Thanks Alex! Fair enough, I personally liked the wide aspect ratio for this location to emphasize the vastness of the mountain range. Particularly when watching on a large TV screen.

if you want to do proper long range, you'd need a 4000mah liion pack (for up do 18min flight times), and I don't think there's any way a 5incher could reasonably fly that. For anything else, including the shots in this video, you can use normal LiPos and a 5, 6 or 7 incher. So the BOB57 trades a bit of agility for versatility which for me is great and I've never felt like I needed a 5 incher on top, but I'm also not into freestyle flying. If anything I may get into super long range missions at some point, for which I would prefer a 7inch quad with dual antennas. Hope that helps :)

@@peakperspectives_ch helps a lot. Thank you very much. So are you flying the BOB with a 4000mah Liion pack aswell? Is that possible? I think it will be the right drone for me aswell :)

@@MaxLoew-ds5ez yes definitely, and I occasionally do, when I just want to do some relaxed cruising. I've uploaded a few videos as well where I was using it. Comes with the downside that you have to keep an eye on your maximum power draw to not damage the Liion pack. But it has the best flight time to weight ratio making it a must have for long range and portability when hiking.

@@peakperspectives_ch thanks very much for the support - sounds like my new drone this year

Thanks! the battery does feel quite heavy when flying and I would only recommend it for when you need the range. What can also be fun is that you get more momentum with the added weight, which gives the flight a relaxed flow. But it certainly doesn't feel responsive, when you're used to lipos.

Hey man, thanks for the kind words! glad you enjoyed the videos and found them helpful in making your mind up. You won't be disappointed, the BOB57 is such a versatile drone :)

@@peakperspectives_ch One question: do you recommend any particular fpv simulator? I've already done some research (unchrashed, tryp, etc.) but I'm wondering if you might be able to advise which one would be best to practice on before buying a BOB57? TBS tango 2 Pro radio already ordered :) I've only used Mini 3 Pro so far and know it's a total different world, so need to practice 😅

@@AroundtheShots can't really go wrong with any of the modern sims imo. Personally I quite like Tryp with the dynamic scenarios and nice environmens, but DRL or Uncrashed are good too. Most importantly, train on the actual Tango controller, not some normal game controller (where the left stick auto centers), otherwise you'll build some bad habits quickly. In that sense - hope it arrives soon haha

thanks! haha not exactly sure what it was, but probably around 3km

Thanks Lenny! in pleasant 20 degrees celsius weather, rough flight times are: 1550mah lipo - 8min 1800mah lipo - 10min 30sec 4000mah liion - 18 min In a cold climate such as this one, you'll have to deduct at least 30% of the time.

@@peakperspectives_ch wow that’s a long time with only that many Mah. That was with the Bob57 drone?

@@lenny5744 yes exactly. The nazgul Evoque 6 incher I had before, had similar flight times, so I guess those times are roughly what you get with 6S batteries on 6inch quads.

thanks! not sure about the name, but I believe it was very close to Brione in Valle Verzasca.

thanks! wasn't super far, around 2km if I remember correctly. But due to the weather, reception was at it's limit and I started dropping signal at the top when turning around.

actually, I lost the Evoque in the mountains. They are both great drones, but I think the tuning of the BOB57 is superior. With the Evoque I had some vibrations when flying small punchy battery packs, which is no issue at all with the BOB. That wasn't using the same props though, so that certainly plays a role as well. Anyway, that's why I would go with the BOB57 again if I was buying new.

@@peakperspectives_ch Thank you for the info. Also was that Evoque f6 v2? Do you get props in the shot with bob57 if using o3?

@@AmisCorolla pretty sure I had the v1. I think both drones are built to film with the gopro. But I don't think you would get visible props in the shot. I don't have the O3 version though.

yes we did, certainly some of the most epic spots we've been to yet!

actually preferred it this way, makes you get a better sense of the speed. especially combined with a low shutter speed / high motion blur, which again pairs very badly with stabilization and lots of shakes (leads to a stable but blurry image).

@@peakperspectives_chalright. I think I might prefer it too. I am trying to decide between a go pro hero 4 black or a hero 7 black. The 4 supports 4K 30fps but nog stabilization. Do you have any advise ?

@@beatsmarttie5777 great, 4k 30fps should be enough. I often recorded even with 24fps. In any case you would want to get ND filters to get your shutter speed down on brighter days. Ideally to 1/48th or 1/60th respectively.

oh and that's assuming you're able to headmount the gopro. If you wanted to chest mount or anything else you would want to go for the 7 with stabilization. the head sort of acts as a weak gimbal stabilizes your gopro naturally to some extent.

thanks man! yess it's the vista version. I think I only ever flew out 2km or so with that drone, but I have since upgraded to directional antennas on the goggles as that was the weakest link. now its mostly a matter of whether there are any obstacles obstructing my line of sight or not. 2200 lipo sounds like a great match for 6inch. but yeah for a few more minutes, 4000liion is great :)

@@peakperspectives_ch i got 3km range on my F6D with O3 air unit and goggles 2 with fcc hack and hight interference filed

Danke vielmals! :D

Hi Artem, both great drones, but I would go with the BOB57. It's got the better tuning if you follow the few instructions from Ellis on youtube. This can be felt in general by how smooth it flies, but most importantly for me by the fact that I got some vibrations when using lighter batteries (1550mah) on the F6D which made GoPro footage unusable. Whereas the BOB always flies super smooth regardless of takeoff weight (within limits ofc).

Hi Ernesto, das hört sich ganz danach an als hätten wir ein ähnliches Einsatzgebiet. Ich würde dir definitiv zur 6-inch (BOB57) raten. Hauptgrund: Für long-range Flying brauchst du ein 4000mah Liion Pack. Und dieses ist mit 430g etwas schwer zusammen mit fullsize GoPro auf einem 5-incher. Zudem wahrscheinlich besseres Flugverhalten dank X-Frame statt Deadcat, und auch ein wenig windstabiler dank der Grösse, was auch von Vorteil ist in den Bergen. Gewichtsunterschied (ca. 70g nach meiner Rechnung) ist in meinen Augen nicht von relevanter Grösse, da die Batterien, GoPro, Remotecontrol und Goggles den Grossteil ausmachen werden (Total Gewicht wohl 1.5kg aufwärts, je nach Anzahl Batterypacks). Formfaktor ist vielleicht beim 5-incher ein Vorteil, falls du bereit bist die Props jeweils zu entfernen für den Transport (sollte dann wahrscheinlich etwas besser in den üblichen Rucksack gehen - was jedoch mit dem 6er auch machbar sein sollte). Ich persönliche bevorzuge es die Drohne ohnehin aussen am Rucksack zu befestigen, so kann ich sie flugbereit (bis auf den Akku) transportieren und muss mir nicht jedesmal aufs Neue grosse Sorgen machen ob ich die Props jetzt korrekt angeschraubt habe (kann man sowohl zu wenig als auch zu fest, sodass sie zerspringen beim Beschleunigen). Darum lass ich die immer dran, und somit hätte eine 5-incher für mich auch vom Formfaktor her keinen Vorteil, denn mit Props dran passt die genauso wenig in den Rucksack rein. Hoffe das Hilft :)

Thanks, that was on the GoPro 10 Black

@@peakperspectives_ch thanks, have you tried os3 already?

@@mountains-to-the-sea unfortunately no I haven't. Personally I'll stick to GoPros due to better image quality, but it's nice to see that the O3 does record gyro data as well for stabilization. And quality is still good enough for most I guess.

@@peakperspectives_ch would it be possible to get in contact with you? also thinking about buying a bob...

@@mountains-to-the-sea sure, you could send me a dm on Instagram: matthiasmeier_io

thanks! yes exactly, filmed without stabilization and added in post with reelsteady

haha thanks, yeah that was our dog :)

thanks man! the f6d flies great as well though. but yeah if you didn't have a 6 incher yet, this one is the way to go 👌

haha funny that you ask, I'm now actually flying the BOB57 and I'm loving it. Similiar to the F6D in many ways, but what I think makes the big difference is all the love Ellis put into finding a perfect tune. With the F6D I couldn't fly 1550mah batteries as the video footage always got really shaky due to micro vibrations. 4000mah worked fine though. But now the BOB57 does an amazing job with either battery and I wouldn't want to go back. So, if you're looking for a smooth cruiser for some mountain surfing and occasional freestyle maneuvers, then I'd definitely recommend the BOB57. If you can see yourself mostly freestyling and long range flying not being a priority, then I'd rather get the F5D although the non-deadcat would probably be even better, with the possible disadvantage of props in the camera view. Hope that helps :)

Thanks man! If you mount the gopro upside down it should be possible to get the right angle, did you try that?

@@peakperspectives_ch Nope, actually never ever heard of it lol.. angle seems quite fine tho, is it just upside down ? I'll definetely try that and so you just correct it while editing right ?

@@peakperspectives_ch btw, can you advice me anything regarding the export settings ? im a bit confused with premiere pro tbh, having some trouble with outcome results. it seems like quality decreasing...

@@goodridingchannel yeah the thing is with normal upright orientation the helmet is usually limiting the angle, but that depends on your riding position and helmet I guess. The more recent gopros certainly fix the orientation automatically if you start recording *after* you mounted it upside down. but should be easy enough to fix in post if one of your videos is on its head :)

@@goodridingchannel regarding exports: if you intend to upload to yt just ensure high mbps targets. 4K: 70mbps or more 1080p: 25mbps or more something like that should provide good results.

definitiv, pops und crackles bis zum abwinken :P

haha what a nightmare. I had props come loose twice, leading to crashes, which made my kinda concerned to fly over water. but all went well this time 😁

@@peakperspectives_ch I got to habit to push on props holding motor make sure still really tight.

@@divingfalconfpv4602 right, that's what I started doing as well after my first incidence! but still happened again, so I'm thinking maybe it's the plastic used in the props, that the nuts don't get a good grip on. idk. But I'll get rid of those Ethix K2 Bubble Gums, even though I liked them...

@@peakperspectives_ch I've been using hq 6x2.5x3 .. I also ordered hq 6x3x3 & 6x3.5x3 but haven't tested yet