If I'd been trapped in a black hole for that long, I would have lost my indoor voice too.

I tell alot of NuWho fans this all of Time Lord lore proper lore that is all that information you get is from Classic Who you won't get it from NuWho.

Stephen Thorne also had a memorable turn as the voice of Treebeard in the BBC audio drama of Lord of the Rings, bellowing “harOOOoom” and similar

"But I'm old, tired, spent, busted, rusted, stuck in a moldy old office with just a moody woman for company."

Omega is an interesting creation, not an out-and-out villain but a rather tragic figure whose understandable bitterness has run out of control. His back story makes a great addition to Time Lord mythology, and his Ancient Greek-inspired mask is really effective, emphasising his tragic nature. Just a pity Stephen Thorne has to be QUITE SO SHOUTY, and that the sets for Omega’s lair look quite so cheap, though maybe that is an effect of antimatter…

Omega's over the top contrasts nicely with Troughton's underplaying his Doctor, whom of course is the only one with a plan. (spoilers)

'Dark Place'.. so underrated.

Nice touch to see the first Doctor on the Time Lords' screen in black and white.

Omega,Rassilon and the Other.

This is a fun one!

I know there are people who do not like multi-Doctor stories, but for me, they are bliss, and it kicked off here. Pertwee has a number of stories that I hold in high esteem on his own, but this is certainly one of my faves for his era.

G'day. Bessie was not a genuine antique - she was a kit-car! She was made by a company called Siva, and the model was "Edwardian Roadster". You would get yourself a Ford Prefect (or a couple of other Fords with the same chassis) and strip it down to the base, then build the Siva on top using mostly fibreglass parts. The WHO production team modified the original design in order to give it a bigger engine - if you search for pics of the Siva Roadster, you'll see it has a quite different looking front end vs Bessie. (I think the changes only happened after The Silurians?) I toyed with the idea of building my own Bessie about 20 years ago... but the problem is finding the parts. I managed to track down a guy from I think France who had the original molds... but being in Australia, it was not going to be a cheap enterprise. Maybe you two should look into it as a side project! Both Bessie and the later vehicle that I wont go into specifics for Thomas' sake were owned by Jon after he finished on WHO. Can't recall the story about whether Jon sold or just loaned the car/s to a fan to be restored... or where they ended up after he passed. It would be amazing to see Ncuti driving round in Bessie!

I do like the mental image I now have of Mr Blobby living in some kind of castle in Mordor called the Blobby Fortress

This feels so Doctor Who-ish it feels like a Marvel comic. I’m so glad the first time I saw this there was no internet or KZbin around to gleefully disseminate everything you needed to know about the programme, I just sat there in open-mouthed awe😁.

cant wait for the 15 doctors

Despite the presence of three Doctors this is a typical Bob Baker/Dave Martin story in many ways, in that it is full of big ideas and concepts that the production struggles to realise effectively, the Gell Guards and the tinsel monster being prime examples. Fun to see the Brig reunited with the second Doctor, though, and I like Benton having a big role, even if it was only because Frazer Hines was too busy with Emmerdale Farm to return as Jamie. Given they are played by the same actor, Clyde Pollitt, it seems reasonable to assume this Time Lord is the same character as the judge in The War Games. One of the other judges was played by Trevor Martin, who got to play the Doctor on stage a few years later.

Frazer Hines was supposed to be in this story but had just joined the cast of the soap Emmerdale Farm.

Clyde Pollitt was indeed the returning Time Lord. It's nice to think he's the same one. Just as it is to imagine the main timelord of The War Games is the same as Goth from Deadly Assassin.

Imagine clearing the printer of a circular paper jam

Great video

The inevitable ‘jumps’ due to editing it created director Paul Bernard-esque anomalies like that at the end of Frontier In Space where Roger Delgado just disappears with no explanation after shooting the Doctor (Planet Of The Daleks director David Maloney having to set up a small corner of the Master’s HQ with the Police Box on the Ogron planet and the TARDIS interior to show Jo helping the injured Doctor into the TARDIS - this was then tacked on at the end of Frontier In Space - Delgado wasn’t available and may have even passed away by that point).

I really enjoyed it. The first time I watched it was when on the night it aired on BBC4 and I was rather tired after a working day, so I wasn't very observant. My reaction was generally positive, but when I saw reactions and reviews to it, and comments on social media, they were mostly pretty negative, especially about the new music, which surprised me. So I watched it a second time, this time quite attentive, expecting that I would now see more flaws. In fact, it looks like I was entirely right in thinking that the music was done well and was in keeping with the video content, and my opinion of the whole thing has only improved. Though I didn't notice on either viewing the regeneration sound to suggest the War Chief was regenerating. Apparently, all the added content at the end was from a fan-made KZbin video, which has been around for quite a while. I wasn't aware of that on first viewing. I was quite critical of the computer generated animated Third Doctor, which I felt, and still feel, to be unnecessary and jarring, not fitting the rest of the content. But that is a minor thing.

There are colour photos of the sets so they had decent references.

The colour is more successful for The War Games as the quality of telerecordings is better than The Daleks. The music is based on Dudley Simpson's original compositions but Mark Ayres has recreated them with samples to work to the new length. Cutting it down didn't work though as there was too much plotting - you miss why anyone does anything. Writer and script editor Terrance Dicks flatly refuted the idea that the War Chief was The Master.

Star Trek: TOS had CGI stuff added for rerelease.

9 minutes per ep. GO! This is a hard pass for me. This isn't even a retcon, it is f@ckery = bad fan fiction.

The problem being at Ten Parts this story rattles along and being shortened really doesn't do it any favours, especially when part of the run time includes the regeneration and AI generated shots of the aliens lair which are used repeatedly. It's a thumbs up for this edition of The Shallow Proclamation, but a thumbs down for this rendition of a classic story.

RE Continuity - I studied film & TV in the early 2000's, and was involved with editing all of the short films that I worked on through that period - 5 or 6 shorts. Going through that process, you become more aware when watching media when something didn't quite work, because you KNOW how it's done. But, sitting watching content with my wife - most of those errors just fly by unnoticed. So - when watching this cut down version of the War Games, as well as being reasonably familiar with the content, I did notice a lot of the work going in to redux the story, but to the average viewer - I would bet they wouldn't see half of it.

Topher's Phantom Edit has been leaked for years. I don't think he's been confirmed as the supercut guy though.

Just an alternate way of viewing a story like the 2 Peter Cushing Dalek films are

I think they cut it down a bit too much. There were parts that I wouldn't have known what was going on if I hadn't seen the full version.

I absolutely loved this, ... except! For the Master implications. Remove that crap, and this is a 12/10. There's certainly some good software to remove music and leave everything else... though it's always going to be worse than if you actually had the original tracks before the music was added. That said - they've done a pretty good job on the music. The colourisation never feels "forced" or wrong... good skin tones, which is the usually very obvious problem if there is any. It really is just amazing!

I loved their work on adding color. I'm okay with there being a version that merely cuts bits of the story for the benefit of those who can't be bothered to watch the whole thing. But the ret-conning... oy. For this, making the War Chief the Master just makes the whole scope of the Timelords smaller. What next? The Meddling Monk was the Master? I like the idea that the Timelords aren't perfect, and there are other rogues out there (or in there, in the case of Borusa - who was handled perfectly over time, slowly becoming more and more corrupt with each incarnation.) Giving his future possible selves as regeneration options - really didn't make much sense. Really wish there was another "good" rogue Timelord out there. I'd have honored the original premise, brought on another Timelord as a companion who ends up inheriting the moniker as the original Doctor died. At least it would have kept some sense of jeopardy in the show. Now he's overpowered, even "bi-regenerating", which again... makes no real sense. The modern penchant for rewriting history for no real reason is irksome. From the Timeless Child (which made no sense, since Matt Smith's Doctor had to be "given" new regenerations having reached the end of his regenerations - yet now he's had an endless stream of them, as well as the entire story of the Master in classic WHO who was disfigured having tried to regenerate past his limit, having to find another way to "regenerate" by taking over another person's body), to even the regen into Jodie - fine with a regen into a female form, but why not give a dramatic reason for it (much as they did to explain the regen into Capaldi.) Good change is good change, bad change is bad change, change for the sake of change is pointless, and it's just made spaghetti of the lore.

It starts out well, but ends up an incomprehensible mess. It basically becomes a clip montage. Cutting a 4 hour story to 90 minutes was a fool’s errand. Even halving the duration would have been a struggle. The Resistance subplot is gone, but the characters are all there at the end with no explanation. The War Lord base model is bad, and the CGI Gallifrey looks totally incongruous. Has Ben Cook said that he was inferring that the War Chief is the Master? Or did they just want ‘villainous time lord music’? It doesn’t make sense that he’s the Master because the interaction with the Doctor is all wrong.

As with “The Daleks” exercise I’m a bit “meh” with this. I thought the colourisation was better done this time around and quite surprised how well the story worked considering nearly 2/3 of it was chopped. The regen redo was ok, I could have laid money on the new era faces being used as options for the Doctors new appearance but Troughton’s disdain for those is funnier as a result IMO, tidying up the TARDIS landing from Spearhead was nicely done and the TARDIS not deciding if it was the 70s or 80s raised a chuckle. One thing I fully expected to see at this point was a nod to the “6b” theory, thought that would have been an irresistible tinker. The one thing that let this down for me (as with “Daleks”) was the music, far far too much, made me feel like I was watching one long overlong highlights video. The term “incidental” seems to have been lost on whoever put this together. Prime example is the use of Murray Gold’s “Master” theme whenever the War Chief appears. If they had just used that one little bit of Dudley’s motif in that one little moment they did and left it there it would have been far more effective. Overall an interesting curio, definitely suited for the more …er…attentively challenged, but I’ll keep to the original for future rewatches.

You know what if they’re gonna retcon the Doctor’s timeline but adding incarnations before Hartnell, it would only be fair to retcon the Master’s timeline but making the War Chief an incarnation. Two Friends with the Two Retcons. Problem Solved.

There is something about how they filmed this year of Who which may have helped with the colour, I forget the details but , very roughly speaking, something like they filmed onto black and white with a colour camera..or vice versa..something like that lol The natural settings helped early on, the colours would be muted anyway. For me the editing and colouring in was a definate step up from the last one.

I really enjoyed this, for me this was real Xmas special! I wouldn't have bothered with The Master hint they did and I think the outside pics of the evil lair didn't blend well with the older stuff at all,, but that aside, I'll probably rewatch this more than the orginal. Loved the ending, even though I do love the dark open ended ending to the original, its lovely to see the gaps filled in.... and to see the lovely faces of the 3 main actors in colour, they all look so young !

It was totally and very unnecessary it was alright as it was. I'd had rather had seen you guys continued on with season 10 than seeing you react to this bucket of vandalised crap a colourised episode with a new old regeneration no one really asked for or wanted or needed this is RTD propaganda I also hated that they retconned the War Chief is the Master considering Terence Dicks has insisted they are not the same character including two novelisations he did that also confirmed this. It was butchered to death 50% of story cut out all this because morons like RTD and Collinson think it's fun. I will always stick with the proper 10-part original in glorious black and white.

Wow, you guys are back! I was starting to think you'd gone troppo. This is the first I've seen of The War Games in Color as it's not available yet in America. Did they ever actually say or show that The War Chief was the Master other than the musical cues? I'm not at all big on the idea. I can't fathom why everything has to go all tiny universe like Star Wars these days, where everyone is related to everyone else. Next thing you know and the Meddling Monk will be an even earlier incarnation of the Master. I think the skin tones on this look absolutely dreadful. Everyone looks like a corpse. The original War Games is a classic as it was. No need to do these things.

The fact they start with an establishing shot of Earth when the story tells us a couple episodes later that it's on "a planet selected for the war games"... I've not seen the whole condensed version, but based on clips and other reactions, I wish they'd just color it and not remove 70% the material or adding in new material or corny circus music. The revisions do characters and plotting a disservice as too much overlaps at just the wrong times.

All they had to do is add colour. They had one job

Troughton's shirt was white on set, apparently, and as for insinuating The War Lord is The Master goes completely against writer, Terence Dicks explicit wishes. If he were alive today he would be mighty pissed-off, and I wouldn't blame him. 9/10 for the colourisation and fan-made regeneration, but naff all for the rest.

I think one of the shots of Pertwee was from Inferno, from Episode 7 when the Doctor wakes up from his coma.

Well, that was an abomination.

Just imagine, without all those men upholding the infrastructure down in the dangerous, dark and dirty glass cellar jobs, Joy wouldn't be whingeing and making misandrist comments. She'd be starving and in the dark.Come to that, RTD and Moffat wouldn't be flouncing around making woke vitriol like this. They'd be in the same boat.

The locked door in hotel rooms is no mystery its just connected rooms 🤷🏾‍♂️

Since Murray, Russell and Steven came back, everything thing about doctor who from writing to music has felt like 05-18 doctor who again and it feels great as that's the era I grew up watching it

You criticise the attack on religion, yet becoming a star and joining loved ones after they die is almost the same idea as dying and joining loved ones when you die. Personally, I really enjoyed the episode. I thought the main theme was about connecting with people.

I remember the good old days when it was about monsters, aliens and saving the earth rather than sexuality, gender issues, love lives, pronoun bullshit and wokeness.