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@RogerPack
@RogerPack 14 күн бұрын
This worked fairly well. Basically ignore everything it says ("good cell" "bad cell") and look at the CCA and internal resistance measurements. Use it on all modules and look for what is "normal" then look for any modules that lie outside of what is "normal." These modules are "somehow bad". Unfortunately it isn't specific enough to tell how bad, exactly, they might be 80% of normal capacity, they might be 15% ... but a nice start, and so easy to use! Also note that CCA values will change based on temperature so be aware...The other "failure case" it doesn't really detect by comparing CCA is leaking cells like if they drop overnight from 7.5 to 7.2, but you can just compare voltages and find those fairly easily anyway...
@sappk4908
@sappk4908 16 күн бұрын
thanks
@LukeWaters-k9p
@LukeWaters-k9p 23 күн бұрын
Excellent resource. I have searched many times for load testing and this was the best thing I have found. It worked wonderful. Thank You!
@1981zamora
@1981zamora Ай бұрын
Greta! Info. I highly appreciated it
@bestsurfersofalltime
@bestsurfersofalltime Ай бұрын
I swaped the bad module and re conected everything. Still getting red triangle and car won't start. Am I supposed to let it sit for a day so the battery levels even out?
@cvedeler
@cvedeler Ай бұрын
If your modules are testing good (above 60%) it should work. If you are still getting the red triangle there is likely something else going on. No need to even out the batteries as the car will do that for you over a few days.
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
New codes? I think I once forgot to re install the orange safety level LOL.
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
Saw one like yours on Prius chat and they had a loose bus bar on reconnection fwiw...
@DavidHunt-s5u
@DavidHunt-s5u Ай бұрын
This information Is outstanding based on all the other info out there. I have a 2010 Lexus GS 450H with a Panasonic 40 model pack hybrid battery, that I removed myself, testing cells they all were 7.6 7.7 with a volt meter. However I didn't know about this tool until watching this video. Every cell tested 100% good the internal resistance each cell was between 4.89 to 5.33 . I noticed the battery had been worked on before it was actually missing a busbar . So I ordered a replacement busbar that will be here today and I will put it on and put the hybrid battery back in the car..
@Ivy-m3f
@Ivy-m3f Ай бұрын
Love it!
@reallybigfooted
@reallybigfooted 2 ай бұрын
Genius idea, thanks
@sardoggy
@sardoggy 2 ай бұрын
Nice!
@shanewatkins5636
@shanewatkins5636 2 ай бұрын
What a great help! Found one more needing replaced. Imagine putting it all back together and finding that out the hard way! Thank you!!
@kingcarz2896
@kingcarz2896 2 ай бұрын
So what should me ohms range be? Like 4.5 to 5.5 or what? Please let me know.
@UNKLELUKE86
@UNKLELUKE86 7 күн бұрын
I believe using a multimeter for that could cause damage. If you're referring to voltage, a new cell should typically read around 7.7 volts.
@thetruthaboutusa.8735
@thetruthaboutusa.8735 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately doesn't work that way. I used this Viking battery meter on my Prius 3rd generation cells and it showed 100% state of health, 7.95V on everyone and very low internal resistance. Even though my battery had a problem on block 13. I had to run a Dr. Prius app test to see it and disassemble the battery again to replace it.
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
Did you test them disconnected I presume? If so that's a bummer, guess it means this tool can't detect the more subtle failure?
@joselarrarte6964
@joselarrarte6964 2 ай бұрын
I just replaced 3:54 all the blocks of my Lexus CT200h (same as prius.) After all done, the P3021 came up; it indicates that block 11 becomes weak. Any ideas? Do you think one of the blocks came bad? I refurbished all the blocks my self at once with new cylindrical ones. 😢
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
bad new module or busbars not connected well?
@sanjeewawga
@sanjeewawga 2 ай бұрын
❤❤ Great tricks.. Thanks Mate
@meinalixie2263
@meinalixie2263 3 ай бұрын
how do you know number 10 is bad, you said the OB2 said number 5 bad, but it is number10
@cvedeler
@cvedeler 3 ай бұрын
They are paired together.
@meinalixie2263
@meinalixie2263 3 ай бұрын
@@cvedeler How about the 60heath? 70? 90?
@robertadamson659
@robertadamson659 3 ай бұрын
The "Dutchman" said the entrance was in the shadow of Weavers Needle at 4:00 o' clock. He never said what day or which cardinal point. Figure those 2 things out and you might have a small chance!
@Omar-gr7km
@Omar-gr7km 3 ай бұрын
What from the reader told you it was cell 5? I’ve got the p0a80 not sure which cell(s) though
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
Usually it'll have another coffee like p3024 though it might be separated. "Car scanner" (or similar) app with an obd2 Bluetooth can read them...
@PantyhoseParadise
@PantyhoseParadise 3 ай бұрын
Hi. In the video you test 2 different cells, a good one and a bad one. Are you saying if you used the Sperry on the 2nd cell you tested, the known "bad cell", it would have shown as "good" or "normal"? And the purpose of using the Viking is to show it is actually bad if under load? Thank you.
@DUARTE-777
@DUARTE-777 3 ай бұрын
Thank you thank you❤ so much man🙏🏽
@josetejada320
@josetejada320 4 ай бұрын
Petrified giant trees all mountains and hills are giant petrified tree stumps wich means the whole earth grew it was organic
@e.g.5385
@e.g.5385 4 ай бұрын
When you replaced the bad module, did you have high voltage difference compared to the other modules? I replaced a module and showing 1.2 voltage difference and throws the "check hybrid system" p0a80 code on my odb2 reader. I need help.
@cvedeler
@cvedeler 4 ай бұрын
The voltage of the cells wasn't my problem. All my cells were +/- less than 1 volt. It was the internal resistance that caused my problem.
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
Is this right after install? Did it go away on its own?
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
@@cvedeler It throws codes if internal resistance gets out of whack? Or were voltages also weird?
@a226sig
@a226sig 4 ай бұрын
I've always wanted to know what the top looks like.
@waqarbokhari675
@waqarbokhari675 4 ай бұрын
I used the onwei tester and it come out as all the modules are bad. It also give you an option to choose the kind of battery, like agm, lithium and 4 others. Resistance was around 5.4 and 6 all across. I don't think this really work good for hybrid battery module.
@alext8828
@alext8828 4 ай бұрын
I saw a video, way back, where they used a regular load tester on a newly assembled battery and went right along checking each module, disregarding polarity. The tester was one of the ones that's box shape w/ all the holes in the front and a meter above that. There was a switch at the bottom and it had short cables with large alligator clamps. HFT $20, I think the type was. 100 amp carbon pile. I'm sure there is no reading of internal resistance but it shows the draw=down over a few seconds. I wanted to know your opinion on all that. Specifically, does internal resistance correlate to voltage draw down?
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
Would love to find that vid. I think I have one and it doesn't show voltage when connected backwards, but can still drain the battery. Maybe they had a separate meter attached to the leads at the time, that would still read it but negative? I know people that use that tool for load testing hybrid batteries...
@Doll_from_murderdrones
@Doll_from_murderdrones 4 ай бұрын
I heard ur daughter listens to Olivia
@rayluo4665
@rayluo4665 4 ай бұрын
Chris, your test method was indeed creative. But are there devices more suitable for this kind of testing? The battery tester you used was originally designed to test the 12v starter battery, not for a 7.2v (nominal) module. Other than worrying about the reading would be inaccurate, I do not know how that "500A cold cranking amp" was tested, and I wouldn't attempt (until I watched your video) to use it, for fearing that it would draw too much amps from the battery module thus potentially damaging it.
@cvedeler
@cvedeler 4 ай бұрын
I'm sure there are many deices more suitable, but they are likely more expensive and harder to find. This is cheap, easily available and works well enough to find the bad cells. I was a little worried about the fact the device is for 12 volt batteries and not 8 volts. But it turned out working anyway. Lower voltage is probably less a concern to higher voltage. Accuracy isn't the goal, but rather finding the cells that may show adequate voltage but fail under load. Such a small device can't possibly draw 500 amps so I wasn't too worried about that.
@pacobueno2818
@pacobueno2818 2 күн бұрын
What if after this test all batteries show good? What should I search for after? T I A
@jayviz
@jayviz 4 ай бұрын
won't the resistance feature on a battery charger measure this just as precisely? I'm guessing if anyone has yanked their battery, they are preparing to charge it with such a charger. My sky RC charger for example can measure resistance. Or is that inferior in some way?
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
Should be same. This does an estimate of CCA's, which you can do in the Skyrim stuff maybe not as quickly (by doing a load test)
@BFKGintaras
@BFKGintaras 5 ай бұрын
Wow ! Thank you
@jayviz
@jayviz 5 ай бұрын
thank you for this great video. What does this device do differently than simply using a multimeter to test resistance?
@cvedeler
@cvedeler 5 ай бұрын
It puts a load on the battery and tests internal resistance. My simple multimeter can only test resistance, but can't even do that with voltage present. .
@jayviz
@jayviz 4 ай бұрын
@@cvedeler Ahh, I see. Since anyone considering this procedure probably already owns a charging unit, I am wondering if the resistance feature on such battery chargers would work just as well, or are they inferior in some way? I have the SKYRC B6AC for example.
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
​@@jayvizif it tests internal resistance it's good. This device appears to also do a CCA estimation of some sort ... Which you can do with the Skyrim stuff but possibly not as quickly (by doing a load test)?
@venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798
@venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798 5 ай бұрын
car stopped on the road 2 week ago. can the battery be reconditioned ? getting a dual charger/discharger.
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
If you're lucky, is it a pack style charger?
@venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798
@venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the prompt reply..
@venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798
@venkaeswararveeramachaneni8798 5 ай бұрын
i used the tester you used. results voltage abovr 7.55 all cells resistance 5.00 milli ohms, all 100 healthy. but says all cell have zero charge left. what is the solution.how to charge ?
@cvedeler
@cvedeler 5 ай бұрын
7.55 volts is too low. They should be closer to 8 volts. My lowest voltage cell was 7.71. If the cell resistance is 5.0 but the voltage is low, that points to a different issue, possibly with the charging system. Good luck!
@RogerPack
@RogerPack Ай бұрын
Was it throwing codes?
@mattaitchey4917
@mattaitchey4917 5 ай бұрын
Hi Cvedeler :) have done extensive testing on Toyota hybrid battery modules over the last decade, think i have tried everything imaginable over the years and i'm always keeping my eyes and ears out for new exciting ideas and easier/ better test equipment to make testing easier, but there's never any magic unfortunately I tried a couple different types of these "load testers" a couple years back with mixed results, i found its handy to know internal resistance and these testers definitely help to find the worst very dead modules (as you have done here) but it really struggles to see any difference between extremely good and mediocre modules, as-new modules with 6500mah capacity often test very much the same as mediocre modules with 2500mah For anyone considering this testing method for cars 2009 and newer, these testers only (sort of) work on the old style modules found in gen2 Prius, the newer style "low ir" modules found in gen3 prius, camry etc have very low resistance right to the end of their life, when they are absolutely dead as a nail the resistance might come up just a tiny bit, but not much! Its a fudge job without knowing capacity! there's just no magic. i.r. alone is just not enough information to build a reliable battery, you need to know the actual capacity of each and every module to do the job properly unless you are happy to keep going back in the pack every few months and play waKaMole We need more magic in this space, testing these batteries is too time consuming and just annoying really! so many hybrid cars on the road these days and still no cheap reliable easy way to test each module without spending days standing over hobby chargers waiting for numbers! Cheers from Australia :)
@juliochaves7852
@juliochaves7852 5 ай бұрын
Cómo olvidar ahí dormido en ese cerro😢
@СеванМкрт
@СеванМкрт 6 ай бұрын
Do I need permission to film this mountain with a drone?
@kellyfitzpatrick4355
@kellyfitzpatrick4355 6 ай бұрын
Excellent! I actually gave up after trying to test cells and replaced a battery. I won't do that again!
@jeffreybail353
@jeffreybail353 6 ай бұрын
it looks like a moldy old giant treestump from a family tree
@adrianleighuk
@adrianleighuk 6 ай бұрын
A question. Once reassembled did this help resolve the issue and if so in your experience what was the best internal resistance as a guide? Thanks for the video. A great idea by the way.
@cvedeler
@cvedeler 6 ай бұрын
It worked well. I had one terrible cell, but ended up replacing 5 others that were questionable.
@juanvaldes1837
@juanvaldes1837 5 ай бұрын
​@@cvedelervery helpful thanks a lot
@bestsurfersofalltime
@bestsurfersofalltime Ай бұрын
@@cvedeler When you say questionable. What percentage did the other cells test at? I just tested my battery this way and one was bad and several were in the 80 percentage of good. Thanks
@cvedeler
@cvedeler Ай бұрын
@@bestsurfersofalltime All the cells I ended up replacing were 50% and below. 80% should be fine.
@Adzeoda
@Adzeoda 6 ай бұрын
This is really helpful for future reference....apparently I had all I needed already😂
@stevenabnoosian2028
@stevenabnoosian2028 6 ай бұрын
That was really helpful Thank you 🙏
@sleepydo6463
@sleepydo6463 6 ай бұрын
silly question but is the 2012 Prius battery same layout?
@cvedeler
@cvedeler 6 ай бұрын
I believe it is similar.
@mattaitchey4917
@mattaitchey4917 5 ай бұрын
2012 will have "low ir" modules, so this ir based test method wont be any use to you
@MervsServiceSecrets
@MervsServiceSecrets 4 ай бұрын
​@@mattaitchey4917 I wondered about that as well. For anybody that has monitored resistance using the simple dr prius app, 19 to 20 milliohms is pretty common. Yet in this video, he rejects the one with 17 milliohms as being bad.
@mattaitchey4917
@mattaitchey4917 4 ай бұрын
@@MervsServiceSecrets would have been a better module than the others!
@MervsServiceSecrets
@MervsServiceSecrets 4 ай бұрын
@@mattaitchey4917 I don't think I've ever seen a module with a resistance of 5!
@anhtoan19
@anhtoan19 6 ай бұрын
Can I send it to Japan?
@libertyvilleguy2903
@libertyvilleguy2903 7 ай бұрын
These are really great videos of central Arizona, thank you.
@libertyvilleguy2903
@libertyvilleguy2903 7 ай бұрын
Great video. I will research this hike - surprised that the trail goes all the way to the top. That makes for some serious elevation gained in that hike.
@libertyvilleguy2903
@libertyvilleguy2903 7 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you.
@dc5duben96
@dc5duben96 7 ай бұрын
thanks for the info! really helps me out just diving into my battery problems
@GRP0909
@GRP0909 8 ай бұрын
I love that one 😊😊🤗🤗☺️☺️
@littlemilyus179
@littlemilyus179 10 ай бұрын
2023?
@zyco793
@zyco793 10 ай бұрын
Hey🎉
@MiaR98
@MiaR98 11 ай бұрын
Noisy-ass drones aren't allowed in Forest Service wilderness areas