I have been obsessed with watching your videos. I have wanted to try carbon since first considering alt process but dichromate just doesn’t sit well with me. My current making area just doesn’t have the necessary ventilation and exclusion controls I demand before taking on the toxic stuff. Thank you for these
@saidanehabib5 күн бұрын
@@johnstewart8134 you are very welcome, all my experiments are conducted in a tiny bathroom. Let me know if you have questions, it's really lots of fun. Have a great weekend.
@petergoodrum16078 күн бұрын
What grade of Amonium Iron Oxalate are you using?
@saidanehabib7 күн бұрын
I got it from ArtCraft, they didn't specify the grade.
@allisonblumenthal9 күн бұрын
Hello ! I tried this several times making new emulsions, testing ph, trying with ink, gouache, different exposure times (up to 12 minutes w UV lamp)… and I barely get an image- just the edge of the negative is visible. Any suggestions?
@saidanehabib8 күн бұрын
Hi, my first suggestion is to mix a bit at a time and to use small pieces of paper till you get acceptable results. In this experiment I used Titebond hide glue and Canson XL watercolor paper. I usually size the paper with 50% Gamblin PVA sinzing and 50% distilled water. Winsor & Newton watercolor tubes work well as many others. Not having an image can be caused by an under developed image or also working in a basic environment. Have you used you UV lamp to produce images in Cyanotype? How many watts and what is its wavelength? If you have a chance try to expose under the sun. You might want to try using gelatin instead of the hide glue as in my other videos. I also put a an image on our facebook group (link in the description) that you can use for your tests. Let me know if you have other questions and we'll make work. Have a great day.
@PortfolioWorks-international8 күн бұрын
@@saidanehabib THANK YOU! I will try to identify where the problem might lie...
@miamulvey419812 күн бұрын
I have a question regarding your digital negatives. Do you adjust them simiair to cyanotype? do you use LUT files (ie: Bostick and Sullivan)
@saidanehabib12 күн бұрын
@@miamulvey4198 I use the same digital negatives I use in cyanotype. You can use any method you want, I usually increase the contrast in Photoshop. I also use film negatives with my UV enlarged.
@miamulvey41985 күн бұрын
@@saidanehabib Thanks so much! I'll be experimenting with your process this week. thanks for sharing your videos
@saidanehabib5 күн бұрын
@@miamulvey4198 you're very welcome, use small sheets of paper for testing and make sure that PH of the sensitizer is acidic between 3 to 4. Good luck and let me know if you have other questions.
@stevenlarsen187512 күн бұрын
Perfect.
@saidanehabib12 күн бұрын
@@stevenlarsen1875 thank you so much.
@avalonparadea9820Ай бұрын
Magical! Could I coat my paper with the citrate/ gelatin/ citric acid mixture (this is the formula you use in another video)? And would it work to mix finely ground charcoal with the peroxide solutions rather than India ink? I realize I could experiment, myself, but thought I should ask first anyway.
@saidanehabibАй бұрын
@@avalonparadea9820 thank you, sure you can. It gives an amazing result. Check my video CHARCOAL CHIBA.
@davidng7806Ай бұрын
Looks great! I tried joining the facebook group. still waiting to be let in :)
@saidanehabibАй бұрын
@@davidng7806 very sorry about that, please let me know if you can't get in. Thank you
@davidng7806Ай бұрын
@@saidanehabib I'm in now, thanks! I'm interested in teaching my daughter the fundamentals of photography. Any chance you could make a tutorial on safe and relatively easy methods? I was thinking 1) a demo with cyanotypes and a UV lamp with a mask, followed by 2) a hardware demo of a pinhole camera to observe an image, and finally 3) an in-camera cyanotype or CHIBA demo? That would be a nice progression from chemistry, physics and finally an application. I just picked up a fast projection lens with a huge aperture to try some in-camera experiments.
@DocteurDuCubeАй бұрын
Is the solution of emulsion is stable for a while before adding the pigment ? Can I prepare a batch and keep it for many weeks in the dark ?
@saidanehabibАй бұрын
A good question, you sure can, adding a few drops of an essential oil will also prevent mold. My favorite way is to mix the gelatin (500ml of distilled water and 30 to 40 gr of gelatin and around 6 drops of lavender oil ). The gelatin can sit in room temperature for many months, keeping it in a fridge is even better. When I need to coat paper, I thaw a small amount of gelatin in a microwave, add the ferric ammonium citrate (powder or already mixed), lower the PH between 3 and 4, and add the color. Sensitized paper kept in the dark will also last especially if it's sealed.
@avalonparadea9820Ай бұрын
Also curious, you mention that it took 6 minutes in your UV box and this is equivalent to "2 under the sun." Would that be 2 minutes, or 2 hours?
@saidanehabibАй бұрын
In my case it's 2 minutes, the sun is much powerful. For testing use test strips or small pieces of paper to determine the right exposure.
@avalonparadea9820Ай бұрын
By "citrate" do you mean ferric ammonium citrate? Are there other types of citrate that can be used?
@saidanehabibАй бұрын
Correct, Ferric Ammonium Citrate. Ferric ammonium oxalate can also be used.
@avalonparadea9820Ай бұрын
@@saidanehabib mahalo/ thank you for your quick reply! I am very new to think process so apologies for all the questions. Are you simply rinsing the final image in regular water?
@saidanehabibАй бұрын
@@avalonparadea9820 You are very welcome, ask as many question as you want. It's a safe process. Correct, use regular water for rinsing. To develop use 0.3% (point three percent) hydrogen peroxide.
@robertfiss976Ай бұрын
Greetings, and I apologize in advance, for this question. I create cyanotypes, and I love learning new processes . Did I miss a step where you expose the paper with a negative to create the image? Thanks again
@avalonparadea9820Ай бұрын
Utterly spectacular! What types of paper do you use? Could this be done on watercolor paper, perhaps?
@saidanehabibАй бұрын
Thank you, I use mostly Canson XL watercolor paper 9"x12". This process works also on fabric, glass etc...
@reusedisland1904Ай бұрын
So Hands-on - Love it! From Vancouver 🙏
@saidanehabibАй бұрын
@@reusedisland1904 thank you
@itspeacheАй бұрын
Wow cool!!
@saidanehabibАй бұрын
@@itspeache thank you
@EasyEarPianoАй бұрын
Great results without silver!
@lisabakke9280Ай бұрын
Wonderful and you used a digital negative?
@saidanehabibАй бұрын
@@lisabakke9280 thank you, yes digital, regular overhead transparency printed on a Canon imageclass laser printer.
@EasyEarPiano2 ай бұрын
Is it possible to use just rust water from rusty pot instead of ferric ammonium citrate, like the ecoprinting by Nikola Brown in Irealand
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
I am not sure how sensitive to UV light it is, it's worth giving a try.
@glorund2 ай бұрын
Hi Saidane, thanks for all your instructional videos. In many of your videos Oxalic acid and citric appear as interchangeable. Can I use citric acid instead of oxalic in this process, too? or you don't recommend it for some reason?
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
You're welcome, I use Oxalic acid most of the time, Citric acid works also. The most important thing is before mixing the color is to check that the PH is between 3 and 4. Good luck and let me know if you have any questions about the process.
@RCHRD4442 ай бұрын
I need to try this...What is the dpi of your transparency prints? I can print on 1200, but seem like not enaugh...
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
@@RCHRD444that's plenty, I use a canon imageClass laser printer on regular transparency. Make sure to add oxalic acid or other acid to the solution to lower the PH to around 3 to get good results.
@RCHRD4442 ай бұрын
@@saidanehabib thank you
@onnoweb2 ай бұрын
Wow! Have to try this!
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
The PH is crucial, a value between 3 and 4 would also work great. You have to the choice to use pre-mixed hide glue, as you can mix it yourself the way carpenters or piano makers do. Simple unflavored gelatin works well too. I published videos how to do it. Good luck and let me know if you have questions.
@mohsenshayan97982 ай бұрын
Very impressive! Have you ever tried in-camera cyanotype with a pinhole camera?
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
@@mohsenshayan9798 thank you, I haven't and it should work. However the exposure time might take a very long time.
@petervlahov80702 ай бұрын
Great, impressive work.
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much.
@depressedfox62182 ай бұрын
That looks so clean.
@coudercjeff20552 ай бұрын
super video , really clear and informative.At wich temperature room do you work ? i m living in vietnam, the temperature is more than 34 degres, and my gelatin never get dry .Do you know the maximum temperature to have a dry gelatin ? thank you.
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I develop at temperatures between 25 and 30. I believe you can develop at 34 degrees, the developing is going to be much faster and you have to inspect the exposed glass more often when it's developing in the hydrogen peroxide and in the water, when you see nice image remove de glass from the water before it melts away. Gelatin takes at least a couple of days or more to dry, use a fan to help it dry faster. You can add Potassium Alum to the gelatin mix, it helps it harden, 15 grams per liter. Let me know if you have other questions and good luck.
@eightyeightdays2 ай бұрын
There's something strange going on with that image because at 12:15 you can see a VERY pronounced reticulation pattern that you wouldn't normally see with the naked eye. I've only ever seen it once on a carbon print, but never on my printing matrices for collotype using FAC or DAS. It may be due to sudden temperature changes. Even using a foam roller the image quality you can get with this and related processes is usually very high. Check out the Getty Institute Atlas pdf document on Collotype for the sort of pattern you should expect to see under a microscope.
@piet-wj9pd2 ай бұрын
👍
@nikosmamalos2 ай бұрын
Seeing you experimenting with all this techniques, I just wanted to ask you what do you think about collotype and CHIBA?
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
My goal was to try photogravure with CHIBA one day and any other process that is done with dichromates, just to show that it can work. I did an oil transfer print last week and the result was amazing. I never tried the Collotype process before, but I believe if we can harden the gelatin a bit more we'll be able to safely make successful Collotype prints.
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
By the way it is a great question, and lets make it the topic of the next CHIBA Oil video.
@nikosmamalos2 ай бұрын
@@saidanehabib I would certainly love to see that!!!
@nikosmamalos2 ай бұрын
@@saidanehabib I like very much the aesthetics of photogravures. I have seen people using dry film instead of dichromate. Collotype process on the other hand looks more doable since a printing press is not necessary.
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
@@nikosmamalos Hopefully this week we'll have some results. The UV enlarger helps a lot.
@mohamedoubihi1732 ай бұрын
Hello Sir What diffusion angle you use for the led lenses...60 or 90 or 120 degrés?
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
Salam, I got a $10 100W UV LED from ebay, they didn't mention the diffusion angle on their listing. I put a 77mm lens in front of it. You can contact me at this page and I'll give you the links of what I bought: facebook.com/groups/alternative2
@1025cgarcia2 ай бұрын
Hi Habib, have one question, do you size the paper before applying the emulsion? I would think is not necessary, but want to be sure
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
Hi, You can get away without sizing, but it depends on the paper you are using, This paper is Canson XL watercolor paper and in minute 4:06 of the video I mentioned "Sized Paper". When I size I use Gamblin PVA mixed with water half and half. When you experiment use small pieces of paper first to see what is better with size or without. Let me know if you have other questions.
@1025cgarcia2 ай бұрын
@@saidanehabib I understand. I've been doing some salted paper prints with excellent results on Canson also. I size my papers with thick gelatine (slight higher concentration than the usual 3%, or PVA a little over 50% of water) I like gelatin better. Since I learnt about Chiba and especially, your version, I started to rethink bromoil and gumoil. I hate to use dichromates. Tomorrow will be my debut with your version of Chiba. So witch me luck😁
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
@@1025cgarcia Great and good luck, the CHIBA oil is much easier you'll see, use just regular paper without sizing.
@RaghavendraUdupa3 ай бұрын
Nice! Do you expose through the glass? And what happens to the residual gelatin in the matrix that has not been hardened by exposure and peroxide treatment? Do you remove it by hot water bath like you do in carbon transfer process?
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
An excellent question that made me look closer to the process. In the carbon transfer we need to melt the unexposed gelatin to get rid of the unwanted pigments. In this process we want to only a good polymerization. Melting here can cause problems, having it helps the ink absorption. The exposed gelatin in the presence of the peroxide polymerizes, becomes smooth and indented, resists the inking and created the 3D look. I inverted the negative and exposed on the emulsion side. Looking at the print through the glass is amazing. Let me know if you have questions when you try it.
@RaghavendraUdupa2 ай бұрын
@@saidanehabib Thanks for answering my question. Much appreciated.
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
@@RaghavendraUdupa Anytime, thanks.
@AlainDakar3 ай бұрын
Bravo l'artiste ! C'est toujours un grand plaisir de visionner vos réalisations qui sont toujours inspirantes! 👍🏻🙏
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
Merci Alain c'est gentil de votre part. Je suis juste un bricoleur qui espere devenir un artiste un jour. Je suis a la requete de faire un systeme pour mieux presenter nos traveaux photographiques par apres.Cet agrandisseur de $50 me permettra de laisser les negatifs numeriques de cote' et me donnera la possibilitee d'agrandir l'image tant que je veux avec des meilleurs resultats. Reagrdez ma derniere video avec de la peinture a l'huile sur verre en utilisant cet agrandisseur. Mon plan et d'ameliorer une technique ou deux et puis allez photographier le desert du Sahara et puis faire des tableaux. Laissez moi savoir si vous avez des questions. Bon weekend.
@AlainDakar2 ай бұрын
@@saidanehabib merci pour votre réponse, en France il y a un proverbe qui dit que l'on "préfère les ingénieux aux ingénieurs" en tout cas bravo! Pour l'agrandisseur je ne suis pas très fort en électronique et un de mes amis va commencer à s'inspirer de vos recommandations pour en fabriquer un. Continuez votre précieux travail et Peace ! By the Way you are an artist!
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
@@AlainDakar De rien mon ami et mille merci de nouveau. En Tunisie on dit: demande l'avis de quelqun avec experience et ne demande pas celui du docteur. Je ne suis pas un electricien non plus, il faut un peu de courage et il faut foncer. Vous pouvez me contancter directement sur facebook, je vous passerais d'ou commender le materiel et je vous aiderez pour mettre tout ensemble. Si vous avez deja un vieux agrandisseur le materiel est vers les 50 euros. Un jour on fera un agrandisseur numerique. Bonne journee et bonne chance.
@AlainDakar2 ай бұрын
@@saidanehabib merci Habib pour votre soutien ! J'ai un Krokus dans un coin et je vais le transformer
@saidanehabib2 ай бұрын
@@AlainDakar Bon courage, c'est un bon petit project qui vaut le coup.
@utekopka79203 ай бұрын
This is beautiful! Thank you so much for sharing the process.
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
@@utekopka7920 it's a great pleasure, thank you.
@Andre-j3m3 ай бұрын
thank you for such a detailed video!
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
@@Andre-j3m you're very welcome
@aomanchutube3 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the way the clear gelatin captures the image.
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
It's even more impressive when you look at it in person.
@bobdriessen94663 ай бұрын
Absolutely great!
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much.
@piet-wj9pd3 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@nikosmamalos3 ай бұрын
Really Nice and very promising results! Thank you!!!
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much.
@shanematuszek90093 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this, I've been waiting for someone to take on gumoil without dichromate
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
You're very welcome. The results are amazing, somehow the phone camera couldn't focus while filming. The print looks better and better as it dries.
@piet-wj9pd3 ай бұрын
many thanks 👍
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
@@piet-wj9pd you're very welcome
@3dmaniac3 ай бұрын
I love your work, but dichromate is very toxic, mutagenic and carcinogenic, shouldn't you work with gloves and not pour it down the drain?
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I totally agree, gloves are a must and it was a mistake. This is just a proof of concept to show that a UV enlarger can be used in alternative photography. Unlike European countries, there less restrictions in the US. I seldomly use dichromates and I don't encourage people to use them, the reason why I did lots of research and experiments used Ferric Ammonium Citrate instead like in the CHIBA process videos.
@3dmaniac3 ай бұрын
@@saidanehabib Thanks for your reply, I'm looking for a safe alternative to Dichromate, so I'll run to check out your experiences! :) Have a nice day!
@putnik8053 ай бұрын
How is it possible to have that sharpness and detail?
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
It did surprise me at first. It's like taking a photograph on film. if we can focus properly, use an uncoated lens and a smooth sensitized paper like an inkjet photo paper in this case Epson, we can create amazing sharp and very high resolution photos. Since UV light back focuses, to get a good focus, a fluorescent coated paper can help prefocusing correctly before exposure.
@RaghavendraUdupa3 ай бұрын
Amazing! Congratulations! I wish you had shown the film negative also in your otherwise very interesting video.
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
Thank you, that is a good idea, I'll make another video with more details.
@pampmousse3 ай бұрын
Hi, i'm looking to buy all the equipment that I don't already have. And i'm wondering the thickness of your magnetic strip (wish would more or less determined the thickness of the tissue) Thanks a lot for your work and dedication from France
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
Merci beaucoup, this thickness of the magnetic tape is 1.4 mm. Use around 50 ml of the glop mix for an 8x10'' sheet. Best wishes and good luck from Texas.
@schlurpie3 ай бұрын
i've also been doing same process last year with my agfa box camera. and this year i started doing in-camera cyanotype using Mike Ware's new formula with my kodak 3A autographic camera. the only problem with the new formula is that it's too sensitive with paper impurities. so i need to use it as fresh as possible.
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
I believe this method is cleaner and faster. I couldn't get clean in camera cyanotypes with Mike Ware's formula, if left for a while, the emulsion darkens even in the presence of air alone. Good luck and let us know if it does work for you.
@piet-wj9pd3 ай бұрын
👍
@Elmaxhappy3 ай бұрын
The result is great. I have 2 enlargers at home, one of them quite old and damaged that can be used for this project. Thank you so much for sharing it. By the way, do you apply a hydrogen peroxide bath after developing? It greatly intensifies the blue color of the cyanotypes.
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
You're very welcome. With the Canson paper I'm using the peroxide didn't make a difference. Increasing the blue can be achieved by exposing a few minutes longer. UV enlarging safely is impressing. Let me know if you have any questions.
@lucashardy56123 ай бұрын
This is awesome! I'd love to try once i get an enlarger
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
Thank you, enlargers can be found for cheap, get one that utilizes a condenser, I haven't tried the ones with translucent screens yet. Hopefully we'll build an enlarger from scratch in the future.
@aomanchutube4 ай бұрын
That's pretty cool. I was thinking that just plain paper would work. I'm a few steps behind you on this using a DLP chip as a mirror/pellicle. I finally figured out how to run the projector without the lamp. Still wrapping things up, UART is fairly complex for modern projectors. But I've already exposed many images using the high power projector lamp. I'm hoping that the LED swap will work wonders. I'm removing the color wheel and replacing the glass integrator tube with an aluminum tube to integrate the light and make a nice evenly illuminated rectangle. The LED comes with a lens, I won't be using that I think the integrator tube might work better. Maybe I'll need a fresnel lens. Don't know yet.
@saidanehabib4 ай бұрын
@@aomanchutube thank you, paper works especially if you make it expandable as bellows so it wouldn't rip easily. I started working on a DLP projector, I removed the UV filter but wasn't careful removing the color wheel which made the projector stop working. I believe you wouldn't need a fresnel lens, my thoughts were to use just the LED. I'll do a digital build from scratch in the future. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
@piet-wj9pd4 ай бұрын
thank you 👍
@saidanehabib4 ай бұрын
@@piet-wj9pd you're very welcome.
@saidanehabib4 ай бұрын
@@piet-wj9pd you're very welcome
@benjaminstorrier4 ай бұрын
This is so great :) really looking forward to seeing the results:)
@saidanehabib4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, the results are amazing especially when you see them in person.