@@HappyPizza64 Absolutely! Video effects for all lifts everywhere, please! XD

@mcxcdx There are a fair few of them on boats, yeah, but when that's the only place you can really find them reliably now they're still rare if you ask me.

Thanks! Ah right, definitely aftermarket then. Older lifts like this seem to survive better in marine environments - not sure why, as they're very busy upon embarkation and disembarkation - maybe the components have had durability beefed up to allow them to take the forces experienced on a boat, and as a result are lasting longer.

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial They would have to be well built and much more heavy duty that lifts on land. They have to be built to withstand bad swaying when there’s bad weather. Also, to modernise or replace the lifts would require them to go to dry dock, which would mean the likes of Stena Line would lose money just to modernise or replace the lifts onboard. They would wait until they need to bring the ship to dry dock to overhaul the whole ferry to do the lifts (if they need to be done)

@europa2000man Ah right. That's probably what the Kleemann used to be as the modded lift looks too old to have been a D-Series (unless the fixtures got replaced) and the Schindler is in a new extension.

@@LGCT Defo!

@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL Yeah but they're not the worst either. I initially thought it was something other than a 5500 upon first sight but then I heard the door motor and was like, "surely not!" XD

@HappyPizza64 Yeah XD Wait I thought it was Sematic, maybe not XD

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial oh is it? XD

I heard. Real shame; these were epic. At least the ones in Swords are still original for now.

Agreed, defo!

@tjlifts4068 I guess not XD It might have moved locations though.

Yeah, probably just a blooper in the replacement process XD

Interesting, in all the time I've known it I think I've only seen it broken once. Maybe it has a behind-the-scenes fault or something like that.

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial I don’t think it was actually out of service, when the doors opened the lights were off.

@LGCT Nice one! Wow that sure is a long time ago XD Yeah I can see how they could be unnerving for some, but at least it gives them character!

@Mind-The-Doors Noice! Yeah they would have a lot of them up there alright, given the geographical proximity to Finland. I quite like the fixtures too though I'd personally prefer Delta.

@RoLiftsOfficial Ahhh nice. Would love to see a video of that some day, maybe when it's closer to completion. Oh silly PC, don't be ruining the fun lol XD So the reason there's been literally zero update on this series since day 1 is I used to get a lot of comments on Skyscrapersim videos back in the day asking things like how do you make these buildings, so I thought a tutorial series on the programming language would be very useful to a lot of people. Sadly though I had a lot of other projects on the go at the time outside of KZbin and unfortunately based on the video's very low view count I thought there actually wasn't that much demand for it so I sort of put it on hold for the moment. I really hate to promise and not deliver and make decisions based on views and stuff but sadly other projects had to come first here. But I never truly canned the project - one of these days maybe when some of the other projects have concluded I might get on with the other episodes, because I do feel a lot of guilt about making vapourware out of something that would actually probably come in handy to a lot of people.

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial Sad to say, on this particular account I'll not post videos outside of *Real-Life* lifts. However, the ongoing hand-coded building I'm working on will come out on the Skyscrapersim Forum.

@northernirishlifts Thanks! Ah right, it did have a feel of an ex-H&M about it. I guess the replacement must've been done while it was still H&M then as the new one only opened recently iirc.

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial yea it was done when this was still H&M

Noice! I didn't actually ride those ones this trip, maybe next time. BTW did that boat go to Holyhead? Just wondering as it seems a bit of a stretch to get to Manchester from there.

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficialYes. The Irish Ferries ‘Ulysses’ has done the route between Dublin and Holyhead since early 2001 (only a few months before I was born in 2000). Before this, it was the ‘Isle of Inishmore’ from 1997 to 2001 and was moved onto the Rosslare to Pembroke route until recently. I think it’s now doing the new Dover to Calais run. From Holyhead, it’s about 2 and a half hours to Manchester. It’s basically a straight run along the A55 North Wales Expressway and straight onto the M56 motorway all the way to Manchester and the M56 would be on the right side for the Trafford Centre. In case you’re curious, the Ulysses have (and I presume still have) Kone M-Series lifts by the MacGregor company and the Isle of Inishmore have (and I pressure are no longer on the ferry) 90s Thyssen lifts with square black buttons with green LEDs. These were also 2 speed lifts.

Ah right, very interesting. All my UK trips so far were via StenaLine so I don't know much about the other ferry companies. Inferring from a video by another user the Inishmore now has KONE lifts with KSS-570 fixtures, so I guess the Thyssens were what those replaced. Also FYI the Stena Adventurer (one of the two Stena ships on the Dublin-Holyhead route) has two MacGregor-KONE TMS lifts with aftermarket Drucegrove voice announcements. They have rare "deck" announcements, never heard those before on that voice. The other ship on the other hand, the Estrid, has modern KONE Marine lifts instead, though one of them has a curious 90º door setup.

Ahh right - I did actually ride the ones in the Palazzo, those are coming in a separate video, though not the ones on the walkway - for some reason I skipped them - and I can report the Schindlers do run though they seemed a little poorly. I didn't do much exploring on the upper mall so I guess I wouldn't have seen the others.

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial schindlers have been off for a while from what i understand so i'm not too surprised that they might not be at their best now. i guess that walkway is quite long so it makes sense if you were just thinking oh god how long is this gonna take lol as an aside i hope you went into both selfridges and john lewis while you were there

Ah ok. Yeah it sure was a trek to get over the bridge but it was worth it (there was also a vintage Mercedes 380SL on display at the end, which was interesting). Yep I saw those as well, those'll be coming soon. JL's lifts were very busy as one of the escalators was down, so I sadly couldn't film those too much.

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial what a silly escalator, how dare it do that

@@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL Insert at least 20 more beeps here XD

Well it worked perfectly fine apart from the button beep lol

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial Then it must be considered reliable...

First one in a H&M in Ireland yeah, though I think there are a couple others outside of H&M stores. (Sorry for replying so late - on holiday rn)

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial With the same fixtures?

Thanks! Ahh right, they were in dire need of a job tbh XD Interesting, wonder what they'd do with the current Sports Direct if that went through. (Sorry for replying so late, on holiday rn)

@lovelifts1736 Thanks! Yeah they are characterful, just a shame so many of them have a big jolt on startup, though I guess that adds to the character XD

Ah right ok

Ah right. Do you know what they did when they worked?

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial I think it was around 2021/22

Thanks!

Thanks, yeah it is an epic one. Hope you find one soon, sadly I can't think of any convenient ones right now but hopefully some day one will reveal itself to ya.

It mightn't show so well on camera but trust me the startup is mega loud in person XD

Ah right, thanks for the info. Do you know if the OTIS was hydro or traction?

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial I was never in it sadly but nathanandrews100 was in it back 2014 and he confirms it’s a traction lift (I presume a two speed lift). I seen it back in 2008 when the store was still stuck in the 1990s. I think there was only stairs down to the basement where I think the shoe department was. I think there was escalators to the first floor though. It’s over 15 years ago now, so it’s hard to remember correctly. I do remember the lift despite not getting to ride (at the time, I was lucky to get into 4 or 5 lifts a year, because I wasn’t really allowed to go in lifts, plus I was afraid of lifts at the time)

Well at least we get to hear the brake clearer now XD

I can think of 10 to 15 known examples though there are definitely way more than that. In terms of older KONE lifts in Ireland, Delta is generally the more common fixture.

@@LIFTEXCELSIOROfficial Maybe Finland will have more KONE Sigma MonoSpaces.

Absolutely'

Defo!

Defo!

Thanks! They're limited to the speed at which I can go through the presentation slides lol - I did try to animate them but it was being temperamental.

Thanks!