Thank you. I wish I had something better to report. Hey, you're having quite the adventure out there in Thailand though! I should have spent all this money on trips out there!

Truck it up to DC from Miami? It’s over 11’ wide, that means permits for every state it passes through, it would be a very expensive move. After the insane delivery costs, I was over it.

Oh, I was ready to lose ~20K or so a year on it. But 95K in my first year? Ooof. (HopYacht removed the 5K shipping subsidy when I said I wanted to sell it, they said it was a loan and wanted their money back at sale. I'll talk about it in my final video on the subject) 13 people?!?!? I suppose it isn't rated for coastal cruising, tri toon won't take a 5' wave on the beam, while under sail. But still, horrible constraints for a sailboat.

@@ZeroFun just comparing capacity. If three 24 inch x24 long tubes can carry 13 people, gear and a 300 hp outboard then a 6 ft wide by 30ft long hull should be able to hold more than 4 people.

Event bottom paint in brackish water lasts nearly as long for me. But I’m not one to care if I’m slowed down a bit by some growth. This new paint twice a year means there’s some serious problems with how they treated the bottom, even sitting in salt water, this ain’t right.

@@ZeroFun I probably a primer issue. If they even primed it. That whole boat was a shitshow. That company should be ashamed of themselves. Taking advantage of a guy trying to make memories with his family is just plain wrong. They don’t seem to realize the power of social media. Tell your story my friend.

They for sure skipped a step or two on the bottom prep! Broker was shocked they didn't apologize and fix the paint 100% under warranty, it's a horrible look for the company. They knew I was going to made videos of us sailing it...instead they got this.

I feel sorry for current owners. At least most of them got a good discounts, even if they got screwed over by the company in other ways :( I'm glad I could help some people dodge the bullet going forward though.

So, the only thing in writing that I think I could sue over, is the bottom paint. They should have fully repaired that, but then we'd have to get experts to do reports, set a court date, hop they pay the 10 grand in lawyers fees, plus 2 or 3 extra for the bottom paint job. It would be a stressful year or two during that, while trying to sell the boat. I've sued manufactures before, it's a nightmare. :( Going from 1 month ahead of expected delivery, to 3 or 4 delayed, the contract says it's okay, as long as they notify me each month. They didn't put much in writing, everything was over WhatsApp calls, I don't think they made the appropriate notifications per the contract, but it would still be difficult to prove. Shipping costs weren't in the contract, they just said verbally it's 4-8K for shipping, closer to 4K if we can wait a week or two for a cheaper delivery window, and if we weren't in a busy seasons. Few hundred or import dues, 1K or so for assembly. Hell, 5K discount on the 29K shipping costs, they said was a loan, after the call where they said it was a discount to thank me for helping them with the battery and everything. Nothing in writing on that either. I hope the new owner sails the crap out of it fast, before the full warranty expires. Need to find all the little things that suck on it that they need to fix, since it's only got 3 months or so left on the warranty. I'm sure there's going to be a LOT of other issues.

@@ZeroFun Was thinking of one more thing too that you mentioned and that was the automatic bilge pumps. It would be a simple matter to install float switched right next to your electric bilge that if you started to flood and lifted the float it would both start the pump, and sound a buzzer or something. Just an idea if you ran into this situation again.

I don't have any electric bilge pumps. :D They only included manual ones in each bilge. Pumps with float switches are being installed by the new owner, I had to give him a big chunk of change. Just had to get rid of it, couldn't take this stress anymore. I'll do one more, finally video, explaining how everything ended, in my second year of ownership.

I think I have this figured out. They have crash bulkheads in the front of each hull. If it runs into anything, water won't sink the hulls. The motors each have their own wells, so even if those leak or fall off, it won't sink the boat, just fill up the well. You can actually replace them without pulling the boat out of the water. BUT, the keel bolts are in the middle of the hull. So if you're like, I think it was hull 002, and a keel or keels fall off, water comes in and you're manually pumping while trying to get back to the marina. Also, they were designed without AC, but when they tried to sell in Florida, they had major pushback and had to add AC. That put more holes in the boat, once again, in an area with no automatic bilge. So, I think they thought they were designing an unsinkable ship, and there was no need for pumps. (forgetting that leaking hatches happen, apparently mine had a broken strut and other issues)

I’ve had to sue manufactures before. Many many months of stress and expenses. Sharing my story is the best thing I can do for everyone. Paint what you think is the big thing, or something else?

hahha. She doesn't know how much I've lost. I haven't finished up my math, still waiting on one or two more checks to see the total. Hoping it isn't over six figures, but it will be close. That will be in my final video on it most likely. I should have just gotten an old Hunter 290. hah

Yup, all the videos on the HopYachts are non-owners talking it up. No owners sharing their experiences, or anyone actually sailing one and giving an objective review of its positives and negatives. I don't think there's actually any videos of one being sailed, outside of company released footage... It's tough, because I'm sure this doesn't help the few current owners that are struggling with one. But yeah, some of us assumed basic safety measures were in place and didn't notice the fine print. Hopefully it helps potential future owners know what they're getting themselves into.

Sad that it ended up like this. But it’s been a long stressful road to this point. Hopefully they can turn things around.

Do you mean the terminals where the panels go into the controller?

I’m posting all of this after it’s sold. Was documenting along the way, but had to not post because it would scare off buyers. Surveyor the buyer hired found all this, I’ve never set foot on the boat. I’m 1,000 miles away. Potential buyer, surveyor and brokers are the ones that know more than me. I get fed info from them. They disclose everything to the potential buyer. Yeah, I had the same thoughts. Insurance won’t total it. Builder needs to fix stray electrical issues, if the boat is eating itself. Factory responds in the next video, but only to items the buyer wants fixed. I lost a freak’in pile on this boat.

This isn’t a 12v battery switch. It’s for the high voltage bank. Ablative paint falls off after six months and needs repainted? I was told it would be good for years. This thing need hauled out and repainted every 6 months.

@@ZeroFun Those look a whole lot like a regular old stock 12 volt battery which are rated for 36 or 48 volts max and something like 300 amps. There should be a primer\barrier coat applied first so the anti-fouling paint has something to stick to so it doesn't fall off so easy, At my marina we get 1-2 years out of almost every $200-$250 gal can of ablative paint we have tried.

They’re Balancell 48V packs. Two of them, each 300 amps at 48V. Several hundred pounds each. They didn’t spring for the ePropulsion marine rated packs, but went with a local South African manufactured industrial vehicle packs to save money, then tried to make it withstand the corrosion of the sea. That caused a lot of problems for earlier owners. (They corroded still and lost all power) Ah, gotcha. Man, I mostly operate in brackish water and my paint lasts years. I wish this paint lasted a year, 6 months in the water with professional cleaners the company recommended and it’s wrecked. Like you said, seems like they skipped a coating under it. :(

​@@ZeroFunI understand and feel for you, Good luck with it all, your tuber name is fitting at this moment.

@henrye718 it was about Zero electric motorcycles. But yes. Great point. Hah. Thank you!

Props may be turning to dust from stay current. Surveyor couldn't say for sure. Was super sketched out though. Yeah, if it didn't sell, I was going to have to buy lumber and build a box to hold the batteries down. Can't risk a big wave, or repeated vibrations shifting them and something getting damaged.

Model Y was released. People started flipping them for +20 or 30K, because supply couldn’t meet demand. Scalers ordered them and caused regular consumers MONTHS of delays if they wanted one. Imagine you had one arriving next week and decided you didn’t want it. Your “used car” isn’t going down in value, because there’s massive demand and supply can’t meet it. Taking 9 months to build and ship, I thought there was enough demand, per the company, that it would sell quickly and I’d break even, since someone would get a boat new off the boat, 8K cheaper than ordering one, and 9 months faster. The demand was a lie, so everything fell apart. Yes, as it sad, it was apparently to buyers, there was no demand. The real value of a HopYacht after broker costs is nearly 100K under their new price that includes shipping. Survey results come out in a video this Friday. Potential buyer didn’t get scared off, but broker and surveyor had serious concerns.

I’d say you’re pretty accurate in your calculations. Here in Michigan a 12 yr old boat is like buying a 2 yr old car. Freshwater and a short season. I bought my first boat new. I’ve had five since all used and have not lost money. Aside from fuel, dockage etc. I always buy from an experienced, older boater who takes care of his stuff.

Sounds good. Don't forget to subscribe to see how bad the survey results are, and the factories insane replies.

Thank you for the kind and encouraging words. Have a great day!

@@ZeroFun Live and learn. If you didn't want criticism you shouldn't have posted it on the internet.

@danthemansmail criticism is one thing. Insults are something else. But interacting in the comments makes KZbin share the video more, and helps me earn money. So thank you again!

@ So views are more important than your dignity. Got it.

@danthemansmail that’s an incorrect assumption. I have no dignity. Warning people so they don’t make the same mistake, and making a few bucks back back is a win-win for everyone. Thank you again for the interactions! It really helps!

So, it was deigned by a well known, established designer. Dutiut, they've done many successful cats. It was then built by a yard that mostly does commercial cats, fishing and ferries, I believe catamaran ferries. I really hoped all that professionalism would filter down. Yup, good call. Wait for the owners group to be full of people successfully sailing them. There's ZERO posts now about them actually being used, besides the stuff posted by the company.

You’re quite welcome. I’m glad I could help. Hopefully they deliver some without issues and we actually see pictures and videos of them being used happy. But as of now, I’d stay faaaar away!

Yup, it's a CE rating of C. Acceptable for coastal cruising. Mean to make little hops between islands, and anchor out in bays for weekends without the need for a generator. The solar is more than enough to run the super efficient AC all day, while charging the batteries a bit.

I don't think the fact it's electric actually plays into it. Any boat that's delivered months late, for tens of thousands of dollars more than promised, with low quality, is going to be painful. History is fully of shotty boat manufactures that have gone under because of how they treat customers and how bad their boats are.

Yeah, always reach out to customers before buying a new product. I didn't do my due diligence, and I paid big time. Hoping I can help future potential buyers.

We met in person. I did a great interview with them on this channel. They were so enthusiastic and authentic… They said 4-8K for shipping and 1K for assembly. Closer to 4K since there was flexibility on when it went out. I suspect the problem was, no one wants the liability of assembling an electric catamaran from two cargo containers. Hence the only quote they could find for assembly was 20K, and I couldn’t even get a place that dealt entirely with electric boats to assemble it. It’s 300K base now, but includes what I assume is shipment fully assembled and a cleaning at the destination. Or maybe not cleaned, buyer gets to do that to save them money. Lol

I’m pretty sure he gave tours to dozens. He sold “a few” according to the broker he hooked up with to actually sell my boat. People don’t like buying large purchases without seeing a copy first - that’s from Hopyacht. Glad I could help…lol Yeah, the broker felt bad for the new owner. But they did get 10K cash to fix it up and make changes. Still, there seems like there’s deeply rooted flaws that won’t fix. They’re fighting tooth and nail to not put auto bilge pumps in, I don’t get what that’s the hill to die on for them. Professionals said they tried to tell them to do it. So weird.

I made $3 this last week. 576 more years, I'll earn back enough to make up for the first year of ownership losses. hahah. Hoping the long watch time from these new Hopyacht videos actually makes a few hundred bucks this year, plus, warns people of the reality of the product. Still doesn't feel real. Every offer, close day, person that's interested, etc. backs out, asks for an extension, lowers the price, etc. Waiting to wake up and hear "One more week and we should be closed!" again.

@@ZeroFun Dude you know there's NO money in KZbin these days unless the gods smile upon you. I believe your subs in the EV community truly care and support you. They want to hear what you have to say, after all you're funny and tell a good story. Telling it is cathartic and a public service. Here's hoping the gods smile on you.

Looks like I could be looking at 2 or 3 dollars a day for the channel after this one. lol. Three more videos, if they're hits, could be making hundreds a month? Fingers crossed. I really need to sell out. Maybe HopYachts offers to cover the entire 5K shipping as initially promised, in return for the videos coming down. Looks like I've already saved one person from purchasing one, based on comments! I just wish I could have gone public earlier, but I can't afford to be stuck with this boat down there any longer than what's already happened.

I don't want to ruin too much of the ending, I still need to get the survey results, factory response, and final videos up. But, yeah, it's FINALLY over with, just doesn't feel over in my head, so used to bad things happening at the last minute every time. Couldn't share my story, while trying to sell the thing of course. :( I swear, the PTSD is real, it was more stressful than my deployments. Those had an end date. I survive them, things got better. This was open ended hell that continuously got worse, no solid end in sight.

@@ZeroFun Fair enough, I'll stay tuned for the conclusion of this one for sure. I'll thank you for your service on both counts... I was seriously considering one of these, but after a talk with Paul things just seemed a bit off, like they didn't know what they were doing. I saw exposed 48V battery terminals, a big no-no ever for 12V, nevermind a voltage that could kill you. The lack of electric bilge pumps is insane though, that I did NOT know about. The last thing you need on a boat with a crew of 4 is someone stuck on pumping duty for two hulls.

YES! The battery is a mess. I'll give some stuff away - they have it held in place with ratchet straps. Exposed 48v was a finding on the survey also - there was no backing on the battery switch for the high voltage selection box. Like, something metal falls in there, and it's welding things and starting a fire. The lack of 12v battery for accessories is an insane cost cutting measure I didn't know about when I purchased also. DC-DC converter to charge a small 12v lithium battery would have been the way to go. But no, DC-DC powers everything 12v, I think there's a dedicated battery for the windless? Maybe the toilet. Things the DC-DC converter doesn't have enough juice for. But at that point...just have that 12v battery power everything?!? People losing their 48v source are SCREWED. Everything does out, but hey, at least they can take a shit? What boat did you see the exposed 48v on? Did you tour one of the HopYachts in FL? And your description is what I've come to also, they don't know what they're doing and are just trying to figure it out with a plucky attitude.

@@ZeroFun Yeah I saw the batteries in an even worse state, it was completely loose. I use a ratchet strap to secure my 30 pound lead acid starter battery for my genset, but for a battery weighing hundreds of pounds, that's wild. It was still in production, so I gave them the benefit of the doubt on that. Agree on the 12V battery to power the whole low voltage system. I would argue it almost is required. The one I saw had NO WINDLASS. Sure it's a 30' boat, but it was also 2023... Now they have 48V windlasses, so I assume they just use that. Without a battery backup, if you lose a DC/DC converter then you're screwed. As you said, no nav lights, no chartplotter, no radar, and no way to charge your devices you may use as a backup. That's terrifying in the wrong conditions and a downright pain in the ass in good ones. I think it was hull 3 or 4, it was in their factory in SA, via a WhatsApp call, even over the low res video I saw things that made me cringe. I do admire the plucky entrepreneur spirit, but not as much the providing inaccurate information that could easily get someone in deep financial trouble, or even killed. That seems more like "managing the truth".

Bro, this was me selling one…lol

That's what this channel is all about, horrible purchases where I lose piles of cash. Reminds me of classic Zero Fun videos where my bikes (not Energicas) were in the shop for months and I had to get lawyers involved!

Hey guys, not to change the topic, BUT ... changing the topic. Both of you are pretty up on Zeros, so here's my question. What's the deal on replacing a simple bad bearing on a Zero drive motor? Been watching Marc Travels and haven't seen any good info from the community in the comments. I've tried Googling, KZbin & forums and found nothing. I totally get Zero's position, full motor only, which is TYPICAL of manufacturers. I'm surprised with the amount of bikes out there this hasn't come up frequently, so what's your takes?

I'll let Sam take this once, since I have a gag order from a certain company. Sam may have a guy or two on the inside at Zero/in Eastern Europe that designed their components...

@@RPRosen-ki2fk it's not an easy job and Zero probably won't even tell Marc what bearing part numbers to buy. They don't want anyone working on their own bikes because if the rider crashes, they could be held liable. There's a video of someone changing their bearings on an FX motor from a long time ago, and it should be the same process. Someone would have to make a rig to hold the motor in and long bolts for the side of the cash to align to. Zero could fly someone over to do this for way less than a new motor costs. Also a new motor would require syncing with his controller, which could only be done at a service center.. which are all slowly not supporting Zeros anymore. It's a rough time out there!

@@NewZeroland Sam, the way I see it Zero isn't the issue here, they just want to make money selling parts, when I worked for Honda it was no different. I find it hard to believe, with all the ex Zero employees, engineers & brainiacs who own Zeros, no one has figured this out yet. If anything maybe the problem doesn't ever happen (then good on Zero) or nobody is putting any miles on their bikes (which I find hard to believe). I imagine there's a ton of Zeros out in this world racking up a tons of miles/km, we're not talking Lightnings or Verge TS's here. I would think there's a shop or two out there whose figured this stuff out. After taking a break and searching the web quite a bit harder, I found RobG on the AEVA forum and Travis Kimbrell on Zeromanual web site, who have both actually accomplished bearing replacements successfully. It just AMAZES me that there's no shops that have stepped there game up to this challenge.

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@@ZeroFun Want to fix?

I'm sure they dressed it up to look busy, had every employee and contractor they could find, come by, for the instagram photos. Unfortunately, I'm on the other side of the country now. I may be in that area in summer, I'll post updates then if possible.

Oh yeah. More than warm enough. I can’t remember if I mentioned it, but I ended up putting a request in on Angie’s list or one of those. Got some “Plummer” with a generic work van and no insurance installing it. He wasn’t horrible, besides plumbing the condensation to the overflow pan instead of the sump. Summer I noticed it had an inch of water under it. Hah. Hope you have better luck finding an installer!

@@ZeroFunthank you sir! Appreciate the video and your exp

As a lawyer once told me, “you can’t get blood from a stone”: She’s 16, her parents likely get paid under the table and they dropped all insurance because, “it was too expensive after all the accidents”. I love the system you have, but some people, you’d never recover your costs from. :(

@ZeroFun insurance company lawyers might not get blood, but they can grind stones to a very fine powder. Most people pay up in the end. But even if they don't, the insurance companies come out on top overall.

Third accident in the DC area in ten years. All uninsured motorists. One in actual DC, they didn't want to do a statement or fine or anything for the lady, she said I was at fault for not letting her in when she started entering my lane...

@@ZeroFun Wow..... and you had the right of way as she should have just waited for you to pass and merge...

Sure. What would you like to know about them?

@@ZeroFun I believe that Zero finally understand that it can't run an electric motorcycle company by having only large, heavy and expensive motorcycles for experience riders. Different parts of the world have different needs. Us of A riders see motorcycling as a hobby for the weekend but Europeans are everyday commuters when the weather is good. North Europeans like Italy Spain Greece etc have a good weather all year so they are using electric scooters. What i would like to know is if the minibike is good for new riders to learn, if its good for commuting and maybe for joyrides or small excursions outside the city.

How do I post a meme of Luke screaming that it can’t be true… Yeah, I’m holding out hope that they’re real. I’m sure they are. Production…next year now, right?

I need to find out what's the latest Richard. He was selling shares, trying to get enough money to pay the rent. Rumor was he could be getting kicked out of the attic he currently rents? But I'm way behind on rumors. Obviously :D EMF Is the Electric Motorcycle Forum, where all the niche EV Bike news drops first. I need to remember to check it. Bro. I've owned boats, they've been a bit expensive. But commissioning a new boat has been horrible. It was already at the extent of my budget...then it was delivered months late to where I can sail it up before hurricane season. Plus, delivery costs were ~5x higher than quoted, nearly 30K. It's sitting at an expensive slip in a hurricane prone area that requires expensive insurance, while it slowly falls apart. I've started the ball rolling to come out of early retirement. Won't get the opportunity to retire again for 10-15 years. :( Looking at an 80K loss on it, and it may not even sell. Haven't even set foot on it. So stressed.

@@ZeroFun I always say life is too short to be unhappy. Things have a tendency to work out in the end.

I don't know, having to find before and after school care again, go back to work, spend my vacation days for the next year or two bring the boat up little by little. Losing 80K and even more on making the boat seaworthy to make it up the ICW...if it doesn't sell next week, things are just going to get even worse. For the family. :(

I don’t believe they’ve developed a product. Have you seen a bike that can shape shift, tell you when someone is about to hit you, and has all the battery capacity and power they promised nearly a decade ago? I think we’ve seen a mule shape shift, while parked. Now do it at 80 while telling me I’m about to get side swiped and to flick the bike onto the shoulder quickly to avoid a crash. That’s what’s promised. While getting 200 miles of range, capable of 200MPH and 200HP. IPO was a clear money grab. Jay leaving before the massive bonus means he was forced out for some reason…

I suspect, it’s in the bag and will have a new owner in a few weeks. Can’t talk about it in detail enough for a video, but what I’ve heard through the grapevine sounds good.

Yees saved Energica ❤❤❤

Hey where's my news credit? LOL Dom does seem like a good guy but maybe too little too late. The Cali spot you went to was only suppose to be a research facility while Canada was in Covid lock down. I think Jay expected, lets say, very big financial support from the BC government for making an EV factory in Canada. That didn't happen. I don't know if there was ever any mention of that support or it was wishful thinking. That's when they started letting people go and stoped the Damon Lab forum for order holders. I feel like if the tax credit doesn't come back they all might die off. Zero is losing dealers left and right. Their new Surron clones may be their only hope as that market is doing pretty good.

You are now my electric motorcycle news source, all of this is new to me.

@@Magic_Toaster I almost didn't post, because they did put info out...it just didn't hit any social media that I follow. Glad I could inform some people.

I found out about the EMF post during my recording. hah. I heard a month or two ago he was going to get kicked out. Couldn't confirm it. Then heard it as a "rumor" again yesterday, decided to check his LinkedIn and thought I made a major discovery. lol

@ZeroFun I don't have follow any of the news about the companies on social media. So I appreciate you condensing it all for the uninformed people like me.

Yeah, it actively tried to kill me a few times a day going to work and back. Not it can do hundreds of miles on vacation with me only backing it in to charge. Incredible. I think next year could bring unsupervised FSD and nationwide approval for self driving cars.

Yeah, I was honking and motioning for her to pull over after. She literally was just going to take the turn to escape me. Couldn't believe her basically, wellll, I was pretty sure all of the plastic on the ground was from my car, not yours theory. Not how this works, we need to exchange information.

Best reason to exchange information and take pictures, etc. is because if you do NOT, then who knows what they will tell their insurance company about how you 'drifted into their lane' or such - 2 months later when you can't remember everything, your vehicle has no damage ("See, they got it fixed without telling their insurance company about it even." ) and maybe you don't even have the video anymore. ALWAYS stop, exchange information, NEVER admit fault (even if it is your fault - but don't try and blame them either if it is your fault), and don't tell them about the video!! Keep it safe somewhere and only give it to YOUR insurance company and/or police to prove it was not YOUR fault.

Every Tesla I’ve owned, has been side swiped by someone with no insurance soon after taking ownership. At least this one took it like a champ and exploded the offender. Lol

@ZeroFun why do you think that is? I just bought a tesla model s plaid and fear something like this

I have no idea. I live outside of DC. Lots of people here without paperwork, two of the people that hit me had no licenses. This lady did at least. Just where I am, lots of bad, uninsured motorists.

This is a real thing. People either think you'll just give way (when that's not even a possibility) because you're in a Tesla and afraid of repair costs or they actually deliberately target you because they just hate Teslas. But drivers in general are just getting worse and worse. The general state of society (anti-social trends), combined with all the tech "safety" features and vehicles that are MUCH more protective of occupants than even 20 years ago and make people both lazy and much less fearful of injury in a fender-bender. By the way, nobody becomes someone else when they get behind the wheel (or use alcohol or drugs). What comes out in those situations is the real person. Drugs and alcohol remove inhibitions. They can't put anything in your head that wasn't already there in some form. Being enclosed in a vehicle where other people can't get a good look at you gives a degree of anonymity that has the same effect of lowering inhibitions. Again, modern cars insulate people from their immediate environment much more than old cars that didn't even have air conditioning and were much noisier even with the windows up.

Yup! Model 3 I was blindly, and slowly lane changed into slowly at the front of many long traffic lines. Like you said, they knew I'd move so my insurance didn't go up, and they felt anonymous because they were so insulated from the world around them. So what if we all waited for minutes to get to the front, they are in more of a hurry, or we were all idiots for waiting. Zoom to that front and get in there, you deserve it! I told myself I'd string a bunch of old tires around my Cybertruck when I got it, and act like a tug boat pushing people back into their lanes when they tried to cut lines. Turns out, I didn't need the tires. hah This kid, if I had to bet a dollar, she was on her phone and thought she saw an opening in her peripheral, so she went for it. Her mom came over, she's pissed, daughter lied and said she thought I was letter her over, video shows...I have no idea what the video shows, she went ahead, then drifted back and into me with her blinker on, no way I was letting her merge, behind me I guess?