You Brahms fans are a different breed

I read that as 'Demonised Recording'.

Really brilliant scholarship. Thanks so much.

Thank you for sharing. I hope you make more videos.

How long you been playing?

your video and your poor sense of judgement annoy me

honestly i don't think it sounded like shit, he improvised

Great research, thank you!

I keep coming back to this video not just because it’s so informative but because I find it very inspirational. It’s a shame how much we are missing out on with modern performance practice.

Muito maravilhosa esta música!Tenho procurando por está partitura sem sucesso!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Amo as músicas de Ketelbey!Essa música não encontrei a partitura!Lindo!Bravo!👏👏👏👏👏👏❤❤❤❤❤

Thank you!! This was and is a very intersting music story for me.

As a trained music historian and an experienced pop/Jazz pianist I can never understand the aversion most classically trained people have to improvisation! I believe that improvisation has always been an integral part of music making. This is especially true among the composer/performers of the last two centuries. The only case for strictly adhering to a score is when the music involves ensemble playing. When a composers perform their own music as a soloist I have no doubt that they felt free to change the notes of their own music to suit the occasion or their mood at the time. No creative musician would willingly play the same piece the same way twice. That is, unless they have had adoration of the score drilled into them by their teachers. Composers have always published their music so that others could play and share it. They would not want themselves to be placed in a musical straitjacket that would cramp their own creativity. Interpreters of others music - like those whose recordings are played in this video - carried on this tradition in their performances. Sadly, this tradition was smothered post World War I.

That was great, Lovely swing to it! Cheers!

Found you while reading 'The Science of Music by Andrew May'. A really interesting video and break down so thank you!

Because IT SOUNDS LIKE SHIT made me laugh so hard

What an amazing video and well done with putting it all together.

In the words of Artie Johnson, "very interesting!". I found this intriguing. Thank you for the post.

Fascinating, but I'm a bit slow. I'm practising a Brahms piece for the Sherborne Summer School of Music next week: Intermezzo in E, Op.116 No.6. I love it.

Have you corrected for the variations due to hand turning?

Could you do a recording of the entire piece in Brahms' style?

Really interesting and nice work too !!!

So how do I get to Carnegie Hall? Seriously. I have tickets to a concert and I don't know the way.

May I suggest that the original recording machinery had defects that made it 'wow and flutter', which might account for the seemingly underdotting?

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Is there not some dispute as to whether it is in fact Brahms himself playing on this recording? The introductory text is someone introducing themselves and saying they are in the house of Herr Doktor Brahms, and we assume that it is Brahms that plays in the recording that follows -- but this is not actually documented, and most people don't think it's Brahms introducing himself.

Perhaps it was because they couldn't count !!?????

Playing with the right hand '' behind;; the right hand is a mus in jazz music . And this is part of the swing know how . So....

Did you make more?

Hello I really enjoyed this video! Could you please make one about the other lost techniques, this is such a fascinating subject! Thank you for sharing this knowledge with us.

Nice! How old were you here? I started at the age of 33:))

They say there is a video of old Brahms sitting in a café and drinking beer, but I never could find it... Do you know anything about this?

What is "crazy"? What is "normal"? What did the composers aim for? Difficult question. Brahms' freedom as far as rhythm is concerned should encourage us to allow ourselves to develop our personal freedom, which can be our individual signature.

I am unqualified to comment on most of the musical point made in your interesting video. My Dad accompanied his 5yr younger friend Willy Kapell a few times at Camp Tecumseh in 1940, not sure about other years. My father studied with Leo Ornstein, who recommended him to Curtis, where he received diplomas in conducting (Reiner) in '39 and accompanying (Kaufman) in '41. He would accompany me on oboe and singing (wretched), musically the equivalent of making Ahab fish in a barrel. I play a wee bit of piano now, at a small art museum and can see the resistance of a composer to playing right by the notes you have written, especially if rusty knuckles have set in a bit. So you improvise. It really is too bad that it is so hard to hear what Brahms was doing. Can only imagine what Tch, Tch Tchaikovsky would have said...😔 🐸

reminds me of the similarity between brahms' op 119 no 3 and the mario world ending theme

Deberías tomar un curso de piano

I would love to hear recordings of Mozart and Beethoven!

So much for his concert quality piano playing. It’s at elementary school level

But anything is possible

i wrote a paper in the same vein about Reinecke's tempo modification from some piano rolls, i'll send it to you if you want!

With his fingers and sitting on a chair.

There still was an expectation in those days that the performer was a co-composer. That is to say, that much like the Baroque and Classical eras, performers were free to interpret the score in their way - even to the point of improvising on and freely interpreting the score! The fact that Brahms does this, shows that this was the excepted convention of the day! No boring metronomes and stuffy editors to tell you how to play! Music is about interpretation and cooperation with the vision of the composer - if we all play like midi recorders music loses its joy and magic!

love the video! but I was wondering why don't you blink?

Brahms was SWINGING ~~~

It seems to me that classical musicians in Brahms' day were more expressive and emotive, and didn't mind experimentation. Somewhere along the way classical music became sterile and over-analyzed.

Please make more. Absolutely fascinating

I could have been sure that pianists have good reasons for not putting their thumb on a black note… but I now know everything there is to know about piano technique so I must be imagining it :P

This is very eerie

It surely sounds like a man really enjoying playing the piano. Trying, creating and daring looks like his fundamental ingredients. This is what makes the huge gap between Brahms and people only playing the exact score. This gave me allot of new insight for continuing my piano journey