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@SimonSezSo
@SimonSezSo 4 күн бұрын
I don't see any arguments against False Color. I DO see arguments against using external monitors for exposure. Which I would agree with. That ain't what they're for. And you do have to match the camera settings for the Resolve FX. If you CAN'T match them, then of course they won't match.
@Bruno_fyi
@Bruno_fyi 24 күн бұрын
I use my Ipad as monitor and the APP Monitor+ has EL-Zones so I'm completely perplexed as to why this is not industry standard when an Ipad app has it. 😅
@raizanong
@raizanong 2 ай бұрын
i sense Breaking Bad references
@davidmultimedia2024
@davidmultimedia2024 2 ай бұрын
EL Zone is indeed amazing, but honestly, I find this whole False Color VS EL Zone debate to be a total non-sense. It does basically the same thing. Some will say that one reads ''voltage''... but it doesn't change anything to the fact that it simply gives a particular color based on the exposure of your pixels. There is absolutely no problem with False Color tools, as long as they're calibrated in stops/half stops increments and taylored to the dynamic range of the camera and its middle grey point. All it is is a LUT designed for a particular scale/dynamic range. You can very easily make your own False Color LUT perfectly taylored to the dynamic range of your particular camera sensor, choose the number of colors you want, and just add 0.5 stops increments for extra precision (especially around middle grey). You absolutely don't need a monitor with a built-in EL Zone tool to have False Color that shows all stops of your dynamic range (and half stops). For Lumix S cameras, Nick Driftwood made one and there is a free 17x version on his website. That's all i've been using to light up my whole scenes for over a year now, and it's just like EL Zone.. but I can load it on any camera and monitor with LUT function. Much more convenient.
@JonatanCastro
@JonatanCastro 3 ай бұрын
I actually don't get how this got trademarked in the first place but I just discovered that the Monitor+ app has it if you long-press on the False color icon
@Elusive47Ent
@Elusive47Ent 4 ай бұрын
thanks, insightful
@YamilSunRay
@YamilSunRay 4 ай бұрын
Cool thing with the EL Zones! I was always wondering about the false colors of my Blackmagic.. it seems like the range from red to purple is some kind of safe zone?! And one could still go a bit higher or lower with the exposer and still get information out of it. Because when I turn it off.. I sometimes see that nothing is clipping and that the information is there. Also when I put the footage into DaVinci. So I try get my middle greys close on point and the rest is for the edit. A thing that works if you a one man show.. but in a team.. I'm interested in the EL Zones.. could one make a LUT with the EL Zone?
@StifaniBrothers
@StifaniBrothers 5 ай бұрын
Thanks man
@nickdual
@nickdual 5 ай бұрын
I subscribed, you too
@haxaweddings
@haxaweddings 5 ай бұрын
You can use only 32GB on zoom h4n :)
@digitaldevigner4080
@digitaldevigner4080 5 ай бұрын
I have been saying this for years. The lame one size fits all method of false color on most monitors is seriously broken. Proper monitors like Flanders Scientific have the ability to customize the levels and colors used. While it may have been exciting to get false color the pathetic version we got wasn’t even really setup for log. Most were designed to work around rec709. It’s just not a very good or accurate tool. We needed either EL Zone or monitors to low is to customize what we use. I may even make the argument that sometimes customized may be better than EL Zone because we can set it up to cover the areas we want. Instead of looking at 12 stops of color maybe we only need to see 4 to 6 colors for the stops we care about. Alas companies outside of SmallHD and Flanders do not seem to want to give proper flexible false color support.
@StarLightDotPhotos
@StarLightDotPhotos 5 ай бұрын
Does Ninja Ultra count as an expensive monitor? I am looking at grabbing one for my R5.
@noisecrack
@noisecrack 5 ай бұрын
The Magic arm is the coolest, creative shot inducing, cost effective camera mount. Good video.
@JalaGames
@JalaGames 6 ай бұрын
At least for the fluid head balancing I'd suggest a Short Tie Down Handle, they're also great for HI Hats. I agree with the shaking, you'd need a higher end rig to reduce the shaking to make stabilization in post work, otherwise its a great mad max rig. I personally do not trust ball heads with that much weight as in my experience they tend to give out with anything over 5kgs, let alone with additional gravity forces being put onto them while the car is moving. I personally prefer more dedicated gear heads. For safety most higher end rigs have ratchet straps, which would work far better than some rope or bungie cord IMO. For creative purposes I'd say it works fine and is a pretty natural look to the images when side on and the car slower would match a melancholic mood. Thank you for the indepth review and your experience with this car mount. It's far better than the old one my uni had.
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the recommendations! I’d like to put together a more heavy duty rig at some point but this is what I got at the moment. I’ll start looking into gear heads.
@unerd
@unerd 6 ай бұрын
Does your camera have IBIS?
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 6 ай бұрын
My black magic doesn’t sadly. My lenses also don’t because I had to modify them to work with the adapter I put on the camera.
@allen_bernardo_jr
@allen_bernardo_jr 6 ай бұрын
Nice, I think also maybe cranking the shutter and then stabilizing in post (and maybe adding in some subtle motion blur) could also help with the shakes
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 6 ай бұрын
You’re right about the shutter. I didn’t realize until after I had gotten all the footage that I probably should have done that. As for stabilizing the footage, what program would you use? After effects? Premiere? Davinci?
@allen_bernardo_jr
@allen_bernardo_jr 5 ай бұрын
@@KevinTalksFilmmaking I used to use Final Cut but have moved over to Resolve and I think Resolve has some great stabilization built in. Final Cut’s wasn’t too bad either but Resolve’s might be better
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 6 ай бұрын
This Car Mount sadly isn't currently available. When it does return to amazon there will still be a link for the product in the description. Sorry for the inconvenience.
@icatchingink4128
@icatchingink4128 6 ай бұрын
Starting to invest more in my audio kit thanks for the informative info 👍
@tamasharangi9002
@tamasharangi9002 6 ай бұрын
The BMPCC 6K false color readout can be made to match the Resolve FC readout in two different ways. If you use the Camera Specific setting, as you're doing it in the video, the image in Resolve has to be in log and apparently under 800 iso, but you can also set the FC readout to "Creative" and then "Exposure Guide" and provide it a Rec 709 normalized image. This mode will match the FC readout on your camera, regardless of what camera you're using, because this mode reads the normalized values. The BM cameras internal false color always reads the log signal. Also, every Alexa before the Alexa 35 puts middle gray at 39 ire, only the Alexa 35 pushes it down -- the Blackmagic pocket cams are at 40 ire so extremely close to the original Alexa line.
@rodrigolev1
@rodrigolev1 6 ай бұрын
problem is that not al camera manufacturer have jumped in EL Zones. Blackmagic hasn't yet . Even thought I own a Smallhd Monitor Cine5 I am not able to use EL zone in the poclets
@AsteriskSarcasm
@AsteriskSarcasm 6 ай бұрын
Yes you are able to use it with the black magic- I have the same monitor and use it regularly- what you have to do is go into the settings of your monitor and set the color pipe to match that of your camera settings
@GlenReed
@GlenReed 3 ай бұрын
@@AsteriskSarcasm Does it work natively with Blackmagic or do you have to create a custom map for EL Zones? I just ordered the SmallHD Cine 7 and can't find a solid answer.
@allen_bernardo_jr
@allen_bernardo_jr 6 ай бұрын
I think different cameras clip at different IRE levels too (like the S5II clips at 93 or 95 or something supposedly) 😩 I don't really use false color anyway though I'm a noob that uses zebras 🤷🏻‍♂ lol Might be a dumb question but when you were comparing the footage false color in Resolve vs the pocket camera, when the Resolve's false color showed it "wasn't" clipping, was the footage itself actually clipped though where you couldn't recover the highlights/shadows? Because that'd be even worse if not only does the software show a different calibration but that it could be saying something isn't clipped when it really is 🤦🏻‍♂
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 6 ай бұрын
I believe the false color on Resolve is generally more accurate. The camera records ire values above 100 and under 0 but it won’t show you on the false color on the camera. That’s because it’s a live view instead of the recording itself . Resolve can actually view the full ire spectrum of the camera you recorded on so it can show you clipping a lot more accurately. (I assume) 🤷‍♂️
@kentreyes7379
@kentreyes7379 7 ай бұрын
Can you say "howdy partner" on your next video
@Reesemar_
@Reesemar_ 7 ай бұрын
Keep posting Kevin… you’re really going to help me upgrade the quality of my content!
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 7 ай бұрын
Will do!
@granth1332
@granth1332 7 ай бұрын
There's hella shotgun mics that are better solutions than either of these just saying
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 7 ай бұрын
I actually did get a shotgun mic to go with the zoom but I didn’t like the sound of it. What would you recommend?
@Respect2theFallen
@Respect2theFallen 5 ай бұрын
Ya buddy wheres those recommendations. People watched his video for info and you're claiming there's better without helping the viewers out smh.
@jdgg6801
@jdgg6801 2 ай бұрын
Hey Kevin, how are you? I’m working on a huge Halloween Michael Myers 2025 project. How do I record audio clips of Dr Loomis from the actual movies to make a music soundtrack. Placing Dr Loomis (speaking) clips in between each music soundtrack song from the movie?
@granth1332
@granth1332 2 ай бұрын
@@Respect2theFallen yo I'd say the Rode videomic NTG is good. Or the audio Technica at875r. Both solid and non expensive choices
@granth1332
@granth1332 2 ай бұрын
@@KevinTalksFilmmakingI'd reccomend the Rode videomic NTG or Audio Technica AT8075r or more expensive ones like senheisser MkE 600 or (very expensive) MKH 416
@berkano_plays
@berkano_plays 7 ай бұрын
Sigma has EL Zones built into their fp range with the latest firmware... But one annoying thing is that you have to hold the button to keep it showing...
@markshirley01
@markshirley01 7 ай бұрын
Hi do you have a link to the exact two products - Im going online but there is a confusing amount of variations - thanks for your help.
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 7 ай бұрын
Yes! I've updated the Description with affiliate links of the exact products I bought. Keep in mind (I should have mentioned this in the video) that the first time I got the arm it didn't come with the Camera platform so I had to send it back. Also, Be careful removing the tab around the knob of the arm. I've had the screw and other components fall out because I wasn't careful.
@oo0RECON0oo
@oo0RECON0oo 7 ай бұрын
Try setting the monitor to native as opposed to rec 709 etc.
@adamblair-smith3063
@adamblair-smith3063 7 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the reason for missmatched false color between davinci resolve and the camera is because the cameras false color is uncompressed and unprocessed... in other words its not reading from a recording, but instead a live view of the image. More specifically, differences in the false color then are probably because the detail was already "lost" during the recording and isnt going to be "lost" again. When something is clipped or crushed in digital imaging, the camera typically still knows the luminance(voltage) of the missing information. For instance, something that is being measured at -3 IRE by the camera will be discarded and become 0 IRE. Likewise, something 113 IRE will become 100 IRE. Also, the false color in davinci resolve is probably meant to tell colorists how their color grade is affecting the image, not nessesarily the detail gained/lost during recording, so it makes sense that it would get slightly different results. This is, to my understanding, how this works, although keep in mind I'm not a camera manufacturer or designer so these are simply my best guesses.
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this explanation! Them being meant for two different purposes makes sense but why am I able to enter in the camera I used? It seems obvious that the two would match after that. Maybe there's a post from blackmagic that explains the discrepancy but it would be nice if one didn't have to try so hard to find this information. An explainer video from blackmagic would help clear up a lot of the confusion.
@blanche027
@blanche027 7 ай бұрын
Ran into the same issue. Not sure why Blackmagic has not addressed the issue. Cinema camera 6k doesnt even show up in the false color selection.
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 7 ай бұрын
I noticed that as well. Seems odd considering it's one of their most popular cameras.
@timwhitingii
@timwhitingii 8 ай бұрын
I have been so frustrated with FC in camera not matching up in Resolve. I am hoping 19 updates it.
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 7 ай бұрын
That would be nice!
@why_though
@why_though 8 ай бұрын
What is the big deal about getting it spot on in camera? The cameras you use have LOADS of left over dynamic range to make the minor adjustment in post with imperceptible impact on quality. And as for clipping, just go and check with the eyedropper tool and read the values in the "clipped" areas to see what the camera/monitor are considering to be clipped, and you will see which one is wrong.
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 8 ай бұрын
It’s not really a “big” deal, it’s just that it’s annoying and tedious. The tools should be consistent and predictable. I understand that you can do a lot in post and that’s good for some but others are going to want to achieve something specific. Also, A lot of cinematographers will use their understanding of post production to get a shot. They aren’t just making it look good. Say you want to overexpose an image by 2 stops so you can get a cleaner image in post. You wouldn’t be able to do that with just false color. You can use the noise reduction features in davinci but you can only push that tool so far. As for using the eye dropper to figure out which is wrong, the problem is that neither one of them should be wrong. There should be a way to match the false colors.
@chrisratchford8153
@chrisratchford8153 9 ай бұрын
Life is definitely a lot easier with a tripod with a bowl head. I fought adjusting legs for too many years before buying a setup with a bowl. I have the Sachtler Ace XL Fluid head on an iFootage Wild Bull T5 tripod. It's been a pretty good setup for me. The 75mm bowl with a leveling bubble is almost a necessary luxury in my opinion. I'm not going back!
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 8 ай бұрын
Have you seen the aktiv8 head for the Sachtler Tripods? The latch looks much easier and faster to level compared to unscrewing from the bottom.
@chrisratchford8153
@chrisratchford8153 8 ай бұрын
Yes, that looks pretty cool. A lot more expensive than my Ace XL head but ease of use/speed can be the price if you shoot a lot. I don't shoot enough to even justify my current setup!
@AaronOverEverything
@AaronOverEverything 9 ай бұрын
good to see KZbin give smaller channels some exposure. good stuff. great video. I own many magic arms, but NEVER knew that Manfrotto had a longer heavy duty one! I'm about to snag one now!
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 9 ай бұрын
Glad to help!
@editandoavida_
@editandoavida_ 9 ай бұрын
Great video! (your video arrived in Brazil)
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 8 ай бұрын
So cool!
@jettreels
@jettreels 9 ай бұрын
Great vid! Thinking about getting one as my SmallRig ones are quite small.
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 9 ай бұрын
I actually got the smallrig one first. I realized that it wouldn't support my black magic so I got this one as well. Now I can use both!
@financial_age
@financial_age 8 ай бұрын
@@KevinTalksFilmmaking Which one do you prefer?
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 7 ай бұрын
@@financial_age I like them them both but I wouldn't use them for the same things. The smallrig one can help me set up small lights in tight spaces while the manfrotto is used for my camera or heavier lights. It just depends on how heavy the thing is that you're rigging up.
@Kyle-wb7wx
@Kyle-wb7wx 9 ай бұрын
Great shots! You can get some great shots with a GoPro as well.
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I might try to use a GoPro in the future.
@rodrigolev1
@rodrigolev1 9 ай бұрын
Kevin, use the cage an 2 manfrottos arms + clamp, its the way to go
@KevinTalksFilmmaking
@KevinTalksFilmmaking 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! If I use 2 camera platforms and screw both arms into the cage then that might be even more stable. The other method I mentioned in the video would use 3 clamps.