ай бұрын
@MrMarco6900 Hey! So I am getting around to using that Top Hydraulic website and diagram you sent to order and change my faulty cylinder. Any advice on how to go about diagnosing the faulty cylinder. I suspect the back left trunk lock cylinder as that is damp and left trunk carpet is soaked in sprayed oil. Any suggestions to test other cylinders, such as the left 2 cylinder by the trunk lock cylinder, I suspect right side and very front cylinder to be good. Thanks!
@jankro16 ай бұрын
Actually its vacuum which operates that
@breadsmith66457 ай бұрын
Love that your window magically goes from up with the door card removed to down a few minutes later. Really helping us out here
@breadsmith66457 ай бұрын
The window does need to be at least half way down in order to remove window regulator. Also if your window is stuck in the up position. While holding the window down button have someone apply even pressure on the top while pushing down. It shouldnt take much force to get it to go down.
@carlosfigueroa30657 ай бұрын
That’s for the video it worked perfect in my car . Saved me lots of money
@jayjohnson88077 ай бұрын
Did you work on two cylinders or one? I thought you said there was no cylinder on the driver’s side. I’m confused.
@MrMarco69007 ай бұрын
There are 3 cylinders altogether. You have the roll bar cylinder on the passengers side only, which raises and lowers the roll bar, and the small lock paw cylinders on both sides which lock the roll bar in place.
@oscarperez89827 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to show us your video it was very 👍 useful
@victorstasyuk29328 ай бұрын
how did you remove the plastic clear cover ?? @MrMarco6900
@MrMarco69008 ай бұрын
Hello Victor. Start at timestamp 1:55 that shows you how to separate the clear plastic cover.
@dieheusmanns37958 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. Your video was very helpfull
@narcissistinjurygiver29328 ай бұрын
did you change the lower control arm bushings?
@MrMarco69008 ай бұрын
No, just the camber arms.
@narcissistinjurygiver29328 ай бұрын
@@MrMarco6900 the bushings on the lower control arm fail and causes camber problems. you have to change them
@narcissistinjurygiver29328 ай бұрын
can you add the dynamic seat control unit to one that does not have it? I am going to do this repair and would like to upgrade
@MrMarco69008 ай бұрын
I couldn't say as I don't know what comes with the non Multicontour seat. Seems it would be a heck of a lot of work. You would also need to program it in with a DAS computer.
@BobbyLopez-b6s8 ай бұрын
Unbelievable! A garage that services Mercedes wanted $1,100 to fix. With your help I did it for $10 bucks! Having a problem with getting the rear cusion seat back in with the two red seatbelt attachment
@tmiller31649 ай бұрын
Thank you for the very detailed video. Given the work involved, my suggestion is buy the new part (entire actuator assembly) and fix it right the first time. I found the part on amazon $375.
@raydion76029 ай бұрын
Great video well edited and straight to the point
@charlied78869 ай бұрын
Thanks for the demonstration. I just bought my first 2006 SL55 a few months ago & these tips are hard to come by for those of us new to the R230's.
@DS-qz8xb9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video. I have a 2006 s500 with the m113 engine. My upper hose became so frustrating that I almost had it towed to the dealership. Your video showed me how to take tension off the connection. I made the same cut on the connection, though I used a router type bit on my rotary tool. Made the cut and I was able to easily pull the connection off. (Eazy-Peazy.) Thanks again.
@joecamacho851610 ай бұрын
Great video! I used the air pump wedge bags on Amazon…they are bullets proof and will last a lifetime!!!!
@MrMarco690010 ай бұрын
Yeah those look to be much stronger. I guess it would be just a matter of getting the right size.
@swissulu11 ай бұрын
Respect Sir. Great info and it works. 👍 Greetings from Zurich.
@nixprivate347111 ай бұрын
So many vids on this issue, and finally one I fully understand! Thank you 🙏🏻
@cboulougouris682511 ай бұрын
i have 1998 129 mercedes sl500 where i buy that adjustable rear camber arms and what size T.Y.V.M
@MrMarco690011 ай бұрын
Here are a few links. k-mac-camber-kits.com/product/mercedes-501526-1m82-03-w124-c124-r129-r170-w201-w202-c208-w210-incl-amg-rear-adj-upper-camber-arms-toe-adjustment-also-included/ f1-fabrication.myshopify.com/products/mercedes-benz-rear-camber-kit-adjustable-arm-r107-r129-r230-sl-class-made-in-usa-3?_pos=1&_sid=743996c7f&_ss=r
@bob1325-m4q11 ай бұрын
what if ktag doesn’t load the driver for my e430 ME2.8 ecu? where do i get the driver or request it from ?
@MrMarco690011 ай бұрын
Sorry I wouldn't know where you could get a driver for a specific model. You could possibly find another mercedes model that has the same part number for the ECU and try the driver for that model. Try deleting and reinstalling the program. Possibly try the program on a different computer.
@rogerioalmeida684911 ай бұрын
Best video !!!! I have oil disappearing and don’t see where it is going about 1 liter o oil filling and not a drop in the car or ground floor ….. any ideas where all this oil is
@MrMarco690011 ай бұрын
The first one to go is usually the top front lock cylinder, you have to remove the headliner to check that one. Of course you have to remove the panels to check the roll bar cylinders too. Did you check all the other places I showed in the video?
@joelblauvelt506210 ай бұрын
It will take quite a bit of leaked oil from the pawls to accumulate in the rocker panel below before appearing as a puddle on the ground.Once it does, you'll know whether it's the Left or Right one. I emptied my reservoir twice before it became obvious.
@willwills10011 ай бұрын
When I close mine I don't here anything no motor running no air nothing where does it get its air from, does it get air from the same pump for locks roof because they also don't work all the fuses are good any help would be very thank full
@MrMarco690011 ай бұрын
Both get the air from PSE pump. It's in the trunk under the hydraulic pump, (bottom left) If you are sure the fuse is good, you might have a bad PSE pump. Search Mercedes PSE pump and you'll find a few good videos on how to fix it or replace it.
@bradmorgan91111 ай бұрын
Outstanding video. The best video on this process I have seen. Very thorough and you didn't skip any of the details on how you did everything. I am going to be doing this soon on my SL500 and your video is a tremendous help. Thank you!
@MAILIAMMUSIC Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks so much.
@DanielCloez Жыл бұрын
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@WilliamMurphy-f5l Жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration of replacing that marker bulb, thank you.
@josephhenrich7784 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another deep dive r230 video. They are a big help to me and my own r230
@sano0311 Жыл бұрын
Lets say that cylinder dies again than you just repeat the process. Can those connectors be reused or do you have to remove the line? Thank you so much. You are amazing teacher.
@MrMarco6900 Жыл бұрын
According to the cabriolethydraulics website, they are not reusable. You might be able to use another set of couplers but I don't think there is a lot of slack in the hose back to the pump. Might be possible but I don't know.
@lwphinney Жыл бұрын
Mr Marco i have a leak but its not coming from the hydraulic cylinder it's coming from a hose. do you have a part number for that splice kit?
@MrMarco6900 Жыл бұрын
Don't have a part number, I've only seen them at cabriolethydraulics. At this moment they are saying "We currently have a low inventory on Hose Couplers. Please contact us for availability". They do make the hoses for the R230. "Hoses are available in sets or individually. Call us for pricing at (941) 756-1300." Click the link in the description for their website.