I'm dropping the game in the start of the 4 episode, the story is just very meh in the overall. The characters are so annoying; the plot is not that interesting and instigating; the themes are so predictable; the mysteries don't matter at all; the dynamics structure is sheer bullshit; the story doesn't aggregate anything if you have a good reasoning about general matters; and the reveals are so disappointing. Being short, it's just not a fun experience. It's just a bunch of people arguing about irrelevant things. And in comparison to the people doubting the appeal of this game in the very first episode, I got very far by reaching the fourth. First, I was thinking that I was dumb, but I saw some people like me who read the entire thing and still disliked it, so I've made up my mind. Anyway, maybe the manga will be a much better experience, as you say, but for now I prefer to look after more exciting pieces of story.

This was a really solid video especially from a channel this small. I love how honest you are with your takes even if I disagree with most of them. Like Erika is one of my favorite characters from the story because of how absolute demonic she is (which made it very entertaining to me) but I completely understand why you ain't enjoy her. And I definitely agree her tormenting Natsuhi was dragged out to freaking hell and back. Also I'm definitely giving the manga a full read someday.

I agree with some of your opinion, really great analysis like i genuinely hope that vn readers will give the manga a try, such an emotional and satisfying ride that complement the vn a lot in its own way.

Bring the Fate is without a doubt one of the best songs in the entire soundtrack, if not the best!

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My brother is currently tackling the manga as per my recommendation (My No.1 manga as of right now) and so to prepare for lengthy talks about everything that happens in this wonderful story I've been re-reading the manga and watching as much content on it as possible. And I gotta say this video is special, its such a heartfelt re-telling of a rollercoaster of experiences and you sum up my love for this thing wonderfully. Safe to say I'll be checking out your remaining videos, what a joy to discover you today

Question... is this Shiki the same one as in Garden of Sinners?

Why are you using hte ugly sprites

100% agree with everything. I started Umineko because I was seeing so many people saying that it's "the beest VN ever written" and similar stuff. When I got to the answers arc I got really disappointed, especially with EP7. It was so stupid that the story, and especially with Willard trying so hard to make you understand what "real good mystery" is and then not explain anything and just be as ambiguous as possible. ALSO as Willard himself said the "whydunnit" should be the most important part especially since it's not covered in many mysteries, AND THEN the reason/motive we got from Beatrice was SO lame in my opinion. And the last part that really pissed me off was how weird and contradictory all the stuff with shannon/kannon/lion/beatrice was, especially with certain red truths in previous episodes. I haven't read the manga yet, but I'm going to read it now and hopefully get a better experience.

gotta set the expectation low so it hits hard when he start trying

It feels like you're way too attached to Beatrice and didn't really appreciate the critical roles that Ange and Bernkastel play. Bern is to Ange as Beato is to Battler, but the former are figments of the past while the latter are concerns of the future. There's so much depth to these characters than just their romance, too. Beatrice held this secret that she desperately wanted to share but only on her terms while the world after the events that took place there scrambles to dissect her story. It's a story about stories.

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I agree that the manga is a more complete and consistent story that retroactively improves the messyness of the VN, but it also somewhat takes away from its themes. The VN is, fanboism aside, at times godawful. Cringey dialogue, inconsistencies and flaws abound, terrible pacing and unclear storytelling. You could say the same for most of Ryukishi work. But when I think about Umineko and what it has given me, I don't really care about those, nor would my experience of it be made more meaningful if the story were better told (though it would be much welcomed). It construes just about the most radical, insane piece of speculative fiction that only gets wilder the more I think about it. The objectivity of the red truth corroding their its own foundation, the complete blending of metaphor and reality, then the utter rejection of objective reality itself, the insane parellels between living characters and in-universe fictional ones that end up influencing the actions of real ones, thus actualizing their own agency (Erike and Angie in the Truth Ending, for instance). Instead of sticking to its own rules, the story finds ways to exploit them in order to create whole new, more absurd avenues, piling the ontological contradictions one atop another until you get one big semiotic mess where nothing makes sense, yet everything makes sense and all of these endless truths are, from certain standpoints, equally valid. The witches as being actual beings in the aether, but fading if they become bored as they are merely concepts. The fragments consisting of fictional worlds and personal experiences instead of objective timelines. It's a story whose logic can easily be applied to one's perspective of the world, and see the concept of reality in a more nuanced way.

5:30 Lol the manga I read literally had text colored... It made the read worthwhile as B/W mangas with Red & Blue & G texts at times

honestly i disagree with a lot of your opinions, but it was still nice to hear another fan of the original’s perspective on the remake! thank you for making the video 🥰

Amazing video with alot of points and thoughts I could relate to, and you did a fantastic job in explaining yourself and your feelings. I had a great time watching it.

Ehhh... some of these seem like nitpicks to me. And some things are explained or can be explained.

My only major complaint with it is how Ciel is basically non existent in Arcs route if you make the right choices. On my run through Arcs route I only ever ran into her 3 times. And two of those were her saying she was leaving forever. While I think Mario is a great addition to the story, the scenes where he replaced Ciel from the original I thought were weaker. Especially the one where he flat out states Shiki is not turning into a vampire and that he is stupid for believing that. But the fact they went all in on the Arc true ending was perfect.

Having fully read tsukihime remake recently, i have to say i disagree with most of these complaints. You basically mentioned how every other nasu verse story has elements of remake but then turn around and say tsuki re is a problem for it because the og was a vn written by 4 people with a paperclip and a wad of chewing gum? Its scale and scope wasnt some unique idea or even intended, its simply how the story was writen under those circumstances. Furthermore the complaints about it like the stories intentionally being parts of a whole or adding mystery for the sequel is very weird.

Would have appreciated a warning that this has spoilers for BOTH Higurashi and Umineko

wow we really disagree on this thing that we both love... maybe I lack love to understand your slander to the umineko vn

Akiha > Arcueid > Hisui > Ciel > Kohaku

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Kohaku best girl

Roa and SHIKI are two diffrent characters So there is two diffrent main villains in tsukihime depending on which part we're talking about Also roa not being able to take over in the farsides are due to The demonic blood of the tohnos which caused SHIKI to go insane and all this mess happening in the first place

i recently had the pleasure of finishing mahoyo and tsuki re back to back, arc's route end still twinges at my heart strings whenever i think of it... what a woman

I think the visual novel has a...peculiar beauty if we think hard about it. Its true, that in many parts it kinda bored me with the way the characters kept talking about the scenery or about meaningless things...but, I think the visual novel wants us to solve and NOT solve the Ushiromiya incident at the same time I reached that conclusion through episodes 7 and 8 of the visual novel. Meanwhile, the manga teaches us about the mystery, the real solutions and the afterward of everything (which I enjoyed so much and I am also glad the manga explain this to satisfy my curiosity) The visual novel, tells us the answers in an ambiguous way. In the scene of Will and Claire "fighting"... they are not excatly doing that, it just a way to finish her funeral once and for all by Will telling her the solutions of her crimes and make her die away in peace. t might seem like a jumble of words but Will is actually telling us what happened...even if its extremelly confusing. For example, game 1, Kanons death, he says "An Illusory witchs stake...pirces only illusions", If we have the pieces toguether it makes sense, "Kanon" as an indivual doesnt exist, he is an illusion so of course it was an act. And I think they do it that way, because I dont think this mystery wants to be solved...at least not in the conventional way. The visual novel wants us to say "It really matters who killed the Ushiromiya family?" after reading episode 8. Ange reaches the truth, but its shown that...thats not really what she wanted in the first place. She has to protect the many posibilitys that resides inside the catbox, and thats what is shown in the fight of the Ushiromiyas vs Erika. Thats why that scene between Rosa and Maria exists, even though, we know that Rosa was an horrible mother, inside the catbox, she can be a lovable and amazing mother for Maria...or the death of Kinzo, he is shown alive...but we all know he is dead before the family reunion in 1986, but inside the catbox, he can be alive, be a good grandfather and celebrate halloween parties for his grandkids...or a world, in which, Shannon, Kanon and Beatrice can coexist and live with the people they love... This is what Ange as the Witch of the future has to protect, that we, the hungry goats, dont destroy this catbox, this board full of possibilities, they dont want us to solve the incident, so all this possibilities stay as they are. But of course, Im not gonna lie, I love the manga too. Im not a person that can get the mysterys at first glance and the manga helped me go through it and understand, for example, Sayos motive, and many mysterys that the visual novel doesnt really answer or provide. The manga shows us more backstory, and more things about Sayo, which I really enjoyed and Im really glad about...and wish the VN did too... For a better understanding, I agree that de manga is a better choice, but for another point of view...the visual novel has a really nice touch to it . Great video by the way and sorry for the long text.

In focusing too much about the plot, you have left out the magic of the story thus missing the whole point of Umineko's answer arc

this was a great video, I love Umineko so much you can also try the ps3 port

I am the opposite of you as I am really glad that umineko's ending turned out to be as vague as it did. It really got me hooked and made me think about umineko for years before the manga come out because Umineko gave me a feeling of "there is a truth and it is coherent with the story" and I believed it, much like the "love" relationship of author and reader that the story mentions. It was so fun that every 2 or 3 months I remembered some think of the story and linked with other hint and figured out something, and after a few more months i figured out more and I did that for years. Then at some point i found some blog of umineko readers discussing opinions and i had a lot of fun imagining each possibility. It was something I never experienced before and probably will never again. And years later the manga ep7 came out to give the canon answer, but at that point it did not matter so much and actually spoiled the fun of the mystery. But it only worked because i was fully convinced that the story was coherent and consistent and that there was an actual true answer tha fits all the plot holes, much like scientists believe there is an answer for science problems, it is out there hidden, we just have to find it.

Okay but isn't shiki only Rude towards Arc? like he is never rude for no reason towards Ciel, I always thought the reason Shiki is rude towards arc because nanaya inside him is constantly irritating him while he is with her edit: also i feel like u are mistaken about noel, Noel is supposed to be a normal person who is mediocre at best, noel has always been more violent towards vampires even before being bitten by vlov, Noel is a terrible mediocre person if anything I think Arach being the person that turns Noel into a Dead Apostle only adds to Noels tragedy.

3:48 wHaT dO yOu MeAn, yOu LeFt OuT Satsuki Yumizuka route

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Great video

I’m glad you ended up enjoying the story

disagree with a lot but this video was incredibly well made. I'm glad the manga was able to help you enjoy the series, and I agree that I prefer the manga more. keeping the box closed in the VN isn't my cup of tea, but I feel it contrasts and builds upon the themes for the manga well. but at the end of the day, the payoff of actually seeing all these scenes (like e8ch37) feels so great and emotional.

If I was to be honest I do prefer FMAB and the manga a lot more since I view something that’s accurate to the manga. I feel like FMA2003 and Fate 2006 will be those anime’s that I will check out after being exposed to their superior source materials and adaptations.

12:44 My crack pot theory is that Nasu try to keep in my that in older melty blood(the fighting game made by french bread), Nero is such a degenerate sick fuck that MB scene kinda die down to early (not completely, just a bit too much). So he replace them with vlov so that the character in MBTL(the new fighting game) is less degen. Still a sick fuck tho, but less than nero.

You completely missed Ryukishi's point in episode 8. Those answers were not needed. Erika and Maria's fight explicitly states this and is even called back to with young Ange, Battler and Beato's scene in the beginning and end of episode 8. Hell you see the same thing as early as episode 2 from Rosa's POV in the scene in the garden AND multiple other times. Ange was so obsessed with what "truth" was it completely broke her and poisoned her perception of her family. Every person in the Ushiromiya family are deeply broken people that have done terrible things but they are not only just that one aspect. I think the biggest example of this was Eva. She can be an absolute giant bitch to someone like Natsuhi and on the other hand be a deeply loving and caring mother/aunt/wife to the others. Not one single "truth" out weighs the other and both are valid. Erika's obsession with "truth" and being right was Ryukishi doing his best to show you that. To a child that sleight of hand trick could be the most magical and mystical thing in the world to them. From their perspective its real. Overall objectively manga 8 is better than vn 8, but its not needed to get across the ACTUAL message that Ryukishi is trying to tell you and objectively goes against Umineko's entire philosophy. The VN completely stands on its own feet in regards to storytelling and meta narrative. Umineko as a whole is a commentary on storytelling as a medium, the ENTIRE mystery genere, and the concept of what "truth" is and if it even fucking matters in the first place while also telling a deeply emotional story about unconditional love and familial bonds.

So Tsukihime IS finished just not fully translated. Piece of Blue Glass Moon is just part 1 😢and we need 2 more parts. They’re written just not remade yet?

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That's because the manga was the "second read" of Umineko after reaching the truth. Regardless of whether you reached your truth with your own hands or not, the second read is always much more enjoyable!

4:13 a minor nitpick i have ( lol ) Thats just roa not SHIKI the thing with SHIKI is he is just a body that roa the dead apostle controlles Excpect in OG ciel route where roa didnt take full control of SHIKI's body and he was able to say some lines to his bro there and there

I too disagree with your take. You have a "trick" centric view of the story. Which is why I think manga appeals to you as it has a concrete turn of events.

Well first of all, you have to know that in the original Tsukihime, the news also cover the mysterius disaparence of the people in the hotel, the other about Shik's personality, is his trait, if you change the way he was from the OG Tsukihime to a new one, is not gonna like to the old fans from over 20 years. Now the Nrvnqsr, the thing is yeah I also don't like, BUUUUT the thing is now to make a balance between the Fate enemies and the Tsukihime enemies, you have to put in perspective, Nrvnqsr is like in a real other league, he was to powerfull the same Nasu said he had to put him out because of that, and wanted to put something like Vlov this time, you have a Nrvnqsr one of the TOP 10 DAA with over a 1000 years of life, and Vlov, who have like 20 years, something like a newborn in the DAA eyes, that's why he have to change that. THe thing I think with Arach you are not adressing is well, she know about the DA, she knows about the Idea Blood of the DAA and replicate one, so she must be one who overcome the sun, or one associated with a DAA. The Noel thing, she has sintomps and all, but She didn't have the potential to become a DA, she would become a Dead, or a Ghoul, but no more, she had the symptoms, but no the potential like SAtsuki to be one of Rank VII or VIII, but with Arach Idea Replica Noel overcome that and came a full DA so thats the thing with her.

what do you mean the unfortunetly returning assault scene it's important to Shiki's characterization and the hyper sexuality of the nanaya clan