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@katerinamakedoniaGreece 4 ай бұрын

Alphabet maths grams fysiki athletics Olympics politics school academies musiki logici planites astra philosophy philology kardiology zoo scholia academies klima and the greek scientists are laughing with your nonsense. You are just crooks and uneducated barbarians without any offer to world's civilization. Even Cyrillos was Greek monk and teacher. You are disgraceful and racists jerks .. We are Greek MACEDONIANS Hercules descendants and Temenides Dynasty. You didn't kill us all these centuries because God protects the true people. Not liers and crooks or fascists kike you

@nikutb6798 4 ай бұрын

τα αρχιδια του Ομηρου πως ειναι στη γλωσσα σας ....ιερεια ρε βουρλα; δεν ειναι η θυσιαστρια αλλα ο θηλυκος παπας...ο ιερευς εκ του ιερος οστις ιερουργει ...

@fanichatzicharalampou7545 4 ай бұрын

What's this bs😂

@YT-gj6nq 6 ай бұрын

What a load of crap! Homer has never mentioned Slav.

@GEO-PAN 7 ай бұрын

Pathetic...

@Gkrals-yu5xe 9 ай бұрын

It’s all Greek. Time to accept your Slavic Bulgaric heritage and that you had zero to do with Ancient Macedonia or Alexander or Homer. 😂😂😂🤡🤯

@sunfromGovrlevo 9 ай бұрын

Then, according to you, all Slavic languages originate from the Greek language.

@sunfromGovrlevo 9 ай бұрын

In the Moscow National Library, there is a Chronicle from the 7th century written by Jeremiah Rousseau. In that documentary scholarly work, Jeremiah recorded the following: "... We, the Russians and Muscovites, are descendants of the ancient Macedonians. We, today, speak the language spoken by the ancient Macedonians of the Macedonian peninsula, who, apart from other countries, also ruled Egypt for 307 years..."

@antondavidoff150 11 ай бұрын

Lets see some thrachian words .. Herodot said that the Illyriana and the Thrachian people were similar and could understand eachother.. lets see

@sunfromGovrlevo 11 ай бұрын

A strong confirmation of that fact is the narrative monument "Moscow Annals" from the 8th century, which today is kept in the central library in Moscow. It is written in it: "We, the Russians - Muscovites are descendants of the Ancient Macedonians. We speak the language of the Ancient Macedonians". As we see, a testimony that confirms the Macedonian character of all Slavic peoples. SINCE 556 BC, the reformer Pisistratus ordered the Iliad and Odyssey to be translated into Greek, for centuries, until today, no one is allowed to write and openly ask a logical question - excuse me, from which language was Homer's translated ep? Historians write that it was translated from a barbarian language. And what barbaric language is that? What is the name of that language? No replies. So, where did these barbarians live? North of the Greeks. If they were barbarians, how is it possible that they have such a developed language and that in it they can sing that great war epic, which is appropriated by the Greeks?

@my8osprive Жыл бұрын

hahahaa! lol! what nonsense. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@my8osprive Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡

@HelloHello-qj1um Жыл бұрын

Namens vergleich taterschaft 06.04.94 personen die in spanien sich vorgetâuscht haben das sie entführte gewesen wâhren

@my8osprive Жыл бұрын

Historians have seen all evidence. They have even seen immigration documents from Ellis island of people referring to themselves as “Macedonians”. This is what they have to say: During the early 20th century, several Macedonian immigrants identified also as Macedonians, as indicated by census data, immigration records, newspapers and several testimonials. Nevertheless, that designation was used then mainly as a regional, and not as a national identification. The sense of belonging to a separate Macedonian nation gained credence after World War II, following the establishment of the People's Republic of Macedonia within the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the codification of a distinct Macedonian language. Dusan Sinadinoski, "Macedonians" in Ethnic Groups in Michigan, ed. James M. Anderson and Iva A. Smith, The Peoples of Michigan Series, (Detroit Ethno Press: 1983, Pg. 196. 1920 US Census showing in Granite City that hundreds of Macedonian-Americans put Macedonian as their mother tongue: "United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJHF-H7Y : accessed 14 July 2017), Anastas Mitsareff, Granite Ward 5, Madison, Illinois, United States; citing ED 85, sheet 4B, line 84, family 84, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 390; FHL microfilm 1,820,390. It is clear that even in the pre- 1945 period a large segment of Macedonia's Slavs declared themselves to be "Macedonians," although it would be completely premature to assume that this label stood for a national, as opposed to a regional identity. Victor Roudometof, Collective Memory, National Identity, and Ethnic Conflict: Greece, Bulgaria, and the Macedonian Question, Greenwood Publishing Group, 2002, ISBN 0275976483, p. 109

@sunfromGovrlevo 9 ай бұрын

On the application form it is nicely written that nationality is required and Macedonians declared that.

@my8osprive 9 ай бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo This is incorrect. If you check the ship manifests closely you will see something different. For example, looking for immigrants who declared themselves "nationally Macedonian" during this period with a random last name, e.g. the last name Dineff, the search returns a total of 119 results. Taking at random a name, e.g. Lazo Dineff, we see Nationality : Macedonia, Macedonian. But where does " Nationality: Macedonia, Macedonian " come from? So let's see what the "ship manifest" says... Looking at the original file we see that there is no column "Nationality" but only the relevant column "Place of birth" with subcategories "country" and "city or town". Mr. Lazo Dineff has the word Macedonia handwritten in "country"! It did not exist in 1912. Conclusion one: nationality is not deduced directly from the archival source but indirectly, i.e. from the place of birth on the "ship manifest". The source says place of birth Macedonia, so it is inferred that he was "ethnically Macedonian". And this conclusion is certainly arbitrary, because a resident of any other ethnicity could have been born in Macedonia in 1912. Plus there was no country called ‘Macedonia’. So here we have an inconsistency. With only the place of birth stated in the source, it is arbitrarily inferred that the particular immigrant was "ethnically Macedonian", something which obviously he did not state anywhere, since there is no field in the original source that clearly states "nationality". From the above essentially what is exposed is basically, if nothing else, misinformation, which comes from the Ellis Island Digital Archive page itself.

@my8osprive 9 ай бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo "I believe the Bulgars who have come from Macedonia are registed on Ellis Island as Macedonians, which is bound to be confusing and inaccurate, for Macedonians may include Greeks, Vlachs, and even Turks. The distinction between the Bulgars from Bulgaria and those from Macedonia is purely political". ---Emily Greene Balch, "Our Slavic fellow citizens", 1910.

@sunfromGovrlevo 9 ай бұрын

@@my8osprive Yes, You speaks of the same people in Macedonia as Bulgarians, and of the same people in Greece as Slavs.

@my8osprive Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@my8osprive Жыл бұрын

You're just showing that your modern Macedonian language has loanwords from Greek. 🤣🤣 🤣

@sunfromGovrlevo Жыл бұрын

Not only Macedonian words, but they are also Slavic words. In the Moscow National Library, there is a Chronicle from the 7th century written by Jeremiah Rousseau. In that documentary scholarly work, Jeremiah recorded the following: "... We, the Russians and Muscovites, are descendants of the ancient Macedonians. We, today, speak the language spoken by the ancient Macedonians of the Macedonian peninsula, who, apart from other countries, also ruled Egypt for 307 years..."

@my8osprive Жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo Communist propaganda 🤣🤣🤣

@my8osprive Жыл бұрын

You're just showing that your modern Macedonian language has loanwords from Greek. 🤣🤣

@sunfromGovrlevo Жыл бұрын

Not only Macedonian words, but they are also Slavic words

@my8osprive Жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo Slavs came into the region in 6th c AD. Those are loanwords in to Slavic and many of those words still exist in Greek.

@sunfromGovrlevo Жыл бұрын

@@my8osprive A strong America of that fact is the narrative monument "Moscow Annals" from the 8th century, which today is kept in the central library in Moscow. In it is written: "We, the Russians - the Muscovites are descendants of the Ancient Macedonians." We speak the language of the Ancient Macedonians".

@my8osprive Жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo LOL! The first known reference to Moscow dates from 1147. So there could be no 'Moscow Annals' from the 8th century. You are quoting Petar Popovski from his propaganda book 'Stolen History'. 🤣🤣

@sunfromGovrlevo Жыл бұрын

@@my8osprive Then this is also propaganda according to you pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11260506/ HLA alleles have been determined in individuals from the Republic of Macedonia by DNA typing and sequencing. HLA-A, -B, -DR, -DQ allele frequencies and extended haplotypes have been for the first time determined and the results compared to those of other Mediterraneans, particularly with their neighbouring Greeks. Genetic distances, neighbor-joining dendrograms and correspondence analysis have been performed. The following conclusions have been reached: 1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum, like Iberians (including Basques), North Africans, Italians, French, Cretans, Jews, Lebanese, Turks (Anatolians), Armenians and Iranians, 2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum, 3) Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups. Both Greeks and Ethiopians share quasi-specific DRB1 alleles, such as *0305, *0307, *0411, *0413, *0416, *0417, *0420, *1110, *1112, *1304 and *1310. Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group and finally Greeks cluster with Ethiopians/sub-Saharans in both neighbour joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses. The time period when these relationships might have occurred was ancient but uncertain and might be related to the displacement of Egyptian-Ethiopian people living in pharaonic Egypt.

@blerimimodaable Жыл бұрын

Now it's so funny how some Bosnians and Serbs claim to be Illyrian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@dove5591 Жыл бұрын

Well he is an idiot but why are you sharing this video if it is aganst Macedonians it makes no sense?

@afrimademi9713 Жыл бұрын

Theodor Momsen : The survivors of the Ilyrians are the Albanians. Kelly Miller : The Balkan battelfield is exactly the center of world History. Wadham Peacok : The mann who marched to Babylon Persia and India were the ancestors of the Albanians. Nikolla Jorga : The Albanians people together and the Basques one are the oldest5 in Europe. Joseph Salinger : The Epirotic lamguage of the past is the Albanian language of Today. Branislav Nusic : The Albanians are indigenious who during all the agitations managed to save their charachter and even emphasized it.They resisted on Romans attacks and surrived the slavic migrations. Edith Durham They are strewen with the wreckage of dead Empires past powers only the Albanian gos on forever. Robert Gordon Latham : Macedonia and Thracia were Albanian / Skipetar.Franz Bopp : Albanian is the oldest indoeuropean language. Alphons de Lamartine : Albanians this nation and this people can not be mocked .This is the Landd of Heros of all time .Homer found there Achilles the Greeks the Alexander the Great.Turks found Scanderbeg people these of the same racethe same Blood.Mauricio Druon : Albanians belong to the Nations who are older then the History.and the Grandfathers of Albanians took part in trhe Troy War,ruled by Hector on one part and by Achilles on the other part. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : Albanian is the old language of the Ilyrians. Edwin Pears : Albanians are the Descendants of the oldest race in the Balkanic Peninsula an Aryan Race.Even the word Aryan in their language means pure Gols.Maximilian Lambretz : The tru History of the Humanity will be written only when it will be written with participation of Albanians.Jovan Cvijic : South Slavs after arrived in the Balkans found there the Albanians who under their preasure Slavs retreated southward and to most mountains Areass. Edwin Jacues : Ilyrians or Albanians those tirelessnes sonns,were warriorrs of the Albania ethnic.Amcestors of Achilles , Philip II,Alexander the Great and Pyrros of Epirus.Johan Georg von Hahn : The Albanian derives from Ilyrians and the Ilyrians from Pelasgien one. Henri Barisford : In Macedonia Albanians are the only indigenous people.General Niox : Albanians are of Pelasgien origin they are considered one of the most beautiful and courageous races.Gustav Meyer : The Albanian language is the oldest language in Europe.Herbert David : Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkans, and they are the gods of the mountains from very ancient times. They are the descendants of the ancient Pellazgia, no other race has a valid claim to the territories of the Albanians. Lord Byron : Albanians with their costums make a most wonderful scenery in the world. Albanians are the mostr beautiful human race exists courages, stronger than their strongholds. Konstandin Paparigopuolos : Only the Albanians are considered descendants of the Ilyrian Race. Gustav Meyer Albanians are the young Ilyrians and the Ilyrians are the Descendannts of Pellazgi. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : If you want to discover the History before Christ and the sciense at that time , you have to learn the Albanian language. Strabo : Betwen Grece , Thrace and Danube are the Tribes of Epirots , Macedonians and Ilyrians. John Wilkes The lands betwenn Adriatic and Danube were inhabited by a people called Ilyrian. When the Albanian language will be well studied and when its oral traditions will be exhumed, then many of Homers works will be revisited and some of them will need to be corrected. Herodotus had no idea that the names of the Heroes of Homers work were clearly in the Pelasgien language.Even Homers own name can be tracked back to the Albanian language : Good and in the form Imiros means good poetry. In the Albanian language it is : Agamenon , He - ge-mendon, he who thinks , Ajax that Bloodsucker ,bloodsucker: Priamos , Mothers Son,mothers son and with an ironicmeaning Son of the Earth, of the Country: Achilles , of heaven one descended from heaven: Odyseus of the Road the traveler the one who walks: Ithaka, i thak - idhnak: Droilos,Droili (os) one who fears,a coward .Many more could be added to this list. Its is not suprising if people who have studied the Albanian language say that this is the original language of Homer and that the Greeks took from the Pelasgien poets most of the songs of valor and heroicones. They built big walls that are called cyclopean and for which Prof.Pokok says they were built long before Homers Greeks existed.From this strong prehistoric race only the Albanians remained.Only later was it realized that the Pelasgien were the old Ilyrians ,the first Indo-European branch, whose empire stretched from Asia minor to the Adriatic and from the North to the Danube.From the studies of young writers,like Proff. Max Mueller and Proff, POT, in the Albanian language this origin became stable. Thesse Ilyrians who still live in Albanian as Toska, Toscana,Etruscan.It is in vain to look for the gods of Grece in the etymology of her language. In the Albanian language these are very clear and their meanings are very correct. Gor example , Chaos emptiness, space Erebus,son of Chaos, is er-het-os, made dark: Uranos is I-Vran-os, that is, the fairy of the clodus, the Clodus: Zeus, Zaa,Zee,Zoot-God,voice of lighting: Athena is the Spoken , by speaking the word: Nemesis,nemes,that is, nam,Devils call: Muse,Mosois,is the Teacher:Venus meansclose to the day,the dawn. George Fred Williams wrote in 1914 : If we go back to prehistory, before the Homeric rhapsodes were sung to the gods and mythological heroes, before the Greek language was written, there lived a people known as the Pelasgiens. Albanians are the only ones who have come to this day from this powerful prehistoric race.Only in recent years has it been determined that the Pelasgiens were the Ancient Ilyrians.... These Ilyrians aqlso went to Italy under the name Toska, as they are still called in Albania, while in Italy they remained as Toska, Tuscan Etruscan. Albanian was the tru language of Homer, because the Greeks borrowed from the rhapsodist Pelasge their famousepic....Albanian was the mother tounge of Alexander of the Great conquests and and of Pyrrhus of Epirus,one of the greatest generals in History...... It is a tragedy beyond all imagination , that this great and very ancient race should end up in this state, which deserves to be called the Scandal of European Civilization.It is not suprising that the Otoman conquer prohibited any exavation in the Albanian land, which could remeind the people of its former glory.. What a great wealth of knowledge awaist the archeologist when the Albanian land opens the treasure of the History of the Pelasgiens. The origin of Albanians - In prehistoric times , before the poets of Homer sang of their Gods and heroes of fairy tales,before the Greek language was written, there lived a people called the Pelasgians. Even before the Hellenic branch became known in the Mountains of Thesaly, Skodra the chief city of Albania was undoubtedly the capital great Kingdom of Ilyria. Facts about the Origins of the Moderrn Greek State .1. The first King of Grec is the Bavarian Prince Otto 2 The Typical Greek of the time spoke Arvanite a language very cloesly realeted to Albanian so it is a Albanian dialect,3 The national costumes of Greek is the Albanian Fustanela 3 The national Dance of the Greek indepedence is the Albanian Chamiko The Dance of the Chams /Came -a subgroup of Albanians in Greec.4 In the Year 1831 Athens was made up of 8000 houses where most of the Inhabitants were Albanians -Helene Glykatzi-Ahrweiler.5 The majority of Greek soldiers spoke in Albanian to one another Parnassos Magazine. History of The Greek flag in 1822 Grecce adopts this flag its naval ensing. in 1828 in battle of Navarino Britain liberated Grecce from Turks.In 19780same flag becomes Greek national flag. Greek national Flag is British Colonial Blue Ensing Flag.

@ylliriaalbania326 Жыл бұрын

What? Slavo-Bulgarians who came from the Urals of Russia claim to be Illyrian? Very funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@23-. Жыл бұрын

Okei little serb 😂

@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын

So you claim latin letters to be cyrilic???

@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that's latin pal😂 good try though

@AntonioDimitriadis 2 жыл бұрын

macedonians like the rest of greeks: had greek names, spoke greek, worshipped the same greek gods, named their placenames with greek names, participated in greek olympic games, traced their originis in greek mythical heroes, spread everywhere the greek language and culture, used coins written in greek

@abc-vw8iy 2 жыл бұрын

As we can see Illyrian looks like some proto slavic languages also word sicca which means knife is similar to seci which means to cut in Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian

@blerimimodaable Жыл бұрын

You wish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thika=Sica

@abc-vw8iy Жыл бұрын

@@blerimimodaable And sica=seci, in Dalmatia sici which means to cut

@blerimimodaable Жыл бұрын

@@abc-vw8iy And sica=thika, in Albanian thika means knife. Btw, ancient Dalmatian was one of the Illyriaian dialects. Mid-eavlel Dalmatian was still vulgar Latin with lots of Illyrian words......

@abc-vw8iy Жыл бұрын

@@blerimimodaable Ok but Seci or sici is still much closer than thikë also Illyrian word sybina for spear we have under word siba which is not spear like spear for war or hunt but it is wooden stick

@blerimimodaable Жыл бұрын

@@abc-vw8iy Seriously, fundamentally why would you ignore historic fact that Serbs came to Illyrian peninsula on XVII & XIII century? That solves it all!!!!!!!!!!

@my8osprive 2 жыл бұрын

This is Greek script. The Cyrillic script borrowed from the Greek script, this is why you see similarities. Also why is it BACIΛICCA and not BACИΛИCCA if it were Cyrillic? or better yet why not КРАЛИЦА??

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

Forget to write the most important word in Greek the name of Queen CLEOPATRA in Cyrillic is КЛЕОПАТРА , how is it in Greek KLEOPATRA or Κλεοπάτρας.

@my8osprive 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo lol! In Greek it is ΚΛΕΟΠΑΤΡΑ just like it is written on the coin in capital letters. Not Л but Λ. Give it up man and try to learn some Greek first before making such claims.

@my8osprive 2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHHAHA!! This is Greek script. The Cyrillic script borrowed from the Greek script, this is why you see similarities.

@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD 2 жыл бұрын

MAKEДОНИЈА ВЕЧНА!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@wlp_diavolakos7352 2 жыл бұрын

original greek words

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

But use and other famous Slavic people.

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

In the same collected edition, Prof. J. Kaleris says that "the Macedonian language was often used with the purpose of winning the trust of the Macedonian people." In the periodical Mesiniaka, J. Kordatos, a historian and sociologist, undeniably declares that the ancient Macedonians spoke a language different from Greek.

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

If the modern Greeks want to deny the ancient Macedonians their spoken language, then, they need to rewrite the history to suit their version. [1] Quintus Curtius Rufus "The History of Alexander" "Alexander the Great speaks in front of the Macedones of his army: "The Macedonians are going to judge your case," he said. "Please state whether you will use your native language before them." Philotas: "Besides the Macedonians, there are many present who, I think, will find what I am going to say easier to understand if I use the language you yourself have been using, your purpose, I believe, being only to enable more people to understand you." Then the king said: "Do you see how offensive Philotas find even his native language? He alone feels an aversion to learning it. But let him speak as he pleases - only remember he as contemptuous of our way of life as he is of our language". This is Alexander himself talking about "our way of life" and "our language" "Macedonians are going to judge your case" There is no need for any explanation.

@wlp_diavolakos7352 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo φυσικα και μιλουσαν διαφορετικα οι μακεδονες μιλουσαν αλλη ελληνικη διαλεκτο που ειχε και φρυγικε λεξεις γιατι οι παλαιοτεροι κατοικοι ηταν οι φρυγες οι ελληνες δωριεις στν μακαδονια πηγαν αργοτερα.και σημερα στην ελλαδα εχουμε διαφορετικες διαλεκτους.

@wlp_diavolakos7352 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo there was no macedonian language but a macedonian dialect. not all greeks spoke the same way. not even the aetolians could understand the athenians. but they all spoke greek dialects

@King-kl1gh 2 жыл бұрын

ilirian shit languange

@ylliriaalbania326 Жыл бұрын

Tqifsha ropt

@I_am_who_I_am_who_I_am 2 жыл бұрын

There are two Albanias, one in Asia near India of which we are not speaking here, and the other in Europe which is part of the Byzantine Empire and of which we are speaking here. 1308 Anonymous: Description of Eastern Europe

@kalathasl 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 YOU REALIZE THAT TO ME SPEAKING GREEK AS A NATIVE LANGUAGE THIS VIDEO IS AT LEAST FUNNY.How can you understand the hellenic culture when you are denying it at the same time .WHAT EVER HOMER WROTE ON THE VIDEO I CAN UNDERSTAN SIMPLY BECAUSE WITHOUT ANY CHANGES IS THE SAME IN MODERN GREEK (HELLENIC TO US) STOP STEALING OUR COULTURE AND HISTORY . BE PROUD OF YOUR SLAVIC ORIGIN , IT IS A GREAT CULTURE .

@GeoBBB123 2 жыл бұрын

Stay ignorant you fools ...

@_miskos 2 жыл бұрын

Tho "c" as s is not Cyrillic, c is s in the Greek Byzantine alphabet.

@ioannisplatogiannis4472 2 жыл бұрын

That is Greek script that uses C instead of Σ. ΚΛΕΟΠΑΤΡΑ ΒΑCΙΛΙCCΑ

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

Do not move me, КЛЕОПАТРА is Cyrillic or not.

@ioannisplatogiannis4472 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo Cyrillic had not been created at that time, this is ancient Greek script

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

@@ioannisplatogiannis4472 Question is simple КЛЕОПАТРА is Cyrilic or not.

@ioannisplatogiannis4472 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo how can it be Cyrillic if the Cyrillic script had not been created yet? the characters you see on the coin are of the Greek script of the Hellenistic and Roman periods. There are similarities between the Cyrillic script and characters on the coin because the Cyrillic script was party based on the Greek script.

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

@@ioannisplatogiannis4472 Greek is KLEOPATRA

@scorpiohanibal7779 2 жыл бұрын

Многу кратко видео .Дајте објаснување ,Дајте превод на англиски .Барем 3- 4 минути а не 3 секунди .

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

Толку ми се можностите.

@my8osprive 2 жыл бұрын

He can't. It's not Cyrillic but Greek alphabet.

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

Macedonian coins with Cyrillic inscription Cleopatra(КЛЕОПАТРА) 900 years before Cyril and Methodius.

@my8osprive 2 жыл бұрын

The Romans participated in the Olympics AFTER they conquered the Greeks, so they pretty much were able to do what they wanted. Philip II (as well as Archelaus and Alexander I which you omitted) participated BEFORE the Macedonians dominated the Greeks (battle of Chaeronea 338 BC). Go figure... 😉

@georgedrivas6690 2 жыл бұрын

15 years later and seriously there are people that take this and reproduce it as if it is something like fact. Lmao!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

@georgedrivas6690 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo for further complains refer to Prespa Agreement of 2019. Thank you!

@georgedrivas6690 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo And also there was never any kind of arguement whether your language is a Slavic or not so we can have any kind of such argument to begin with. Given this fact, there was never any point of trying to match in any way that works, ancient Greek worda with your language, at the times that Slavs didn't even exist in the area. Thank you!

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

@@georgedrivas6690 The 7th century Chronicle by Jeremiah Rousseau is kept in the Moscow National Library. In that documentary, Jeremiah wrote: "… We, the Russians and the Muscovites, are descendants of the ancient ancient Macedonians. Today, we speak the language spoken by the ancient Macedonians on the Macedonian peninsula, who, in addition to other countries, ruled Egypt for 307 years… "What ever we Macedonians understand this words.

@georgedrivas6690 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo "the something chronicles which is kept in somewhere". I guess it is also secret from everyone as well right? Again there is no arguement about ancient Macedonians not speaking Slavic language. That is a not a questioned fact. The appearance of Slavs in the area of South Balkans is very well documented and nobody questions it. Not to mention that Moscow was established in 1147 AD to begin with and the name Russia on the 15th century. But that Jeremiah wrote about Russians and Muscovites for 7th century. Right!😅🤣🤣

@ervishoxha8679 2 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahah. Illyria is an Albanian word

@my8osprive 2 жыл бұрын

All your Homeric words are just not transliterated correctly. Try using the original Greek. Slavic has thousands of loanwords from Greek. That's why you see some similarities. 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 According to DNA data for 17 Y-chromosomal STR loci in Macedonians, the Macedonian population has the lowest genetic distance against the Bulgarian population (0.0815) Jakovski; et al. (2011). "Genetic data for 17 Y-chromosomal STR loci in Macedonians in the Republic of Macedonia". Forensic Sci. Int. Genet. 5 (4): e108-e111. doi:10.1016/j.fsigen.2011.04.005. PMID 21549657. This research was conducted in Skopje. The genetic distance between Bulgarians and ethnic Macedonians would be even smaller had the latter not mixed with Serbs over the last 100 years,

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

I Use Latin transliteration from www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0133 HLA alleles have been determined in individuals from the Republic of Macedonia by DNA typing and sequencing. HLA-A, -B, -DR, -DQ allele frequencies and extended haplotypes have been for the first time determined and the results compared to those of other Mediterraneans, particularly with their neighbouring Greeks. Genetic distances, neighbor-joining dendrograms and correspondence analysis have been performed. The following conclusions have been reached: 1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum, like Iberians (including Basques), North Africans, Italians, French, Cretans, Jews, Lebanese, Turks (Anatolians), Armenians and Iranians, 2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum, 3) Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups. Both Greeks and Ethiopians share quasi-specific DRB1 alleles, such as *0305, *0307, *0411, *0413, *0416, *0417, *0420, *1110, *1112, *1304 and *1310. Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group and finally Greeks cluster with Ethiopians/sub-Saharans in both neighbour joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses. The time period when these relationships might have occurred was ancient but uncertain and might be related to the displacement of Egyptian-Ethiopian people living in pharaonic Egypt. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11260506/

@my8osprive 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo I don't know why KZbin deletes my comments when they have links... so I will reply without a link. First off, you have possibly found words in IE and PIE that may be found in Slavic. Big deal... Slavs are not indigenous to the Balkans. If I did the same exercise to find which Homeric words are in the Greek language I would need to make thousands of videos. Finally you quote papers from Arnaiz-Villena that have been dropped and rejected. Typical propaganda tactics. Just google 'Arnaiz-Villena dropped paper'.

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

@@my8osprive Some words You Greeks do not use while they are present in the Slavic languages, where the Slavic (Macedonian) words were found in Homer's Iliad. And in Black Athens it is written about the Greeks that they are newcomers from Africa.

@my8osprive 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo Yes, some ancient Greek words (not only Homeric) are not used anymore in modern Greek. This is called evolution. You have no proof using this thought process and logic. The reason you find some semblance of Slavic words in Homer's works is attributed to IE or PIE roots. Black Athena is another afrocentrist piece of propaganda.

@sunfromGovrlevo 2 жыл бұрын

@@my8osprive HAHA Everything is propaganda like this The Pelazgian people are clearly described in Homeric poems as non-Greek, with their own language and traditions totally different from Greek. They inhabited the Balkan Peninsula (known by the names Macedonians, Thracians, Illyrians, etc.) and they spread throughout south-eastern Europe (under the common name Scythians). Later, they migrated to the east in Asia Minor (Lydians, Brigians-Frigians etc.) and to the west into central and northern Italy (Etruscans, Veneti etc). Their name, Pelazgians, most logically could be interpreted as the ‘dwellers of the flat lands’. They cultivated the fertile valleys and became a part of the landscape their fecundity only paralleled by the far Eastern nations. In the Iliad, they are identified as Trojans and as the inhabitants of Crete. According to Greek writers, they are credited with building the Acropolis and as those natives that the ‘Greek’ tribes met when they arrived in Southern Europe.

@hristian74 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting to see that comparison, However, it would be nice to include two more languages in that table - Bulgarian and Russian. The fun starts then .... full scale!!! :)

@johnnyp5956 2 жыл бұрын

Why to include Bulgarian and Russian , when they even doesn't exist in that time ?

@jorgoasparuhov4131 Жыл бұрын

Those are later languages and they are produced and come from the Macedonian language, Iven Bulgarian is a politically invented language, and Bolgarian belongs to the Turkomingolian group of languages.

@Georgi.Delchev.Reborn Ай бұрын

@@jorgoasparuhov4131 A declassified document from February 17, 1950, published by the CIA (CIA-RDP83-00415R004300550001-2). Pages 5 and 6 - "...They (the Komintern) created the Macedonian language. All family names were altered. Books are printed in Macedonian, which the Macedonians do not understand.... It is a transition between the Serbian and Bulgarian languages, but more related to the Bulgarian...".

@messiah5332 3 жыл бұрын

Masterpiece. I am suprised that you haven't researched P-R-O-M-O-S-M!!

@my8osprive 3 жыл бұрын

lol! A bunch of crap and misinformation.

@vothichien3982 3 жыл бұрын

the video image is too poor, you need to fix it more

@POTIS1 3 жыл бұрын

I DONT UNDERSTAND HOMER AND MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE IS THE GREEK LANGUAGE...WHATS THE POINT OF THIS VIDEO?

@sunfromGovrlevo 3 жыл бұрын

This words is in the Lation translation of the Greek alphabet(by the way) Koine is Macedonian alphabet.

@sunfromGovrlevo 3 жыл бұрын

If the modern Greeks want to deny the ancient Macedonians their spoken language, then, they need to rewrite the history to suit their version. [1] Quintus Curtius Rufus "The History of Alexander" "Alexander the Great speaks in front of the Macedones of his army: "The Macedonians are going to judge your case," he said. "Please state whether you will use your native language before them." Philotas: "Besides the Macedonians, there are many present who, I think, will find what I am going to say easier to understand if I use the language you yourself have been using, your purpose, I believe, being only to enable more people to understand you." Then the king said: "Do you see how offensive Philotas find even his native language? He alone feels an aversion to learning it. But let him speak as he pleases - only remember he as contemptuous of our way of life as he is of our language". [p.138] This is Alexander himself talking about "our way of life" and "our language" "Macedonians are going to judge your case" There is no need for any explanation.

@sunfromGovrlevo 3 жыл бұрын

THE EGYPTIAN KOINE (19TH CENTURY OLD GREEK) HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MACEDONIAN HOMER! Homer's language was written only as the Slavic language Pasov (1815) and only the Slavo-Macedonian Chulkas (1907). Charles F. Potter pointed out that in the seminars for the clergy in the United States it was obligatory to study the so-called "classical Greek". Students learned very difficult language with complex cases, genders, numbers, voices, times, ways, conjugations, declensions, and other changes. When they took him to read Homer in the original, instead of reading "Greek" poetry, they were introduced to a new system of change, but not like the ones they taught. Homer's language was not "Greek." Next Homer's language was vernacular and therefore much simpler than "classical Greek" Koine. Naroden = barbaric - Macedonia barbaric (Theophylact of Ohrid). About our Slavo-Macedonian language written by Chulkas (1907), who was a Greek as a member of the Patriarchate of Constantinople, under which to this day are the churches of the Aegean part of Macedonia, under occupation since 1913, and never under the Athenian church in the village of Athens with all of Greece whose churches were only under the Orthodox Cathedral of St. Demetrius-Bitola in the Christian Koine language of the Apostle Paul who did not know the Ionian official in Athens, even in Plato's academy during the reign of Justinian, closed by him only in 529, I have been writing about this for decades. Unfortunately, no one advertises himself as a curse in the Republic of Macedonia! IT WAS WRITTEN IN ATHENS WITH SO-CALLED SLAVIC LINES AND RECOVES (RUNI), AND LATER WITH IONIAN WORD! KOINE TO TODAY IT IS SPEAKED ONLY IN MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE: KOINE = WHO (WHO) NON- WHO IS NOT (ALL)! Koine (19th century BC) was the only language of Alexandria Ptolemy, whose first grammar and first dictionary were compiled only in 300 BC, and only in Alexandria. All works, without taking any work, were written and translated after that 300 BC, but not before that: before 300, 301 was the 4th century BC. when Philip and Alexander the Great lived. So their official language was only that of the Ionian in Athens with a letter from Miletus, and before that the signs were engraved in Athens, and they were notches - only runes. All this speaks, in Greece only Barbaric = Pelasgian (Herodotus, Thucydides, Plato ...) was spoken, which was only the so-called Slavic language. So the Iliad was written in runic and ionic letters. Because in Koine the letters were only Ionic and the Koine script was Ionic. Again, the Macedonians wrote their letter on the Rosetta Stone - Egypt. All this speaks to the fact that the Iliad was translated into Koine only after the year 300 BC. and only in Alexandria. It is confirmed from the exhibit that Koine was composed only in Alexandria, which replaced the ancient Egyptian one and from which it originated. And that is why today we Macedonians do not understand him, the so-called Homer children - children, the so-called Slavs, and only in the so-called Slavic language was the Iliad written, cited by the German linguist Passow (1815), as well as the Greek Chulkas - this one in 1907 wrote Slavo- The Macedonians in Florina spoke the language of Ran- Homer. So all this says, Koine's successor was the so-called Old Slavic with the same cases as the dative u, syntax ... This article is only for the purpose of stating that Koine is pronounced only in today's Macedonian language, and not in Greek. I do not care at all whether the Greeks call it kini or iskini ..., and that language was only Macedonian. Here is what is stated in the official German books and in German: Der Große Duden- Rechtschreinbung, 1971, page 241: "Koine [koy'ne], die, - (altgriech, Gemeinsprache) <grch>". So follow who does not. Today we Macedonians ask: Who came? And we answer: Who did not come! What this who does not explain- everyone came. This is exactly what everyone refers to = general, and the language was called a general (common) language. That is why it was just a language of all, general and common in Egypt where many peoples and races lived, which was by no means valid in Macedonia and the whole Balkans where the white race lived - only the Pelasgians. The Balkans were inhabited in the 14th and 15th centuries by the Gypsies of the Peloponnese, whose Indian musical instrument bouzouki was brought to the occupied part of Macedonia only in 1913. As early as 1923, 538,595 people were colonized in the same part of us, and a total of 1,221,849 people in Greece. They were all Asians with only Turkish language. It is time for the Macedonian people to wake up to Europe, the United States and NATO to tell them that the 19th and 20th centuries were enough, during which time you destroyed this Macedonian people and exterminated each other - damn you with your family! (PB- 09.11.2015) How is it possible that there is no Macedonian in the Republic of Macedonia in government, science, intelligence ...?!

@POTIS1 3 жыл бұрын

@@sunfromGovrlevo MACEDONIAN PEOPLE ARE THE GREEK PEOPLE MORE THAN 4.000 YEARS. YOU LIVE IN A STATE THAT CALL NORTH of MACEDONIA. PERIOD.

@sunfromGovrlevo 3 жыл бұрын

IN ATHENS WITH ALL GREECE AND IN THE ENTIRE SECOND MILLENNIUM A NEW ERA WAS SPEAKED ONLY IN OUR BARBARIAN LANGUAGE - ALWAYS THE LANGUAGE OF ANTI-CHILD According to Herodotus, Thucydides, Plato ..., the Hellenes spoke only a barbaric language, which was only Pelagic, to which Plato spoke. According to Justin, the Macedonians were Pelasgians. The Pelasgians were the Hellenes. And that is why even the Hellenes in Ionia were barbarians (Herodotus). Barbarian and Pelasgian languages were also spoken by the Romans, which was confirmed even by Dionysus of Halicarnassus who lived in Rome in the 1st century AD. That is why the Slavs also spoke barbaric language, because Prisk, Jordan, Prokop write ... Ancient Macedonians also spoke barbaric in the second millennium. This is read even by Archbishop Theophylact Ifest, known as Theophylact of Ohrid - he was the head of the Ohrid Archbishopric in the late 11th and early 12th centuries. So he preached ... not only in Koine (the language of Ptolemy of Alexandria) but also in the Church Slavonic language - he came from Koine. It follows that two official languages are spoken (Koine and Church Slavonic) and the vernacular is only barbaric. So, the vernacular in the first millennium old and the two millennia new era was only barbaric = Slavic = so-called Slavic. Falmerayer, I-247, writes: "… the whole Peninsula [Peloponnese] became Slavic and barbaric после after the great catastrophe under Copronimus…". It follows that the vernacular was only barbaric, not Koine who was Christian. So Koine was the official language. Ionian was spoken in Athens and in 529 BC - he was only a barbarian (Herodotus). Falmerayer, I-278, states: "... The main scope of the whole examination is the report of Porphyrogenitus: the whole of the Peloponnese was Slavinized and barbaric." And in the Peloponnese the Avars found Sclavini, who were polytheists. D. Obolensky writes: "and Constantine Porphyrogenitus, describing the Peloponnese shortly after 934, says that the great plague of 746-747, 'the whole country was Slavicized and became barbaric.'" Here it is Slavic = barbaric. Obolenski also states: "Towards the end of the twelfth century, the learned Metropolitan of Athens, Michael Honiat, humiliated by the discovery that his flock of poor peasants who spoke the vernacular did not understand his dazzling image of the ancient Greeks, wrote the following important words: ' "After a long stay in Athens, I became a barbarian myself." So St. John states: "The teaching of the fisherman who makes tents shines in their barbaric language more than the sun." Hahn (1865) writes of the Koine "Byzantine language" - so it was only a Christian language. The Memorandum on the Ancient Borders of Greece by Major JS Ardaf, S.B., R.E. February 24, 1881. He writes: "This common defense has led to the present use of a common language, Greek, but the rest of the Amphilochians are still Barbarians." Barbarians speak Homer's Slavo-Macedonian language (Chulkas-1907) Next Korais creates the Greek language, the official language not in 1865 but only since 1868. Catarevusa was dative and genetic, but not dimotics. Because there was no dative in Greece, Koine was not a Greek language but of the Ptolemies from Macedonia who had the dative, and today. The legacy of the Ptolemies was repelled in Bitola. Here the vernacular was only barbaric = Pelasgian. Obolenski states that in Greece "today it comes down to a fairly large number of toponyms of Slavic origin." This was also confirmed by Max Fassmer, etc. - he also writes about the dark vocals in Greece, which were only so-called Slavic. Other Slavic authors have confirmed Slavic toponyms. Even Falmerayer (1830) confirmed that in Greece the so-called Slavic accent was spoken, as well as that the Greeks were Slavicized by the Hellenes. He did not see the Hellenes in Greece speaking with Koine, but only Slavs with a Slavic language. Because Koine was a dead language, the Hellenic people were dead - only our so-called Slavic people with a barbaric language were alive. (FB- 18.11.2016) Everything in Greece was only German, as well as the Scythian, but also the Bulgarian!

@IllyrianKingdomYouTube 3 жыл бұрын

Illyrian are an old country they wasn‘t developed well because it is so long ago for example illyrian would have used photgraf and now we use photograph because it‘s grammar

@zazazazizizi6276 3 жыл бұрын

So proud to be MACEDONIAN and not Greek !!!

@levesd3722 3 жыл бұрын

What a strange video.....

@osamiremeqeneshqiptare8222 4 жыл бұрын

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@osamiremeqeneshqiptare8222 4 жыл бұрын

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@southsidegand1985 4 жыл бұрын

Pelasgians created greece and illyria AND ILLYRIA CREATED ALBANIANS (PELASGIANS 4000 B.C/ILLYRIANS 1200 B.C/ALBANIANS 1444 A.D)

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