yes, this was using LiIon! up to 15min in such temps, more normal temperatures (20 C+) provide up to 18min flight time. see video description Max range depends a lot on the environment. anywhere from 1-4km or so

​@@peakperspectives_ch​nice Sorry i did not see the description What do you think can i chase freeride ski and snowboard? I want to film my friends riding offpiste this winter. Also i wonder with the the Lion bateries cab you do some freestyle do you have the power to make a powerloop or other tricks?

@@dimitarnaydenov90 Great question, you can definitely not do powerloops or freestyling with LiIon batteries, you need to insure you're not drawing too much power, to not overheat and/or damage the battery. Also punching out of difficult situations is not an option. So I would really only use LiIons for long range relaxed cruising, even dives can be on the very limit, since you may not have enough power to pull up enough. So for chasing and freestyling I would strongly recommend a LiPo pack, despite the generally much shorter flight times. but maybe you could get away with a 3000mah pack or something on a 6incher. :)

@peakperspectives_ch Thank you very much for your reply. You spared me a lot of time researching. Really appreciate it 🙏 Do you have lipo batteries for the bob 57? If yes, what mAh are they and what is the max flight time?

@@dimitarnaydenov90 you're welcome! I do fly mostly 1550mah and 1900mah, which last for about 7 and 8min respectively. Subtract roughly 2min for cold temps. I think 2000mah+ batteries should still feel punchy enough in terms of weight, if you want longer flight times. But also 7min are usually enough for my usecases, to get a 2-3 good runs of a scneario.

Thanks Alex! Fair enough, I personally liked the wide aspect ratio for this location to emphasize the vastness of the mountain range. Particularly when watching on a large TV screen.

if you want to do proper long range, you'd need a 4000mah liion pack (for up do 18min flight times), and I don't think there's any way a 5incher could reasonably fly that. For anything else, including the shots in this video, you can use normal LiPos and a 5, 6 or 7 incher. So the BOB57 trades a bit of agility for versatility which for me is great and I've never felt like I needed a 5 incher on top, but I'm also not into freestyle flying. If anything I may get into super long range missions at some point, for which I would prefer a 7inch quad with dual antennas. Hope that helps :)

@@peakperspectives_ch helps a lot. Thank you very much. So are you flying the BOB with a 4000mah Liion pack aswell? Is that possible? I think it will be the right drone for me aswell :)

@@max_loew yes definitely, and I occasionally do, when I just want to do some relaxed cruising. I've uploaded a few videos as well where I was using it. Comes with the downside that you have to keep an eye on your maximum power draw to not damage the Liion pack. But it has the best flight time to weight ratio making it a must have for long range and portability when hiking.

@@peakperspectives_ch thanks very much for the support - sounds like my new drone this year

Thanks! the battery does feel quite heavy when flying and I would only recommend it for when you need the range. What can also be fun is that you get more momentum with the added weight, which gives the flight a relaxed flow. But it certainly doesn't feel responsive, when you're used to lipos.

Hey man, thanks for the kind words! glad you enjoyed the videos and found them helpful in making your mind up. You won't be disappointed, the BOB57 is such a versatile drone :)

@@peakperspectives_ch One question: do you recommend any particular fpv simulator? I've already done some research (unchrashed, tryp, etc.) but I'm wondering if you might be able to advise which one would be best to practice on before buying a BOB57? TBS tango 2 Pro radio already ordered :) I've only used Mini 3 Pro so far and know it's a total different world, so need to practice 😅

@@AroundtheShots can't really go wrong with any of the modern sims imo. Personally I quite like Tryp with the dynamic scenarios and nice environmens, but DRL or Uncrashed are good too. Most importantly, train on the actual Tango controller, not some normal game controller (where the left stick auto centers), otherwise you'll build some bad habits quickly. In that sense - hope it arrives soon haha

thanks! haha not exactly sure what it was, but probably around 3km

Thanks Lenny! in pleasant 20 degrees celsius weather, rough flight times are: 1550mah lipo - 8min 1800mah lipo - 10min 30sec 4000mah liion - 18 min In a cold climate such as this one, you'll have to deduct at least 30% of the time.

@@peakperspectives_ch wow that’s a long time with only that many Mah. That was with the Bob57 drone?

@@lenny5744 yes exactly. The nazgul Evoque 6 incher I had before, had similar flight times, so I guess those times are roughly what you get with 6S batteries on 6inch quads.

thanks! not sure about the name, but I believe it was very close to Brione in Valle Verzasca.

thanks! wasn't super far, around 2km if I remember correctly. But due to the weather, reception was at it's limit and I started dropping signal at the top when turning around.

actually, I lost the Evoque in the mountains. They are both great drones, but I think the tuning of the BOB57 is superior. With the Evoque I had some vibrations when flying small punchy battery packs, which is no issue at all with the BOB. That wasn't using the same props though, so that certainly plays a role as well. Anyway, that's why I would go with the BOB57 again if I was buying new.

@@peakperspectives_ch Thank you for the info. Also was that Evoque f6 v2? Do you get props in the shot with bob57 if using o3?

@@BloodHoundDiesel pretty sure I had the v1. I think both drones are built to film with the gopro. But I don't think you would get visible props in the shot. I don't have the O3 version though.

yes we did, certainly some of the most epic spots we've been to yet!

actually preferred it this way, makes you get a better sense of the speed. especially combined with a low shutter speed / high motion blur, which again pairs very badly with stabilization and lots of shakes (leads to a stable but blurry image).

@@peakperspectives_chalright. I think I might prefer it too. I am trying to decide between a go pro hero 4 black or a hero 7 black. The 4 supports 4K 30fps but nog stabilization. Do you have any advise ?

@@beatsmarttie5777 great, 4k 30fps should be enough. I often recorded even with 24fps. In any case you would want to get ND filters to get your shutter speed down on brighter days. Ideally to 1/48th or 1/60th respectively.

oh and that's assuming you're able to headmount the gopro. If you wanted to chest mount or anything else you would want to go for the 7 with stabilization. the head sort of acts as a weak gimbal stabilizes your gopro naturally to some extent.

thanks man! yess it's the vista version. I think I only ever flew out 2km or so with that drone, but I have since upgraded to directional antennas on the goggles as that was the weakest link. now its mostly a matter of whether there are any obstacles obstructing my line of sight or not. 2200 lipo sounds like a great match for 6inch. but yeah for a few more minutes, 4000liion is great :)

@@peakperspectives_ch i got 3km range on my F6D with O3 air unit and goggles 2 with fcc hack and hight interference filed

Danke vielmals! :D

Hi Artem, both great drones, but I would go with the BOB57. It's got the better tuning if you follow the few instructions from Ellis on youtube. This can be felt in general by how smooth it flies, but most importantly for me by the fact that I got some vibrations when using lighter batteries (1550mah) on the F6D which made GoPro footage unusable. Whereas the BOB always flies super smooth regardless of takeoff weight (within limits ofc).

Hi Ernesto, das hört sich ganz danach an als hätten wir ein ähnliches Einsatzgebiet. Ich würde dir definitiv zur 6-inch (BOB57) raten. Hauptgrund: Für long-range Flying brauchst du ein 4000mah Liion Pack. Und dieses ist mit 430g etwas schwer zusammen mit fullsize GoPro auf einem 5-incher. Zudem wahrscheinlich besseres Flugverhalten dank X-Frame statt Deadcat, und auch ein wenig windstabiler dank der Grösse, was auch von Vorteil ist in den Bergen. Gewichtsunterschied (ca. 70g nach meiner Rechnung) ist in meinen Augen nicht von relevanter Grösse, da die Batterien, GoPro, Remotecontrol und Goggles den Grossteil ausmachen werden (Total Gewicht wohl 1.5kg aufwärts, je nach Anzahl Batterypacks). Formfaktor ist vielleicht beim 5-incher ein Vorteil, falls du bereit bist die Props jeweils zu entfernen für den Transport (sollte dann wahrscheinlich etwas besser in den üblichen Rucksack gehen - was jedoch mit dem 6er auch machbar sein sollte). Ich persönliche bevorzuge es die Drohne ohnehin aussen am Rucksack zu befestigen, so kann ich sie flugbereit (bis auf den Akku) transportieren und muss mir nicht jedesmal aufs Neue grosse Sorgen machen ob ich die Props jetzt korrekt angeschraubt habe (kann man sowohl zu wenig als auch zu fest, sodass sie zerspringen beim Beschleunigen). Darum lass ich die immer dran, und somit hätte eine 5-incher für mich auch vom Formfaktor her keinen Vorteil, denn mit Props dran passt die genauso wenig in den Rucksack rein. Hoffe das Hilft :)

Thanks, that was on the GoPro 10 Black

@@peakperspectives_ch thanks, have you tried os3 already?

@@mountains-to-the-sea unfortunately no I haven't. Personally I'll stick to GoPros due to better image quality, but it's nice to see that the O3 does record gyro data as well for stabilization. And quality is still good enough for most I guess.

@@peakperspectives_ch would it be possible to get in contact with you? also thinking about buying a bob...

@@mountains-to-the-sea sure, you could send me a dm on Instagram: matthiasmeier_io